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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Roguedeadguy
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    Check out the Nugs.net site. They appear to have all the Dead & Co shows available on physical CD, in addition to a multitude of download formats. I've bought a few shows on CD from them over the years (other bands, not D&C) and they're excellent quality SBDs. Sometimes I get the CD as a souvenir of sorts when it was a particularly mind melting show. Usually shows are available on that site within a day or two after the performance. Let me know if you have any other questions or if you're not seeing what I'm seeing.
  • JimInMD
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    I didn't see the words scum and leeches in Doc's comments. This subject has come up before, I took his reach out to be more an act of hey.. I will send anyone this for free if you like, no questions asked. The harsh comments were not directed towards dissident, just another persons view of the organization that put together that box set. Certainly not towards anyone here. I really take this whole conversation as just more clarity on what that box set is. Is that fair to say, I did not read any of these comments as personal barbs or jabs. I personally do not hold any ill will for someone buying this box and expressing hype that he/she likes it. But I do see some value is a poster here saying, hey.. that's great, but I would gladly send anyone else interested the same thing for free, sans packaging and cut the middleman out of the loop.
  • LedDed
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    I too have the yellow 1971 box, I got mine really cheap, like $30. The sound is up and down, kind of middling like other radio broadcast releases. The point is having the shows that haven't been officially released. There is no moral or ethical quandary here about buying bootlegs. I'll buy a T-shirt in a parking lot. The band are all millionaires - and they get plenty of my money also. The official releases sound the best of anything out there - by far. Even the premier taper's shows are lacking in fidelity by comparison. I'll listen to some of those shows maybe one time for the experience but then have to run and blast out a Normanized-show to cleanse my ears. Even the 30 Days of Dead downloads here every November sound like crap. The quality of a cd or even an Apple download blows those away, sound-wise.
  • Thin
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    Whoa, WHOA dissident... Easy on Doc. Why does everyone pounce all over each other with daggers at the drop of a hat? If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Doc. Doc's not a hypocrite and he's not scolding anyone for buying bootleg shows - he's just pointing out that they are technically illegal, and the Dead sees no profit from the scum who flood the market with product that they have no quality-control over and see no profit from. I think Doc is more likely "sticking it to the leeches" by offering for free a show the leeches are trying to sell you for $40. I bought some bootleg shows on CD back in the day just because it was my ONLY way in, before I got hip to trading. I wasn't proud to support the leeches, but I HAD HAD HAD to hear 4/28/71, or 5/8/77, at the time, so I bought it. Doc is sharing shows, just as ALL of us share shows, right? There is nothing wrong with that - it's what we've all done for decades, right? Am I missing something here? The sales of Dave's Picks are going UP despite the incredible ease of streaming, downloading and file-sharing. Trading and sharing shows INCREASES interest in the commercial product. The model works.
  • icecrmcnkd
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    I don’t read the liner notes (can’t, the type is too small and often printed with a color that blends with the background) and only look at the artwork when first received. Then I make a CD-R copy to listen to and put the original in storage. I have over 4TB of torrent FLAC but still buy every release because they usually sound better and often include missing pieces (1-22-78). So buying official releases makes sense. Bootleggers just get the same torrents I already have and package them up. This was all previously discussed on another thread when that 71 box was announced.
  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Yo rockers!!! Before this turns into a painful and public flame war, let me say this about that........ But first, a disclaimer. Have I ever bought a bootleg Dead product? You bet. Back in 1979, I bought about 4 or 5 bootleg Dead albums. However, once I discovered free trading networks, that ended.... As somebody said, it IS about the music. And when I share, I don't "package" it. I send just the music, people can decide for themselves whether it has merit or not. That applies to 1971 or any other year. For those who care, here's the logic: In doing what I do, the Dead aren't losing any money----but that's not the point. The point is, I don't profit from the creative act of the artist. Bootleggers do. If people don't see that difference, well................ And just for the record, and this is just one man's opinion, in this forum you don't do a "public service" by promoting bootleggers............... Anybody who wishes to continue the debate, that's why pm was invented........... Doc
  • Mr.Dc
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    One is basically paying bootleggers for cardboard with grateful dead related images and notes when it comes to that 1971 yellow FM boxset. One can even read/print out all the liner notes and see high quality scans of all its contents on discogs, so there isn't even that incentive either. This is my opinion of course, I mean no offense.
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Why would you pay for something that you can get for free?Free from Doc (as long as it’s in the range of 71-71) and free from the magical torrents (all years). The Dead also don’t get a penny if Doc gives it to you, but Doc gets the satisfaction of spreading the gospel of 71.
  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Morning rockers!!!! I thought I smelled some comments about 1971. Serves me right for sniffing around............ That previously mentioned 1971 FM box set is a well known bootleg artifact that is completely legal in Europe. Less so here in the US of A. If you buy it, keep in mind that the Dead don't see a penny of that, it all goes to the bootleggers........... If anybody out there is interested in those shows, I will send them to you for FREE. Yes, FREE. Free exchange of music, wrap yer Sunday morning mind around that concept........... Miss me yet? LMAO!!!! Back to lurker mode................ Rock on, Doc Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall
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    I agree, with Dissident, a great box. Every show is worth hearing, especially 11/7/71 Harding Theater.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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25 won't arrive in Santa Cruz until Monday night, so I'm keeping myself occupied with all the Dark Stars I have from 1968. Also reading Phil Proctor's autobiography, Where's My Fortune Cookie? Paperback – December 27, 2017. If you're a Firehead this is required reading. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/138970503X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_… Ran across this streaming link - A Banjo Lesson With Jerry Garcia? Listen to This Tape from 1964 http://tomorrowsverse.com/story/a-banjo-lesson-with-jerry-garcia-listen…
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It is 1 bonus disk for the whole year. I believe it comes with DP26. Enjoy, I just got mine today, this show is a rager!
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You may need to get in touch with Dr. Rhino about getting a replacement disc.
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3400 has arrived in Philly. It's 12:53AM in Philly I'll spin this one, one day during the week. happy One More Saturday Night.
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....I sense it. Loping Dead. I like this show a lot. It grooves so elegantly. They are lit, gooey goodness. Billy needs a light Candace!!Definitely a different vibe than Hamilton. Amazeballs that a band can switch up the mood from show to show like they do. Dumbfounding at times.
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Glad you are all getting yours.This years sub has been a righteous pain from get go, paid by pay pal, but never received a confirmation that my sub was registered. Many, many interventions from Marye, Doc Rhino and Daniel, some contradictory correspondence,finally assurance that my sub was active, was even able to check order status once, but now my order status comes up blank and no confirmation mail of sending, so once again Marye is on the job pestering Doc Rhino, I fear that even if this works out finally, it will be the same story next time round, and the next time and the..... I really am fedup with the constant snafus, site crashes when trying to order, waiting for the Anthem and next box news, if ordering next time is also a problem then Im giving up. Off the bus after 51 years?
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did you hear that just now? That point in the instrumental jam where time stopped, and you witnessed Buddha (or whomever) conducting the flow of music in real time, and you tapping your feet in unison, completely in the moment, amazed at what you are hearing? How about the lyrics in that song which just took on a much deeper meaning for you, kind of an "ah hah!" moment," because of where you are and what you are going through in your life right now? That's the Grateful Dead, my friend ;) If you are here on this board (even just lurking), and know what I'm talking about, you are a member of the Brotherhood/Sisterhood. No further bona fides necessary... All are welcome...who have eyes to see, and ears to hear. Peace, all.
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The wife just got Sirius in her car as of yesterday, and she and I spent the whole day driving around this great state of ours visiting family, listening to Grateful Dead Radio, along with others stations. Anyways, I didn't catch the Jack Straw from last night's broadcast of 5/12/80, but I was thinking of that 2nd set He's Gone when I woke up this morning. That is a hell of a performance. Here's my Top 3, which are more or less set in stone... Truckin' Playin' He's Gone Nearly every other song is tied for 4th, depending on the situation/performance/day of the week. Peace
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Not sure why I torture myself by attempting to track these thing until they hit my mailbox, just not a very patient person these days I suppose. Looks like my copy was within 20 mins of my address in Philly as of yesterday and has now apparently been sent back out to 2 hours away in Jersey City. I would love it if shipping were UPS the whole way.
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Mine is sitting about 2 miles away at the post office.It being Sunday........ We’re gonna miracle you and make a special Sunday delivery.....
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Did you ever receive a confirmation email for your subscription?If so that’s your receipt/proof of purchase. Other people have previously complained about issues with using Pay Pal.
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Spot on-that's as good a description of getting turned on by The Dead that I have read. It can happen in the unlikeliest places, during the unlikeliest songs, too. But a few never seem to fail. As I am typing, I am listening to the jam between China Cat and I Know You Rider from Newcastle 11th April 1972. One of countless brilliant versions played between 1972-1974. These two songs and the interlocking jam encompass almost everything I love about the band. The whole of this first set in Newcastle is pretty good actually-Tennessee Jed a few songs ago, was superb. And this jam, towards the end of I know You Rider..amazing!
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I don't know why its so much harder ordering cds from this site than it is from any other. I cant seem to order anything from my laptop at home. If I want anything, I have to walk into town, and use one of the computers in the library. Which is alright, but I am sure I would order more if it wasn't so difficult. Impulse buys are not an option for me-which may be a good thing. I would probably have ordered the 1989 box set one of these evenings if I could have done so from the comfort of my own home.
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Wow I can’t believe how good this is. The sound is pristine, stellar. The playing is muscular, fierce and not sloppy in the least bit. It rocks hard yet they are able to effortlessly shift the dynamics down to lay it down easy when the tunes call for it. I love DP 34 and Dap12 but this seems a bit above those in overall consistency. Is it something about stepping it up a couple notches to end a particular run? I’m really not sure. They are just so damned dialed in. I did a double take when they went from Mexicali into Me and my Uncle as if someone just pushed a hyperspace button to transport them in a flash yet right on the beat. In November I had some really annoying ordering issues that I have never previously had. Was forced to use PayPal and it finally went through. Also read a bunch of postings groaning about another 77 release and I was almost convinced that perhaps Dave keeps going back to the well too often. But hearing is believing. So glad to have this.
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No,never received the confirmation mail;that was the issue which started this whole palava, Danial said multiple times he would send one, never arrived, though at one point he said that our correspondence constituted a confirmation, and that my order was processing, I got an order number which allowed me just once to check order status, but as I said it just shows up blank these last weeks.Dave Rock noted that he has problems placing orders via laptop, I only use a pad, maybe thats the issue here. But in Marye we trust! Thanks for your concern!
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I think it’s a browser/cookies issue most of the time. Not including times when the site is overwhelmed by everyone trying to order at the same time.I’ve experienced issues where I put something in the cart and go to checkout then it says that there is nothing in my cart. But, in the upper right corner the cart symbol shows a 1 in the cart and clicking on that then moves the process forward. I think that a lot of people have experienced that and got frustrated when it said there was nothing in their cart, without seeing the 1 in the small cart icon. So, always check the little cart icon. Also try other browsers, and allowing cookies. Hope that helps. Don’t have my DaP 25 yet but I know the show smokes because I had it on cassette years ago, then on CD-R. Looking forward to the Full Norman. For this rainy Sunday I’m doing some Pink Floyd from their Boxzilla: stereo remix of Pompeii, then remastered Obscurred By Clouds, now the ‘71 offering.
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If you got an order number I would have to say that you deserve the subscription.But if your PayPal never got charged then you might have an uphill battle.
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Oh yes the payment was taken immediately!
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You absolutely are owed a subscription. Hopefully it gets straightened out this round so you don’t have any more issues during the next 3 rounds. As for Daverock’s ordering problem, he lives in the UK so his internet traffic runs on the wrong side of the internet. The computer he uses at the library has one of those Elon Musk internet inverters which gets things running on the correct side. ;)
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Im in Sweden, we changed sides in 1967! a week after I first heard about the Grateful Dead in an english pop music paper in connection with a review of Monterey and the SF sound.Sweden therefore showing immense foresight and thus avoiding the wrong side of the net, long before the net was a twinkle in somebodys eye. Spooky.
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The primary issue when new releases go on sale is the sheer volume of traffic right away. Everyone knows the good stuff will sell out so they all try to get a buy on ASAP. I know I do. And their servers can't handle the traffic, this isn't amazon after all, just some crappy little server in a back room with some stoner monitoring it, munching chips and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. When the 2018 Dave's sub went on sale, I spent the usual first couple hours getting kicked out, frozen, re-starting etc. until finally a purchase appeared to go through via PayPal. PayPal logged the purchase but I never got a damn thing from dead.net or Warner/Atlantic. In a panic, I purchased a second subscription a day or two later for insurance, this time using my debit card. This one hit right away (initial web traffic having fallen off), and I got the confirmation quickly after. I finally sent dead.net a note asking if I had one or two purchases, days later I got confirmations for both. I only need one not being a re-seller, so they kindly canceled one and let the other stand. I was still kind of holding my breath until #8738 arrived Friday afternoon. Great listening; nearly perfect first set (I could do without, 'Passenger.')
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Dave’s Picks Volume 25 snuck in late yesterday afternoon. The cover art links copperdomebodhi and others posted are good, but if you need a higher-res, color-corrected version, here’s an option. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5j3i9osr23jg5r6/Dave%27s%2025%20SQUARE%20FINA… Great color on this one, but color-matching was crazy thanks to Tim McDonagh’s closely analogous color palette. I made scans of both CD Cover and Booklet (each is cropped slightly differently) and combined the two so that all of the artwork's included. I then extended the top and bottom to “square” the image (some of us like square format for itunes, phones, etc.) Hope you enjoy. Please pass around as needed. Hope those order snafus get sorted out fast! Hang in there Tony.
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anyone else wonder if their disc was skipping during this track? it sort of sounded like jerry was slurring his words. ----
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Hey, P. Fox -- the Scarlet/Fire from this show routinely gets hammered as sub-par due to its flubs, particularly the fact that Jerry trips on the lyrics each time he opens his mouth during "Fire". Personally, it doesn't phase me (hard to find any show where a lyric or two didn't get forgotten or butchered). The overall vibe and Jerry's solos more than make up for it to my ears.
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yeah. that's kind of what i thought as well. the music was tight. it was just the lyrics that were botched. ----
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it has its moments, yes. fun, too. I just..."can't explain" ("can't explain"). no complaints, though. it just feels like they could have energized some parts of it even more, taken it farther...whatever. the Scarlet has always made me want to crawl out of my skin ("get on with it!") goodies: Half Step transition from Mexi > M&MU Duprees Passenger Dire Wolf Truckin', of course. tasty
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I have had the chance to listen about 4 times all the way through so far. I like this show quite a bit. It has some great moments and is a very solid overall show. The first set was amazing. Really like the Mississippi to start things off. The second set is great as well. Some tasty treats in there. Overall, great pick Dave! Good start to the 2018 subscription.
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I’m a little late but wanted to comment about a week ago in that there should be more clubs in school at expense of sports. While I think more math clubs would be good. ... I am finding my pre teen kids involvement in lots of sports to be teaching them very valuable life lessons about getting along with other kids, working with others, building confidence, etc. I originallySigned them up for sports cuz I love sports but the benefits they have obtained have been great ! Plus having worked in corporate America I see how valuable these inter personal skills. Just an opinion from a math geek ... I’m a cpa
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....as to why the Scarlet->Fire was flubbed? High. As. Fuck. Simple. Newsflash. The Grateful Dead did a lot of drugs....it gets so quiet during the the transition, I thought they were playing in a library. Sounds good to me....
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As are sports. As is music. That dude who was complaining about geeks somehow being maligned was way off base.
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Sound quality on this release is fantastic! Perfectly mixed levels of all the instruments. Crazy good. I agree with others you can tell Mr. Garcia partook of a few party favors between sets and the Scarlet > Fire while flubbed is absolutely drippingly psychedelic and brilliant on a very sublime level. Jerry is tuned into his guitar this entire night. So many highlights mentioned already. I will add Minglewood is on fire(!) and the drum intro into NFA is long and tribal. Lots of fun banter these last few shows of 1977. Love this one. Thanks Dave keep them coming! I am feeling '73 or '89 for #27. We shall see...
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Got mine in Denver on Friday. Listening through for the second time now. That first set doesn't blow me away on paper but its a scorcher. Love the Halfstep and Jack Straw to open the show and that transition from Mexicali to Me & My Uncle is a thing of beauty. Second set is awesome too, I dig the unique Scarlet/Fire and everything from St Stephen through to the end is top notch. GREAT SHOW!
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Was anyone questioning why the lyrics were flubbed? I thought we were all just generally acknowledging how solid the Scarlet/Fire is in spite of the flubs. Though I may have missed a post in the scroll, speed-reader that I am. But thanks for the newsflash on the copious amounts of drugs. 'Cause, you know, I would never have guessed that to be the case.
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This show is a lot of fun with a lot of very intense moments but it has quite a few sloppy moments as well. Really interesting to see how different this show is just from the night before. 11/5/77 is very solid, in my opinion, but doesn't quite reach the same peaks. I can deal with the slop though, especially when the energy level is through the roof, but the one moment that really makes me cringe is the end of TMNS...not the best way to end the set. Highlights for me are Mississippi Half-Step, Passenger, & Wharf Rat. Passenger isn't one that usually stands out for me but this is one of the more solid moments in the show. Also nice to hear the rare Dupree's Diamond Blues. Wharf Rat was just absolutely mind blowing and the St Stephen coda was really surprising.
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I have to agree this show cranks, Playin>Wheel>Playing to end first set, simply incredible! The show is full of banter, some miscues, glitches, but played Raw and energetic, isn't that why We all loved these types of Shows! This show or 6-4-78 Next!
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What was wrong with the music never stops? I thought the ending sounded great.
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hello all,I opened my volume 25, put disc 1 in and Half step skips in a few places. There are no scratches or anything? It jumps 2-5 seconds a few times. This is the only song that has the problem. I also tried playing in two different players and get the same outcome. I contacted CS, but was wondering if anyone else is having a problem? John
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I'm with you on this one Porterhouse. I hope this show was one of the recovered Bettys. We've been fortunate enough to get so many 1977 shows I feel that I don't need anymore at the moment except for this one. With any luck, this will be the next 1977 show to hit our mailbox. The Slipknot is absolutely Epic. My favorite. It's an all Jerry extravaganza. I don't know of any others where he is as loud has this one and where he goes on for as long as he does on this one. There's also a great funky Phil ending I'm sure you know toEyes of the World. The Terrapin Station is also a little different and good. It ranks very high on Heady Version.
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2/26/77 is indeed amazing. I have to check the sound quality of my copy but I think it’s pretty good if I remember correctly. May need to revisit later this week after (presumably) listening to the new Dave’s Picks a few times. While we’re at it, can we get 3/18 as well? Also one of my favorites from that year. Thin and others have mentioned 10/29 from time to time and with good reason. That might be a candidate for show of the year. I guess my point is, despite the wealth of shows released from 1977, the well won’t be dry for quite some time which makes me incredibly happy to think about. EDIT: And while I'm daydreaming, can we have 9/29 and 10/2 too?
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I'm talking about the end...where it gets sloppy. I don't know who missed the queue, but the drums just start going full force and they aren't matched up. If it doesn't bother you, rock on.
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....never thought this show was a top 5 1977 show. BUT the first set is so damn good. The transition from MB>MAMU is just jaw dropping and FOTD is better than most. The Mississippi is just insane..............The 2nd set is good but not great...until that monster Truckin' drops. The sound quality is fantastic..as for 2-26-77....yes please. Hoping for a 74 box this year........but will be happy with whatever the fates give me. peace
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Can somebody clear something up for me? The liner notes on DP 25 note that Healy has the recording “dialed in.” But the credits say the recording is by Betty. Which is it? Or is it both? If so, why isn’t Healy’s name on the credits. Am I missing something.Have yet to play, but I’ve been listening to the SB on archive.org for years. Hot show in the home town of McIntosh Labs.
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The liner notes you seem to refer to say, "Healy had the joint completely dialed in". Presumably referring to the sound in the Arena. Betty did her own recordings, which she dialed in for tape, not the room.
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