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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • JimInMD
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    My first GD exposure was 8 track. Ha.. that's one medium I wont miss. I guess I had a bad machine, it kept eating all my tapes. It was really a bad technology... Cassettes were much more reliable.. and contrary to popular belief, I do not see them making a robust comeback. My prized Nak died about ten years back.. the belts had all dry rotted and it started to play reeeeaaaaalllllyyyyyy sssslllllloooooowwwwwww. There is no advantage to cassettes over CD's as far as I can tell, and a lot of drawbacks. I do see the Vinyl appeal, but 8 tracks and cassettes, I just don't see this becoming a wave.
  • alvarhanso
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    The limited announcement yesterday did what it was meant to do in piquing my interest, but I'm still on the fence. These could probably be broken down to 4-5 discs, and there probably won't be any filler, and once again I'll be miffed at short discs, though this time for 65 bucks for 2 shows. I think I'd find 5/8-9/77 as a 2 show box for 65 bucks to be pricey, so it has nothing to do with Brent or '80s hate. I actually like Summer '89-Summer '90 a lot, they were playing at the peak of that incarnation, as evidenced by how much of it's been released. (But feel free to throw this post back at me if they offer a 2 show box of RFK '73 for the same price and I buy it the minute it's announced, because that would likely be my reaction to that RFK box.) The book is probably nice, and I love the books in the boxes. The books are what I really miss about Spring '90 and Europe '72 (though I really love the idea of the steamer trunk). If it's around next year and I got the extra cash, I'll get it. If I miss out, I'll survive, and enjoy the subscription for Dave's 2018 and next year's big box.
  • MinasMorgul
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    5K will be added to the available quantity at some point. It's gone down exactly as I posted it would, although I'm surprised they're going with 15K. They still started with 10K and are now down to 3800 - 3900. Sales, Space Brother are at 6200 roughly, which leaves about 8800 left (5K which muse still be added). I'm not sure what numbers are "more or less brisk", but these are the facts. Brisk is relative I guess. Bottom line is that a good seller is great for us all.
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    I hear eight-track is on the rebound. Might want to fish around the yard sales for one of those Panasonic boom boxes with 8-track, AM/FM and a cool shoulder strap for rocking the 'hood. At least they still make D-cells. Glad to see the RFK '89 box going limited. Why not? I like physical product. Blu-ray's, cd's, more than just download. That being said I fleshed out my missing Dick's Picks off iTunes for a fraction of the cost of what the cd's have gone up to now. There's something reassuring about the certainty of a tangible, physical product on my shelf, should (God forbid) my laptop get stolen/destroyed, hard drive crash, etc. I have so much music from so many sources - friends who have kindly loaned things, items from the public library, iTunes and other downloadable sources, etc. It would be impossible to remember it all, were it to be lost or corrupted, however I know those cd's sitting on the shelves aren't going anywhere and as much of a pain in the ass it is to burn them all in, it's a 100% backup. I have Carbonite cloud backup as well as a portable hard drive but I don't trust it. That pole freak on Veneta is the ultimate acid casualty. Most people made it through but some of them just fried. If that dude is still breathing, he's drooling right now.
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    I have two Blue Ray and a DVD in the living room.. I found myself nodding to what the Ice Cream Kid had to say.. mhammond too. Thin is clearly correct in what he wrote.. but I have one subtle comment to add. I got into a back and forth email chain with Lemieux a few years ago about DVD's, etc. I think it was when the other Alpine show came out, and I missed it due to work.. so there was a little bite in my initial outreach. He did reply.. at length. Keeping in mind.. he was hired as the video archivist as Dick was still alive and well back then. His comment was layered, he was clearly keeping certain things close to his chest, but it was revealing nonetheless. I think the issue with video in general is the market is more segmented and aggregate demand has not justified all the costs involved getting this to market (my words, not his..). The 16,500 number (soon to be higher) is a magic number for vault releases in 2017. Keep in mind Terrapin Limited is still for sale, I'm quite sure it is limited and it has been for sale since 1997. There are tons of deadheads but not everyone has to have the 150 or shows that have already been officially released (what is that number again?). At this point, it is a numbers game for them and contrary to popular believe, once everyone (including the band) gets their cut I doubt if there are mountains of money left over. So back to the video topic.. Dave is all in with video releases. The hesitancy is not on his part. Rhino sells CD's and records.. DVD and Blue Ray is more like an after dinner mint for them.. if they sell and they make a ton of money on them, they'd do more. Reading between the lines from the correspondence all those years ago, there simply is not a terrific demand for GD DVD's. I can't get enough myself, but I say the same thing about the official CD releases too. Another factor is very few were recorded on film, most (the 89 and go forward material) was recorded on the crappy 4" tape common at the time. Find your favorite 1989 sitcom, go to YouTube and watch it.. it's grainy and has the same limitations as the stuff directed (recorded) by Len Dell'Amico during the late 80's. The video will not get better regardless of the medium as the source tapes are subpar. The sound, on the other hand, can benefit from the better mediums... depending on a few things... But look at this another way.. they do have a good bit of video recorded, some of it is pretty damned good. Most of it does have those distracting special affects baked right in. It will get released one day, perhaps they are just keeping their powder dry for when demand picks up a bit. If there are still some SSDD left and I bet they have a ton of the Fare Thee Well left (back to the numbers thing...) my guess is they are just biding their time and will begin releasing them when demand exceeds their magic number. I do prefer Blue Ray, it could be a dying medium, probably because it costs more and people are streaming a lot these days. Us hard-core, especially the audiophiles, will want DVD or probably Blue Ray. I really don't see that changing, streaming is not going to take precedent over the physical product for the person that just shelled out $12,000 for their new surround sound system. ..but who knows for sure what the future will bring except that quack Ray Kurzweil (yes.. I said that). If you made it through this post.. congrats and accept my apologies.. dry stuff.. but we like the GOGD and there's nothing boring about being there, front row center in the comforts of your own living room.
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    I was about to guess it's a hipster thing, but apparently Justin Bieber had something to do with it.Which doesn't make sense either way...
  • Thin
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    Spacebro - You are correct, sir. I forgot there was a DVD/Blu-ray segmentation in the Veneta release. How many Blu-rays did they produce? I don't recall how fast the DVD's sold out. I guess I passed on that because I didn't have Blu-ray AND I'm not enthralled with DVD vid quality, which is like a 720 vs 1080 pixel format (if someones previous post was accurate). I didn't really want to see Polesitter dude in 1080 OR 720 pixels - LOL. As I said earlier, I hope for both our sakes that they continue with the '89 releases. There's a ton of great stuff from that era sitting in the vault. Once the video format gets sorted out, I think we'll see a LOT of '89-'90's releases. re: Cassettes - I've heard they ARE making a comeback. Martin Sexton was on "Above the Basement" recently (highly recommended Boston-area music podcast) and he mentioned that he recently issued his recent release "Mixtape from the Road" on cassette as a novelty item and said they sold out of 1,000 of these in just a week or two, to his amazement. I blame the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie series for romanticizing the format. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/above-the-basement-boston-music-and-co…
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    Dead.net, please put the packaging dimensions in the description. I'd like to buy this but I need to know if it will fit on a CD shelf. I've been burned too many times on oversized packaging to blind buy a Grateful Dead box set ever again without knowing he packaging dimensions first. Thanks!
  • FloridaBobalooToo
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    Numbered or Limited sets don't sound any different to me. Fact is that has nothing to do with my motivation on buying GD stuff. Actually I think I might offer a swap of my GSTL Limited box to someone who really must have it in exchange for a music only set.For the amount of bother to try and turn one of these things for the little profit, just wouldn't be worth my time. Yes I know some sets bring big pricing. Theres the moral thing as has been discussed too. All n All Im after the music. Weekend is HERE!!! 24th Anniversary is the biggie in my trailer park. Taking the wife out for Bar-B-Que and a night at the Shooting Range! Woo-Hoo!!! 9/3/93
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    Spacebro - Thanks for helping make my Blu-ray point. 8/27/72 is indeed still available after 4 years sitting on the shelf despite only producing 12,500 copies, but I find your conclusion that this means 80's is more popular than '72 laughable (respectfully) - it is rather a reflection on Blu-ray, per my previous post. 8/27/72 was a single show plus Blu-ray for $55. That is the only release I have never purchased because I don't have Blu-ray and I didn't want to blow $55 + shipping for 3 CD's I already have (from my DAT days) in pretty darn good quality. (And Mr. Polesitter guy in hi-def NOT a draw) I also doubt they have sold as much of this '89 box as you think - when they plugged the initial number into "inventory" they hadn't yet decided the final production #. Probably input a nice round 10k, not the current 15k you are using in your math. But I could be wrong. We'll find out the next time they update the site. But going numbered/limited edition should boost sales of this box. So ALL the other releases/boxes have sold out or are close to it - most at 15k units or more - while the relatively low 12,500-unit EPIC Veneta show released 4 YEARS AGO on Blu-ray still sits on the shelf... this is why they aren't releasing more Blu-ray.... edit: icecrmkid I just saw your post. I'm not saying Blu-ray is going away forever (though Betamax, Laserdisc, Selectavision, and DIVX did), but the dream of Blu-ray becoming the universal video standard, like CD is for audio, is dead. Again, I think they are waiting for a ubiquitous video format relevant to ALL before releasing more video. Veneta teaches us that Blu-ray is not the answer.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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You are incorrect on the sequence of events. Review the thread, or drop it and let bygones be bygones, as I said. But don't expect me not to respond harassment or insults. Good day sir.
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You know who you are. And thanks! I'm seeing wonderful photos of Jerry, and others, that seem rare to me. Really awesome. Keep it up. Peace. \m/
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"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated" M Twain. or. TP ?
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Tom Petty
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I saw him at the 7/2/86 Akron Rubber Bowl show!! , he backed Dylan, and then did a set before the Dead played... can't believe that was 31 years ago.
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He was a Gainesville Guy and a very cool man who for the most part shunned the rock star ego trip.He also did a lot for the poor people behind the scenes and didn't look for kudos for helping others. A good example.
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Shocked. I saw him several times. My three most vivid memories of Petty are on stage playing, the video for Don't Come Around Here No More, and Judge Reinhold in Fast Times at Ridgemont High soaping up his car to American Girl ( what did he call that car again? Was it the cruising vessel?). His later albums I thought were just as good, although you don't hear as much from them, I think because FM radio has taken a backseat in the past 15 years or so. America's DJs love him. Peace and prayers for Tom Petty!
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I know that the life I am living is no good... just gave me serious chills... RIP, boys...
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Goodness gracious...I see that Bob Dylan's incredible "gospel period" will soon be released as the latest bootleg series. I'm not of the Christian faith, but this is (among) my absolute favorite phases of Dylan. I have some live bootlegs of this period (like Toronto) that are unquestionably great. I pre-ordered the double CD without hesitation, passing on the 'deluxe' 8-Cd 1DVD alternative.
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Pondering whether to preorder the Frank Zappa 3cd Halloween 1977 from that piranha infested river site or wait until after 10/20 and see if the price goes down. "Halloween was Frank Zappa's favorite holiday & by 1977 his Halloween shows were legendary. Recorded live at The Palladium in NYC, Zappa performed 6 shows 28-31 October. 4 shows were filmed & resulted in Zappa's movie 'Baby Snakes.' The Halloween 77 3CD version includes the Halloween night show in its entirety, mixed in 2016 from original Vault masters, plus select tracks from the other 5 shows."
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A few statements 'ol Minas made have proven true: * this RFK minibox did indeed become offically labeled a "limited release * a number has been decided on (15K) * additional stock has been added to the total number available, for a total of 15K. Everything has proceeded as I have foreseen (I do birthday parties and bar mitsvahs as well). Man, that sucks about Tom Petty. I also think of the Don't Come Around Here No More video when his name comes up. One of the most entertaining and original videos of the MTV age. I saw him in 89 and again after Into The Great Wide Open cane out. Will never forget his cover of Should I Stay or Should I Go, the place was bonkers, and then Jammin' Me for the encore, which was one of his great underrated songs, but we'll appreciated by all to close the show that night. Another great underrated tune was All The Wrong Reasons.
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to 1971-1972 Dead. Interesting perspective. They have no clue about the long strange trips before and after. Especially funny is the remark about grateful dead music not being fit for studio recording. LOOOOL. weird scenes inside the gold mine. Save the lectures for your chorus.this rfk kit set is certainly worth getting based on the listening samples. i don't care about pitch unless it's a close ball game. jerry's guitar is singing beautifully here.
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I can't afford to be on this forum any more, every time I turn around someone mentions a great box set. So thank you(?) Ken for bringing up the new Dylan box set, because of you I spent a 140 bucks on some bullshit box and my dog will have to go hungry for another week. No problems he'll survive, Mama may not make it without her meds though. Oh well, this IS the next in the Bootleg series! Really, thanks for the heads-up. Set has been ordered, sorry "pre" ordered. (Odd term, you would think "pre" is before you order, should be "post" ordered now, right?) Oh, one more thing, (knowing the answer to be no), anyone hear anything about the "DIGITAL DOWNLOADS" for the 45s? :-) (I've been told by secret sources that the answer is being looked into by Marye. So I have no doubt in it's inevitable conclusion)
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Gotta Serve Somebody. I opted for the bobdylan.com pre-order which includes an extra 2cd san diego concert, only available there during pre-orders but will add an extra $40 plus so $186 yipes.
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The costume box that will contain the USB with all 6 shows from this run for $100 is a bargain. The Oct 30th and 31st '77 shows themselves are nearly 4 hours long each. The other two nights, Oct 28th and 29th '77 were two show per day runs. I definitely want this.
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"Coincidentally", I just received an email from dead,net with a link to download the digital version of Volume 3 of Grateful Dead 7" Singles Collection. Ain't coincidences grand!. . . Onward.
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I told you Marye would come thru!
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.....telling me that a 5-5-77 CD2 replacement disc is in the mail. Seriously, WTF. How hard is it to replace a defective CD? I’m not the only one who needs a replacement.
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It's really starting to smell like trolls around here...
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Some people are super uncool, making personal attacks in response to honest listening of a band. I never attacked anyone until I was attacked, and frankly can't believe the people that are jumping on board and supporting it both publicly and PM. I had this impression of "Deadheads" that they're peaceful happy go lucky WELCOMING people, and most have been, but there are definitely a few who just don't want to hear that Jerry had an off-note or the keyboard player can't sing, or the girl screams sometimes. You guys are about as uncool as it gets. It doesn't matter whether you're a new comer or long timer, there's just no excuse for attacking someone for having an opinion. I talk about the Who and Stones and other bands with people on message boards who like myself, have been fans for 30 - 40 years. Daltrey sounds great for 70, but is nowhere near the singer he used to be. Same with Mick. We don't attack each other for saying, yeah, he sounded terrible tonight. Mytime, if pitch doesn't matter to you, that's fine - I enjoy shitty singing sometimes too (Brian Johnson). But to mock me for pointing out the guy sounds awful on this particular recording is schoolyard bullying, and I'm not having any of it. It sounds to me like you have a problem with 70s Dead, judging by your comment "It's always good when a Newbie tries to steer you to 1971-1972 Dead. Interesting perspective. They have no clue about the long strange trips before and after". Totally baffling, considering they were in their prime then, which I know because I've listened to all of it, and they don't sound anywhere near as good in 1989 as they did in 1972. Are you going to say the Who sounded as good in '82 as they did in '70? Or that the Stones sound as good now as they did in '78? That's not to say they're not still great bands, only to say they've lost a step or two.
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Feel free to ignore 28 of them if that's your drill. I have nothing whatsoever against 70s dead, btw. For your deadification, this here is a thread about the 1989 RFK box set. You critiqued the long-awaited free listening party samples. Brent is not my favorite period, but this sounds pretty good to my ears, way exceeding what I expected. If you can't stand this, do yourself a favor and ignore anything involving Brent. You will have lots of people that agree with you too. Nobody is forcing you to buy this. I recommend Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead 4 cd set to you, available for half the price of this one.
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You’ve been initiated.....
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I'm just thankful the band didn't invite Yoko Ono to join them after Donna left.
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...off Aoxomoxoa coming across my pair of Bose right now. Shirdeep great photos! As far as Yoko, well she's still alive, let's get her out onstage with Dead & Co. to shriek over Playin' in the Band. Yeeeeaaayyaaaaayyah, yeeaaahyahh, YEAYAHHHHH!!!! YAAAHHHH!!!
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Welcome to Club Dead...where the wind don't blow so strange...
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I would think that the more you listen to a band, the more critical you become. As you become aware of the peaks they can hit,all the nuances within the music and when they are truly on form, then it becomes more apparent when they are performing less well. Certainly listening to the Dead over the last...42 (!) years, I would say I am more aware of their peaks and troughs now-what to me are their peaks and troughs I should say. Like I lot of people on this board,I have heard sooo much music by this band over the years. One of the results of this is maybe that I have become less tolerant of some eras of the band that I no longer like. I recently played a show, featuring a version of Eyes Of The world, that I had to break off from. I thought it was awful-but then the day before I had heard the version from 11/11/73 form the Winterland, which I had thought transcendent. The other version just wasn't as good-to my ears. In 1990, to pick a year at random, I would have been quite happy with the show I can now no longer stand. I always enjoy this board most when differing views are expressed-it would be dull as ditch water if everyone agreed on everything. But its always a low point when people resort to personal insults to try and get their point across.
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No one would argue that The Who were better post Keith Moon. No one would argue that The Stones were better post Exile On Main Street. "Better" being the key word. But that's not the case with the Grateful Dead. The Dead's music is divided into three "eras" 1. Pig 1966-1972 2. Keith and Donna 1972-1979 3. Brent or the 80's 1980-1990 and each era has its advocates and detractors. Many 80's era advocates feel their favorite era is treated with disdain by many, even suggesting that this prejudice against the 80's is at play in the selection of official releases. It's an argument that will never be resolved but also an amazing compliment to a rock and roll band that broke up in 1995. This doesn't explain why some posters here (from all era "camps") get so reflexively rude, defensive, and insulting. I'm at a loss there. And you haven't even met RV3 or Patagonian Fox yet.
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The opinion of how someone feels about Brent's vocals on the "Listening party #1". To say Brent is somehow "off key" here, not an accurate assessment on actual technical merits, but an opinion, then to play the "well I've listened to the Dead more than you, so you don't know what your talking about and are delusional" card, is just ridiculous. If a person is going to insinuate that the several thousand people who have pre-ordered this are "lesser Deadheads than thou", because this person doesn't like Brent's vocals, someone is bound to respond unfavorably to that insinuation.
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I just lost my whole post trying to edit it. Well then, have a pleasant one, and to sum it up, good Scarlet jamming by Jerry on 7/7/89 and Morning Dew from GD Movie Soundtrack.
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So, Hank Hill was a Deadhead?
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Was it for this my life I sought?
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I'm looking at different CDs to buy from various years. Looking for the best shows, but reviews are all pretty much the same. There is a huge price discrepancy, so what is the difference between the less expensive shows? Are the higher priced ones that much better in quality? I realize the higher priced ones are sold out, but still, there are plenty of other sold out CDs that aren't priced so high. Are they that much better or not at all better? Specifics: Winterland 1973 Complete Recordings / $150 for three shoes in November Vs. Dave's Picks Volume 5 / 1 show $425 (shows are a week apart) To Terrapin Hartford 77 / $20 1 Show May 1977 Vs. Daves Picks Vol. 1 / $425 1 Show May 1977 (3 days apart) Dead Set 1980 / $25 for 1 show Oct '80 Vs. Daves Picks Vol. 8 $285 / 1 Show November '80 (1 month apart)
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This is probably neither the time nor the place...but I would say The Stones had quite a few discreet eras in their career, too, with fairly clear beginnings and endings. There was the initial rhythm and blues years, followed by the pop/psychedelic era in the mid 60s, the great Beggars Banquet up to Goats Head Soup series of albums, the Ronnie Wood years in the 1970s the 1980s and then the 1990s up to the present day characterised by the mega shows. Butch indicated 1978 was a good year-and although it yielded the Some Girls album and Miss You single, it was a time I didn't much care for. They always seemed to be trying to play too fast, to me, in order to keep abreast of the times. There's a video of a live show from 1978, where Mick Jagger is wearing a tee shirt with a swastika on it- a terrible gaff, presumably worn in an attempt to out do punk. The Dead had the best response to punk-they ignored it!
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Hey Butch, they are all great releases-the difference in price is due to the exclusivity of the release. Daves picks are limited releases so they carry a hefty price on the re-sale market. Winterland 73 is the rare release that has sold out but can still be found for reasonable prices. It's amazing pick and if you feel comfortable with the price, I promise you won't regret it. Dead set is a nice compilation album but if you're looking for something from the early 80s, you can find dicks picks 13 (5/6/81) for very reasonable prices on eBay. Same with dicks picks 5 (dec 79) and dicks picks 6 (oct 83). Hope that helps-
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Real Gone Music is starting to reissue Road Trips, starting with the last release and working back to the first. https://shop.realgonemusic.com/products/grateful-dead-road-trips-vol-4-… $150 for Winterland ‘73 is a good price if unopened. It was $99 or more when released. Dead Set is a compilation and was available for decades as a single CD. You can probably find it in a brick and mortar CD store if such a thing exists. It now comes as 2 CD’s in the Beyond Description Box. To Terrapin was not limited and is currently out of print, but that doesn’t mean that more wont be made in the future.
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warlocks 10 o8 1989 hampton Foolish Heart Walkin' Blues Candyman Me and My Uncle Big River Stagger Lee Queen Jane Approximately Bird Song Promised Land Help on the Way Slipknot! Franklin's Tower Victim or the Crime Eyes of the World drums I Need a Miracle The Wheel Gimme Some Lovin' Morning Dew We Bid You Goodnight https://archive.org/details/gd89-10-08.sbd.unknown.8365.sbeok.shnf
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Thanks 80sfan, keithfan, and icecrmcnkd. I went with Dead Set, To Terrapin, which I guess they got more of, because it's here on this website, and the Winterland 73 new off of eBay. That's great news about the Road Trips series, because they're priced pretty steeply on eBay. Keithfan was nice enough to PM and send a great sound board of Daves Picks 8 (you are right, great Feel Like a Stranger opening, and I'm to say, Brent is in tune)
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Dorm room SDSU 1973. Meeting my new friends in Toltec Male Housing Residence. In my new neighbor Steve Lightfoot's room thumbing through his LP collection I come across an LP entitled Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys Greatest Hits. I pull it out and ask Steve if this is a joke LP? He replies "No. I stole that from my Dad's record collection. I couldn't live without it." I said "WTF? The cover looks like a Zappa joke!" He said put it on and listen. "When you go out with that girl you got to wear asbestos pants." Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys. "Ahh Leon!"
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. JOHN ALEC ENTWISTLE ....FOR YOU WHO FANS WOULD HAVE BEEN 73 AND MR JOHN LENNON WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN 77..... A WONDERFUL BASS PLAYER AND AN INCREDIBLE SONG WRITER.... NOW BACK TO YOUR REGULAR SCHEDULE......BRING IT ON DAVE..WHAT IS YOUR NEXT PICK??
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Feel Like a StrangerBuilt to Last Little Red Rooster Ramble on Rose We Can Run But We Can't Hide Jack-a-Roe Stuck Inside of Mobile Row Jimmy Music Never Stopped Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Playin' Reprise Dark Star drums Death Don't Have No Mercy Dear Mr. Fantasy Hey Jude Reprise Throwin' Stones Good Lovin' Attics of My Life https://archive.org/details/gd89-10-09.sbd.serafin.7721.sbeok.shnf
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Ok, I could probably live without Bob Wills, but would you want to? :-) I never heard of the guy until I moved to Texas, but now have a decent chunk of him. They were good (if you like texas/cowboy swing). This is one of the things I like most about this forum and group of people, is the wide array of music listened to. Yeah you can go anywhere and hear of the big names, stones, who, and others. But Bob maybe not much. Anyone for Al Jolson? I'm Alabamy bound They'll be no heebie-jeebies hanging 'round Just gave the meanest ticket man on earth, all I'm worth, Just to put my tootsies in an upper berth They don't write them like that anyone.
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