Grateful Dead

Acceptance is the last stage of denial.

If its true, and they do the same TM method, we don't stand much of a chance to get tickets. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use a different method of selling tickets. Will call with ID required the morning of at the box office, something...anything, get these scalpers out of the picture! The efforts to stop scalpers for FTW Chicago did not work!

GDTS staged walk out and threaten to slice little bunnies to death with a 1,000 paper cuts with one last box on unreturned money orders just found in trunk of car. Bill Walton is on scene negotiating Ticketmaster deal with GDST Too staff in exchange for bunnies. One long timer GDTS women quoted as sayin "I'm gonna slice that little f#@$ing bunny's balls off!"

...that dead.net members (current list before any scalpers join) get PMs with a code for a pre-sale BEFORE PSL and niners ticketholders get to snatch them up and start the scalping frenzy. Shapiro, you listening? Pretty Please??????

Breathe my friend. We have strategy on our side this time. We got your back.

I think GDTSTOO is quite done.... look for TM and wait for the wheel is turning and it can't slow down, can't go back and you can't stand still if the thunder don't get you then Shapiro will! Good luck Left Coast Heads....

Agreed Totem... Plus, Klang, the mighty brother and sisterhood of the SD'ers !! Dude, this is nothing but GOOD NEWS re soldier FTW ticket prices...let the price degradation begin !!

What strategy? What control or influence could we possibly have that can affect the outcome this time around? Asking, pleading, begging? Hasn't got me a ticket yet and TM won't f#ckin transfer a single ticket... Is GDTS TOO keeping our reject list and gonna take care of us? I just don't see that happening...

...I hope the daydreamers are right and I am wrong. I have no way of knowing one way or another. I will be the first one to admit he was wrong if anyone can prove me wrong, or if the supposed "miracle" happens. Pessimism is winning over optimism in this battle. Looking for something to tip the scales. Have yet to see anything that has tipped anything in our favor. Just because we are planning a get together does not increase our chances to get tickets into the shows, without succumbing to the scalpers. Sorry, but that's just how I feel. Nothing has changed since Feb. At this point, I am finding myself only daydreaming of getting a reasonably priced ticket for ANY of these shows.

So unless someone out there has found or created a reasonable TM bot, we will lose as we did before. This is a fact of life. You cannot compete with a computer that checks the millisecond they go on sale AND doesn't have to fill out those annoying anti-bot codes that are never easy to fill out (see this site). Not to rain on the parade, the only way those of us locked out of FTW stand a chance is to work together and try to get as many tix as we can and share them here. The whole go for what you need appears to be a joke. This does pose the risk though of buying more than you need - though this also means possibly setting an example and selling on Ebay of Stubhub at cost (plus shipping and associated fees of course - there is no point in taking a loss!) my $0.02 (though in Canada we no longer have the penny so I suppose that is my $0.05) Again, cautiously optimistic

Another debacle in the making!

July 10, 11, 12.

In August. 15 shows in the making, just firming up venues.

May be an option after all....

Are salivating! More cash in their pockets.

Great option. Only a mile from the show and price not bad. Book it Dano! Extended Stay America - San Jose - Santa Clara 2131 Gold St., Alviso, CA 95002 Tel: (408) 262-0401 | Fax: (408) 262-0402 Email: sca@extendedstay.com

.I'm thinking Chicago and Lockn might make more sense for me. At least the fam might not notice if I stretch out the time between shows. :) My best strategy would be to sign off dead.net until the shows are sold out. Otherwise that temptress might call me to me.

What a blast! Fond memories. The Flora Dora Saloon and the teepee in the middle of town. Fun weekend

i reserved a room 12 days ago at the Santa Clara Courtyard by Marriott for $109 a night plus tax. Wishful thinking but I'll be optimistic. I have nothing for Chicago.

"buying more than you need"? Really? If that was are biggest problem.... (It seems like our tune sounds very much alike you and me) Working together sounds good, sooner than later is better for me but I will try to be patient (not my strong suit). I will probably keep trying to get 1 overpriced ticket to ease my mind so I can book a flight with confidence. Trying to hold out from paying too much.

Klang, now remember, when your avatar changes tomorrow,so will your luck! Synchronicity with the new show announcement and falling ticket prices. Either that or your skin will turn blue. One or the other.

I was basically saying that for the 10 of us trying, 1 will get through and that 1 buys all they can...instead of our current, buy what you need and the rest are where we are - we had no community at first

Oh, you mean for Santa Clara. OK I get it now, that makes sense. My mind is still on Chicago, thought that was what you were referring to. There will most likely be no mail order so if you mean buy 4 instead of 1 via TM I am on board with that. For sure there will no problem getting rid of them if you end up with "extras". There obviously is no such thing as extra anymore.

Yeah, you might have something there! It is ironic that I decided to change my avatar to something SF BEFORE I heard of a semi-official announcement that the dead are for sure, I mean sort of, maybe not all the members coming to, the bay area in June (most likely). Now, if my avatar changes at the exact same time as the "official" announcement (if there is one), then that would be quit the coincidence, or not... ...and then I might have some hope for the changing to good luck.

https://www.facebook.com/GDTOUR I don't do that whole spacebook thing, but I did google the whole Santa Clara thing on the interwebs and this came up...anyone know who reps this site? Is this shit official?

Hey Klangstone, just a suggestion for when you do get your airline tix, Spirit air flies from Oakland to Chicago O for a decent price. And Southwest flies from San Jose, and I think San Francisco to CHicago Midway for an even better price, and while their cheap Wanna Get Away tix aren't refundable, they can be "returned" up to the day of travel for a full credit for a future ticket.

Howdy all. Getting way ahead of myself here, no show yet to apply this to, but if a head gets through on ticketmaster sale and doesn't buy max tix, I think they do a disservice to the community. Reality dictates a hoarde then share approach. Its the only way to counter scalpers. Those with the tickets set the price, better to have allies holding them. No? I'm commisioning my hacker son and his cronies to work on this bot tool as well. Why should the enemy have all the best tools.

If Phil ends up being part of this then I would be in. Without him I couldn't justify spending the $$$ to head out there. Chicago will remain my goal, though this would be a nice thing to do on my birthday :/ Maybe it will come out that it's the entire FTW lineup...then I'd be willing to splurge for a birthday trip. Otherwise, good luck everybody should this be a reality! Hope you can get tickets before the scalpers :)

Thanks y'all! @properlejdi, that statement you see is from the same original source. it has been cut and pasted on every other website including the mainstream reputable ones. But they all quote the same guy I mentioned earlier.

https://www.facebook.com/events/541990852609475/ The event link June 26-28 FARE THEE WELL (0.5) ENJOY PEOPLE! It's a new day

It's all from the same to do...sorry nothing official yet except from the online sports websites and Bill Walton's word. NO DETAILS! bummer, gotta wait

It's a beautiful day and were ever closer to the sounds and the sweet uiniversal tether that binds us all. Do a service to the music and yourself and let that lovelight shine!!!!

So taking anything he says seriously might be a problem. That FaceBook link with the Levi shows in small print does not seem to be the slam dunk we are looking for. Anyone have any other credible source for these shows happening?

Bill can neither confirm nor deny what Billy told him about the shows in Santa Clara. The tweet was a twit and I guess we all just have to wait until the media relations people are ready to launch the news. Maybe ticket details are still being negotiated and the announcement is not ready. Like Tom Petty sings, "the waiting is the hardest part." I think Bill Walton's silence is telling.

the boys/Shapiro sticking to their guns; this is the only set of shows, ever.well,ok no tour, but we'll just do a few shows here and there.. good for us, ticket prices/demand will drop damn I'm glad I lost with my $10,000 bid...

Believe it when I see it. At this point, it would be kinda a kick in the pants for those west coasters who are neck deep in chicago. If it happens, I won't go. Chicago and I'm done.

Locin, Peach,Bonnaroo, the only thing left is west coast shows

I am so darn grumpy before my coffee on the lighter side, prices on e-bay are dropping and a lot of no bid auctions out there

I just watched time run out for 2 3 day passes, high bid was 1,625.01, no sale, looked like he wanted 1900 we must resist the urge to buy at these prices, face yes, scalp hell no

CID has the ability to approve or deny travel package and VIP ticket transfers. I encourage anyone who sees a CID package for resell on Ebay notify CID and ask them to block the transfer. Check websites for contact information. Also the illinois scalper law seems to restrict ebay auction sales payment to PayPal because it offers the consumer some protection, and stubhub and the other ticket sites because they offer the same. So yet another tactic perhaps to go after these sellers. Not like you are going to get the attorney general to support a case against them, but perhaps an email to them or ebay asking if they are in compliance with the Illinois scalper law. Craigslist tickets probably violate the scalper law unless they are referring to tickets offered for sale on the above mentioned sites. Illinois almost had a tough scalper law, then they let the online websites push a big loophole right through the middle of it. Sad.. Lets do our best to make noise about this and make it hard to scalp like this.

I had taper section tix for the run of shows at The Greek in Berkeley '85 '20 years So Far" run. I was also gifted tickets for a seat right behind the SBD from a friend who couldn't make the run, so once I started the deck I headed on down the hill to look over Healy's shoulders & see what was going on. (And yes, somebody else got in with it too, but I hung on to the stub... ;) ) About 10 minutes into first set, here comes a 7' tall wide-as-a-door fella in a custom tie-dye, & an all-access laminate, who -of course- has the seat right in front of my 5'6" tall ass. We looked at each other for a second or two, laughed & then swapped ticket stubs & seats, and bought each other beers for the rest of the weekend.

Very cool story dude...very cool. Meanwhile, he retracted his tweet re Santa Clara shows so all is silent... Anyone wanting to trade Chicago GDTS TOO tix for three nights at the Hilton (parking lot of Levi Stadium) if these shows happen, shoot me a PM. Cheers.

Don't know if I oughta keep the kicker on the story on the down low, but maybe the statute of limitations has expired by now... What the hell... Easier to get forgiveness than permission. ;) Bill got upset about the 'outrageous!' prices for beer at concessions ($3 whole dollars?!!!?) & drafted me to help him swipe a couple cases of Heinekins from backstage catering. It wasn't exactly a deep stealth operation, what with the clanking and sloshing of two stoned -and- already drunk foolz carrying a full cooler and giggling, and the catering crew was kinda upset about where that cooler had gone off to... We did put it back after the show. Lolllz

...that's where that cooler got off too...always wondered...

...the organization should respond to Bill's statement. Is everyone asleep in GD Productions land? Shapiro? You still alive? It seems no one is thinking about the fans at all. Don't they have a clue what this is doing to all of us? Can we please have an announcement? Geez, it's not rocket science people. Get on the PC and type a few words. It's not that hard. If you need help, come to this forum and we can help you learn how to communicate. Hello? We are all out here still hanging.... THROW US A BONE OR SOMETHING!

Not going to happen or since how FTW went down, everybody has come out of the woodwork looking for a piece of the action. Like long lost relatives who heard you hit powerball. I do have to say, if it happens, it would be a bit of a knife in the back of those people who bought no view seats.

As Jerry said... Lost one round, but the price wasn't anything Knife in the back and more of the same.... If it comes to pass its, TM...no more GDTSTOO they're too old for this shit.... He's Gone.....like a steam locomotive rolling down the track, he's gone! FWIW....I miss Jerry.....

Maybe you go volunteer in a food kitchen or something, or go on a walk in the woods. Turn all the negative energy into good. Only then will things turnaround. p.s. if you had only seen what the first post looked like. lol.. this one is far more positive. lol

I will see Bob, Phil, Mickey and Billy at the 8/13 Giants game. Grateful Dead tribute night at ATT Park. Go Giants!!