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    When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.

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    Police state increasingly obvious in US
    The ACLU is successfully dragging several police departments into court over what they say are unconstitutional arrests for recording police conversations and behavior. DAs say that because police have sensitive conversations with witnesses, etc., they can't be recorded. They make the distinction that the recording is not illegal, just the publication of it. What bullshit! Cops don't want their illegal behavior to ruin their careers. Not all cops, just the ones that are doing illegal things. This has to change but I'm not holding my breath for the Supremes to make the right decision.
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    wait, wait, infear
    if this is it http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAD-Summer-Getaway-2003-85cd-Box-Set-Lim-Ed-/25068… it's legit. Munck was the licensee for that tour. and now, back to bedbugs and addiction...
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    Ok....lemme get this straight...
    is the Govt willing to pay for the treatment?...and why would someone be foolish enough to turn down free treatment?..or would they rather live with an unhealthy addiction? If they have the money to spend on alcohol and drugs why not spend it on something more sensible.....like....oh....food and shelter, for instance? Aren't the benefits being given for that purpose? If I'm outa line here, please let me know......
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    never heard of it either
    I think it's safe to assume it's a bootleg. What's the auction link? I don't actually remember if they sold the live recordings at the 2003 shows or not, but I never heard of this. If someone else knows please speak up!
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    I'm l;ooking at an Ebay Item, it's a box set with 85cds in it, says it's the whole 2003 Summer Tour is this legit??? Says only 500 were made? Never heard of this any help would be appreciated-
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    yeah, it is not just a fleabag hotel issue these days
    a little googling will really scare you! Of course I haven't stayed in a hotel for ages, but yeah, kinda does creep you out! There are all these clips on the TV news about washing all your clothes in hot water when you get home from a trip. It seems to be a pretty big problem even on the pricier side of the travel world. And yes, in the US.
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    We owe the troop an exit
    By BOB HERBERTPublished: August 30, 2010 NY Times We learned on Saturday that our so-called partner in this forlorn war, Hamid Karzai, fired a top prosecutor who had insisted on, gasp, fighting the corruption that runs like a crippling disease through his country. Time magazine tells us that stressed-out, depressed and despondent soldiers are seeking help for their mental difficulties at a rate that is overwhelming the capacity of available professionals. What we are doing to these troops who have been serving tour after tour in Afghanistan and Iraq is unconscionable. Time described the mental-health issue as “the U.S. Army’s third front,” with the reporter, Mark Thompson, writing: “While its combat troops fight two wars, its mental-health professionals are waging a battle to save soldiers’ sanity when they come back, one that will cost billions long after combat ends in Baghdad and Kabul.” In addition to the terrible physical toll, the ultimate economic costs of these two wars, as the Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz and his colleague Linda Bilmes have pointed out, will run to more than $3 trillion. I get a headache when I hear supporters of this endless warfare complaining about the federal budget deficits. They’re like arsonists complaining about the smell of smoke in the neighborhood. There is no silver lining to this nearly decade-old war in Afghanistan. Poll after poll has shown that it no longer has the support of most Americans. And yet we fight on, feeding troops into the meat-grinder year after tragic year — to what end? “Clearly, the final chapters of this particular endeavor are very much yet to be written,” said Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan, during a BBC interview over the weekend. He sounded as if those chapters would not be written any time soon. In a reference to President Obama’s assertion that U.S. troops would begin to withdraw from Afghanistan next July, General Petraeus told the interviewer: “That’s a date when a process begins, nothing more, nothing less. It’s not the date when the American forces begin an exodus and look for the exit and the light to turn off on the way out of the room.” A lot of Americans who had listened to the president thought it was, in fact, a date when the American forces would begin an exodus. The general seems to have heard something quite different. In truth, it’s not at all clear how President Obama really feels about the awesome responsibilities involved in waging war, and that’s a problem. The Times’s Peter Baker wrote a compelling and in many ways troubling article recently about the steep learning curve that Mr. Obama, with no previous military background, has had to negotiate as a wartime commander in chief. Quoting an unnamed adviser to the president, Mr. Baker wrote that Mr. Obama sees the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as “problems that need managing” while he pursues his mission of transforming the nation. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, speaking on the record, said, “He’s got a very full plate of very big issues, and I think he does not want to create the impression that he’s so preoccupied with these two wars that he’s not addressing the domestic issues that are uppermost in people’s minds.” Wars are not problems that need managing, which suggests that they will always be with us. They are catastrophes that need to be brought to an end as quickly as possible. Wars consume lives by the thousands (in Iraq, by the scores of thousands) and sometimes, as in World War II, by the millions. The goal when fighting any war should be peace, not a permanent simmer of nonstop maiming and killing. Wars are meant to be won — if they have to be fought at all — not endlessly looked after. One of the reasons we’re in this state of nonstop warfare is the fact that so few Americans have had any personal stake in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no draft and no direct financial hardship resulting from the wars. So we keep shipping other people’s children off to combat as if they were some sort of commodity, like coal or wheat, with no real regard for the terrible price so many have to pay, physically and psychologically. Not only is this tragic, it is profoundly disrespectful. These are real men and women, courageous and mostly uncomplaining human beings, that we are sending into the war zones, and we owe them our most careful attention. Above all, we owe them an end to two wars that have gone on much too long. A version of this op-ed appeared in print on August 31, 2010, on page A21 of the New York edition.
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    Jeez, the ritziest, Marye?
    That kind of makes my skin crawl and not want to stay in a hotel anymore...
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    re bedbugs, if it's any consolation I'm always editing stuff for travel sites warning people that they can get bedbugs in the ritziest hotels these days. Re the NYC issue, I agree with you also.
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    one whit! :) no worries Gonzo!! Is rare that I form an opinion before reading and thinking for at least a bit, so is also rare that I change my mind :P Am still for the right to build, though I agree with you that an interfaith center would be a really cool idea!!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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...in this great kingdom. So many simple kindnesses between the coasts amongst neighbors. Sure, there the usual problems that everybody sees in the newspaper and has to mourn as the Death route passes from the church to the graveyard to bury the soldier. But the kindnesses of Middle Americans to each other more than make up for the bad news they only are a tiny cog of. They have bake sales to put on and basketball tournaments and none of the stuff we all struggle with has any any reality in, say, Wichita Falls, Texas or Topeka, Kansas. It feels so goof that we can go there if things start to burn on the immoral costs. In the Midwest folks were brought up right, always going to church on Sunday after the baseball game Saturday night. Middle America is truly magic, a place you wouldn't dare steal the pie cooling of the kitchen window.
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Wish I could spell or flesh out a coherent idea lately. Glad for the Chileans. This might be the end.... "I'm an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill" "Drop the bob. Exterminate them all! Entitled: An Afghanistanlpytic Redux
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are getting out, free at last. One by one! Hope the one poor mimer sorts out the wife/girlfriend situation, the monkeys bring them the beer they deserve, and their lives are happy ever after.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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The rescuer has descended into the mine and is about to load one miner into the capsule: gosh, I hope each rescue works out flawlessly. Pictures down below make it look really warm, as the miners are wearing very little clothing. All look clean, healthy and ready to move up the shaft.
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hope the shock of being rescued isn't too much for them.
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they are wearing some kind of eye protection gear,seven of them out so far so all going well one of the mimers isnt that keen to be rescued as both his wife and mistress are up there waiting on him lol.
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they've never been so happy to get shafted in their lives! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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A pamphlet published in 1916 by an outspoken advocate for Liberty, WilliamJ. H. Boetcker. "The Ten Cannots," "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. You cannot establish security on borrowed money. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves."
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There's always these (thank you George Orwell): WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH Isn't the third one the Fox News motto?
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of there dark hollow and strangely when sunlight hit they all became very vocal and are no longer addicted to miming.The chilean goverment are now trying this method for other forms of addiction. Gimme a little light.
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....what's the betting he was one of the rich, privileged and strong? It's not often the poor, downtrodden and weak that come up with that kind of stuff. Reminds me of the old joke Rich man to poor man (in patronising voice) 'Money doesn't make always make you happy, you know' Poor man to rich man 'Maybe so, but I'm prepared to take that risk!'
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Isn't that stuff pure, classic, Libertarianism (not up on my isms)? Doesn't matter the label, there are plenty of incidents in history where the poor HAD TO rise up and take it away from the rich or starve. Like the coal miners in Kentucky. The War Bonus Marchers. Etc., etc., etc. For me it's a given that the downtrodden will have to fight for every inch. But the thing that gets me the most are the rich man's hired guns. Yeah, they have to feed their family too, but they do the greatest disservice to the working man and in the end it is always the Pinkertons or whomever turning tail and running away that wins the day for the little guy. Surely there is a way of compromise where simply humanity is enough qualification for the least things in life (including education) while those with backbone and ideas and capital are are made to pay a greater tax that is in no way commensurate with the far greater wage. The way it is now I expect looting to break out in major cities on a vast scale within 5 years with banks making up their own foreclosure papers and judges (who ought to be jailed for 180 days for each instance) signing those bloody papers.
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yet there are those that want to be handed everything, rather than earn it, those that are not willing to save, but live beyond their means, those that look at someone who has worked hard for everything they have, and say "hey that's mine, you must have stolen it". The list I posted is NOT all inclusive. In turn I say, if you have more than you need, share with those that don't, not because some law says you must, but because it's the right thing to do. If someone needs help, give it freely. If someone knows not how, teach them. If someone absolutely CAN'T do for themselves help them because that could be you. If people work for you, pay them a decent wage and don't turn them away because they may be "too old" or are handicapped. It all boils down to common decency. And if someone DOES help you be sure to be thankful and help others when you can.
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some of them are politicians. I don't have a pot to piss in, but I share what I have. If the Government wants me to give more, maybe the legislature could take a cut in pay first, they sure as hell can afford it.
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...and hope it come true. In the meantime I'll study Gandhi and Saul Alinsky and Jerry Ruben and many other nonviolent radicals for a way toward change. My main point was: Why can't we have a dividing line between $20,000 and $20,000,000 for the slackers and the talented? I mean, it's almost that way now you just can't call it that -- you might be -- gasp, labled... *** A SOCIALIST *** (Gor forbid!)
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the common decency thing helping others and sharing is the way i live my life some times peoples take advantage but its good for my karma and i sleep well at night
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...except I yet to see it in the microcosm up here in Vt, (not that you can't anywhere else like Tacoma) where 18 year old crackheads try really hard to get knocked up so they can get a an AFDC payment, food stamps and housing assistance (among many other programs) that go to wed and unwed mothers. It's an unbelievable welfare culture, all the more so in a town that is the county seat and jail facility where a revolving door exists. I do support feeding one baby who has none to eat among 1000 who have enough. It's just the sight of the mother pulling the stroller up to the convenience store to buy a pack of cigarettes that gets to me. What would Jesus say? Never mind Buddha -- it is such a luxury we have in our society that we are about to lose and find in an avalanche of heartbreak hurtling down our heartstrings. It coming, make no mistake.
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To all those witty conversations with those like-minded and the talk that was teasured in that it made me think, thank you everybody. I'm moving on (really), but think I'll stop by here again every now and then (no cause).. Thanks a million everybody!!! ~ I heard some say "better run away" Others say "better stand still"
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I think I'm enjoying the ride! Be good Gonzo as you boogie along the speedway of life. Take along some Neil Young and Frank Zappa tunes and say "HI" when you can, revealing where you've been!
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hope my wiseass hasn't contributed to your leaving us, please come back soon!!!
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its been grate reading your posts and sharing etc come back soon be well...........
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oh nooooooooo Gonzo! We need you here for your fascinating topics and insights. Hope you come back from time to time, and have a good life journey in the meantime. ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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come back soon, the place won't be the same without you!
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Our Geeky McSquare delivered a 4lb10oz baby girl yesterday! Mother and baby are doing OK, and I saw the 1st photo on FB. Gorgeous little thing!! Baby McSquare is still unnamed, as far as I know. Wish Mama and Baby all the best in the world.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Why can't we just name it Baby McSqaure? Sweet...kind vibes and loving to Ms. McSqaure...Love you darlin"♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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to the world baby mcsquare and much love to ya geeky
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I go away for a few days, come back and Gonzo's gone? Say it ain't so!!!
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gratefaldean sure he will be back soon hope you had a nice few days away.
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The Giants are in the playoffs! Good luck playing an excellent Phillies team: wish I could be there & feel the home crowd energy ...Last time the Giants won the World Series ? ..... over the Cleveland Indians in 1954. SF didn't quite make it, in 1989, over the A's.... The 49'rs finally won a game, over the rowdy Raiders, no less!
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to the Geeky family!
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is not relevant to this thread or news to anyone but the amount of spam we are getting in our forums is really getting me down im trying desperatly to ignore them but come give us a break we are hippies we dont want replica watches and i personally do not need a prom dress could you all please go away and leave us in peace.
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marye works hard trying to delete this knuckahaids , ripple....but they are bound to slip through. Not much we can really do about it, bro......
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Quite a few spammer posts, starting at > NEW East Coast Furthur Shows Announced offering deals on Prom dresses. Isn't it a bit early in the school year to look for a dress? Hey, how about those Giants, and Rangers!!?
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I want one! :-)********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Will there be cookies provided for spectators?....Badger, can I sleep on your lawn?
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if you mean that pile of rocks with a few weeds sticking out ..sure jm feel free. But you might prefer the guest room :-)
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off to smite the prom queens.
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maybe he'd like that CB! to float on a rubber raft in your pond.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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we have a finalist... Going through and nuking the hordes who arrived since I called it a night last night, I come across one who's apparently in Nottingham in the UK, and in the business of promoting local establishments that provide facials. That's the theory anyway. What makes me doubtful that he will succeed in this endeavor is that he chose the screen name... facialsnott which I just don't see as calculated to drive beauty-seeking hordes to his clients.
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heeheeee!!......facialsnott.....oh dear....
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facialsnott is providing a service to permantly remove facialsnott
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anyone allowed to enter this tour de france if so i am there,and do you supply the rubber rafts cb?
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Interesting route, CB: Whadya think: travel with a tent and set up shop in Saint Flour, leap-frogging down thru the Pyrenees and up to St Paul-Trois-Chateux? Starting up in the NW corner is a different twist (Normandy?)I'll have to begin studying mode of transportation choices. Wonder if Lance and Alberto will be racing?
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I'd invite everyone to the rally next week in DC but I'll be on a Phishing trip that weekend. I don't think I'd be qualified for the 1st version (Sanity) in any event. I'm still pissed at Jon Stewart for his remarks about Phil's underwear, blotter acid and the Blues for Allah tour anyway - hahahaha! I'd make a darn fine addition to Mr. Colbert's army of un-dead (Fear) though. Perhaps I could bi-locate... this one time? "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." ~ Hunter S. Thompson