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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • Vguy72
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    ....i love roller coasters. I love getting strapped in to prep for the ride. I also love The Grateful Dead. I love getting strapped in to prep for the ride. Sometimes one needs to strap in mid-song. You know. When your ear catches a certain tone. All part of the plan....
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    An impossible question to answer.. If there were no changes in keyboardist.. no doubt these threads would disintegrate into vitriol about personnel changes behind the skins. I liked Mickey's contributions.. I always viewed him as the mad professor w/ sticks, strings and large clubs. I like the soundtrack from Apocalypse now and his use of The Beast in the second set. Sure.. they sounded like ill-timed popcorn poppers at times and had their good and off nights. But when they were on, especially in the later years.. the drums space segment was its own show inside the show. When it worked, it worked well.. when it didn't, perhaps Jerry or Phil were having a good night so I would focus on them. One Edit: Keep in mind.. Mickey was in the band from 9/67 through 2/71. There were some mind blowing performances in those years. I guess my take is take it for what it's worth. Second Edit: I do like the 72 through 74 a whole lot too. Billy had a great perspective on this in his book.
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    Voodoonola just posted this....
    ....in my inbox like a Spanish lady's rose. Spanish ladies are spicyhttps://youtu.be/2KGLXtYx_mw See that freak in the wife beater? Name is Hart....
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    It's in the mix. I'm sure it's in there. Cracked me up.
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    Billy during drums
    Wonder if the release will have Billy's Holy FS in it!
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    HDCD is fine with me
    The Grateful Dead releases I have listened to are mastered in HDCD but don't actually use any of the HDCD advantages. No Peak Extension is used. I am also fine with most CDs. So for the less easily satisfied we we could wish for DSD in addition to lossless 192/24 downloads. Devices like your OPPO would have no problem playing DSD downloads. BTW: I am will be getting the 192/24 downloads. I would really like to see CD + lossless file download at a priced reduced from the cost of buying them separately. Old Stereo owner in the later group of folks.
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    Well, there is one thing we can all agree on....
    ....The Grateful Dead would not exist without Jerome John Garcia. Fact. I don't look at The Dead as a science experiment. I look at them as a celebration.... edit....been a while since I've gone primal. Been in a 77, 78, 82 mode lately. Went through a Thelma phase a month ago. Figured it's time to go through the DP 16 Fillmore Aud 11.8.69 wormhole. I hear this guy named Hart does some percussion....i like making my bed to this era
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    You are correct, the addition of Mickey Hart narrowed the drumming significantly. Billy went from a one man rock / jazz / prog virtuoso, who had room to add his fills and actually steer the band during improv pieces, to a one-two, one-two, one-two layer down of the back beet, while Mickey would throw tom-tom rolls down on top of it (or cowbells). It's just what Jerry wanted or Phil or whoever (certainly not Keith, because this slowly encroached on his musical space within the band). Bob Weir too. He ended up moving toward that thin high end part of the spectrum, just to be heard (his words). Bad move in my opinion. They never should have touched that '74 sound, cuz it was gold. Butterfly effect. People will defend the move and cite a song or two here or there, and sure, Samson and Delilah required two drummers, and b the Let It Grow section sounded awesome in 1977, but by and large, they moved forward with a legacy of old songs that lost their precision with Mickey there. Compare Uncle Johns Band in Winterland 77 to the delicate nuanced touch of Winterland 73, and you hear exactly what the band lost. Sugar Magnolia. Greatest Story Ever Told. It goes on and on, but this is what the decision makers in the band wanted. Even Phil commented that they'd lost the magic after the hiatus. And then by the last 15th years of their career, they were into electronic drums and triggered sounds and the like. I don't get the impression from his book that Bill had any choice. And clearly Keith had no choice what kind of keyboard he was going to play, because he quit the band over it. I would love to know who decided Mickey's return was necessary and why (rom the decision makers, not the opinion columnists).
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    Others' thoughts on the later drumming/Hart's role?
    Maybe people here will think I'm being negative here, but I'm simply being earnest about my impressions below, and not trying to stir up anyone's ire. I'm not much of a musician myself, and so am particularly curious about what others, particularly the more 'musically-sophisticated' think about these (musical) matters. So here goes:Saw this new box set and, unfamiliar with the shows, immediately went to check them out at the Archive for potential purchase. Out of impulsive curiosity I clicked first on the second night's Other One, a piece I consider a more demanding test of the Dead's playing in the later era. Immediately I had a common response to late 80's and 90s recordings- disappointment with the drumming- particularly with Hart's, from what I could tell from my laptop (for casual show reviewing)- which sounded under-powered and sloppy in its timing/synching with the rest of the band, which made it hard for me to lose myself in the band's playing. This brings up two issues I have with shows during the band's later years- that after '86 or so, the drumming sorta fell off the map for me with most shows, and that after the 70s, Hart's contribution to the band more obviously becomes a liability to my ears. To preface this- I understand that advancing age may make a drummer's job physically harder than a keyboardist's or string player's, and that later on the other band members had their weaknesses as well, compared with the earlier years- and that substance abuse, changing lifestyles, ambivalence about touring by a certain member etc. certainly impacted the band's onstage creative dynamic, particularly Jerry's towards the end. That being said, when I listen to later-era Dead, the decline in the drumming tends to jump out at me first and be much more often problematic- it's usually less creative, less nuanced, and much less energetic than the earlier years. Were they just not able to keep up their stamina like they used to? Part of this I also attribute to there being two drummers. While I recognize Hart's contributions to Kreutzmann's early drumming development, plus the excitement and raw energy possible with two drummers, plus the many interesting drum portions of later concerts, I've always felt that Hart's return to the band subtracted from the more articulate, jazzy, and nuanced playing of the solo-Kreutzmann era, particularly as time went on. While it's impossible for me to imagine the Dead's instrumental excellence being possible without Lesh or Weir (and obviously Garcia was beyond crucial), many Heads' favorite era (and mine as well) is the one that also happened to be sans Hart, particularly '72 to '74. Part of that is obviously due to where the band members were in their overall creative and life trajectories, plus the addition of Keith on keys, but part of it I believe is that the sound balance was better with just one drummer, and Kreutzmann could fully develop his strengths as a player. With Hart's return, and after the initial flush of the first few years back in action, to my ears the decline in the drumming becomes more obvious, even clearly 'dumbed down,' partly due to Kreutzmann's having to reasonably synch with someone else playing in his domain- he just couldn't 'stretch out' as much. While the drummers still had many strong nights, the drumming just didn't compare to the early 70s, and by the late 80s it was (on the instrumental side of things) most often the band's weakest link. Maybe just my biases (and for what it's worth, any 'Mickey problem' doesn't begin to compare in my mind with the 'Vince problem'). What do other people here think?
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    For those experiencing the same problem: Using Firefox browser on a Mac OS X system. The problemsolving tactic was to go into my Firefox preferences and allow "3rd party cookies" to be accepted. Doing so allowed the transfer of my shopping cart info from GDM proper to the Warner system. $77 later I am enrolled to receive this release in November! Not a great price and not a great selection of shows IMO, but 80s getting represented! I want 80s releases, so my money goes where my mouth is! Let's do some more 80s in 2018!
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Thanks for the warm welcome. I have listened to a bit of "without a net" and "nightfall of diamonds" but I'll try to pick them up. A lot of people are surprised that I "get it", Im just happy that you've all welcomed me in despite the age disparity. I feel privileged that I'm able to "get it" and be able to experience this community and this great music. I wrote a narrative essay and definition essay for English 101 on being a deadhead and the term "deadhead" a few weeks ago, I'm glad to be able to share it with others and try to help others have, or at least share with them the fulfilling experience I have had. Thanks again!
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Chase - we're on the same boat, i was born in Thailand a couple of days before the 'warlock' shows in Hampton and finally got the bug in 2015. I welcome any release and so thankful for them (though i'd love a few more '79-'85!). Go see Dark Star Orchestra if you can and don't forget to say a word of thanks to Rob Eaton! or even better Dead & Company!!!
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Haven't checked in for a long while, and immediately had the Talking Heads playing in my mind, "Same as it ever was." lol Hope there has been some fun and nice chatter between the inevitable Decade Wars! FWIW, I am a wee bit disappointed, as much as the '70s are VERY well represented in official releases, that a two show box of RFK is for sale and it isn't the June '73 shows with ABB. Oh well. Wouldn't be surprised if that has a lot to do with getting premission, and sharing profits.
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...you need to call the bank! Thanks Guss.
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This is for the folks that have pre-ordered - what is the total cost including tax and shipping? Thanks...
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Maybe you are right. I'm thankful to have as much Grateful Dead as I do. I remember the old days when we got like 1 show a year released on CD. It just seems (to me anyways) that lately it's been A LOT of 70's. In the big picture it probably does balance out. Thanks for the "warning" about Dave. It made me laugh, but then I thought how messed up it would be to come home one day and find 5/7/77 or 3/16/90 missing from my laptop. I would be DEVASTATED!!! Nowadays, we all must remember...big brother very well could be watching. Peace out dogg!!!
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That’s great that you dragged your step dad along. Now drag him to a D&C show, or better yet, go without parental supervision if you can (don’t blame me if you get in trouble). It’s great that you caught the virus......there’s no going back. My advice is learn to do torrents and collect everything, starting with anything that has the name Charlie Miller associated with it.
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Comments don't get any more "deader than thou" than what you wrote Spacebrother. Let me refresh your memory. You wrote: "If so-called fans listen to that Let It Grow from the Listening Party, and still pass on this, they might as well quit listening to the Dead all together and sell or trade their collections for Kid Rock albums. That's about as lame as they are." Your words here convey the very attitude you condemned as "deader than thou". You are saying here that in order to be a real fan and not a "so called" fan, one must purchase this 1989 cd set. You go on to say we may as well stop listening to all Dead if we're not going to get this '89 set. Sounds "deader than thou" to me. You're saying here that we're not worthy enough to listen to any Grateful Dead music whatsoever simply because we don't want to buy this '89 set. And then in your conclusion, you call us all lame. Your comments that I kindy copy and pasted verbatim are about as Trumpian as can be. You even sound like him. Oh the irony. You owe us all an apology. You owe the non buyers of the '89 RFK set an apology for your deader than thou comments, and you owe the entire room an apology for your incendiary remarks that have disturbed the peace (again). And I think it goes without saying you owe all the Kid Rock fans an apology.
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....I love hearing about younger people "getting It". Be warned though, once you get It, it will be part of your life forever. (Unless you go deaf, God forbid)........edit. Kid Rock. I've heard a lot worse. I even listen to Eminem at times. Sacrilege?....
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I like the way you think.. As for going deaf, they make amplifiers that go to 11 for just such an emergency. Speaking of going deaf.. back to that Other One from Berkeley. Ooops.. wrong thread..
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....that means you were born in 2001ish. That's when my son was born. Now I feel old. It's just a number, it's just a number, it's just a number....I like the number 3. Shit. Every Dave's is a 3 disc release. Coincidence? Where's my tin foil hat....
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My recommendation is almost all releases are great. Don't be fooled that the more expensive releases on the aftermarket markets are significantly better, just more difficult to acquire due to their limited numbers. In fact, some of the general releases are usually better music quality (multitrack). If you ask 100 deadheads for what release to buy you will get 100 answers and they're all right!!! Basically this video clip explains the disease you just acquired:
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....it cannot be established enough. The world needs to know!!!
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Not true. I can quit anytime. We need a new release. Where's Norman? We are due for another summer '85. Or an 88 Greek, sweet sounding boards. Jeffrey? Any spring or fall 71 would do. Just a little '83 Santa Fe Mini Box would carry me through. 68 would put me over the top. David?? Bruce 91 anyone? Seriously, I can quit anytime. I don't even miss it. (that much). Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat because I can't remember where my old cassettes are. When I come to, I realize my cassette deck has not worked in ten years. Perhaps it's just a phase I am going through.
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Fever roll up to a hundred and fiveRoll on up Gonna roll back down One more day I find myself alive Tomorrow And a boxed set in the mail
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I've loved bands before. I've had periods of time where all I listen to is one specific band and they soon fall out of interest. I thought at first the Grateful Dead would be the same, but I was wrong. It grabbed me by the ears and pulled my life down(or rather, up), with it. I was reintroduced(when I was 2 my mom played a documentary on the dead on tv and when it was over apparently I said "I want to hear more of the beautiful music"), to the Dead in 2015 after a visit to my Uncle who was recording the Fare Thee Well shows. After leaving, I immediately started listening. I started with the studio stuff and loved it. At first, I mistakenly thought, from what I had heard, that they sucked at playing live and couldn't play outside the studio. But, as I read more and more online, I saw how much people put the emphasis on the live shows. I wanted to understand, so, I basically "made" myself listen. Entire shows from start to finish. My entire perspective was soon turned upside down. I've been stuck ever since. I may go for periods of time when I don't listen to the Dead at all, and I think "maybe this is it, maybe it's over", but then I find myself listening to 35 minute Dark Stars again and unconsciously tap my feet. I think the Grateful Dead are in my life to stay, and I don't think going deaf will be able to change anything.I only wish there were more deadheads my age, it tends to set me apart from those I'd try to be friends with, and that gets a little hard to overcome at times. I feel it's almost a blessing and a curse.
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ah.. never mind.. Bring on the hard stuff.. an April 69 Ark box? If this ships soon, I guess I can last for a few weeks.. but a two show box will not hold me over for very long. I do get what you are saying Chase.. as much as people complain about this era or those recordings.. there is no band in the land with the amount of music available as we have here. ..and each show is different. And then there are the recordings.. back to 68. It's impossible not to get lost in the archive. We all need more shows.
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Kid Rock has been taking a lot of shit here, and he should. He's no dummy. There's a lot of clever stuff on his records. I've seen him live. He boogies... good band. When they went into the chorus of the immortal Grand Funk tune and sang, "We're an American band... we're coming to your town, we'll pull your panties down, we're an American band!" I thought, shit, this IS rock and roll. It didn't last long for me, though. His first was the best. Since, he's been hanging out with Hank, Jr. and pandering to a real Southern racist Trump voter audience, dumbing everything down, hanging a Confederate flag as a backdrop behind his Airstream trailer at his live shows and just generally being kind of a prick... He's got some cool in him, but so does Ted Nugent. That's it! Bobby Ritchie (that's his name) and the Nuge should get together. They could call it "Ted Rock," or "Kid Nugent" and tour Texas nonstop. In fact, they should both move to Texxas permanently, stay there forever, and shut the fuck up.
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Don't send them to Texas, we are already over our allotted number of assholes here.
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My brother always preferred the studio albums to the live concerts-particularly "Working Mans Dead", "American Beauty", and "Wake of the Flood". He just never saw them in the same light that people who are really into them see them through. I didn't at first. I wouldn't worry too much about not knowing any Deadheads-I have been into them since 1976, and I have only ever known one other person who was what you could call a "Deadhead". Never bothered me-if you find something that speaks to you, Id stay with it...doesn't matter what everyone else is into. Although it would have been nice if my ex had liked them a little more!
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Bickering and passive aggressive political comments. Goodbye.
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....and the Lightning, and the Penguins, and the Senators, and......every team in the Eastern Conference, wait, make that the whole NHL, except the Red Wings. Let’s go Red Wings!!! :) :) :)
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Just got a shipping confirmation, but it was for DaP 24 which arrived a week ago........Lolololol
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Just got the same thing, I was really hoping it was a super early shipping notice for the RFK box... No dice jim rice!
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Same here. Maybe somebody hit the wrong button.
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Love Austin, TX been there several times. Best line ever, from a cabbie, he says, "the only thing wrong with Austin is it's surrounded by Texas!"
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I done filled it in! I guess it has some value to someone, somewhere. They took the trouble to set it up, so I took the trouble to give them some data.
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but I think you really have to count Bruce to make it a dozen. Technically, Dana Morgan Jr (Warlocks only) should count as well for a baker's dozen. Hunter & Barlow should be considered as well. I like to think of it as 15 members. A fine fifteen.
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I hope it's UPS and UPS My Choice lets me know its on the way. Let's get Dr Rhino to do the unboxing. Wow me Rhino. Is there anyone home at Rhino headquarters, like Jim Morrison said "WAKE UP"
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....all this talk of Dave's Damn Picks made me forget there's a couple of '89 shows heading our way. Seeing as how '89 was the year I saw them the most (11?), let's get that banner flying high! Like kayakguy said, "wow me Rhino!"....
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As far as I am aware, I have the same number of holes as most other guys I’m luckily not yet lame (but my back gives me trouble sometimes) I have a lovingly compiled GD collection with some deliberate gaps in the 80s and 90s department I feel I am just too old to start over with this Kid Rock character (whoever he is). But the Grateful Dead changed my life in 1972 and that seems to have worked out for me so far Can I have a pass please.
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Weird.. isn't it. It seems they could have tried a bit more to wow us. I enjoy Dave's seaside distractions, updated listening parties and the listening specials they sometimes do on SiriusXM. I also like the occasional Dr. Rhino's box unveilings and whatever hype on the product, restoration and mastering process they can give. This box and the July 78 box seem to have gotten the oh, whatever.. go team try. I thought the recordings for both this and July 78 were spectacular.. I thought the box layout and concept for July 78 was great and I have no idea what this one will look and feel like.
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Whoops.
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Can't wait, but I agree with Jim - why is this not being promoted as the date approaches? Unwrapping video, Facebook/email promotions....
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Just got the new Dylan Bootleg Series (deluxe edition). The packaging was very nice, the cds were held in firmly but removable without fear of breakage of cd or holder. Both books were nicely bound with very nice covers. Even the box has a nice feel to it. I'm still ripping and labeling all the cuts, but very nice. The intro piece written by Penn Gillette was very nice. Glad I got the box.
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Shipping notice received!
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My fingers are crossed that this is being shipped via UPS and not the usual UPS -> USPS process.
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USPS or UPS? just wondering... while refreshing my inbox
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Since I get my notifications a week after the item arrives, I am hoping for UPS also because with UPS My Choice, I would be notified when the package is a couple of days out.
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