• 3,418 replies
    heatherlew
    Default Avatar
    Joined:

    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • daverock
    Joined:
    mono
    Another album that sounds much better in mono is "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" by Pink Floyd-although I have always liked the channel switching at the end of "Interstellar Overdrive" on the stereo version. Both versions are essential-but the mono is the one I play most. I am hoping my copy of Daves will arrive next week some time. The response seems a bit muted, on the whole. Great first set, but nothing spectacular after that, seems to be the theme. We shall see.
  • SkullTrip
    Joined:
    Re: Maybe, just maybe...
    Read this while sipping coffee, and promptly snorted it out of my nose as I laughed.
  • RV3
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    DP #25...and 1977
    First off, DP #25 is a good solid release. The first set is some of the best playing of 1977 for the boyz. It may well have the GOAT Miss 1/2 Step, and Jack Straw, Jed, and Dire Wolf are top notch.....but for this release to be considered so "legendary" like Cornell, 7/8/78, and/or all of May 1977 seems a bit of a stretch. I realize the GD has back the missing BBoards, and these releases were the obvious choices from the returned tapes....but 11/6/77 is good not great- Sorry!The Scarlet is half ass at best....one verse in, Jer realizes he is out of tune, and literally tunes mid song- I just don't care for that. His solo is good, then into Fire transition is ok...but mot May 1977. The show is somewhat typical of what setlist had become towards the end of 1977 especially in the 2nd set....again I like it, and the 1st set really smokes. Bottom line IMHO- I just think even as great a pedestal as 1977 is put on, it time to move on from the repetitive shows from: 1977, 1974, and 1972. Why not give the 1980s a chance at least for the next 6-8 releases...the myth that a lot of the soundboards from the 1980s (early 1980s in particular) don't sound good is just BS. I know this is not the consensus, and don't really care.....but haven't TPTB just about overdone it with 1970-1978...
  • Cousins Of The…
    Joined:
    re: Beatles MFSL
    That box is great, however the first 3 LPs have that hard stereo separation, with no middle: vocals left, instruments right. Still sounds great, but the mono versions of these are the best; I highly recommend the Beatles Mono box set that came out a few years ago, it's the best source.Same thing for the Stones, the mono versions of their LPs up to(and including Satanic Majesties Request) are superior to their stereo counterparts. While we're at it, the mono version of Moby Grape's first LP is also better than the stereo; same for the Dead's first LP, mono version is much punchier than the stereo(it's a shame that the 45 reissue series did not use a mono Golden Road 45...)
  • Dennis
    Joined:
    Off Subject as always....
    quick note - mobile labs 1/2 speed masters sounded great. I received a goodly chunk of stuff from someone here, was a lot of really nice stuff there. Most amazing though was a group called Everyone Orchestra. As my friend commented to me when I forwarded show to him, "where have these guys been hiding". You can check out their wiki page. But if I understand right. This guy who arranges these things must know a lot of people, but he assembles a group of top shelf musicians, they hook up for some "show" somewhere, without any rehearsals, with only meeting that day maybe, they create songs on the spot out of whole cloth, words and all apparently. The words are simple, but the jams can be GREAT. They are on the archive, but here is the link to the show sent to me,,, give a listen. https://archive.org/details/everyoneorchestra2017-03-11.matrix.flac24 Sorry for the interruption of DaP 25 talk,,,, and no mine hasn't gotten here yet, damn!
  • Vguy72
    Joined:
    Maybe, just maybe....
    ....he had to drop the Browns off at the Super Bowl. When you gotta poop, ya gotta poop...
  • mustin321
    Joined:
    Disappearing Jerry
    I'd put my money on it having something to do with drugs...I know there were instances around this time where Jerry would be "missing" from other Scarlet>Fire jams as well. Here is one example from 5/13/77 www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPrY55qiP0
  • gdgray
    Joined:
    Just arrived Tampa
    Finished first set and it’s sounds great. Funny I got number around 17800 for my subscription and 8000 for one I ordered when individual show went on sale. Not really sure why I ordered an additional show. I did the same thing for 2015, ordered two subs. It’s hell to get old. 50 years ago saw first show at Thee Image in North Miami Beach. Looking forward to vol 26. Any year is fine with me.
  • KeithFan2112
    Joined:
    Disappearing Jerry
    I like to think he found himself in the middle of Scarlet Fire not quite good and high enough, and decided to wander offstage for an attitude adjustment.
  • JimInMD
    Joined:
    Disappearing Jerry
    I catch him disappearing at approx. 5:13 into Scarlet and re-appearing almost exactly at 7:13, at a low volume. If you rewind a bit.. something is off during the first jam at about a minute into the song too, he's almost absent in the beginning of the first jam. Perhaps there was something he didn't like with the sound. I wonder if he mucked with the tuning or if the newly refurbished Wolf wasn't playing nice with some of the effects? My guess is he was getting his magic tricks and effects together and prepping for a transition into the land of the Mutron which he seems to have pretty dialed in by the time Fire On The Mountain starts. It doesn't seem like two minutes is enough time to completely disappear or go off the stage, and they were pretty fresh off the set break, so I doubt of he needed to spark up or anything. I doubt if we will ever know for sure. Then again, we could set the dials for 11/6/77...
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

8 years 1 month

"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 10 months
Permalink

The fun begin. I ordered one without a problem. HAPPY TUESDAY!!!!!!!! PLAY DEAD DEADLAND
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

How long will this stay up? I bet less than 30min. Thanks Dave!
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

...set list? C'mon Toronto philler!!!
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

Still digging the color palate used for the cover art. Also like the detail of how in step each of the dancers are, they don't seem to be twirlers, I picture more of a style like the cowboy character in the GD Movie getting down in the cowboy boots. And they somehow managed to work the scheduled system maintenance around this release time. Bring it on.. (wouldn't hold my breath for filler material, but fingers crossed).
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

8 years 6 months
Permalink

did they play Binghamton, anyone know? I have a R-to-R of a Binghamton concert, don't know if it's this one or not. Also, yes, a set list would be nice.
user picture

Member for

10 years 3 months
Permalink

Cool colors, cool background. The pathways in the background, and the fish skeletons, and the rooster forming out of the flowers make me think Roger Dean (and who doesn't love a good old fashioned Yes album cover). Glad people are purchasing without issue. I wonder if it will take longer to sell out at 2 per order (or is it 2 per customer?) I have this vision of eBay people logging in repeatedly to order two at a time until they have 20. But I guess the shipping cost would not make it worth their while at that point. Well in any case I have my trusty subscription.
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

They played four shows there over the years:05/02/70- Harpur College - Binghamton, NY (amen,.. Dicks Picks 8) 11/06/77- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 05/09/79- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 04/12/83- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Can we move on from 1977 now? The band toured for 30 years and there are many great years and great shows. Anybody check out Gainesville 1980? Saratoga '83? Landover '88? Dave, let's hit some Brent shows for a change. Thanks for listening.
user picture

Member for

6 years 11 months
Permalink

So psyched to a have a subscription for the first time this year. This first one is an epic one too. I've been checking out dead.net every day to see if it was out yet. I got the email that it would be released today & I couldn't wait to hear Dave talk about it. Love the artwork too. I am one happy Deadhead!!
user picture

Member for

8 years 6 months
Permalink

Have the subscription but decided to buy a copy for a friend (he's notoriously late on these sort of things) and ordered with zero issue. Glad to see the site is running like some smooth butter! Artwork is cool IMO, love the colors and the imagery. Currently listening to the 'listening party' for the first time, sound is awesome!
user picture

Member for

13 years
Permalink

so instead i'll share my list: "top 50 original grateful dead songs". 01. Terrapin Station 02. Ship Of Fools 03. Loser 04. The Other One 05. Brown Eyed Women 06. Bertha 07. Jack Straw 08. Wharf Rat 09. Weather Report Suite 10. Playing In The Band 11. Mountains Of The Moon 12. Althea 13. Black Throated Wind 14. Estimated Prophet 15. To Lay Me Down 16. Fire On The Mountain 17. Franklin's Tower 18. Deal 19. Sugar Magnolia 20. Dark Star 21. China Cat Sunflower 22. Blow Away 23. Candyman 24. Friend Of The Devil 25. Black Peter 26. Feel Like A Stranger 27. Shakedown Street 28. Stagger Lee 29. Doin' That Rag 30. Brokedown Palace 31. St. Stephen 32. Sugaree 33. High Time 34. Touch Of Grey 35. New Speedway Boogie 36. Box Of Rain 37. Cassidy 38. Eyes Of The World 39. Truckin' 40. Built To Last 41. Mr. Charlie 42. He's Gone 43. Here Comes Sunshine 44. Standing On The Moon 45. Throwing Stones 46. Crazy Fingers 47. Row Jimmy 48. Bird Song 49. Scarlet Begonias 50. The Music Never Stopped -----
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-11-06.mtx.seamons.92273.sbeok.flac16 They played Binghampton in 1970, 1977, 1979 and 1983 (though there have always been rumors of other shows in the late 60/early 70s that have evaded confirmation). Set List*: 1)Mississippi Half Step, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali Blues-> Me & My Uncle, Friend Of The Devil, Minglewood Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Passenger, Dire Wolf, The Music Never Stopped; 2)Samson & Delilah, Sunrise, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain-> Good Lovin'-> Saint Stephen-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Wharf Rat-> Saint Stephen-> Truckin', E: Johnny B. Goode * Possibly other tunes on the Official Release.
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

Dave drops this so casually... did we already know about it?? I’m a subscriber, but I must have missed that announcement — the good news just keeps coming around!
user picture

Member for

8 years 6 months
Permalink

Took about 40 minutes by my count..
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

11 years 9 months
Permalink

Having attended Toronto and Binghamton (I could not make it to Colgate :(and owning R to Rs of both shows until recent downsizing, I always LOVED the Toronto show (small venue, great list and great "little versions" of BIG tunes) and felt (at the time) that the band was a little tired in Binghamton (Slow tempos if I recall) And I believe that this was the show where Billy needed "a light" as well as nice (one off?) of Mexicali > Me and My Uncle Having recently been a little "scalped " on being a late purchaser of the Eugene show,I am opting in....looking forward to "attending" this show again
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 10 months
Permalink

In 48 minutes.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

The email arrived 10:12 but I was working in the kitchen. Got here 5 minutes ago and they're sold out. Sure glad I subscribed. First year I've done it.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

Let the complaining begin
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

What the price on eBay will be.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

Setlist SHARE SETLIST Set I Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo Jack Straw Tennessee Jed Mexicali Blues Me and My Uncle Friend of the Devil Minglewood Blues Dupree's Diamond Blues Passenger Play Video Dire Wolf Play Video The Music Never Stopped Set II Samson and Delilah Sunrise Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Good Lovin' St. Stephen Drums Not Fade Away Wharf Rat St. Stephen Truckin' Encore: Johnny B. Goode
user picture

Member for

10 years
Permalink

....based on Dave's seaside chat it seems it will be a good year to follow - including what should be a cool & exciting box set of some kind... Not at all surprised this sold out so quickly - people were warned! Hopefully the copies made it into actual Heads' Hands as opposed to Bot Hands... Sixtus
user picture

Member for

7 years
Permalink

....clearly your education is not complete. Your list is missing The Eleven and Turn On Your Love Light, Ripple and others. Yes, I know you said "original" and Love Light was not written by the Dead, but they took it to places it to places in '69 and '70 that none did before or since. Epic. Sadly they stopped playing The Eleven in 1970. Now get on with your studies!
user picture

Member for

11 years 3 months
Permalink

Just got the e-mail today and it's sold out??
user picture

Member for

13 years
Permalink

i've never been a big fan of "ripple". IMO it's a lot like bob dylan's "blowin' in the wind". great poem, lackluster song. i've considered creating another list of the best GD covers. if i added covers to this list "morning dew" would be #1, knocking "terrapin station" down a spot. ----
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

14 years
Permalink

Awww maaaan....
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

14 years
Permalink

I find it next to impossible to believe they processed that many orders since 10:00am...What the f&ck?! Oh well I have a sbd copy of this show anyways
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

9 years 9 months
Permalink

Oh no!!! It’s sold out already! :(
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

9 years 9 months
Permalink

I know...me too! Just got the email and gone. :(
user picture

Member for

8 years 6 months
Permalink

With the amount of Subscriptions sold, there was probably >600 copies out of the original 18k available for a la cart orders
user picture

Member for

14 years 10 months
Permalink

I willlllll subscribe please subscribe in December (or November) subscribe A LA CARTE IS DEAD (pun intended and not intended.)
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

Maybe it is because they warned us 4 days ago with the email that for the first time told us exactly what day and time this went on sale. Has Dave already hinted at which Albuquerque show is next, '71 or '77?
user picture

Member for

10 years 8 months
Permalink

I'd suggest the decision must encompass the recent pattern: The next box either represents newly returned tapes, and clearly that means lots of '77 and '78 reels in hand from the couple ID'd as the ABCD Corp in liner notes. But recall as well that Dave is holding the Mtn Grrrl returned tapes, a transaction now a couple years old, which I believe I recall had a previously unknown '70 or '71 concert in its entirety. Or, the next box covers a so-far under-represented era for box treatment or even gaps in DaPs. He has spoken of the wealth of material for fall '72 and that such a box is due at some point. We know there's a bias for a) good tapes and b) what sells, while retaining enough of each year to power DaPs for another decade or more. With a '77 DaP for #25 and a '71 for #26 already announced, and believing that 1969 and 1970 inventory is limited (thus only single-show or, perhaps, double-show releases likely), I'd have to place my bet on Summer '73 or Summer '74. With WoS vocals issues, I'm going with a Summer '73 box. (4) shows, (12) discs. That'd fix a hole in the release continuum and take a break from the most-recently-returned-tapes approach. There you have it. Unassailable logic. I mean, I've never been wrong before...
user picture

Member for

9 years 9 months
Permalink

I think you're right, the logic is unassailable. It will be 72 73 or 74 for this year's box set, if we're lucky. But I wouldn't complain about a rabbit out of the Hat with 1970, the fall is under-represented, because of the whole Bear jail situation, but you just never know what this return of goods May bear. Incredible that they sold 18000 so quickly. I think the dead and Company touring has really helped Dave's Picks sales. And if you still didn't get a copy, it may be time to put your bong down in tune in to the message boards a little more often.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

davidadavis This was also the last of my '77 shows. I saw 7. All have been released so far except for Springfield 4/23/77. That's another great, unique one that needs to get out there.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

8 years 6 months
Permalink

Harper College, that was it! Great show!
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

I couldn't disagree more with Dave's comments about '77-'78 Dead. He says they were really taking chances in '78, moreso than in '77. No way. '78 was the beginning of the era predictably formatted shows. This is the beginning of the end of the era where the Dead would routinely take chances. Summer of '76 through Spring of '77 was the peak in terms of unpredictability. During that time, songs moved around, jams moved around, and the format was flexible. There were still lots of long jams. That all started going away in Spring of '78.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
user picture

Member for

9 years 9 months
Permalink

Latter half 72 sounds much different than spring. It is probably the one calender year from the 1970s whose set list has changed so much, it's like a different year just about. And the jams evolved enormously in Dark Star, Playing in the Band, China Cat, and The Other One. New songs like Bird Song, Stella, Mississippi Half Step, and so on. Need way more. We've had 2 in like 15 years, maybe more.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 1 month
Permalink

a sweaty sea of Heads! Would be great to add filler from the 5/9/79 (particularly if a SB is in the vault), especially the Truckin' from this show as a comparison. The '79 Broome Truckin' is, I think, one of the most intense of this period, with a cadenza that goes on for ever!
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

‘The Last Ones’Winterland October 1974 is screaming to be released. Audio and video.
user picture

Member for

15 years 2 months
Permalink

Enough 72 already, all shows sound the same. And please no more 77 either, and forget about '71, too many of these released recently. No 80's and 90's, bad sounding tapes and declining Jerry, respectively. 66 & 67 are rough, so none of these two. 68 and 69 have been well covered and set lists are boring. 76 is too slow, 78 is too sloppy, 79 is too inconsistent, 70 has incomplete shows, 75 is non existent, , 74 has bad vocals mix, 73 is too close to 72, which we have too many of anyway.
user picture

Member for

9 years 9 months
Permalink

Icecreamconekid, I would enjoy that box very much. If I had to choose between that and 1971 Port Chester oh boy. The battle of the multi-tracks. I would definitely like to see a remastering of the winterland stuff. There's something a little bit off about that one with the drums. I think a few people have mentioned that before, no offense to mr. Norman I love man, just would be cool for something more refined. Then I can't decide which one I'd rather have more. I guess since half of the winterland Run came out on the movie soundtrack, I would have to go with Port Chester. Haha cousins, you have me there for a sentence or two! Let's just do it with message boards and that will solve the whole issue
product sku
081227931742