Really Bad Scenes

Posted: August 2, 2007 - 10:54am

In today's Today in Deadhead History, aud mentions a show she never wants to revisit, even on tape, because the scene was so ugly. And I think the same is true of various shows for a lot of us.

Thug security. Gate crashers. Drunken concertgoers puking on your bare feet. You know. Bad scenes. Post here.


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Colt Park, Hartford '76

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That was the show I mentioned, 8-2-76. We were already a bit leery of Hartford, having heard some not-so-good tales of problems at Dillon Stadium, so we were a little on edge to begin with. But the problems we saw, I'd never seen anywhere else - drunken crazy people THROWING
BOTTLES AT THE STAGE, fighting down front got so out of control we had to extract ourselves and head for the back of the field.

Never in all the years since did I experience a crowd that nasty and ugly at a GD show.

and the bad acid my pals did that night didn't help a bit!

PITTSBURGH 89(?)

In April of 1989 i spent 3 or 4 days in pittsburgh having tix for the sunder night show. hit to parking lot on saturday and things were not too bad. did some "shopping" there and headed back to where we were staying-a friend's apartment. the next day the news was screaming all about the scene at the show-gate crashers-naked people running the streets, fights, garbage, etc. I remmeber crying and wondering why anyone would want to ruin OUR beautiful scene. who were these people. there were rumors of the show sundey being cancelled, but it went on as scheduled, but there was more security and more cops than needed, in my opinion. scary scene indeed.

nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile

Pittsburgh

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Can't remember the year. Last time the Dead were allowed to play the Civic Arena. Fans were bad, but cops were worse. They beat fans for no paticular reason and caused much havoc. I always hated Pittsburgh, but the band seemed to enjoy playing there. Why?, I don't know.

Posted in the Ratdog topic

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by dewlover. I think this qualifies as a really bad scene:

Posted: August 14, 2007 - 7:09am
INJURED COP AT RatDog SHOW

As some of you may already know, during the RatDog set, the actions of some maniac at the Gathering on Saturday night resulted in a Bridgeport, Ct., police officer being injured...The following is a mailing address, as well as eMail for you to send some healing Vibes to that man who was just trying to do his job:

Deputy Police Chief James Honis
Bridgeport Police Deparment
300 Congress St
Bridgeport, CT 06604

honisj0@ci.bridgeport.ct.us

Pittsburg

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I heard about how horrible the cops were at that Pitt show. My sister saw a girl getting clubbed. I went to a show there in '90 that was pretty heavy too, but not like the one I think that you're talking abouty.

That Pitt show was 89.

It was spring tour 89, I was 16 years old and stuck outside with ALOT of folks when the crowd decided to rip a cple windows out of the civic center to get in. I was still early to the scene and guess I didnt yet realize what it was like to HAVE to get in.

fucking Brenden Byrne

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the day they confiscated a ton of my really cool stickers, which was how I supported the bus in those days.

They were ready to boot me out of the parking lot. they had a bunch of folks rounded up, I stuck my ticket in my shoe, and we were waiting for the paddy wagon. fuckers working security were laughing at us, making jokes about people's hair and shit like that. talking ABOUT us right in front of us like we were circus sideshow freaks or zoo animals and like we couldn't understand English, or those guys were just such rude, dumbasses they didn't care about hurting people's feelings. I remember one of the yellow coated security dicks pulled out a pocet knife and threated to cut some dudes hair off. a really, really bad scene.

anyway, the paddy wagon shows up, and they filled it. I was still sitting on the ground, and since it was 'full' they let me walk away.

I am not sure if this was the same tour where some of those security dicks chased down some head and made him run into traffic or something like that. some of the upper ups at Byrne or the security chiefs or those particular guards tried to cover up that tragedy; but eventually karma got into it because their actions that caused the death of an innocent head came to light.

"What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line
Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"

What comes around, goes around

Or what goes around, comes around, however you want to look at it. Took awhile, but the truth that everyone already knew came out. John Schers very own yellow jackets. Bad scene, indeed. I remember those stickers, Joe. Probably talked to you, just dont remember, you now how it goes.

As bad as Byrne became, MSG could get pretty heavy too. They would use the horses on people and fuck them up but good. Saw it in the early 80's at least.

Hi Stella, I'd like to point

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Hi Stella,

I'd like to point out that that sticker design was not original, I do not know who designed it, but I copied it using a silk screen and made the stickers myself. (that's why they look kind of sloppy) muchos kudos and thankx to whoever designed it, it kept the bus on the road. all I had to do was walk around turning the sticker right side up and then upside down to show that you could read grateful dead even when it was inverted; those suckers sold themselves. I traded a bunch of them, too, usually for food that people were cooking up or beers in the lean years...

one kind of surreal thing I remember about the MSG shows, was how the cops would be out on fatboy Harleys, out in force-- what seemed at the time like 50 bikes, driving around and around the 'round' and "round" garden again and again before or after shows.

peace.

Go Vegetarian Vegan, much less trouble

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Go Vegetarian Vegan, no meat, no dairy, then you got less bad karma. Life can be heaven or heck, depending upon what you do, what goes around, comes around; At least I try. Things are much better now that I am back to being a vegetarian, and better yet a vegan. Hey, I know what I need, another.......

But if you do go Vegetarian Vegan, make certain you get at least 100 to 300 mg of all the B Vitamins (and at least 25,000 mcg of B12), PER DAY, and 1000 IU of Vit D, 500 mg Vit C, for Vit A drink a pint of carrot juice, some multi minerals, and 400 IU of Vit E. But VEGETARIANS must get Vit B suplements (B1, B2, B3, B6, B12), else they get real depressed (lack of Vit B especially), as its hard to find in the Vegetarian world (a bit in seaweed, and bananas, but not enough). It was fashionable to go vegetarian in the 1930's, the latest craze, but many became very depressed. And also I like to take Melatonin, around 15 mg before bed.

OH, and ballancing your pH with good quality WATER between meals, can restore you pH by neutralizing all those low pH acids you consume, like orange juice, soda, alcohol, tomatoes, carrots, meat and dairy products, its all dangerous because its all low pH, how can your body tollerate and bunch of acids you feed it? Water to the rescue. Then your less apt to get a bunch of trash from people. Example, I was a cab driver for a while in Las Vegas, and I would drink some coffee (low pH acidic) for my first ride, and they would bug me "driver why are you going this way", "faster driver", "were stopped and the meter is still running driver", then after the first ride, I would drink some water (high pH netralizes acids, like the coffee) with a water bottle cap full of baking soda (real high pH, and cheap, and good for you), mix that up, and the next ride was a charm, "oh driver you good, thanks driver", SO, WHAT YOU CONSUME, IS HOW THE WORLD TREATS YOU. Serve more high pH stuff at Dead Concerts; hey, and pass out B Vitamins, of course a little bit of acid is ok, it just takes a little bit, to go along way, just ballance it out.

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