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    Since the original topic now has hundreds of introductions and is getting a bit hard to navigate, this seems as good a time as any to launch a new one. The original is here, should you wish to catch up on the who's who since this opened up in May. If you haven't introduced yourself yet, please do! And if you already have, but have something new to tell us about you and your life, speak up! (A bit of housekeeping business so we don't have to repost everything we posted before--izzie and I are the moderators here, and for our more extensive intros see the original topic.) Thanks and welcome!

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  • noonie
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    welcome everybody
    its so nice to see your happy faces....take a look around at the different forums and feel free to post your opinion on all subject matter...well see you around
  • onlythreeshows
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    Hello all
    Finally decided to sign up here, as my name says I only saw the GD three times, first in 6/27/85 at Saratoga Springs, via my lovely gf, tripping and camping, wonderful. Then Buffalo 7/86 and finally Foxboro 7/89--still remember the FOTD, Dear Mr. Fantasy, and Quinn--very magical. Had plenty of other chances (my bro went to like 200 shows from 80-95) but I was trying to define myself in my own way. Didn't really "get" the dead until around 2002, now love them and write to them constantly (I mean I'm a writer, and use them for inspiration, not that I write them letters constantly, which would be weird :) Anyway, listening to the 4/23/77 matrix on archive and had to sign up and say hello. So, hello! --- http://timhallbooks.com
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    Hello everyone!
    I've been a member for over 2 years but don't think I ever officially introduced myself here! I want to send a shout out to midian. I am 30 years older than you and have seen some shows but I used to feel a little bit out of step because I discovered the Dead so late relative to my age. Let me assure you that there is always room for those who appreciate the music regardless of when you discover it! I was introduced to the Dead in 1987 by a very dear friend. Went to my first and second shows on successive nights in Hampton, VA in March of 1988. I saw a total of 8 shows, 5 at Hampton, 1 at the Capitol Center in Landover, MD, and 2 at RFK in DC. I never got to really tour just caught shows relatively near home when I could. I really became hooked when my friend played a recording of the Eyes of the World from 9-3-77. I was completely swept away! I've been on the bus ever since! My experience of the Dead has always been a family event for me. My then 8 year old son, Paul, was with me at my first show in Hampton and he's grown up on the bus. This spring he and I got to take his 12 year old brother, Joshua, to see the Dead in Charlottesville. It was great to keep the tradition going! Joshua has autism and music has had a wonderful impact on him. He falls asleep many nights listening to a live show on the Grateful Dead Channel! I live in Shenandoah, VA. I have 2 adult children, a son and a daughter. They have both been to Dead shows and it has had a positive effect on them. My daughter presented me with my first grandson in March. Can't wait to introduce him to the music. I have 2 children from my second marriage, Joshua, whom you've already met and Rachel age 9. Rachel has Down Syndrome (our life at home is both challenging and rewarding!) She has not had any live exposure, but thinks Bob Weir is the coolest guy on the planet (like she's the first female to have that reaction)! She seems to think the band is billed as "Bob Weir and the Grateful Dead"! She loves the music and that's way cool! The reason for my online handle is that I attended VA Tech and both of my older kids are Tech grads, so VA Tech is a central part of our family life as well. I work in a residential facility for adults with developmental disabilities, the same type of disabilities as my younger children have, although I don't think disabilities is an accurate description of these awesome individuals. These folks see the world in their own unique ways and have much to teach the rest of us. Glad to be a part of the community. Love all the input on various topics in this forum. Peace to you all!
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    welcome....
    to the new comers there is allways room on the bus.....
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    to BSG (ms. stuman),,, how does your garden grow? and also to midian, you started at a good place to start, the beginning! i can just feel the anticipation building for terrapin : )so glad your here and anyone else i might have missed! peacenlove4all
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    hi Midian
    hey, we all started somewhere, and you're very welcome here.
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    Hey Midian and Mrs. Stuman!
    Welcome to our family! No worries Midian, we're all about quality here, NOT quantity! Seems that you have all that is necessary to hang with us here-interest in the music and a kind heart. The common thread is that we all like the music, but we talk about everything under the sun. Like Stuman said so well, anything you wanna know? Just ask. BSGardens, I am envious of your job. It sounds wonderful :) ********************************** Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
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    Welcome MidianGTX
    Sounds like you have some catching up tp do . Hey no worries your in the right place . Poke around the site you`ll learn quite a bit about the Dead and their history . For more music check out the vineyard , there is more music in the vineyard then you`ll know what to do with at first ! Just copy the tunes and send them to the next person, my collection has grown exponentioally !! So welcome aboard kick back and enjoy the ride , it`s never too late !! if you have any questions just feel free to ask someone . " The wheel is turnin and you can`t slow down can`t let go and you can`t hold on everytime that wheel goes round your bound to cover just a little more ground "
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    Hey hey
    Another new one here. I was slightly hesitant about signing up at first because I've only gotten into the Dead fairly recently and wasn't too sure what the general age group would be. I just turned 23 so... fairly sure I'm down the young end. I happen to be one of the unfortunate ones, born too late to catch all of my favourite bands in their prime, but then I have quite a varied taste in music so it's not as if I have no shows to go to. No doubt I like a ton of stuff most of you guys and gals wouldn't even spit on but hey, I'm not here to talk about them =) Anyway, I feel a little out of my depth here having never seen a Dead show (and feeling rather depressed about it already) so maybe I haven't quite found "that feeling" a lot of other people have. Maybe I never will, but if it's possible to get there through home listening alone then I'll make it a personal mission to reach it. I've known about the Grateful Dead for years, but I've never known anyone that was into them, and I'd never heard a song, so they remained nothing more than a name until about a month ago (yep, that recent... I suck) when I played 'Alabama Getaway' on the PS3 game 'Rock Band 2'. See, computer games can be useful! It's easily one of the best songs on the game, and led me to download the other GD track packs giving me 13 songs in total. More than enough to convince me I love these guys. Strangely, this wouldn't usually be my kind of music at all, I've never been interested in any country, bluegrass, folk, blues etc... so for this band to have such an impact on me really shows how unique they are. So! (damn this is long) I've been working my way through the albums. I decided to start with Aoxomoxoa and go from there, currently I'm only up to Skull & Roses but what I've heard so far can only be described as perfect, and I can't wait to see what comes next! When I fall in love with a bands music I tend to read as much as I can about their history because the people behind the tunes are always just as fascinating. It's an exciting adventure I'm heading out on, and one I'm not sure I'll ever come home from! Peace people!
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    hey now Mrs. Stuman!
    welcome to our happy home! Can't wait to hear from you in the garden topic!
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Since the original topic now has hundreds of introductions and is getting a bit hard to navigate, this seems as good a time as any to launch a new one. The original is here, should you wish to catch up on the who's who since this opened up in May. If you haven't introduced yourself yet, please do! And if you already have, but have something new to tell us about you and your life, speak up! (A bit of housekeeping business so we don't have to repost everything we posted before--izzie and I are the moderators here, and for our more extensive intros see the original topic.) Thanks and welcome!
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This is the place to be and The Dead is the best music to be listening to, I know you will enjoy all the music and good vibes coming from here.
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So after years and years of being a deadhead I was turned on to this site by by sweetie Moye.(phat moye?) Love you baby! I've been listening to Jerry and the boys for as long as I can remember and can't imagine life without music. It's what shapes me, moves me, and inspires me. One Love!!!!
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how`s it goin`,i`m Chris.I`ve been listening to The Boys since about `89.Didn`t get to my 1st show until `93@R.F.K,but saw 28 in all.I can`t imagine how my life would be if i had never taken that trip to see Jerry.His music and songs mean the world to me.I treasure the moments and times that i was able to spend with the friends,family and most of all,the Band during the 2 and half years i spent following them from venue to venue.My last show was also Jerry`s last dance,7/9/95@Soldier Field.How could we have known that,that was going to be the last time that we would shake our bones to Jerry and the boys.I would absolutly give anything to see the fatman play just one more song!....forever in our hearts,Jerry.
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Long-time lurker, finally decided to sign up. First show in '79, last one with Jerry in '95... still go to Further, Dead, or anything else one or more of the boys are willing to put together, though I stay locally (PA-NY) these days. Looking forward to the summer shows, especially the Mann center in Philly. Last time I was there was for JGB in '85... outstanding show.
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"Bound to cover just a little more ground".Been traveling and living all over the world, currently working overseas. Miss trading maxell bootlegs (still have them all), The Golden Road, Dupree's Diamond News, going to shows. Only been to 30-40 shows - kinda lame but haven't been in the US a lot. One of the coolest things I've done was when shipped my truck from Hawaii, I kept my Hawaiian plates on it till they expired. Tripped people out on tour when they checked out plates in the parking lot! (Remember doing that?)
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Here after becoming a fan of Grateful Dead on Facebook, I really enjoy the site and looking forward to talking with other Dead fans about life & music.
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hi hi,I'm new to the site, but not the GD. I've been listening to the dead for about 5 years, unfortunately I never got the privilege of seeing GD with Jerry, but I've seen Phil & friends, the Other Ones, and the Dead a handful of times, and I just bought Furthur tickets for Philly! I stumbled onto the forums the other day, and after discovering the extensive online community, ya couldn't keep me away. Anyway, a little about me: 20 years old, I hail in Ohio. I spin dubstep, tech, breaks, and electro, love to read and write, travel, dance, and I won't let anything stand between myself and a Dead show. That all being said, I'm glad to be here, looking forward to chatting with anyone. I can be contacted at: utilitron000@gmail.com or utilitron000 on aim or yahoo. peace outside, Cosmic Charlie
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I am new to dead.net ... great fan here; my uncle introduced me to real rock n roll, and The Grateful Dead was the very first band he got me listening to ... I work at the Shoreline, and last year got to my "very first" Dead show ... and OMG ... so much more than a concert. For one, it was the Dead back home at their old stomping grounds, and before then I had only heard of the legendary shows there; now, after experiencing one firsthand, I finally know "why" they were so legendary. As soon as the lights dimmed and the first notes sounded, smoke was in the air, along with free love everywhere and old & young dudes in tie dyed outfits dancing in the aisles. At one point, halfway through the MASSIVE set, a drunk very very attractive girl even stopped in front of me and started randomly giving me kisses and hugs. :) I was stationed in front of the control board on the lower concourse ... blue walker ... shoulder-length hair ... if any of you remember. ;) It was so beautiful, though; after you go to like Dead and Phish shows, and then attend concerts by most other bands, it's the hippie crowds who turn out to be the nicest bunch ... and you wonder ... "why can't the entire world have this mentality?" It's all about peace and free love. Anyway, just wanted to say hello ... I'm also probably younger than the majority of fans registered on this site. :)
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you'd be surprised. There are a lot of young folks here who have come along since Jerry passed. More every day, seems like. Anyway, glad you made it here!
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First time I heard the Dead - Dark Star on John Peel's Festive Fifty, a schoolboy, many,many years ago. I'd never heard music I'd liked before that I couldn't figure out; at once beautiful, scary and comforting.Any other Deadheads breathing in Glasgow?
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head over to Deadheads of Europe. I believe we have several folks in Scotland, though I'm not sure what cities.
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I just got here. hello, izzie and marye and all I came for the store and saw the forum and got in to get info. It's been way too long for me since a show. Feel a little homesick about it.
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welcome and make yourself at home!
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High all. I read this forum awhile ago. but just signed on. I caught my last dead show in high gate vt. I did go to many over the yrs. most where in Amherst Mass. I still hit festivals around. My favorite now and has been strange folk music fest in Greenfield mass. Its a must go to. Most ppl I've seen there are around 4000. A real good crowd to spend memorial day week with. I always feel like I've gone back to the days of the dead. Never had a bad time. only good memories.
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Just thought I'd tell everyone a little about myself, before I start posting! To start off I'm 23, I live in northeastern, PA. I just started getting into the dead over the past year. I grew up listening to my parents tapes of CCR, The Eagles, Pink Floyd, Bob Dyan, and just about everything else from the good ol' days. I never really listened to the Dead until later on, although I always knew and liked a few songs like Casey Jones, Touch of Grey etc that I heard on the radio. Unfortunately later on in my teenage years I would give up this stuff and try to "fit in" listening to rap and a bunch of other nonsense. Fast-forward a few years, after I got out of the military; I started hanging out with a freind of mine from high school who introduced me to the psychedelic experince, and opened my tastes up to a lot of good stuff from the 60s and 70s, which I never really listened to before, including the Dead. I'm still a newbie when it comes to the Dead, enjoying every new song I hear on the Sirius Grateful Dead channel...my girlfriend has a bit of a hard time getting me to shut the tv off now when its time to go to work. Well I'll cut this short now before I end up with a novel here!
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and love hearing your stories.
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I like this idea. I'm Sati and have a really dry sense of humor! love to laugh and getothers alaughin.. dancing, whatever...Have fun wherever i go! Haven't thought about how to post a pic yet but just want to be in the good vibes and feel the spirit
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Finally took the time to register after years of being a fan of the site. First show 1972, I paid $4.50 for that ticket! Anyway still following Furthur, and the good vibes are as real as back in the old days. I keep up with DSO, their Brooklyn show last week was unbelievable. I'll be at MCU and Philly, and thinking about the Vibes in B'port. I hear Bears Picnic is a good time and may check it out. Well hope to share some good tunes with all you like minded people out there. Keep an eye out for my Saintsteven banner at the festivals.Peace
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folks are pretty nice here, honest.

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myself in a few paragraphs? umm ok totally new to the scene, this year's All Good was my first fest, and I've been hooked since... although I've been rather neglectful of it lately, I like to exercise and knock out some yoga - - music? a ton, most of the time, it's what fits my internal atmosphere at the time.... i dunno, what else?
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Who am I... (feels like a middle school theme assignment). For starters, I'm Dave. I'm 40+, lived in Indiana my whole life, apart from a summer in Thailand. Happily married for 15 years and counting. 2 kids, 1 dog. I am a sort of learning junkie. I got my undergraduate in Religious Studies/Anthropology. However, my first job out of college was the day shift at a pizza shop for min wage. I worked with a poly sci grad, a history grad, and an English lit grad. I decided that I'd better find something more lucrative to do for a living and made the (ironically somewhat fateful) decision to go back to school for computer science. Ended up with a masters in that. In terms of my experience with the Dead, thru much of the 80's (my teen years), I was a punk rocker, and, as part of that tribe, we were not supposed to like the deadhead tribe. I didn't even look at them until the mid 90's. I tried going to my first Dead show at Deer Ck in 95. However, since I didn't have a ticket and couldn't score one, I gave up and went home (and missed the whole mess that went down that night!). It's really too bad because the laid back kindness of the deadheads really is a better fit for my personality than the angry angst ridden violence of the punks. But paths are paths and I took mine. Since 95, I've seen "the Dead" a few times, DSO many times, and whatever else I can that should happen to find its way through Indy. Being in IT takes up a lot of time, but in whatever free time I do have, I am an avid soccer player and coach (and ref). I also enjoy making my own beer; truly a labor of love. I have a small garden that tends to grow a bit more each year. I try to collect bootleg shows. And, we occasionally go camping/hiking/fishing/etc. The last year has seen a lot of changes in my life, mostly involving the untimely death of my father and how that has rippled into my life and plans. Definitely ended all hopes of ever getting out of Indiana. I have been looking around online for a group of similiar minded people with whom I might connect with. I think every person needs a tribe and I'm still in many ways looking for mine. Anyway, I guess that's me, in a nutshell. Kind of rambling so probably a c+/b- theme, as it were. -Dave
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You've come to the right place to find your "tribe" and a whole bunch of Love. Look around @ the Taper's Section and David Gan's Deadhour archive each week for some great music. A great place to start is checking the Community Board each day for hot topics as well. You can also check out the chatroom to talk and chat with all kinds of kind folk. As for music...here's a fine little show to start with (just click the link) Grateful Dead at the Old Renaissance Fair 1972 Kind folks, good people, and one heck of a FAMILY! Welcome~ ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Hello all! Doug here. Was only able to catch the Dead once....May 6th, 1981 at Nassau Coliseum in NY, but it was an experience that will last a lifetime. Went to the Furthur show with my 20 year old daughter this past April at Radio City and we will be seeing them again next week at the Nokia Theater in Times Square. Happy to be among you! Favorite album: Blues for Allah.
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nice to have you here with us.
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A salty fool I am, would like to travel independently and organize festivals, thats my DREAM. I also like to DJ and make Music.Peace Love Unity Respect
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Thank you all, happy to be here, see you all on tour
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I caught up with the dead at antaris festival this year, and have been dead for some time now. Didnt expect them to be there but nice.Would like to travel more
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I love to travel, I lived in Kenya for some time, and in the Blue Mountains. I like to trave and trip all over the world. I thought the hippie market in Anjuna was great too, I bought a tap their once. I used to write reviews about psytrance music for free :) You can find me on Isratrance as Kazuku. That music is also psychedlic sometimes ;)Now I am a Deadhead and would like to go off into the sun at some stage. Living in Germany is boring, I need to catch up with the tour more. I love to write. I am 32 years old and love to hang out in the Sun and travel in the East. I lived in China for some time, which was intersting. I like snakes and ladders,other board games. Would like to travel to Nassau one day. Just got a new CD today.. Perfect Stranger.
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There is a forum on this site you might be interested in. It's called Religion, Spirituality and Deadheads. Its gone dormant of late, not a lot of recent posts but you might find the posts interesting and might want to add your own input. I came close to becoming an Episcopal priest earlier in my life and am active in a local church. I think you'll find there are many Christian Deadheads (as well as Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, pagan and just about everything else). Welcome aboard, Brother.
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bye bye, Nardy...
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They kind of help to introduce myself in good loopz Sam was still dazzled as he lay drenched in sweat on the king size bed in room 301 of the "Garden Hotel" in Changchun, north-Eastern China. He rolled out of bed and walked over to the bathroom. CNN was still on, something about the Natelie Holloway case. Sam splashed water over his face, chest and under his arms. Everything in this god forsakken city was polluted, the water coming out of the poorly engineered water system was perpetually rusty brown on colour and when Sam looked out of his window the industrial city seemed to glow in an apocalyptic Orange shimmer, nuclear fallout and chemical wasteland combined. On top of this there were the mongolian sandstorms that would sweep in from the west, combining with and bonding with the industrial filth to cover the land in a thick blanket of dust. Not the most hospitable place or situation same had ever gotten himself into - these were thoughts that would be with Sam almost every time he woke up, discontent, that gnawing feeling of jealousy and underachievement slowly eating away at his heart. He was going to be 30 in a few months, and had never felt so drained. Ann, the young Scottish intern in the front office department had taken an emergency holiday, burnout syndrome she argued. How the fuck could that bitch know anything about burnout. Sam spat on the floor and carelessly wiped it with the sole of his foot, disgusting, but that is exactly what this place was doing to him. Sucking him dry. This hotel was a living, breathing monster, feeding on the largely ignorant clientele. All business customers of course, there were very few sensible reasons to come to this place for leisure. The monsters heart was the brothel bar on the second floor. Everyone would end up here sooner or later, a failsafe foreigner trap. The owners had made a fortune with this fool proof conspiracy, damn clever business people these Chinese. Once a new foreign guest would come through the front door those revolving doors would spin around once and the trap snapped shut. The whore bar was the center of the web, and a lazy fat spider she was. Laying there, not needing to move. The prey would come to her sooner or later, she had been feeding here for many years and had always been proven right in her arrogant righteousness. Sometimes the flies would resist for a while, but this resistance never lasted long. The European guests were so easy to lure, and mostly turned out to be manipulated by the easiest means being ignorant of the tricksters arts. Although Sam had been here longer than the most, he had also been through the same process. Now he was arrogant as he watched all the news guests fall for the same sweet talking and mind games- he had seen it all, fairy tales and horror stories biting themselves in the tail, like a 2 headed snake cannibalising itself with pig-like greed.
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Then the time machine went a little bit faster, then slower again, only to finally realise that it didnt matter. These illusions were a thing of yesterday and yesteryear. Just like cruelty to animals. This is not to say that no animal shall evr be eaten, but all beings of the universe should understand what this energy is and what it represents on symbolic levels. So Jesus, the Hoker, the Poker player and the smoker, Albert Hofman and the spiral eyed lords of the underworld were at the eternal carnival, all wearing each other masks, passing them to the right and sometimes to the left, dancing to patterns of controlled chaos, flowing seamlessly into this dimensions. That doesnt mean we have to listen to them all the time. Once in a while we should do, like balancing on a tight rope. The kitchen shall not be cleaned untill the last speck is gone, but untill the consciuosness of the cleaner feels the balance is maintained. Boom boom and loopiness and peace to the family :) All imaginary and mind created diseases are gone, never to plague those with love and awareness in the hearts. The sun shall not burn the crops or the skin, it shall be a sun of mercy and compassion, giving energy to the king, the land and the people. The moon shall be a soothing influence on man kind and all inhabitans of the world and multiverse. It shall impart knowledge to those who are seeking, and sustain the cycles of growing knowledge that sustain this world. Life is, and will always be about play. A game with no rules, but a game where the participants determine their own limits, a balance between good spirited fight, fairplay, but also some deceit from those who are wise and like to play on the borders between night and day, like a waiter balancing a tray, dodging the shades of grey, the frayed string will always hold, just a trick of the jokers mind, testing your faith.
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You are twisted, dude! Beware, somebody has you in their crosshairs (with only the best intentions, I'm sure).
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Haven't had much experience with spammers so far. I attributed the broken English to English probably being a second language (which it probably is!) Now I realize the other time I saw something similar was my only previous encounter with a spammer. Thanks to lamagonzo for educating me. I'll get it one of these days, maybe?!
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Can I introduce myself here? or is there another thread I should be on? I have a few questions...
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make yourself at home!
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Oh My, I just looked at my account and I've been crawlin' 'round here nigh on a year....This humble ol' turtle sez, thanks for the memories of then, now and yet be....
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Ive bin around here for a while and I have a bit of time on my hands so I thought I would introduce myself. I am a canadian living in Sudbury, Ontario. I have a fantastic wife named Rebecca and two boys named Hunter (5yrs) and Kurtis (3yrs). We also have two dogs named Miles (terri-poo), and Otis (Labra-doodle). Our house is always full and very chaotic. To relieve the stress of day to day life I try to go fishing as much as I can. Sudbury provides me with lots of wide open spaces and lakes to take in Mother Nature. I saw my first dead show in Hammertown on 3/20/90. I was 17 at the time. Young and impressionable I was. I have to admit I ate up the scene for a couple of years before the music really soaked in. My adult life really started for me in 03 when I married my longtime girlfriend I met seven years earlier. She never was and never will be a deadhead. But I love her with the soul of a thousand astronauts. One of my kids are getting in to trouble. I gotta go.poncho
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its my first day here wanted to say hello to all. i live in reno/tahoe area any buddy up for meeting for a drink and talking about anything? have a grateful day chris I'll try anything once and the things i like i'll try twice
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Good to hear all you heads are out there and keep showing up on this site. Bill... Glad you're thriving in Sudbury. One of my dear friends, Janice's son, Dylan Wing, is just starting at Laurentian and is really happy about it. He'll be coming back to Peterborough to row in the Head of the Trent in a month. Coincidentally, I was just reading about how Phish's Mike Gordon is from Sudbury, Massachusetts. Anyway, I love your blueberries and I hope you and your family are doing great! Kirsten
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Hi, I've just had my website shut down for daring to publish a negative review of "Grateful Dead: At The Hollywood Festival North West England 1970" DVD. The ironic thing is, the review wasn't even written by me. My website uses Amazon API and downloads reviews from Amazon.com. The offending review can still be read on the Amazon website. I received an e-mail from grayzone.com claiming to act on behalf of Rhino Entertainment, who are Grateful Dead's marketing company. They said that the review was infringing copyright. I wrote back to them, saying that this was an impartial review of their product and it did not contain any of their IP. Next thing I knew, they had contacted my ISP and got them to shut down all my websites. (ALL my websites, not just the one containing the review). Do the band know that these heavy-handed corporate actions are being taken in their name?
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is not a Rhino release (and judging by its reviews on Amazon is pretty much unwatchable), something about this saga does not add up. I've forwarded your post to the Rhino folks to see what's up.
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that competent spammers are merely annoying, while incompetent ones are downright amusing? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.