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    May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    Four folios housed in a slipcase
    5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    50-page book of liners and photographs
    Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

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  • wissinomingdeadhead
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    ALL MUSIC EDITION
    Doesn't appear to be limited edition. This might be worth while to order I can keep the Ltd edition box set intact and order the book from Amazon on April 11th and I'll basically just have an unnumbered box set. And this way I'll keep the AME for travel purposes. Not a bad idea I'll sleep on it. Even though I have the E72 box I have 15 separate shows from E72 and 11 from 30 TATS. The reason I do it because I keep the DEAD SETS tucked away in the closet & pulling them out is a real hassle. I keep separate shows on the CD shelf. I'm such a DeadHead.
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    All Music Edition - Close, but no cigar
    As well intentioned as the All Music Edition is, it just doesn't go far enough. It's painfully obvious that the people who put together this box set underestimated demand to an absurd degree, and by doing so, have fostered the creation of an eBay "scalper's market" for this set. By offering only a bare bones All Music Edition as a consolation prize for the potentially thousands of Deadheads who were shut out, they have -- unwittingly??? -- rewarded eBay scalpers. Seriously, why not simply press up another 5-10,000 box sets? They don't have to be individually numbered, but they should contain everything that was in the original box. Only people who bought the set not for the music but to make a quick buck would have any reason to complain. I don't know why Rhino/GDP are going out of their way to help eBay scalpers, first by restricting supply of the box sets to only a fraction of the demand, and then by going out of their way to preserve the exclusivity of the original box set release. And for those who are now applauding this new release by saying its "all amount the music" -- well, if that were true, then they'd be pressing up more of the original box, not preserving its exclusivity so eBay scaplers can continue to profit.
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    Making this music available to everyone was the right thing to do. I coudnt' imagine being a loyal fan and customer of this site and missing out on such a thing. I bought the all music edition of Europe 72 and am happy to have it. Most of us know that the streamer trunk for that box is still on ebay for usually around 800 dollars, it IS collectible, and I would love to have one, just not at that price. This box will still be collectible but the music which is what it is really all about should be available to everyone. I mean, how could you keep true fans from being able to buy these shows which we have waited for for so long. Missing out on FW is probably my biggest regret, if I could only go back to that release date! That is an example where the music is not available and I think dead.net regrets how they worded that release, at this point they really cannot reissue that music which should be available to fans like myself who get so much joy from it. Now I have to admit the collection piece does add a bit of enjoyment for me. Take Dave's Picks for example. There are several I could have passed on and wouldn't be in my "collection" now if they were not limited and I could hop on here and order them anytime. But now I HAVE to have them all! Can't miss out! It has become something I really enjoy and has me checking this site at least once a day waiting for the next announcement. I do find it funny how some of the aftermarket has shaken out. I don't know if people are really paying 600 for FW, but that is simply too much. I hold the second 90 box in MUCH higher regard than the first. I mean, it is the best sound quality GD music available, period. They used 2 track for the first 90 box (shamefully) yet it goes for around 600 on ebay while the latter is just above the original price tag. The 77 winterland box is crazy high and the 73 box is around the original price? With all the other 77 music available? Anyway, I look forward to these releases so very much. I will be checking in everyday listening to the regulars ramble on here once the smoke clears from this. Everyone should be happy about what is taking place here. The music is what matters and music this good shouldn't be only for a select few.
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    Thanks! Product for all.
    Flexibility, and responsiveness, that's nice to see! Keep the feedback tone friendly and constructive. Win-win.
  • frosted
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    Hey minas, I called 'em scalpers
    Don't give a crap about them, what they do, or what they're called. Not saying I wish them good or ill, or what they do is ok or not. Just that they take the risk if they're going to buy up 10 copies and try to make a mint off them. So I don't feel sorry for them if they lose out on making big bucks due to more reissues. tough shit. If they do buy up tons of copies with the intent to make bank, and a few regulars here lose out on getting a copy at a more reasonable cost because of them, and then get no chance to buy a reissue at the normal price but have to pay a highly bumped rate that they may not be able to afford, sure it's legal. But I'd rather those here (and those longtime deadheads who don't hang out here all the time to catch the release on time but will want this box set) get more of a chance than a few days to buy this sparkler. I got mine in time, but that's not all that matters. Hell, I could always buy used copies at Amoeba in the past, ebay just takes away the geography problem. I bought many of my early Dick's Picks at used record stores when they first came out. Now you don't see them there much. "nobody here is losing opportunities at buying Dead sets that they didn't already pass up on" --maybe nobody here for the last few days, but there's tons of fans who may not hang out here enough to catch the 3 day sellout. So, it's great that they're making more available at the normal retail price, is my point. The resellers will get their chance, but I don't see any reason to give it to them after 3 days. Don't need a lecture on capitalism.
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    Ha
    That, ICKid, is the funniest thing I have heard today.I've never tried AmericoneDream.. Thanks for that.
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    Ice cream...
    Rub it on your forehead. :)
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    Trump comments /Minas well put
    When people stop calling honest collectors scalpers and questioning their "Deadness" I'll stop using Trump as a noun/adj. Minas how right you are. There are very few people who don't collect something and ebay is the greatest thing sinced sliced bread. I collect Zappa records from all over the world. 20 years ago it was a lot harder and no I don't feel ripped off or scalped when I pay $150 For a used record
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    It's really about the music
    Now that precedent has been set, how about All Music editions of other sold out boxes such as FW69 which is many hundreds of dollars if purchased on eBay? Perhaps Rhino could have considered selling unlimited editions of the four GSTL concerts for $30-35 apiece once the box sold out so that all could share in the music for about the same price, but those that purchased the limited edition box would have something a little different and special for having struggled through the original purchasing process.
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    Lol scalpers
    It always amuses me that 1) people here liken the resale marketers to scalpers (not even close, and completely legal), 2) those same people have no clue that the resellers are an essential element to keeping the vault release program viable, which is good for all of us who want to continue having new Dead CDs available, and 3) not so amusing, but ironic that the "anti-scalper" posters are usually pretty nasty about it. They hope the "scalpers" get screwed, and seem to take it personally that a man or woman should try to profit from collector's items. Yet they will accuse those free market capitalists of being somehow "un-Dead-like". As if they've broken some code of conduct of the Grateful Dead Universe. And I guarantee while those resellers are going about their LEGAL activities, there are plenty of people criticizing them who, I am sure, must have illegally copied a Dead release for a buddy. Guranteed. Well listen up - nobody here is losing opportunities at buying Dead sets that they didn't already pass up on. Buy a Dave's Picks subscription if you don't want to miss out. This new set was available for a few days and has an All Music Edition, so it's here for all. You take away the eBay resellers, and Rhino can't offer as much product throughout the year. Period. And shame on anyone wishing ill will to their brothers who are stimulating the vault market, and doing it legally. You miss Cal Ripken's rookie card, should Topps and Fleer start reprinting them? Of course not. What's discouraging about the whole thing is the sense of entitlement I hear in these complaints. You're not entitled to anything - go work for it. If you were hospitalized or otherwise unable to get a certain release with the system being what it is, I'm truly sorry. I missed FW 1969 and E72 because I kept putting off purchasing until it was too late, and DaP 12 because I was in the hospital, and it sold out in 24 hours. Next time I bought the subscription. I went and got it. If you're cheering for resellers to fail, that's just nasty, shameful ill-will. No, I'm not a reseller, but clearly they're a big part of the Rhino marketing scheme, and they play a significant role in keeping us stocked with new Dead music.
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May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

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....that the drummers decided the count. But you all what they say about assuming....in the end, the boyz usually counted the beats correctly. That is amazing in itself....its rare when a member misses the cue
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usually I hear phil saying what the number is. he wanted the number really high on dave's 22 lol
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Thanks for that tip re: the free stream tonight, Phish. I'd like to take a look and have a listen. Something to fill the void as we all patiently await the next drop... Sixtus
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Thanks for the heads up. Found a copy better than the one I had in stock. I didn't use the seamon mix (I'm usually not hot on the matrix mixes), but there was a very nice soundboard there. I had a ok(?) copy in audience, but the new soundboard is wonderful. Thanks (note - the Peggy-O and Loser are very nice at this point, still waiting to get to It Must've Been the Roses :-) )
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thanks for sharing the link;Bob have many skills... it is "laid back" like an old JJ Cale.I miss JJ very much.
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Half a pound! what a serious Japan Tour...I totally agree with albums ranking; I always got Ram or Flaming Pie for hiking...Thanks for the link
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Yep, 28 years ago, one of the all great runs of the latter era and their 30 year career. Should have already been released in it's entirety. I attended only the 7/18/89 show out of the three and even that one was epic. Virtually every show from '89 is epic. One of the great years, right up there with '70, '72 and '77.
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I am All In on '89. I really enjoy the set lists; they sort of changed things up a bit during the year here and there; also of course the come-backs for several tunes. I also really like how many of the shows have a Stranger > Franklin's to open, or some variation on that with Franklin's up front. Plus the relatively new addition of the midi added different nuances and flavors that were otherwise nowhere to be found. I Know that can be a point of division for some, but I rather enjoyed the romping into that technology and the myriad doors it opened. I say, bring on some '89 then. Sixtus
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I don't listen to a lot of shows from 1989-but from what I have heard, I would say that their use of midi and new technology was one of the defining aspects of the era. It was great that they were willing to experiment with sounds at that stage in their career. There is a real sense of adventure during the space and drums sections from 1989 onwards. They were never going to jam, in 1989, like they had in 1974, but they utilised sounds in 1989 that simply hadn't been invented in the 70s. The other good thing about 1989-well, 1990 onwards perhaps, was their playing with guests, which worked better in this era than in any other.
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Isn't this a message forum for May 77? Back on to the subject, just need to ask where did that heavy reverb come from? May be the best concerts ever by GD but its such a shame the way its mixed.
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I'll Bring it back around to May '77: I'm loading May '77 into my Ipod....that's all I have to contribute.
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i have not yet bothered to listen to any of these or read the book, merely checked the disks for issues when that hysteria was in vogue. it would suck if the reverb ruined this but yours is the first mention. 71 to 76 in heavy rotation, then maybe the 78 box again before getting shown the light.
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The book is pretty good reading. i'd much rather read people's stories of going to shows then actually reading about the band
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....I haven't listened to the Spring '77 box in a couple of weeks. Been stuck in '69-'71 shows. But all good things in all good time....
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I've been sipping Hornitos like a gentleman and cradling Charvel San Dimas Style 1 hardtail, noodling along giving Barton another listen, on shuffle, for interest. What I'm struck by is the intense focus by the drummers and Phil. I can't say the rhythm section was ever tighter, without any loss of the loose feel that defines the Dead. The "pulse" is omnipresent here. It's a pulse, that energy, when it is present and it is present as all hell here. 40 years later it draws the listener in. Talk about a shelf life. It's great, all of it. I could do without Lazy Lightning/Supplication but that's just me and you go on and love it if you wish. No phlegm on Jerry he sounds crystal as does everyone. It's all so subjective to say this is the best show or tour ever, but everything is really clicking here and this is a show where I can appreciate Donna. A beautiful moment caught in time.
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some have been saying the first two phish Chicago shows have been been garbage. they cant be that bad. I liked Coventry so I know I wouldn't have a problem with em at all.
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I bought all 3 Chicago shows, haven't even finished the labeling process yet,, a couple of pokes sounded good.
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I agree, the reverb on these shows does detract from the basic sound. I think these May 1977 shows are great-maybe among the best....since their so called retirement in 1975. But they fall a long way short of the shows played during their peak years-which for me were 1968-1969 and late 1971-1974. The jams in those years knock the shows from 1977 into a cocked hat. Even ones played in May.
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Agree Dave, the gooey goodness years. The reverb comment is interesting.. I believe Betty added this at the time she recorded the shows. I suspect it was not blasted out of the PA that way.. makes the case for a well made Matrix as I believe there are some very good audience recordings from that year. I also believe this is one of the reasons for the legends surrounding these shows (and May 77 in general). For a band not necessarily known for their vocals and harmonies, this reverb smoothed out the rough edges and is pleasant sounding until you get into multiple listens and critiques. I liked it at first but it was a passing fancy.. I tend to prefer a little less of it was we saw later in the year. Anyway.. just a comment, no wrong or right answer, after all it is what it is and we can't change the way it was recorded. Just very happy Betty recorded as many shows as she did and it looks like we are finally seeing a bunch of them in their full glory.
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While digging a bit back into the July 78 box set (which is fantastic and not sold out yet??), conversation led to 1978 Morning Dew and I learned that it was only performed once that year, 4/15/78 at William & Mary. Been listening to a matrix of that second set, this is a fantastic show and recording. I love the bit of audience, a perfectly mastered matrix, not that I'm any expert. Cool Morning Dew as well, love that he unloads during the first solo similar to what he would do for the end of the song normally. I downloaded the matrix so I'm not sure which version it is on Archive, but the high audio quality comes from a great Charlie Miller soundboard. https://archive.org/details/gd1978-04-15.sbd.miller.33683.sbeok.flac16/…
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I just read what JiminMd said about the reverb. I agree and Betty says herself in the book about Cornell,77. Betty said she added reverb to the recording because Jerry liked reverb. But that recording is good, but it sounds a bit too smooth for a Dead recording, they played great, but there is a bit too much reverb.
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I also like the Let me Sing Your Blues Away and the Weather Report Suite, (with the stag banter for yelling at them) and the Dark Star... thanks I am listening now because of your post!!
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it's a good one so far. great choice for road trips. only acoustic dead I had was Reckoning. i'll always think of that moment where they totally nail it vocally on China Doll and the crowd roaring.
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the crowd must have been soaring "Bird Song" ~ 7.26.87 "If you hear that same sweet song again, will you know why? Anyone who sings a tune so sweet is Passing By Laugh in the sunshine Sing, cry in the dark Fly through the Night ...
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This next Dave's Pick should be out real soon, I would think. I have not hesitated to listen to lots of Dead. I think I like the last May box set better than this Cornell box set, Now I got this set differently, got the Cornell show by itself and a friend burnt me Buffalo, just listened to the other 2 on the web. Just don't have a lot of dough to buy CDs at this time. Would anyone like to trade a 3 disc Dead show for my Barton Hall show? Just not listening to it much, it is in grate shape. I would trade for a good Dick's Pick,Dave's Pick or maybe a JGB band release, just PM me. Thanks and have a great day,Jim
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Interesting comments on the sound of the shows in Get Shown The Light. Comments in the book about how Betty had added reverb had passed me by. I always assumed that the shows being officially released were being released as heard at the time, if you were at the show, without being tampered with after the show ended to modify it in some way. I feel as though the more attention I give 8/5/77, the more fallible it seems. Not only is the sound unsatisfactory-but the playing-exemplary though it is, is as guit30 says, just a little too smooth. it doesn't feel, to me, exploratory in anyway. Almost rehearsed in its "perfection". A great rock show-but it doesn't actually have the characteristics of what I have come to think of as a great Dead show. I can imagine it having appeal to someone who isnt into the Dead, more than someone who has heard a lot of shows and likes getting their head bent. By contrast, the last Dead show I listened to was the first show in Dicks Picks 20-25/9/76. On a conventional level, this show is nowhere near as good as Barton Hall. But scratch the surface...the jamming In Dancing in the Street goes places way above the jamming on the same song on 8/5/77. There is a great jammed out Scarlet Begonias, and another highlight is, after a painfully slow Not Fade Away and a perfunctory drums, a Phil led jam that seems to grow organically, with none of the players quite sure where they are going or what will happen from second to second. Magical stuff!
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I agree in everything you say, I have difficulties listening to a lot of 77 contiguously. The playing and sound are very good, but it is missing the surprises you get from many other years. I have also decided I like the worts and better than perfect playing as well.
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I think I could only listen may '77 back to back for so long till I get burned out on the dead as well. there's very little variety in setlists
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I, too, must say I'm a fair-weather '77 listener, although I'm working my way through the June '77 box and it's 101. I can remember on my first San Francisco sojourn listening to these shows in my hotel after long days of exploring the city in late July in 65 degree weather. Bliss! Can't wait, however, to get back to my beloved '72, when the July and August shows ruled the earth!
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....i never thought I would ever say that. Actually, I didn't. Others did. I had to read these last few posts twice to be sure I was seeing the words correctly....yeah, they played Estimated pretty much every night, but they played Dark Star->St. Stephen->The Eleven->Lovelight pretty much every night in '69 and Touch every night in '87, so there's that....
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After listening through the box several times and just finishing Buffalo again I've got to say both shows are great but Cornell wins by a long shot. Why? Mainly because Buffalo contains a few duds, in my opinion and I'll probably get some shit for this but here it goes. First off, the Not Fade Away is much better in Ithaca and the older song mixed in, St Stephen is more of a treat than The Other One played in Buffalo. The Buffalo Comes a Time is great but the Ithaca Morning Dew is legendary and blows it away. Following these tracks I give the nod to Buffalo, Sugar Magnolia and Uncle Johns Band is a much stronger closer than One More Saturday Night. This is where Buffalo wins, at the end of the show it just keeps building and building where Ithaca peaks at Morning Dew and then is over, well other than the standard Saturday Night. Back to the duds, that Sunrise is pretty painful and I've never been a Ship of Fools Fan(runs and hides). Plus, Ithaca has a solid Scarlet > Fire which is always a plus in my book. Just my two cents, after reading people claiming Buffalo was the better show for awhile and having time to digest it all myself I just wanted to add my opinion. Rip away!
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Sad but true. Went thru about 3-4 times. But its not getting spun as much as I thought it would when it showed up. Not the end of the world...........but its collecting dust.
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but Loo, you know you'll roll away the dust next Spring, no?
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Just finished listening to Buffalo again today for the second day in a row. Yes ...it is a great Comes a Time! A great show all together, as is Cornell ... But my vote goes to New Haven. I think this show is one of the best of the month.
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song titles are just a framework. Where the music goes within the song could be different each time. While shows could have similar setlists, each show could have a different feel. I remember before I "got shown the light", I remember Dead-Heads describing shows to me as "snowflakes ... no two are alike". I used to think that meant it was because they never had a setlist. The more I got into them, I realized it was much more than just being spontaneous with what to play, but how to play it. JMO
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I just went back to Dick's Picks 12 (Providence, 6/74) for the superlative Spanish Jam. It never fails to deliver on enhanced spaciness.
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I hope so. Im more than likely going thru a trough now. Might have to break out Dicks 19 or 28 to kick it back in gear.Been on a Genesis kick as of late. Second Out and then there were three. Im sure the rudder will turn for long.................. Be Well!!
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Can't rip away at anyone for liking Cornell the best out of the 4...These shows are all so good and it's so close. I'm with 'Frisco - I think that the New Haven show is highly underrated. It's hard to say because I flip-flop all the time but I think that New Haven might be my favorite of the four. I would definitely rank Boston as #4 on my list though. For what it's worth, my favorite May '77 show is 5/17 Tuscaloosa.
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one my favorite things about may '77 is when jerry would do those pop chops in certain songs. what exactly am I talking about? well a good example is on the music Never Stopped on that Dicks Picks May 77 show.
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Tonight, I got a new set of speakers for my laptop ,what a difference I thought I had the Wall on my computer. Still, nothing like my stereo system, I got them thru the mail.It was a nice surprise, they were not supposed to be here til Sat. Really sound good, had to make some adjustments on my realtec software, which can get so funky. I listened to Barton Hall first, half, Betty Cantor and the other half, a matrix with Hunter Seamons and Jerry Moore. The Cantor recording in the archives did not seem to have as much reverb as the box set. Maybe Jeffrey Norman added some reverb to the mix, remember, Rob Eaton had to do a lot of work into those tapes, they were in real bad shape. Then I watched The Beat Club on Youtube, was awesome, like the close footage on the stage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Uu57h7H18&t=2101s
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it has to be announced tonite. i'll be checking around here at 3am as most of the time is when things are announced for me. if not at all today I fear it will be another dave's picks 20 situation where it wasn't announced until the day before Halloween. that was a rough a month.
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5/19/77 Atlanta (Dick's Picks 29) disc 3 may be the most perfect 65 some-odd minutes of music from the entire year to this listeners ear. Besides the Terrapin>Playin'>UJB>D>Wheel>China Doll>Playin' sandwich, that 16 and-a-half minute Sugaree is quite epic. Buffalo (my other favorite) and Tuscaloosa are definite honorable mentions. Speaking of Atlanta, 5/18 is an underrated gem of a show and not yet released. I could see that as a Dave's Pick with a bonus disc consisting of the remainder of Pembroke Pines show not included with Dicks Picks #3 5/22/77. ......here's to hoping the next Dave's Pick will be 9/26/91 or 4/1/91.....
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LedDed, I also just took DP12 for a spin. I noticed the Mind Left Body jam isn't really the Mind Left Body Jam; it's the "unofficial" Feelin' Groovey jam that appeared sporadically in Dark Stars from '69ish to '72ish. Then they began incorporating it into the China Cat Sunflower jam. Strange... That DP 29 disc you speak of Space is pretty darn good. I like all of the preparation banter that precedes it. The one piece of 1977 I love best is disc one of Dave's Picks Volume 1, 5/25/77 at the Mosque in VA. I missed out on that one when it was initially released. By the summer of 2014, you could barely find a new one on eBay, and if you did, the price tag was between $300 - $400. I eventually got a burned copy of one that summer and then later found someone here who was selling his used one for a good price. I had not given 1977 much attention before hearing DaP 1. I'd had To Terrapin: Hartford 77 for many years, and considered it a decent showing. I had also downloaded May 1977 from dead.net around the same time. But it was the Mosque show that did it for me, particularly the first disc. I hadn't heard Mississippi Half-Step before, and I remember going out for a cool summer night walk with the headphones on, and giving the Dave's Picks with the Star Wars cover its first listen. I was totally blown away, first by the smooth sound, then by the flawless instrumentation, then by the spot-on vocals. The lead vocals were pretty much always good, but here the backing vocals were in perect unison and perfect harmony. And of course I was getting my first taste of Mississippi Half-Step, right out of the starting gate. The rest of disc one was as good as the opening. Jack Straw, Cassidy, Promised Land, Mexicali, and Lazy-Supplication from Bobby; and there was Peggy-O, They Love Each Other, Loser, & Brown-Eyed Women from Jerry (and these were all exceptional versions). The guitar solo in BEW is as good as it gets; Jerry rivaled it only a couple of times that I've heard (DP 29 & DaP 12). Discs 2 & 3 were just as good. But there is some magic in disc one that puts it above all else '77 for me. In hindsight, now that I've listened to all of Spring '77 many many times over, the Mosque still holds up. I prefer the sound of the later May shows, due to Keith moving away from the organ sound he employs up through this Cornell box, and just into the beginning of the first May 1977 box set. I prefer the piano / electric piano sound that he shifted back toward around mid-May. He didn't forsake the organ altogether, but it was featured less, and not so prominently in the mix. I think I would choose this show over Cornell (and everything else). Would be nice if it featured Help / Slip / Franklin, but I guess I cant have it all. I suppose I could tack on the 5/22 version to the end....But yeah, Dave's Picks, Volume 1, great show, disc one. Get some.
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While we are waiting, Garcia Live Volume Nine: August 11th, 1974 Keystone Berkeley comes out next week. Dave's Pick should be announced today?
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Hey FlaBob! I've been in a huge Genesis kick the last couple of weeks too. Started with Selling England by the Pound, then Lamb Lies Down, Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering, detour to Supper's Ready from Foxtrot, then Seconds Out, then And Then there Were Three...(which is underrated). Only problem is, some of those reissues are compressed as hell. Also watched a video of the "Mama" Tour on YouTube the other night. It was the only time I saw them, 1984, I was 15. Kicked ASS, and it was nice to see confirmation in the video. Never wanted to see them after that as Invisible Touch and everything after that causes some nausea for me. Three Sides Live is a great live album too, especially the "In the Cage" medley. I don't share the antipathy felt by many toward the post-Gabriel Genesis, up through Mama anyway. I mean, Duke, Abacab, and Mama still have some pretty effing proggy stuff. It occurs to me that Genesis and the Grateful Dead have something in common - they're both "uncool" to a certain type of music fan. Bummer for them.
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