Post-Jerry Dead?

marye

Posted: September 28, 2007 - 9:27am

Over in another topic, scubabrew raised the question of why we're not talking about post-Jerry Dead.

Many things could be said on the subject; some would certainly have it that "post-Jerry Grateful Dead" is a contradiction in terms, and in any case the band retired the name after Jerry passed. But as scuba implies, that doesn't really address the fact that there were some darn fine shows by The Dead, The Other Ones, etc.

So here's the place to talk about 'em!


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The Other Ones

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On September 28th, 2007 Sunshine-daydre... said:

i quite like the first incaration of the other Ones

Bob

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Spanish Jam

some thoughts

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On September 28th, 2007 Hal R said:

I put this in the Tapers section just as marye was starting this topic, so I thought I would move it over here.

enjoying the ride - very sorry you have missed out on all the great music of the past 12 years. It may not be the Grateful Dead, but it as close as we can get.

And IMHO - Ratdog, Phil and Friends, the Dead, the Other Ones have all been tighter than most of the post Brent stuff of the Grateful Dead and much of the 80's. Jerry had health problems and was an addict and the band was not inspired at times and not happy at times. Most of these post -Jerry bands have more joy in their spirit than the last days of the Dead.
I love Jerry and the sound of his guitar and songs but you can not fly high when you are bogged down by narcotics and just feeling sick and dying.

With all this said, there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert; even though the post Jerry shows are lots of fun and smooth sailing, it isn't the same MAGIC and excitement as the Grateful Dead when they were on.

The audience for me have also been more pleasant at the post Grateful Dead shows than in the later years. They are there because they love the music, not to make a scene.

Let the discussion begin.
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself

Audience

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On September 28th, 2007 Sunshine-daydre... said:

i can't comment on the audience as in the last 20 years i have only seen the 90 GOGD tour which i enjoyed, great fun following the band around and the 2003 Ratdog Europe tour.
I love Ratdog and some of the P&F shows, normally without Warren. Great player but he plays too loud for my tastes in this type of music.

Bob W

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The Dead, Phil and Warren

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On September 28th, 2007 Hal R said:

Hey Bob,
I am a big Warren and Gov't Mule fan. I do feel however that his guitar overshadowed that of Jimmy Herring when they both played with the Dead in 2004. Jimmy is a great musician and he was just way too low in the mix, both live and on the soundboards. I really wanted to hear him without straining.

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself

The joy was back and it sure is nice...

On September 28th, 2007 Scubabrew said:

Hal,
You made the same point I was thinking. Every year we go to the Bridge School Benefit that Neil Young puts on. If you havent heard of it it is mandatory all acoustic and usually has a quite diverse selection of bands.

A bunch of years ago "The Dead" played and I hadnt seen them actually seem to be having that much fun being on stage and playing for people in a long time. Smiles all around the whole set.

I have never been that good at dissecting my experiences at shows but my brain sure knows when it is at a good one and the boys sure seem to be having fun again. They still suprise me. Hearing them play Madman Across the Water during the last Dead tour showed me that they can still be counted on for the unexpected.

relax, don't worry, have a homebrew.

"There are 2 kinds of people in the world. Those whose lives have a soundtrack and those lives do not. I have always found that interesting people come supplied with music."

Madman

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On September 28th, 2007 Hal R said:

Scubabrew,
I found the Madman Across the Water very moving, inspired and inspiring. Warren has a strong voice. Was a little shocked when I first heard it; Dead doing Elton John tunes?

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself

One of the first things I ever downloaded...

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On September 28th, 2007 marye said:

was Warren singing "One," from the last Dead show at Shoreline. At that show, I thought the band was great and all was aligned for a great new start, and Warren singing "One" just kind of nailed the whole thing thematically. Much as the Automatic Baby one (half U2, half R.E.M., with Michael Stipe on vocals) nailed the mood of the Clinton inaugural, but I digress. "One" is quite the song, though in eternal peril of slipping into cliche from overuse I suppose.

None of it was to be, alas. But in the moment, it was awesome.

It was a free download on The Dead site, but that site is long, long gone, I think.

Been there done that

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On September 28th, 2007 Steve-O said:

While post Jerry Dead is definetly not the same, The musicians are top notch, and live music is definetly better, bumper stickers should be issued!!

Post Jerry? Absurd!

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On October 1st, 2007 GRTUD said:

There is no such thing, I assure you. He channels "US", now.

When will "Then" be "Now"?
Soon...

AGREE ABOUT THE CROWDS

On October 2nd, 2007 gypsy soul said:

hal you nailed it when you said the fans are there for the tunes and not just to make the scene. the show must go on for us, it just has different characters now. but yes, we ARE there for the music after all. everything else was always just a bonus.

nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile

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