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Yeah, I live in So. Fla. so it's just "gator" down here... Anyways, brilliant "Let's Review" post brother. Spot-on.

Nope, I want a view if go. Honestly dont think I will be making the shows at this point. I will not pay an outrageous price for tickets. All going have lots of fun!

"Going 360" http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/inside-the-grateful-deads-fi…

360 seating yes, no mention of 360 stage set up, of video screens behind the stage. 360 to allow more people in, but I dont believe view of stage or video will be any different than original design.

From a previous post: "On the no view Shapiro himself stated "The sight lines won’t be the same, but you’re in. They made a decision to get as many people as possible into the show. There will be (video) screens and sound back there.” The key words in the paragraph don't have anything to do with sight lines. The key words are, 'THEY made a decision to get as many people as possible into the show'. I've been through this many times before at Dead shows, particularly at Alpine Valley and several other GA spots. Pack as many in as possible, regardless of audience comfort, safety, the ability of the infrastructure to handle it, and the overall experience in general. Shakedown Street has become 'tailgating'. Getting in to the venue suddenly seems to mean more than the music, and CERTAINLY more than the spirit of community that always made the whole thing so special. As to insane ticket prices for no view, if there will be 'screens and sound back there', why not see it in comfort on the PPV that we all know is coming? As Gramma always said, 'Be Careful What You Wish For.'

Yeah, I hear you. The Rolling Stone writer took "going 360"' just like you said. Do you think the mention of "different site lines" means that there are indeed sight lines - just looking down over the back of the amps/drums?

I heard someone ask the same question on The Siri dead channel, The answer I heard was that it is not currently in circulation because it came fresh out in the fall in a festival circuit and it wasn't picked up for distribution. I Didn't see it but it did play at at the toronto International film festival. David ganz ended the call stating he was going to call weir and light a fire under his Butt, as many people are requesting it.

I heard someone ask the same question on The Siri dead channel, The answer I heard was that it is not currently in circulation because it came fresh out in the fall in a festival circuit and it wasn't picked up for distribution. I Didn't see it but it did play at at the toronto International film festival. David ganz ended the call stating he was going to call weir and light a fire under his Butt, as many people are requesting it.

The last book Garcia read while in rehab was the Celestine Prophecy. This book while a interesting read gives you some insite into who Garcia And the dead are. the book is available as a free pdf or you can buy Jerry's copy from the Dead auction(priceless). I challenge all open minded to read this book. As you read the book see how it relates to your Dead experiences. I also need to put in a shameless plug for a miracle ticket.peace

From another post: 'David ganz (SIC) ended the call stating he was going to call weir and light a fire under his Butt, as many people are requesting it.' If David said that, it's a good chuckle. I don't think many people making part of their living off what's left of the Dead Gravytrain are going to say spit if it goes counter to the Party Line. It's a big beef with me. The Dead have been as careful about their propaganda as most other corporations of their size, and certainly are these days. IMO, most of what you hear from The Golden Road dudes is talking points. That being said, I must complement David on his latest version of 'Brokedown'. I found it to be truly heartfelt, emotional and inspiring. Thank you for it, David.

I've seen JRAD recently and Billy & the Kids this weekend. All I have to say is ditch Trey and use the Brothers Past guitarist, Tom Hamilton. He is the most dynamic and solid player/ vocalist I've heard play Grateful Dead music out of everyone I've ever seen. The guy rips and can really sing, something that as good a guitarist Trey is, Trey's vocals are horrendous. He gets away with it in Phish because Phish lyrics are meaningless drivel. Someone has to sing Brokedown, Ripple, Attics, China Doll and nobody wants to hear Phil, Bobby, Trey or Bruce sing it, although Bruce is probably the most capable. Or go for broke. Let Mickey sing.

3-day obstructed view tickets on Stubhub have gone from about $1,300 to under $900 in a month while supply has increased slightly. Ebay tickets are cheaper than Stubhub in general. Prices are still too high, but this trend leads to some hopefulness on my part. I just hope there isn't a frenzy at some point while the tickets are still priced too high. I'm no expert (actually far from it), but I'd guess that prices for the lowest obstructed will eventually drop to about $200 per ticket (single show) while nosebleeds/far away view go to $300-400. It seems like GA (not pit) will be the most overpriced because there is demand there and the tickets are selling at inflated prices. What I am surprised about is how much people pay for a view seat all the way on the other end of the stadium. You can't see anything without binocs. I've always been a floor guy, but I think a side view close to the stage or, gasp, an obstructed view is a better option for these shows. Is the sound really bad on the side or something?

Boblob said: "What I am surprised about is how much people pay for a view seat all the way on the other end of the stadium. You can't see anything without binocs. I've always been a floor guy, but I think a side view close to the stage or, gasp, an obstructed view is a better option for these shows. Is the sound really bad on the side or something?" I've been to each and every show the Dead did at Soldier Field. I've been on the sides, and I wasn't impressed. A group of us usually took the skybox exactly opposite the stage. When Candace was doing the lights and screens and Don and Ultrasound worked the board, you got your moneys worth, even that far back. No real sound pressure, mind you, but still fun, and the view of the whole event, with the marvelous Chicago skyline to the north behind the stage, the lake to the east, sunset to the west, and GREAT fireworks all over the place at the end of the show, it left a lasting impression. This time, I have no idea who the people are doing the lights and sound, so All Bets Are Off.

A behind the stage friday night ticket, sold for $371 this morning on ebay. They will continue to fall, especially if this levi stadium thing is real! Good luck to all!

I want to hear everyone sing. Everyone WILL sing. To believe any different is naive. You never heard Jerry sing did you? It isn't the voice so much as it is the delivery that matters

Section 325 ticket sold for $405. I however, continue to be shut out of all of my Best Offers. Some seriously delusional sellers on there

Whoever is on the stage shares a love and belief in the music that cultivates and by all means beautifies our lives still after all these years. One Love. To discredit or bring negative energy to the show for whatever reason, the scene in whatever form just is defeating to what brought us all together in the first place. The music. We are there to honor the songs and whomever graces the stage.

I am going to bring hot sauce to the lot in Chicago and watch the scalpers EAT their tickets

Got to back up 3 days to Sir Klangs-alot essay on what it is about the Dead and their fans: " every type of person in between, are very tolerant and accepting" The crazy patchwork quilt / spicy stew / stunning mosaic that reflects both the musical menu and the faithful followers, was brought out when I brought my impressionable 17 year-old to a Phil show last summer. During the intermission I looked around at the crowd and remarked that if we were 100 yards away watching this crowd file past, we would NOT be able to tell what they had in common. A nattily-dressed, impeccably-groomed silver hair behind me piped in: Yes you would, they're Deadheads. Oh. Exactly. Klang it from the mountain top, Klang it in the valley, Klang it at noon time And Klang it in the quiet of night.

What a terrible way to dieWhat a terrible way to die Still no news at the top of the week What a terrible way to die It's a sing-along. Everybody join in: What a .....

got to keep the klangers on the path.....

Looking to trade my 2 Dear Jerry Lawn tickets PLUS CASH for just 1 GD50 ticket any night, anywhere. I would love to see the boys together and it would make me a very happy head. Keep on playin in the heart of gold band. Good luck to everyone in their search.

just agreeded to $400 for GA pit.......

Is that the one with his Dad's tickets? I didn't get anywhere with him obviously.

it is

I presume, Boo, it's a GDTS TOO, PL-1 ticket? Make sure he forwards you his Elvis e-mail with batch #. Not a screen shot or cut and paste.

dude claims TM ticket, up front pit

TM did not sell pit to my knowledge, just MO and CID

He told me it was GA Field. Here's my correspondence. Me: Well, the price depends greatly on where the tickets are. How many do you have and where are they located? Him: They are in GA field we're asking 500 per ticket Me: I'm ok with that. What days? Him: we can get together this weekend if that works for you Me: You don't have the tickets yet. Plus, I'm not in Chicago Him: we got our tickets in the mail this week so how do you purpose we make this happen Me: My understanding is that no one has tickets yet. Him: he got them through the mail order I gave up at that point. Good Luck. Maybe they are real and you scored. Steve

Scam scum

I just accepted the $400 offer, see what his next move is

Everything you've read below is true so I wouldn't even waste your time with that jackass. MO and CID received all the floor seats: GA-Floor (PL-4's which are now GA-Field) and GA-Pit (PL-1's). No one has received any physical tickets yet (MO, CID or TM). I've read the rationale there was a June mailing to avoid excessive scalping. Yeah, I know....hind sight...

Ithaca (aka Cornell) was great. Buffalo was better. IMO, YMMV, etc. ;p Why is the Cornell show generally accepted as one of the all-time greats? Several very nice recordings exist, where all the factors came together 'just exactly perfect'... The right mics, in the right place, in the right room combined with a wide distribution through the fanbase at a seminal time, is my best guess on the issue. What does exist of the Buffalo show is not as good a recording. The 'hockey barn' nature of the venue, combined with the less-than-directional nature of the microphones of the day capture more of the 2nd and 3rd reflections of the PA in the room which makes it "boomy"/"muddy"/"echoey". Even the SBD recording suffers from this to some extent. Similar issues exist in the Rochester War Memorial Aud. (Both buildings were built in the same 5 year period, to essentially the same plan. ) I had a great time at both shows, but it took a lot longer to put my ears into the 'sweet spot' in Buffalo. ;)

Try Boston...trifecta....

Musically its hard to find a '77 show that isn't worth listening to. Gawd knows I've tried... LolRecording quality, & technical issues are a different issue... :p

I am glad, for the most part, things are getting happier in here. I did see a couple of posts that made me smile, smile, smile, and for that I am grateful. Two things caught my eye, first, no one has tickets yet. I got an email from GDTS TOO saying I WILL get tickets, but not until June, when the rest of those who mail ordered and "won" get them. If there is some scum bag on ebay or elsewhere saying/claiming they have physical tickets to sell you, they are lying, period, plain and simple. Second, although I did not see the actual post, I did read someone saying, "Don't gate crash." I concur with that sentiment. 1995 was a bad year for me personally (I lost my father during tour and missed a couple of shows as well as missing my dad) and I missed seeing a show I was at, and had third row tickets in front of Jerry for because some clowns thought they were entitled to be dickheads, not deadheads. You gate crash in Chicago, and not only will you not get in the show, you will have your head smashed by a cop, spend the rest of the weekend in jail, and just may ruin it for the rest of us. I am pleading to all of you here, try to resist buying tickets from scalpers, for your sake, and for everyone that might be coming to town without a ticket. There will be tickets at the box office day of. There was for every Dead show at Solider Field except for one. (the second to last show). There will be face value tickets available from scalper scum night of each show. I guarantee this, especially if you resist now. I am also pleading to anyone who is thinking of gate crashing to not do it. You won't get in anyway, and you might ruin it for everyone else. Peace out, and I seriously hope all the people on this message board who need tickets and want to go, get them.

just got 10 shows on cd from my friend matt, thank you brother ... see you in Chicago

I have 47 complete soundboards from the 60 shows in '77. Barton Hall ’77 is considered my many heads as the best show ever? It is actually preserved in the Library of Congress. Well, I believe because a good quality taper came out of it and the quality was so much better than other taper shows of the time, that it got so much attention, along with the soundboard that leaked out in the early 80's. IMHO, Pembroke Pines a few weeks later is a superior show, and never understood why they made it a single disc in Dick’s Picks #3 and left out 8 songs. I have the compete SB show and it just smokes!! 05/08/77 Barton Hall (Cornell University) - Ithaca, NY – 20 Songs Set 1: New Minglewood Blues Loser El Paso They Love Each Other Jack Straw Deal Lazy Lightnin' Supplication Brown-Eyed Women Mama Tried Row Jimmy Dancin' In The Street Set 2: Scarlet Begonias Fire On The Mountain Estimated Prophet St. Stephen Not Fade Away St. Stephen Morning Dew Encore: One More Saturday Night 05/22/77 The Sportatorium - Pembroke Pines, FL - 24 Songs Set 1: Funiculi Funicula Music Never Stopped Sugaree El Paso Peggy-O New Minglewood Blues Friend Of The Devil Lazy Lightnin' Supplication Ramble On Rose Dancin' In The Street Set 2: Help On The Way Slipknot! Franklin's Tower Samson And Delilah Brown-Eyed Women Good Lovin' Sunrise Estimated Prophet Eyes Of The World Wharf Rat Terrapin Station Morning Dew Encore: Sugar Magnolia

Have tickets for al 3 nights, not in hand but email confirmation. Rented a 40 ft. sail boat to sail during the day and dance all night.

Cool, a Ship of Fools on the lake!!

Since things are "getting happier in here" I won't post ANYTHING to ruin it. So I won't post anything...

'THE' tape , was the Jerry Moore Sony ECM 33P Mics > Sony 153 deck. (Accept no substitutes. The after the fact matrix using that tape and the rediscovered SBD has severe technical issues, the master decks were not in synch & no time correction was done to fix the inter modulation & tape speed drifts between the two decks by the krew that did the reassembly)The Betty Boards are also quite nice, tho turning the low end down is probably a great idea unless you're listening on headphones. (Betty loved some bass, and the headphones of the day weren't all that good at reproducing low end. Something off on the kick drum channel that night too...) I'm kinda fond of the SM57 > Sony 152 source that surfaced a couple years back, taped from very close to the stage & about dead center. A lot of local conversation, but a real close feel to what it sounded like from that neighborhood at that time. :)

Phish tix for the Shoreline show go on sale this Friday. If rumor holds true, we should hear an announcement about the Dead shows in Santa Clara to be held during the last weekend of June sometime this Saturday or Sunday.Look for a corresponding drop in Chicago shows ticket prices. See you in the Bay Area!

Some of us are half deaf.... Glad we can read the setlists in Braille....

Like the make over....about time my man.... Sporting a nice logo... Faith my man...

I like the symmetry between San Francisco and Steal your Face. Very nice!

How'd you do it man? Funny, I've been trying to change mine to a 49er's SYF and it just won't update. Maybe the system doesn't like SF teams.

You're right. While the May 8 77 show is awesome, there are so many other great '77 shos, including the follwoing day (May 9) and, my favorite, Oct 16 '77, Assembly Center, LSU. Bur ro each his own. Promised Land Sugaree Cassidy Set 1 Loser Minglewood Blues Friend of the Devil Sunrise Dire Wolf The Music Never Stopped Set 2 Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain Estimated Prohpet > Drums The Other One > Good// Lovin > Terrapin Station > Black Peter > Around & Around encore US Blues

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I must admit I got confused in the middle, but tlhen it started to make sense.