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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • unkle sam
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    complaint?
    No complaint, just the facts. Look it up.
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    Elvis-The Beatles
    The lines "I'd rather see you dead little girl, Than to be with another man" in The Beatles "Run For Your Life" on Rubber Soul also appear in the Elvis version of "Baby Lets Play House"-one of the best rockabilly tracks ever recorded, incidentally. But again, the Beatles actual song is very different. John Lennon, who wrote it, later put his own song down as being substandard. And in the company of the other songs he wrote in 1965, it is. But he wrote so many ground breaking, original and still amazing sounding songs during the 1960s that the odd blooper is to surely to be expected.
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    possibly - nevermind
    Possibly - I can't find the movie, you don't remember any of the the Beatles songs discussed or the songs they allegedly plagiarized, and now you're simultaneous emphatically REasserting "Yes, the Beatles plagiarized", and then in your last line saying maybe it isn't "plagiarism"? You're killing me. Moving on....
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    I prefer the term borrowing....
    ....more friendly
  • Vguy72
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    The worst example of plagarism I've ever seen....
    https://www.jambase.com/article/full-show-audio-joe-russos-almost-dead-…
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    I'm not huge into The Beatles and can't remember the actual tunes that were analyzed in the "Deconstructing" movie, and I don't feel like watching it again just to back up my comment. I do remember that the analysis in the movie was absolutely phenomenal, and I really recommend it, especially if you like The Beatles. In one case, there was an Elvis song that the Beatles used, and that Elvis song in turn was taken from black radio. In another case, I wouldn't have recognized the source had he not played the two side by side. Part of the brilliance of the analysis was in tying the Beatles song to whatever it was they were listening to at the time. Yes, The Beatles plagiarized. Yes, they made it their own. Yes, all music is in some way plagiarism; otherwise no one would ever be interested in anyone's influences. That's what I meant when I said we're standing on the shoulders of giants. Plagiarism is perhaps too strong a word.
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    Blatant plagiarism
    Vanilla Ice ripping off Queen. Stones sue Verve, but Stones should have paid Staples http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=478
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    Agreed on all points - and subliminal songwriting happens. That's what happened to Harrison with "He's So Fine" - probably just heard it so many times in the background on the radio that he started humming it without noticing the source. (Yes he got sued - I think settled out of court for a pretty penny. There was a McCartney song (I think "Yesterday"?) that he wrote and didn't do anything with for a while because it popped into his head so completely and easily he assumed it was some old chestnut he had "learned" subliminally. But then he played it for everyone and no one recognized it, so he gave it lyrics and recorded it. I've mentioned it before, but Geoff Emerick is the engineer who worked under George Martin for most of their albums - his book "Here There and Everywhere" is a fascinating fly-on-the-wall account of his time with them. A must-read with insights into every album that will allow you to hear their entire catalog with fresh ears. Back to the Dave's Picks board. 25 should be coming soon!
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    Yah, forgot about this one, but I hardly think it counts. This "plagiarism" topic came up in the context of Led Zeppelin/Dylan lifting songs in WHOLE CLOTH - lyrics, chord progressions, etc - and telling people "I wrote that". Comparing the Beatles to THAT is like comparing a murderer to a jaywalker. One line from the song IS borrowed: "Here come old flat top, he was movin up with me" was Berry's original line. That does NOT mean Chuck Berry wrote the masterpiece (and one of my favs) Come Together. The Beatles DID get sued for this, and settled out of court (by agreeing to cover 3 of Berry's songs! An odd punishment... "You stole my song - your "punishment" is to please, PLEASE record 3 more!" - Trivial suit, comical resolution. Nobody hearing those two songs together would notice borrowed line if you didn't point it out. Is this the only example of Beatles alleged "plagiarism" we can think of? "Possibly" had mentioned that the movie he saw had examples of plagiarism, which I suspect were more explanations of influences and inspiration (ie: John taking the chords from Moonlight Sonata and playing them backwards as a starting point when writing "Because", or George Harrison calling one of the Byrds to tell him they had just recorded a chorus structure inspired by them) That's not plagiarism - that's just getting shown the light in the strangest of places.... Hey, is there a GD board around here somewhere?
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    I seem to remember reading once that Ripple has the same melody-or chord structure-to a song in one of the big musicals of the day. I think it was a song from Joseph and His Technicolor Dream Coat. I have never heard the song from the musical, so I can't comment. But apparently, if I remember right, both parties were informed of the similarity-and neither cared.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Is Rhino going to get this release right? Bc we know creating CDs now counts as rocket science. I can't wait to see how they screw this one up.
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Not a mention of limited editions or other qualifiers this seems to be a real release for the masses. They should put in the DVDs too, you know they have them... Where's the Dave's seaside chat?
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I'm trying to order this from my phone but I can't as the "first name" field won't stay on the screen and I can't access it. I pull it down and it skips right back up.
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Did they forget about the 70's...geez, if they'd only release more shows from the 70's.
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Love those multi-track mixes so keep 'em coming! Though with this release and the previous July 4 Buffalo release I'm starting to doubt I'll ever get my Alpine '89 Box:(
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I caught these.. I think I have just one listen since, years ago.. so this is a pleasant surprise. yea.. where are the DVDs? You're not holding out on us, are you Dave? :D
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Yes, where are the DVD's? Add the DVD's and charge more. Everyone will be happier!
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Also for Garcia's bday today, NPR's The Takeaway used all Dead for its interstitial music. I know I caught Peggy-O and Don't Ease Me In. Not sure what else they included.
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Awesome! "Why not 2 box releases per year, Spring and Fall?" I recently commented. And here we are. Balances out the '70's-centric Dave's picks series, so releasing stuff from all eras. If we plodded along at 1 box/yr it would take forever to release gems like Ark box '69, Winter/Spring '71 box, Feb 73 box, Spring or Summer '73 box, Summer '76 box, Fall '77 box, Jan '79 box, '83 '84 Greek boxes, '91 Boston box, etc.... I guess they figure this box won't eat into Dave's Picks subscription sales. Given the recent outcry about DaP selling out so fast, I'm guessing they're not worried about this cannibalizing DaP sales. Yes, interesting that they are only releasing the audio, not the pro-shot video. Still waiting for the optimal video format/delivery method I guess.
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This is fantastic and also caught me off guard. I love me some '89, '90, '91....damn all of it. But '89 had some interesting setlists and the bust out of the MIDI, which I thought helped to bring everyone to new directions. Very happy to see this. Sixtus
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Of all the 2 night runs this is what you go with? Still, nice to venture out of the 70s. Maybe these are better than I recall. From memory these nights weren't very remarkable. No matter, no holes in my collection, ordered. Shame about the lack of DVDs, that's almost criminal negligence right there.
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Yea.. they should offer the DVDs. I pushed Dave on why they don't release DVDs a few years back. I didn't get a direct answer, but I suspect if sales of prior DVDs were more robust, we would have gotten more DVDs released. Perhaps its a Rhino decision, not sure.. I can't help but think Dave would be all in.. I mean.. they already have the video for these shows. Perhaps a slow but steady drum beat would help? DVDs please.. DVDs yes.. :D On the bright side.. at least they remembered Jerry's birthday!!
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For $65 right? Isnt that steeper than usual for two shows? Im thinking the video will be included.
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Dave is all about the DVD's...so, if they aren't included, its above him. I'll still remain optimistic that we'll see another DVD release, of whatever show, eventually.
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It seems like a rush job on the page and lots of info left to be filled in later.Warlox 89 had the nice rolling tray and other schwag as part of the box and just recently sold out. The Buffalo and Philly 1989 Summer releases both have DVDs, the meet up at the movie tonight is one of these shows and probably a special announcement of the release will be part of the movie tonight. Maybe they just haven't told us about the DVDs yet, C'mon add some special surprise bonus DVDs Mr Pinkus. On the other hand with no preorder bonus this will probably be available in a lesser cover on Amazon like the Sunshine Daydream set with "exclusive" dead.net slipcover the only difference.
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You fixed it!!! Thanks!!!
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GOOSEBUMPS when i think about 7.13.89 "Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again" "To Lay Me Down" here is comments from Dave's Picks 22 page !!!!! KEEP EM COMING RHINOS, I COMPLAIN A LOT, BUT STILL APPRECIATE THE TIME IT TAKES TO MAKE THESE AVAILABLE May 30, 2017 - 6:50am #1082 mbarilla mbarilla's picture Online Joined: Aug 8 2013 Send PM "Go get one" ~ the Last 5 would love to hear these shows !! http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19680530.html last 5 ~ 11.22.68 ~ https://archive.org/details/gd68-11-22.aud.cotsman.10088.sbeok.shnf/gd68... ~ Ladies and Gentlemen April 1971 compilation ~ lots of graduation parties over the weekend and neighborhoods full of people. Perfect time to cruise around and blast this one !! HAHA one huge party had cars lined up the street for as long as the eye could see got treated to a special serving from the MAN himself ~ PIGPEN !!! "Uncle John's Band -> Turn On Your Lovelight" ~ 4.27.71 , served em up just as PIGPEN was staring his "Pocket Pool" rap on the recording. Really hope to see the May 1971 RSD (anniversary today) release on CD, that one never really gets mentioned. ~ 12.30.86 ~ start of 2nd set Grateful Dead Hour ~ WCBE 90.5 ~ 7.8.81 ~ Tapers Section from yesterday ~ 7.13.89 ~ Tapers Section from yesterday , sweet 1st set and this combo was a real treat for me, certainly not the best but i could only imagine for the newer audience at show , must have floored a lot of people ~ Skull Splitter stuff "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again ; To Lay Me Down" BRING ON THE 1980's RECORDINGS and RELEASES RHINO !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------- *+*+* ~ TO LAY ME DOWN ~ *+*+* *+*+* ~ LET THE WORLD GO BY ~ *+*+* *+*+* ~ To wait beside you *+*+* ~ my love still sleeping *+*+* ~ to tell sweet lies *+*+* ~ one last time *+*+* ~ and say goodnight
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Haven't spent money for dead in a LONG time - we usually just stream shows. But this is part of my history - I think I need it!
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There must be something lurking under the surface. As it stands I'm definitely not going to get this one. I may be into The Dead-but its nice to at least try for a bit of discernment.
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Thanks; have ordered. How about a deluxe set of the '73 Dead/Allmans RFK shows. Include the openers Wet Willie and Doug Sahm too.
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Why aren't the DVDs being released? Especially since you know they already went through the trouble of syncing the audio to the video for at least the first show for the movie event. Please include the DVDs in this box set! It's been 7 years since Crimson White and Indigo and we would love to see another DVD release
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Trying to buy one of these. Added to cart, went to checkout, nothing in cart. Went back thinking maybe it didn't get added and did it again. Now have a "2" in the upper-right on dead net, but nothing shows up, "Cart is Empty" on gratefuldead.warnermusic com. Like dead net isn't comunicatin' with warnermusic. Anyone else having a problem ordering?
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It's becoming extremely difficult to find any new hardware that contains a DAC chip that decodes HDCD. This technology is at its end and is subject for debate if it was really any good to begin with. PLEASE STOP USING HDCD and START USING SACD. Regarding the release, this may be the first I don't order. I have a ton of 1989 and don't feel it's necessary for my collection. However, if the DVD's of both nights were included, would be a no-brainer. Miss you Jerry, always; but on your birthday especially. Cheers....
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Daves Picks 23 was made in Mexico. Rhino, really. For what we pay, it should be MADE IN THE USA!
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You lucky people, I only had to pay $10 for P&P but suppose I'll get hit with customs at my end.
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LOVE that this is getting the 24 track mix treatment AND a 192/24 digital download option! EVERY SINGLE RELEASE SHOULD HAVE A DIGITAL DOWNLOAD OPTION, period! Looking forward to this!
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I don't want the dvd. It would add to the cost and I have no interests in sitting down and watching a video from 89. The Dead music yes but visual in 89 no.
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For some time now GD releases have been marked as HDCD but no HDCD encoding is actually used, not even peak-extend. The discs will trip the HDCD flag on a HDCD-equipped player (or ripping software like dBpoweramp with HDCD plug-in) but all that means is that a (now old but still very good) Pacific Microsonics Analog-to-Digital Converter was used in the mastering. (You can tell what features are active by playing the discs using foobar2000 with the HDCD plug-in and setting it to display HDCD status.) Playing them through a HDCD player will just reduce the volume by 6 dB. The undecoded files sound the same as decoded files that have been boosted 6 dB to get back the missing volume. It's misleading to advertise these as HDCD discs and that practice should stop but your're not missing anything by not having an HDCD player.
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No mention of a DVD that I can see.? its a 6 cd box set.
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....I rarely have the time to sit down and watch a concert, so no skin off my back. I like this release. I like it a lot....
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All my main players decode HDCD. And you don't need special player to play one. SACD you do unless you have hybrid SACD which has two layers which I suppose most are now for compatibility. Why not HDCD and SACD dual layer disc to cover all modes. Does anyone even make SACDs anymore? I've missed the HDCD mastering on the last few Garcia Live CD releases. Not that the CDs don't sound quite fine played on an Oppo BDP-83SE I have dedicated to my old I guess vintage nowadays stereo system I play this stuff on. (Someone in another thread mentioned folks here probably in their 30s-40s... try 60s-70s!)
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This does not appear to be a limited edition numbered set. I'm not stressing about it, but just wonder why? Too much heat about the Cornell box? Thoughts?
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...easily ordered...low overseas shipping...hopefully no import charges!
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I thought this was like JFK '89, Crimson, white, indigo with video, but is it just audio? Not to bitch, but...65+shipping, tax for just 6 discs of audio? No, I don't think I'll go for this. If it was Giants, I would, since those were my first shows, but.....none of these big stadium ones are as hot as the first night at Alpine valley was which was one of the best of the year. Think RFK '90, the pre-drums which was released on the RFK '91 as filler is better than the two in '89 also.
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I do not see anything about this being limited. Does anyone know if this is a general release? This is a nice surprise from Dave L. who doesn't like the 80's (it is has been reported, but not proven).
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At least it's not limited edition, right? I can wait to decide for when I become the richer deadhead I always imagined myself to be?
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This is a great release. Summer '89-Spring '90 is the last truly fantastic period for the GD. Every show from Summer '89 is dynamite. Thanks to all involved for releasing these shows.
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Crimson white indigo is on Amazon now for under $29. For viddy and audio. Just saying. For the record, think this is great too, hate when deadheads bitch too much, as I am guilty of sometimes, and am glad it's coming out, especially in mixed multitrack excellence. (Just hope it doesn't mean Giants will never be released!) Maybe the DVD will be a bonus surprise in the package and then won't we all feel greedy.....
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An easy purchase :) Great couple of shows here, and Normanized no less! Bummer there's no DVD, but I'm sure some stealth head will film tonight's meet up and post it like they did the Beat Club meet up. All in all a nice Tuesday surprise right before heading to the movies tonight.
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I love '89 and attended many shows that year. But I think there's a typo on this page. Shouldn't the dates for the initial RFK box set be June 9 and 10, 1973?
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If there is no DVD, how much is the digital download?
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No Jack.. you have that confused with the box that gets announced on August 8th. :D
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A lot of site traffic, but eventually got it ordered ...... another great release. Keep them coming' !!
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