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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Mind-Left-Body
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    For RFK 6/10/73, I believe it would sell 15K in one weekend, either individually or paired with the RFK show from the night before. In this situation there is a hugely popular show from a hugely popular year. If I were Rhino, I would do the pair. I would limit it to 15K and include a small book (like FW 1969), but I would press 20K and immediately put the extra 5K on sale after the initial sellout, but exclude the book and call it the music only edition. That way the urgency is created for the initial 15K, and it goes fast. Then when everyone is peeved they didn't get one, you announce the music only copies that are available. No, that's dishonest, I wouldn't do that.
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    My Take on July 1978
    Some good points made. I think a lot of factors are involved. I think 1978 is not as lauded a year in Dead legend as say, 1977. I think if it had only been a two-show set with the Red Rocks nights, it would have sold out 15K pretty quickly. But for $129 and 5 shows from a year that's often regarded as "shakey" in terms of performance, I believe some folks either opted out, or bought 7/8 only. That is my second thought - the fact that 7/8 was the big cornerstone show of the box, and that it is available individually, must have hurt the box set sales (it's not like the Cornell box set, where there were several extremely popular shows included). Some folks are just nor "completists", and can sleep at night knowing there are available shows on the store shelf. I don't happen to be one of them - I broke out in a cold sweat when I got the news of the box set and didn't have my wallet nearby. Like Jim pointed out, it was available for download for a while. Who knows how many were sold. There are certainly a good deal of regular posters here who indicate they prefer downloads over physical product. Surely they represent a larger number of people who do not post regularly. There was also a lot of discussion when it was announced, that the set lists were not that much different from a good number of other releases, such as May and June 1977. The non-completists who may have considered a 1978 box may have decided against it because of this. This one may be a bigger factor than we think. Imagine if it had been Fall '78, and we had songs like Stagger Lee, Shakedown Street, I Need a Miracle, etc. That would be something new-ish and unique, something marketable. So for my part, (aside from being a completist), there was enough nuance between '77 and '78 to warrant buying July 1978 Complete Recordings; but for some I think, $129 for essentially the same batch of songs as May and June 1977 (as well as a dozen single show releases from Dick's Picks, Dave's Picks, Road Trips, 30 Trips, DL Series), it just wasn't a priority, particularly when Red Rocks 7/8 was available a la carte. Anyway, it will sell out soon enough, I think there are only like 1500 left. Still a winner for Rhino, as I'm sure they sold enough to make money. The rest is trickle-in gravy. And a winner for Rhino is a winner for us :D Have a great weekend everybody. Jellyroll will drive you stone mad.
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    Good point Jeff.. Surely that had an impact on the non-completest among us. It is the cornerstone show, and arguably the best in the box (though currently not my go to show from this set).
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    A couple of friends and I ditched our afternoon classes to drive out to a high school in Glendale to see Buffalo Springfield for free in the auditorium in 1966. Forty-five years later paid $173 to see this reunion show at the Fox Theater in Oakland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dmZe2igiMQ&ab_channel=dakind2
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  • icecrmcnkd
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    1621 remaining, according to David D. It didn’t go on sale in December, probably too soon to cut the price and piss off the rest of us. What did go on sale in December was the 8-27-72 CD/BluRay for $14 less than I paid 3-4 weeks earlier. That was annoying. I had the DVD but decided to buy the BluRay to see if it had a better picture. Nope, how could you improve grainy 1972 film. But it does have 24/192 audio. 78 Box is awesome, especially the non-Red Rocks shows that didn’t previously circulate. It’s not prominently displayed on the main page, but May 77 AME is. Jim has a good point about it disappearing for a few months, then reappearing, but was probably sidelined due to the May 77 hoopla. RFK 73 will sell out 20,000 units quickly. It’s hot, hot, hot. It’s pre-hiatus, which a lot of people want.
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    looks like a vat of baked beans
    love the "JERRY" label
  • stoltzfus
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    if everyone would be more adult about it...
    6/9/73 and 6/10/73 would be a smart release. ABB gets some cash, not just the GD. I don't know what it's like to wrangle the sums of money tenured bands deal with, but if I had a chance to get a seven-figure sum, I would freakin' do it. best of all, us crazies get some more classic, classic, classic music to listen to and enjoy for eternity.
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    6/10/73 would sellout?
    I love 1973 and find it bizarre that theres a 6 month swath of 1973 in the vault that is completely untouched. BUT if the HIGHLY-lauded and mythical Red Rocks box is now almost 2 years old and not sold out, I find it hard to believe this would be an immediate sellout (at the standard 15k units.) Though it would certainly sell better than the 1989 RFK box (ONLY 5,000 left! Hurry! - LOL) Agree the 6/10/73 Dead show is fantastic and would like to see it released, but my recollection of the ABB stage-sharing 3rd set is typical of most guest appearances - one imagines a fantasy pairing where giants stand on each others shoulders for previously unimaginable heights. 1+1 =3!!! But instead its executed with all the grace of a 3-legged race. Everyone's a little tentative trying to figure out whose solo it is, and not step on toes... Sure they execute the songs competently and its interesting to figure out who's playing what, but the musical product has no magical moments that pull me back. It's more curiosity than virtuosity... 1+1=0.8, musically. If I'm missing any TRULY golden moments from this set, please enlighten me. I also have trouble imagining the Allmans would allow an entire disc of Allmans/Dead to be released under the Dead label considering the bad blood that existed between the bands in later years (after Gregg's manager went to jail due to Gregg testifying against him in order to get immunity in a drug case where the manager was holding/sourcing HIS stash, and Jerry PUBLICLY shamed him for it in an interview.) But Dave & Co. found a compromise for the complicated returned Betty's situation, so maybe there's hope here too.
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    if you don't have the 78 box yet, get it
    it is worth it for 7/7/78 and 7/8/78 alone
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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The fun begin. I ordered one without a problem. HAPPY TUESDAY!!!!!!!! PLAY DEAD DEADLAND
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How long will this stay up? I bet less than 30min. Thanks Dave!
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...set list? C'mon Toronto philler!!!
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Still digging the color palate used for the cover art. Also like the detail of how in step each of the dancers are, they don't seem to be twirlers, I picture more of a style like the cowboy character in the GD Movie getting down in the cowboy boots. And they somehow managed to work the scheduled system maintenance around this release time. Bring it on.. (wouldn't hold my breath for filler material, but fingers crossed).
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did they play Binghamton, anyone know? I have a R-to-R of a Binghamton concert, don't know if it's this one or not. Also, yes, a set list would be nice.
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Cool colors, cool background. The pathways in the background, and the fish skeletons, and the rooster forming out of the flowers make me think Roger Dean (and who doesn't love a good old fashioned Yes album cover). Glad people are purchasing without issue. I wonder if it will take longer to sell out at 2 per order (or is it 2 per customer?) I have this vision of eBay people logging in repeatedly to order two at a time until they have 20. But I guess the shipping cost would not make it worth their while at that point. Well in any case I have my trusty subscription.
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They played four shows there over the years:05/02/70- Harpur College - Binghamton, NY (amen,.. Dicks Picks 8) 11/06/77- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 05/09/79- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 04/12/83- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY
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Can we move on from 1977 now? The band toured for 30 years and there are many great years and great shows. Anybody check out Gainesville 1980? Saratoga '83? Landover '88? Dave, let's hit some Brent shows for a change. Thanks for listening.
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So psyched to a have a subscription for the first time this year. This first one is an epic one too. I've been checking out dead.net every day to see if it was out yet. I got the email that it would be released today & I couldn't wait to hear Dave talk about it. Love the artwork too. I am one happy Deadhead!!
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Have the subscription but decided to buy a copy for a friend (he's notoriously late on these sort of things) and ordered with zero issue. Glad to see the site is running like some smooth butter! Artwork is cool IMO, love the colors and the imagery. Currently listening to the 'listening party' for the first time, sound is awesome!
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so instead i'll share my list: "top 50 original grateful dead songs". 01. Terrapin Station 02. Ship Of Fools 03. Loser 04. The Other One 05. Brown Eyed Women 06. Bertha 07. Jack Straw 08. Wharf Rat 09. Weather Report Suite 10. Playing In The Band 11. Mountains Of The Moon 12. Althea 13. Black Throated Wind 14. Estimated Prophet 15. To Lay Me Down 16. Fire On The Mountain 17. Franklin's Tower 18. Deal 19. Sugar Magnolia 20. Dark Star 21. China Cat Sunflower 22. Blow Away 23. Candyman 24. Friend Of The Devil 25. Black Peter 26. Feel Like A Stranger 27. Shakedown Street 28. Stagger Lee 29. Doin' That Rag 30. Brokedown Palace 31. St. Stephen 32. Sugaree 33. High Time 34. Touch Of Grey 35. New Speedway Boogie 36. Box Of Rain 37. Cassidy 38. Eyes Of The World 39. Truckin' 40. Built To Last 41. Mr. Charlie 42. He's Gone 43. Here Comes Sunshine 44. Standing On The Moon 45. Throwing Stones 46. Crazy Fingers 47. Row Jimmy 48. Bird Song 49. Scarlet Begonias 50. The Music Never Stopped -----
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https://archive.org/details/gd1977-11-06.mtx.seamons.92273.sbeok.flac16 They played Binghampton in 1970, 1977, 1979 and 1983 (though there have always been rumors of other shows in the late 60/early 70s that have evaded confirmation). Set List*: 1)Mississippi Half Step, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali Blues-> Me & My Uncle, Friend Of The Devil, Minglewood Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Passenger, Dire Wolf, The Music Never Stopped; 2)Samson & Delilah, Sunrise, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain-> Good Lovin'-> Saint Stephen-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Wharf Rat-> Saint Stephen-> Truckin', E: Johnny B. Goode * Possibly other tunes on the Official Release.
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Dave drops this so casually... did we already know about it?? I’m a subscriber, but I must have missed that announcement — the good news just keeps coming around!
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Took about 40 minutes by my count..
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Having attended Toronto and Binghamton (I could not make it to Colgate :(and owning R to Rs of both shows until recent downsizing, I always LOVED the Toronto show (small venue, great list and great "little versions" of BIG tunes) and felt (at the time) that the band was a little tired in Binghamton (Slow tempos if I recall) And I believe that this was the show where Billy needed "a light" as well as nice (one off?) of Mexicali > Me and My Uncle Having recently been a little "scalped " on being a late purchaser of the Eugene show,I am opting in....looking forward to "attending" this show again
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In 48 minutes.
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The email arrived 10:12 but I was working in the kitchen. Got here 5 minutes ago and they're sold out. Sure glad I subscribed. First year I've done it.
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Let the complaining begin
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What the price on eBay will be.
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Setlist SHARE SETLIST Set I Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo Jack Straw Tennessee Jed Mexicali Blues Me and My Uncle Friend of the Devil Minglewood Blues Dupree's Diamond Blues Passenger Play Video Dire Wolf Play Video The Music Never Stopped Set II Samson and Delilah Sunrise Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Good Lovin' St. Stephen Drums Not Fade Away Wharf Rat St. Stephen Truckin' Encore: Johnny B. Goode
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....based on Dave's seaside chat it seems it will be a good year to follow - including what should be a cool & exciting box set of some kind... Not at all surprised this sold out so quickly - people were warned! Hopefully the copies made it into actual Heads' Hands as opposed to Bot Hands... Sixtus
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....clearly your education is not complete. Your list is missing The Eleven and Turn On Your Love Light, Ripple and others. Yes, I know you said "original" and Love Light was not written by the Dead, but they took it to places it to places in '69 and '70 that none did before or since. Epic. Sadly they stopped playing The Eleven in 1970. Now get on with your studies!
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Just got the e-mail today and it's sold out??
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i've never been a big fan of "ripple". IMO it's a lot like bob dylan's "blowin' in the wind". great poem, lackluster song. i've considered creating another list of the best GD covers. if i added covers to this list "morning dew" would be #1, knocking "terrapin station" down a spot. ----
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Awww maaaan....
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I find it next to impossible to believe they processed that many orders since 10:00am...What the f&ck?! Oh well I have a sbd copy of this show anyways
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Oh no!!! It’s sold out already! :(
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I know...me too! Just got the email and gone. :(
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With the amount of Subscriptions sold, there was probably >600 copies out of the original 18k available for a la cart orders
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I willlllll subscribe please subscribe in December (or November) subscribe A LA CARTE IS DEAD (pun intended and not intended.)
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Maybe it is because they warned us 4 days ago with the email that for the first time told us exactly what day and time this went on sale. Has Dave already hinted at which Albuquerque show is next, '71 or '77?
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I'd suggest the decision must encompass the recent pattern: The next box either represents newly returned tapes, and clearly that means lots of '77 and '78 reels in hand from the couple ID'd as the ABCD Corp in liner notes. But recall as well that Dave is holding the Mtn Grrrl returned tapes, a transaction now a couple years old, which I believe I recall had a previously unknown '70 or '71 concert in its entirety. Or, the next box covers a so-far under-represented era for box treatment or even gaps in DaPs. He has spoken of the wealth of material for fall '72 and that such a box is due at some point. We know there's a bias for a) good tapes and b) what sells, while retaining enough of each year to power DaPs for another decade or more. With a '77 DaP for #25 and a '71 for #26 already announced, and believing that 1969 and 1970 inventory is limited (thus only single-show or, perhaps, double-show releases likely), I'd have to place my bet on Summer '73 or Summer '74. With WoS vocals issues, I'm going with a Summer '73 box. (4) shows, (12) discs. That'd fix a hole in the release continuum and take a break from the most-recently-returned-tapes approach. There you have it. Unassailable logic. I mean, I've never been wrong before...
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I think you're right, the logic is unassailable. It will be 72 73 or 74 for this year's box set, if we're lucky. But I wouldn't complain about a rabbit out of the Hat with 1970, the fall is under-represented, because of the whole Bear jail situation, but you just never know what this return of goods May bear. Incredible that they sold 18000 so quickly. I think the dead and Company touring has really helped Dave's Picks sales. And if you still didn't get a copy, it may be time to put your bong down in tune in to the message boards a little more often.
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davidadavis This was also the last of my '77 shows. I saw 7. All have been released so far except for Springfield 4/23/77. That's another great, unique one that needs to get out there.
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Harper College, that was it! Great show!
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I couldn't disagree more with Dave's comments about '77-'78 Dead. He says they were really taking chances in '78, moreso than in '77. No way. '78 was the beginning of the era predictably formatted shows. This is the beginning of the end of the era where the Dead would routinely take chances. Summer of '76 through Spring of '77 was the peak in terms of unpredictability. During that time, songs moved around, jams moved around, and the format was flexible. There were still lots of long jams. That all started going away in Spring of '78.
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Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
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Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
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Latter half 72 sounds much different than spring. It is probably the one calender year from the 1970s whose set list has changed so much, it's like a different year just about. And the jams evolved enormously in Dark Star, Playing in the Band, China Cat, and The Other One. New songs like Bird Song, Stella, Mississippi Half Step, and so on. Need way more. We've had 2 in like 15 years, maybe more.
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a sweaty sea of Heads! Would be great to add filler from the 5/9/79 (particularly if a SB is in the vault), especially the Truckin' from this show as a comparison. The '79 Broome Truckin' is, I think, one of the most intense of this period, with a cadenza that goes on for ever!
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‘The Last Ones’Winterland October 1974 is screaming to be released. Audio and video.
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Enough 72 already, all shows sound the same. And please no more 77 either, and forget about '71, too many of these released recently. No 80's and 90's, bad sounding tapes and declining Jerry, respectively. 66 & 67 are rough, so none of these two. 68 and 69 have been well covered and set lists are boring. 76 is too slow, 78 is too sloppy, 79 is too inconsistent, 70 has incomplete shows, 75 is non existent, , 74 has bad vocals mix, 73 is too close to 72, which we have too many of anyway.
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Icecreamconekid, I would enjoy that box very much. If I had to choose between that and 1971 Port Chester oh boy. The battle of the multi-tracks. I would definitely like to see a remastering of the winterland stuff. There's something a little bit off about that one with the drums. I think a few people have mentioned that before, no offense to mr. Norman I love man, just would be cool for something more refined. Then I can't decide which one I'd rather have more. I guess since half of the winterland Run came out on the movie soundtrack, I would have to go with Port Chester. Haha cousins, you have me there for a sentence or two! Let's just do it with message boards and that will solve the whole issue
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