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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    I read an interview with Jerry talking about how Pete T was telling Jerry how depressed he was with having to play the same show and setlist night after night. Yet Pete did not know how to stop doing that. I guess, obviously, that is what the fans wanted so The Who delivered it over and over. The Who watching The Dead at those joint Day on The Green shows showed them outside the box musical-thinking. How do they do that? And of course The Who always delivered The Power while The Dead delivered The Magic with a few Train Wrecks here and there. What's your pleasure? Hey SimonRob I know Jerry thought that The Doors music sounded too thin and brittle live. He was right, but, I do love their Absolutely Live disc. Were The Doors too 'thin' sounding live for you? Perhaps kind of a 'dinky' sound rather like some here hear 'dinky' 'plinky' keys from Brent here and there? Jerry mentioned that The Doors did not impress initially and Jim seemed like a Mick Jagger clone.Jerry did, however, likeThe Doors ir later stuff. I guess Jerry liked Morrison Hotel and LA Woman with their blues influence. Come to think of it: The song LA Woman has a guitar tone similar sounding to what what Jerry liked and played? No? Or am I tripping? I love The Doors but I think that if I were to have seen them live then what Jerry described regarding their sound being to thin would have been confirmed. And if Uncle JimBo had been too drunk then it may have been a disaster and a waste of time. The Doors seemed to be self-aware of this problem. Jim thought that their music does not work in day light. Likewise, after LA Woman they were going to have Elvis bass player Jerry Sheff join them on tour but without dropping Manzarek's bass-line keys which was a very unique part of their sound. I do not know if they were also going to add a second rhythm guitarist but that would have fattened their sound considerably. The what ifs of music history! Just one more thing: The Who's Sparks song sequence and playing was 'just exactly perfect.' Love it!
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    I read an interview with Jerry talking about how Pete T was telling Jerry how depressed he was with having to play the same show and setlist night after night. Yet Pete did not know how to stop doing that. I guess, obviously, that is what the fans wanted so The Who delivered it over and over. The Who watching The Dead at those joint Day on The Green shows showed them outside the box musical-thinking. How do they do that? And of course The Who always delivered The Power while The Dead delivered The Magic with a few Train Wrecks here and there. What's your pleasure? Hey SimonRob I know Jerry thought that The Doors music sounded too thin and brittle live. He was right, but, I do love their Absolutely Live disc. Were The Doors too 'thin' sounding live for you? Perhaps kind of a 'dinky' sound rather like some here hear 'dinky' 'plinky' keys from Brent here and there? Jerry mentioned that The Doors did not impress initially and Jim seemed like a Mick Jagger clone.Jerry did, however, likeThe Doors ir later stuff. I guess Jerry liked Morrison Hotel and LA Woman with their blues influence. Come to think of it: The song LA Woman has a guitar tone similar sounding to what what Jerry liked and played? No? Or am I tripping? I love The Doors but I think that if I were to have seen them live then what Jerry described regarding their sound being to thin would have been confirmed. And if Uncle JimBo had been too drunk then it may have been a disaster and a waste of time. The Doors seemed to be self-aware of this problem. Jim thought that their music does not work in day light. Likewise, after LA Woman they were going to have Elvis bass player Jerry Sheff join them on tour but without dropping Manzarek's bass-line keys which was a very unique part of their sound. I do not know if they were also going to add a second rhythm guitarist but that would have fattened their sound considerably. The what ifs of music history! Just one more thing: The Who's Sparks song sequence and playing was 'just exactly perfect.' Love it!
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    While I haven't listened to very many live shows from the who, I personally have found the few I have to be quite jarring and sloppy sounding. Surprising for a band that played the same songs the same way all the time, right down to the smashing of their instruments every night. They were a great studio band, and probably cool to see in person, but their live recordings are in my opinion, for the die hard fans or those that are looking for a rawer, punk, lofi sound to their favorite who songs which at times can get old from being overplayed on the radio. The Doors live is hit or miss for me, there are definitely shows worth checking out for their performances, setlists, and I have found some great sounding recordings of them. The Isle of Wight recording is one that up until very recently I had always seen at the top of the lists for worst/laziest Doors show, funny how its now being marketed as the last great performance and being hyped up. I actually find the Doors at the Isle of Wight to be a chill show, that while not very memorable is certainly not even close to the worst Doors recording available. Enjoyed that Beefheart video, the Captain was definitely worth seeing live and though the recordings of him are usually very poor sounding, there are more than a few shows out there worth one's time. Also mentioned where the Almond bros and LedZep, both are bands with great live recordings available that are as good or better than their studio work in my opinion.
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    Yo, rockers!!!! First & foremost, I have not fallen and hit my head. Second, way big thanks to Frank Streeter, Tim Dalton, Charlie Miller, Scott Clugston, and everybody else who has made this possible. Yes, Frank Streeter's excellent tapes from the Summer of 1982 have finally started to circulate widely. Released so far: 7/27/82 7/31/82 8/1/82 8/4/82 (my favorite) 8/8/82 8/10/82 Used to listen to these quite a bit back in the day. Whether you like the 80s or not, these sure sound good!! Time to share. You know where to find me............ Rock on, Doc P.S. You forgot 4/8/71 P.P.S. Excellent copy of 10/10/82 is out as well.......... P.P.P.S. The Who, Boston Garden 4/1/76, 20 rows back, dead center, best rock n roll show I ever saw...............
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    2-14-70. Always amazed that Leeds show happened the same day as one of my favorite Dead shows. A time machine could get me to one, but which one? Would have to be Fillmore, but a part of me would always be wondering if I made the right choice. But then I remember the time difference between continents and I imagine I could close out the Leeds show, jump on the Concord to cross the Atlantic and parachute into New York in time for the Cold Rain opener at the Fillmore. (Perhaps inspired by Phil Collins traveling across the pond during Live Aid to drum for Zep??? Never mind the quality of said performance.) Anyway, I think I could make it work. And my mind is somehow eased by not having to make that choice.
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    Happy 4/8 indeed. 4/8 1971 and 4/8 1972 are two of my favorite shows so will certainly be doing some listening today. I'm in NJ so feeling the pain of an extended winter as well. Been a long cold lonely winter in more ways than one. Thank god for the dead who have been keeping me in good spirits since I was 13. No idea what my life would have been like without them.
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    Yea sometimes it snows but it's just been cold not even a mild day anywhere and they just said below normal temp's for and other week after a brief warm up I take a couple days of above normal temp's before it drops again. It's been a long cold lonely winter. haha p.s. It's been warmer in Alaska than in the northeast. Darn global warming.
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    Sometimes it snows in April O(+>
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    Hi all, interesting discussion about other bands. Once I got into downloading Dead shows, I eventually found my way into sites that had a treasure trove of bootlegs from everybody. I got some great shows, everything from Floyd to Zappa, even Lou Reed and Derek and The Dominos. I am sure a lot of you are way ahead of me on this. Now I can say I am not well versed in all of these bands live shows, but looking at the British band being mentioned - Floyd Stones, Who, Beatles, and Zeppelin, I think Zeppelin had some jam-improved shows. Now it is true their set lists were almost identical, but Zep seemed to have their own jam launching songs. Dazed and Confused, Whole Lotta Love, Moby Dick (drums) are few. IN later years, No Quarter was a jam vehicle for them. Again this is what I came across, but I may not be so accurate. I believe we have few resident Zeppelin fans who can shed light on this. However I feel like I listened to a lot of these bands live shows, and even when I include the Allmans and Phish, The Grateful Dead are the apex for me. To quote Booby they are "just exactly perfect". You know variety is the spice of life though.
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    Lotta poor man make a five dollar bill, Keep him happy all the time...Dark Star -> Sugar Magnolia -> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) April 8, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, London Long distance runner, what you standin' there for... https://archive.org/details/gd1978-04-08.140922.sbd.miller.sirmick.flac… Baby's back all dressed in black. Silver buttons all down her back... https://archive.org/details/gd1985-04-08.sbd.miller.118375.flac16 Put your gold money where your love is baby... https://archive.org/details/gd1989-04-08.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8351… Wake up to find out... https://archive.org/details/gd1991-04-08.137103.sbd.miller.flac16
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/01/22/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Grateful Dead Family Dog at the Great Highway San Francisco, CA March 01, 1970 Download: FLAC/MP3 Recording Info: SBD Master Reels -> Dat (Panasonic 3700) > Transfer Info: Delta DiO 2496 sound card > HD > CD-R > Mastering Info: HD > CD WAV > Cool Edit > Trader’s Little Helper 2.7 > xACT 2.35 FLAC 8 (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) Mastering by Seth Kaplan (alligator69@optonline.net) March 25, 2015 Disc 1 1.Big Boy Pete * 4:14 2.Morning Dew 9:47 3.Hard to Handle 6:09 4.Me and My Uncle 3:30 5.Cryptical > 1:58 6.Drumz > 3:48 7.Other One > 10:15 8.Cryptical//reprise > ** 8:45 9.Black Peter 9:12 10.Beat It On Down the Line 3:30 11.Dire Wolf 4:26 Disc 2 1.Good Lovin’ > 1:46 2.Drumz > 3:28 3.Jam > 5:01 4.Good Lovin’ 2:04 5.Cumberland Blues 6:27 6.King//Bee *** 8:09 7.China Cat Sunflower > 4:57 8.I Know You Rider 4:58 9.Uncle John’s Band 7:27 Notes: -This is as complete a SBD as is available on the master and eliminates the cassette generation present in previously circulating versions of this show -Missing from Disc 1: New Speedway Boogie Jam/soundcheck, Casey Jones (before Big Boy Pete) -Missing from Disc 2: Dancin’ In The Streets, It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue (after Uncle John’s Band) -These AUD only tracks are not included here but are available on shn ID # 4641 to supplement the SBD Thanks to anonymous for the discs * – First 0:06.122 of d1t01 Big Boy Pete spliced in from AUD patch via previously circulating SBD source from Hanno Bunjes: 3rd gen cassette > CD > SoundForge (5% speed correction/amplify) > CD as per shn ID # 4641 notes. (AUD patch volume adjusted -25% in new source) ** – splice @ 04:56.54 of d1t08 Cryptical reprise *** – splice @ 05:24.72 of d2t06 King Bee All flaws noted above are present in the master and appear in the previously circulating SBD shn ID # 4641
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Angry Jack Straw - I'd also go with just the five. Which to choose though, that's tough. I like Ladies & Gentlemen a lot. I mean, that is some Midnight Hour. Sunshine Daydream for sure. Now it starts getting tricky. Have to economize though. Dick's Picks 14. Dick's Picks 18. The 3rd show from the Winterland 1973 box set 11/11/73...and one free soundboard for my troubles, 2/26/77!! That was difficult. I could easily rotate a different 5 releases in there. DP 12, Rockin' The Rhein (with Bonus CD), One From The Vault, Winterland June 1977 3rd show 6/9/77, Closing of Winterland...one free soundboard RFK 6/10/73!!
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In the den I never listen to complete, sequential evenings of all the songs that were played together in a row. If I wasn't "at" that show when it happened, I sure as shit ain't now. Having been to several Mardi Gras, in New Orleans, and also having suffered through weak Fat Tuesday celebrations elsewhere in the states, there is nothing like being there. So listening to a past show sequenced in totality is the same as drinking in an Irish bar on Fat Tuesday in Cleveland, and finding the baby in the King Kake. It's bullshit, compared to being there. To each your own, however, at home we shuffle every song every date every year every lineup. It's all the same show, really, a massive God-breath that peaked, petered, and eventually blew out before relighting and burning into the mellow amber we have now. Dead and Company. Still listen to complete shows on cd in the car, though. Have to forward whenever Supplication, Sunshine Daydream, Weather Report Suite or Cassidy comes on. I am unfond of those numbers. Let's add Looks Like Rain and Lazy Lightnin' to that shit list. And all of Brent's songs cut to album by this band at the end, at it's most dysfunctional and void of material.
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I am so, so very sorry, man. I know what that is like, and it is one of the hardest things in this life to deal with. When my first cat died many years ago, I woke up crying for three days straight, I mean right out of sleep, first thing after waking up, right into crying, it was fucking horrible. The pain was so intense. Now my second cat is about fifteen, and is now showing signs of end of life. People don't realize just how close/connected we are to our furry friends...for some of us they are like our children. I pray that you and your wife find peace soon. Peace, man.
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I thought you hit the nail on the head when you drew a distinction between seeing the band live and listening to a live recording. We, who collect live recordings, are not listening to live shows. We are listening to recordings of live shows-which is very different. It seems strange in a way how much emphasis is placed on the importance of including the whole show in releases. If what we want to listen to is the best music the band played, then we do not necessarily need to listen to every song played at every show. Especially, perhaps, when we have got so much music to listen to. Two of the best releases in the Dead catalogue remain Anthem of the Sun and Live Dead. Both releases are enhanced by a cut and paste technique. Anthem is a work of art. Both releases seem to recognise that recorded music is different from live music. They present live music in an imaginative way that capitalises on the benefits of both mediums. Having said that, I do like complete releases. But there is surely room for other approaches as well. I bought Long Strange Trip last year for the Dark Star, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed listening to both cds from beginning to end-even though I already had most of it. It just hung together really well. Someone mentioned that they would like to see a box set of Dark Stars last year somewhere-all unreleased, from one particular year. All sorts of things could be done-there is surely room for diversity.
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It's interesting.. both Anthem of the Sun and Live Dead were designed partly at least to have that whole show feel. More specifically to guide the listener through a full trip.. from coming on, to take-off, to interstellar exploration and peaking and ending by safely delivering you gently down and hopefully planting your feet firmly on the ground. I believe that was the goal anyway.. This is mentioned for Anthem at least in the excellent documentary Anthem to Beauty. There are a lot of the compilations out there I really like.. DP2, DP18, even the oft aligned, choppy Wall of Sound Road Trips. ..but things have evolved and with many of the lower hanging fruit already picked and released.. and with what is not an unlimited supply of top shelf, releasable shows left, I think it's safe to say for the most part the whole show model is here to stay. There is hope though.. there have to be many fragments left in the vault that need to be released where the whole show either does not exist in the vault or there are technical issues with part(s) of the show. My guess is in the coming years you will see Dave and Rhino come to grips with how to get the excellent quality segments to market, somehow.. and I doubt of the Road Trip model will be the vehicle for that. We all don't listen to an entire show every time we listen to the GD.. we often build our own playlists or hit the FF and RW button to get what we want with the time we have. But Dave's Picks will likely continue to release full shows if they exist.
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I wouldn't be too hopeful for any Dave's Picks from 80's any time soon...The 89 box hasn't even sold out yet and those shows are great.
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I'll be dipped in S*%t
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Two very good years, '74 and '78, were also fraught with inconsistency onstage and in the recording process. Thus I think some great music, which for whatever reason doesn't fit the complete show release profile, has gone unreleased. To Dave and Rhino: Let it flow, I'll drink it any way you pour it.
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sacrilege.. Would you like them Here or there? Could you, would you, With a goat? Would you could you on a boat? gasp.. try dipping them in peanut butter then. Morels are one of my favorite foods and coincidentally one of my favorite mushrooms. I wish I was better at finding them.. but come this April I have some better ideas on where too look. They are here.
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Agreed. Probably my all-time favorite release from the "vault-type" releases. I am happy with Dave's Picks, but I am still waiting for the release that even comes close to DiP12. That China Cat... melting.... Peace
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Now that is funny. Sure to piss a few people off, but your entire premise is spot on. The China from DaP12 is what I play when people ask why I like the band so much. If they can't figure it out in the first 30 seconds of that song, then nothing I can say or do will ever convince them otherwise. Plain and simple. Not worth any more of my time. Or theirs. Crazy good stuff. Dave can spend all the time he needs searching the vault, but I have a hard time believing that anything left in there compares to DP12. DaP5 comes the closest and that was 5 years ago.
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Dicks's Picks 12 is indeed some of the most creative and free GD music there is. But there are some unreleased shows that have some of that same magic. The first that come to mind are:10/18/72 6/22/73 5/19/74 I suspect these will all see the light of day at some point. Dave has mentioned a St Louis Fox '72 box set from time to time, with 10/17-19/72. It's a very fine run.
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Few things: I don’t mind the compilations. Nice compliments to the rest of our collections. Dicks 7, 12, and 31 (all 1974) more than stand the test of time. I gotta think that there are early gems in the vault that feature chunks of shows that they can combine to get the good stuff out there…thinking 1967, 1968, 1970, etc. I’d be more than happy to get whatever is available rather than let them sit in the dark forever. Finally…Go Eagles! I know there are a few fellow Philly fans on the board…this is our year!
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Score me another vote for compilations. Another downside of subscriptions -- Everything has to fit in the 3 discs 4 times a year formula. Which in turn kinda kills 80s shows, and maybe a lot of partial 60s shows in the vault. As-is, I think there'll continue to be mostly 70s releases. they fit the formula best.
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No Pigpen songs! Sacrilege. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0794SPYLK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid… Disc: 1 1. St. Stephen (Live at The Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA 2/27/69) [Remastered] 2. Bertha (Live at The Fillmore East, New York, NY 4/27/71) [Remastered] 3. Wharf Rat (Live at The Fillmore East, New York, NY 4/26/71) [Remastered] 4. Sugar Magnolia (Live at The Olympia Theatre, Paris France 5/4/72) [Remastered] 5. Jack Straw (Live at The Olympia Theatre, Paris France 5/3/72) [Remastered] 6. Truckin' (Live at Lyceum Theatre, London, England 5/26/72) [Remastered] 7. Morning Dew (Live at Lyceum Theatre, London, England 5/26/72) [Remastered] 8. Brown-Eyed Women (Live at The Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, Denmark 4/14/72) [Remastered] 9. The Music Never Stopped (Live at The Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA 8/13/75) [Remaster 10. Estimated Prophet (Live at Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 5/8/77) [Remastered] Disc: 2 1. Friend Of The Devil (Live at Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY 10/27/80) [Remastered] 2. Feel Like A Stranger (Live at the Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA 10/4/80) [Remastered] 3. Fire On The Mountain (Live at Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY 10/31/80) [Remastered] 4. Bird Song (Live 1980) [Remastered] 5. Ripple (Live at the Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA 10/4/80) [Remastered] 6. Eyes Of The World (Live at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY 3/29/90) [Remastered] 7. Touch Of Grey (Live at Rich Stadium, Orchard Park, NY 7/4/89) [Remastered] 8. Blow Away (Live at John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia, PA 7/7/89) [Remastered] 9. So Many Roads (Live at Soldier Field, Chicago, IL 7/9/95) [Remastered]
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Oh, look! We've found something else to debate that ultimately boils down to personal preference. Where's Peachy when you need him?
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That DiP 12 is one of the greatest offerings of GD that has been...offered. Despite it's chopped nature, it is a doozy. That Opening Chinacat jammy happiness into I Know You Rider sets the mighty tone and it never lets up. I Love All GD, partial, whole, bits, pieces, even just the opening note to Viola Lee....BRING IT ALL PLEASE. Sixtus
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When I first got into the Dead, I didn't mind if shows were incomplete. In those days I would FFWD=> through cowboy songs and ballads anyway. What I began to realize, however, is that there was a method to the Dead's set lists, that created and ebb and flow to the music. The first method was to alternate singers: Jerry, Bobby, Pigpen; and then within that alternating pattern, they frequently set one song up for another (like a ballad would act as a coda after a rocker; or within a jam like Dark Star, the tension that was brought on by five minutes of atonal cacophony would be relieved by the melodic Mind Left Body, Tighten Up, or Feeling Groovy jams). I also prefer complete shows, because any song can have one of those hot moments that immortalize a song version...take Me and My Uncle from DaP 11 - Jerry's solo jumps right out of the speaker cabinet at you.
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How do we get our hands on a complete show if the music never stopped?
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I mentioned this before but I would like to see them start up the Road Trips series again in addition to Dave's Picks. Dave can continue to cull shows from the 70's with his picks and the Road Trips series can be used for shows that are incomplete for whatever reason, taping quality, destroyed/damaged tapes, missing tapes/sets, etc. Hell the Road Trips series could even be used to release complete shows from the 80's and 90's that might not have the best recording quality. Set it up as a subscription, start it at 10,000 units or whatever they think demand would be and start releasing parts of shows or shows. The Dave's Picks series would be reserved for the cream of the crop full shows and the Road Trips series could provide a degree of flexibility. Everyone wins! Fans of all eras get some shows or parts of shows and The Dead and Rhino get our money.
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I say just release everything, regardless of completeness, audio quality and era.
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If this doesn't move you to tears, or at least cause a lump in your throat, go immediately to the nearest ER, as you may have expired and just don't know it yet.
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Wonderful! Such a great song. That night at Shoreline was a great show, and the following weekend's 3 nights of Phil & Friends at the Warfield made for one of the best weeks of post-GD music in the Bay. It's not this version, but one from Red Rocks I think, where Joan says she realized how sad a song Days Between is during the performance and started tearing up while she was singing it!
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Good news, David! Your order is on the way. A UPS shipping label has been created. Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status--including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated.
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When there is a lot of leftover space, they do filler or two shows (DaP 3, DaP 6, DaP 11, DaP 12, DaP 18, DaP 19, DaP 22), so they're not really pigeon holed into a format.
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I thought Joan was an excellent fit for the post-Jerry Dead. At the ATL show the encore was Loose Lucy with Joan and Sammy Hagar singing. That was pretty fun. Was disappointed in 2004 when Joan was not included.
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Should arrive in about two weeks, 10 days if I'm lucky and the wind is blowing in the right direction. I expect to have read many reviews on here before I get to hear it for myself. C'est la vie.
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DiP 12 is an outlier for me as it tries to replicate a full show from a combination of 2 shows, and it's a personal favorite. DiP 14 is a good one, too, but I almost always would prefer the full show, even if there are songs I would skip on relistens. Even though I loathe and detest it, I listen to Little Red Rooster the first time through on a release, just to see if there's anything worth listening to in future. Looks Like Rain is borderline, up through '77 or so I usually don't skip, but after that, the theatrics of Bobby's performance tend to grate on me and my poor ears. But like keithfan mentioned, where I used to be a second set only listener, when I got into full shows, I started to really appreciate the Dead a LOT more. The Road Trips are not my thing, for the most part, but I get the idea. I end up making 1 or 2 disc highlight compilations anyway, but you never know when a first set song is going to be a definitive version for you, and if it's cut from the release, you may never know, unless you go to the Archive to check out the rest of the show. If it's a short show, I want as much filler as possible. DaP 11 is still in my top 3 Picks and is a short show with almost a whole disc of filler including a 30 min PitB. I wish they had a rule of no 40 min discs. But I hope Dave's Picks stays full shows, and if they want another way to put out compilations or things like that, I'd probably buy a lot of that as well. Last 5: Dave's 19 1/23-24/70 Dave's 17 7/19/74 Dave's 21 4/2/73 Dave's 23 1/22/78 40 years ago today 5/9/77 Other stuff has been mixed in, but those are the last shows I picked for a full listen.
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Eagle's Aud.~Seattle,Wa.Listening now and it's a fun show. 50 years ago... Midnight Café has it if ya want it. :o)
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For all of the reasons mentioned. I see no downside, other than (and I wish I could remember who said this a few months ago), it will take longer to hear all of the second set gems (and first) when you have complete shows. But I'm young, I can wait. This is why we probably won't see something as totally awesome sauce as DP 12 again. They would need to release something like DaP 16 and DaP 21 as a single set to get all of the long instrumental passages on one CD set. I can't wait to hear Binghampton. I've been warming up with Seneca (DaP 12 leftovers + DP 34 leftovers), and it's gotten me warm alright.
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Rogue Guy - sorry to hear about your furry friend, had a scare two weeks ago - my boy dog killed a raccoon and turned out to be rabid. He's always been current on rabies vaccines, but scary thought - only way to detect rabies is thru brain dissection. He's in-home quarantine for 45 days. Funny thing is that where he grabbed raccoon was right near where my mom-in-law parks and she had picked up my 5yr old from school right before that. So conceptually the dog was protecting her. Nice link Bolo, very moving performance. My preference is whole shows and favorite era is the one drummer lineup (Bill the Drummer), but listen to all. Still missing DaP1, couple of latter DiPs and a bunch of RT's but working on that... Last Five listens: 73-12-19 DiP1 72-09-24 30TATS 68-10-20 30TATS 89-07-13 RFK Box 78-01-22 DaP23 Looking forward to next couple of weeks with seeing my team back to the SB and some upcoming releases DaP25, JGB GL v10, RT 4.2, FZ box.
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jrf68 and boblopes are on the right track. It was 40 years ago today, the Grateful Dead decided to play. They have never gone out of style, and they're guaranteed to raise a smile... Particularly if you decide to listen to DaP 23 today. We're so quick to rush off to the next one with our pontifications and speculations, but don't forget that 1.22.78 is one ripping show with which we have been so recently blessed. Cracking open a Crank Yanker IPA (yeah, that's a thing) and enjoying this one tonight. (Best Suzy Kolber voice): "Thanks Dave!" $0.02... Favorite official release? Yeah, put me down for DiP 12. It epitomizes my favorite Grateful Dead sound. Jerry's tone on that one just puts me into my happiest place, no matter what else is going on. LedDed, I am right there with you in terms of your "Fast Forward" list, with one massive exception. I am going Freedom Rock and turning it up to 11 when the Sunshine Daydream from DiP 12 comes on. Neighbors get pissed and people start freaking out at stoplights when that's on the tray. Compilations or full shows? I'm voting compilations all day if that's what gets an official Fillmore East 9.20.70 out here.
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....you know how alcohol on the top shelf is usually the best? Well, if DP 12 was an alcohol, it would be on the shelf above that shelf....
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That Eyes. Lord, that may be my favorite version just because Jerry has two hot solos and Phil comes in for the kill on his solo and just tears it up, then non-chalantly goes, "Thanks a lot folks, see ya on Friday." The one from Selland 7/19/74 is probably better overall, some other ones, too, but being an encore this one has remained my favorite. Had to put it on again just for the Phil solo. For you guys and gals lucky enough to see the band in '73-74 the heaviest of the "jazzy Dead", did it seem like they were edging into fusion territory, or was it just normal that the Dead would get weird? Just a random musing after hearing a bass solo Stanley Clarke, Alphonso Johnson, and Jaco Pastorius would tip their hats toward. Lastly, the Jerry Moore AUD makes the Wall of Sound's clarity abundantly clear, the voices sound much better here than on the SBDs due to those mics. I tell ya though, the constant torrent of "Sit down" and "Sit down, f*ckers" is maddening, and put a point in favor of the listening to a nice SBD argument vs dealing with some of the stupidity of the live experience. Even in Providence 1974, asshats abounded. In the comfort of my own home, however, Dick's 12th is a masterpiece on the top of the uppermost shop of Vguy's theoretical shelving unit.
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Scheduled Delivery: Monday, 01/29/2018 , By End of Day Last Location: La Vergne, TN, United States, Monday, 01/22/2018
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I wanted to chime in on the complete show talk--Several have made good arguments about the existential question of listening to a LIVE show that might not live. You're not experiencing it live,it's all echoes. Despite agreeing with this, I'll tell you I almost exclusively listen to whole shows--even fill in Dick's Picks with audience tracks if need be. The reason is simple--context. It all matters. Skipping the rest of a primal show for Dark Star/Stephen is like skipping not only the foreplay, but the sex itself, for the orgasm. Cheers to all and let the music keep coming. (Pun intended)
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Does it follow that skipping the rest of an early 1970 show for And We Bid You Goodnight is like skipping not only the foreplay, the sex itself, and the orgasm for the postcoital smoke?
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Very well done
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Full shows Grate!! No wonder the Dave's Picks series is so successful.
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Me? I only ever listen to complete shows. From start to finish. Every note, every drumbeat, every flubbed lyric, and every soaring solo. Unless, of course, I'm in the mood for some killer second sets. Then I'll just hopscotch from set to set in whatever order my mood dictates. Then again, I might start running a train of "Brown Eyed Women" through the decades from Newcastle '72 to Normal '78 (and possibly beyond!) just so I can experience its evolution in every subtle nuance. Or, after a few hits of Purple Contemplation and a glass or two of Buffalo Trace, I might decide to play a game of jukebox and simply let my whole Dead archive (studio and live) play on random for a few hours of "Wonder What's Next" bliss. But only from '68 through '78. Never anything past that. Okay, well -- except for some occasional '89 or '90. But that's my absolute hard stop. Not counting 10/19/94, which was my last ever Jerry show. GD at MSG, bitches!
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