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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • hendrixfreak
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    Okay, ya got me going'.........
    I will confess that for every vivid memory -- of which I have many of RFK and Watkins '73 -- there are deep blanks that kinda worry me. We tripped our asses off for two days' in a row at Watkins (not my usual approach for absorbing lessons before going back for more) as it was the thing to do at the time. (That's lame but I've made peace with it over the past 45 years...) Which is to say that 8-31-73 was only 3 freakin' days after 7-28-73 and we managed two more GD shows with The Band opening. My memories of 7-31-73 and 8-1-73 are limited to seeing a girl up on someone's shoulders handing Jer a birthday cake over the lip of the high stage. It was a warm moment, then total darkness claims all other memories of those two great nights of music. That the GD blasted away in style and that we were crisp as hell is a given, but no details any longer emerge. I will say that my dream of a Summer '73 box may be propelled by a wish to recall more, should the recording jog some rusty cog. BUT, if I have to start agitatin' for a SPRING 1971 BOX with my buddy Pig all over it, then hell, let's have TWO FREAKIN' BOXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My way of saying, Happy Friday afternoon. (And here's to the upcoming Anthem reissue with (I pray) a sweet '68 show included.) And thanks JimInMD: right back atcha!
  • daverock
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    Tales of the olden days
    Yes, I like to read of peoples experiences at shows from way back, too.And nowadays, even 1995 counts as way back.
  • daverock
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    Having listened to the Dark Star from 11th September 1973 this morning, I continued listening to the odds and ends I have from Fillmore West shows 1969 this evening. And got to the Dark Star from 1st March. What an amazing contrast to the 1973 version. Virtually everything is different-from the tone of Jerry's Gibson to the inclusion of Mickey Hart-which seemed to make much more sense pre 1971 than it did post 1974. Tom Constanten seems unusually high in the mix, which adds a sort of stately psychedelic vibe. Bobs presence, however is much more muted, although Phil's counterpoint playing to Jerry' lead is as essential as it was in 1973. I wouldn't want to state a preference for either one-they are both superb in their different ways. Its fascinating how this piece of music alone developed between 1968 and 1974.
  • JimInMD
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    Re: RFK, Watkins Glen and Roosevelt Stadium
    I remember those tales of old.. they were great posts. One of the reasons I pay attention to these boards is getting show reports, hearing outrageously fun stories and absorbing a bit of the culture. You can learn a bit, laugh a little, smile and get some good ole GD vibe moving through your grey matter. I knew you could write.. but wow. Congrats HendrixFreak. I am not at all surprised to hear about your book. Great news.. .....and those old posts were really fun, thanks for sharing. I have a hard time remember details of the shows I saw all those years ago.
  • kyleharmon
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    I have the fillmore west and
    I have the fillmore west and 5/23 & 24th/ 69 grabbed me more and Dicks 24 gets me going more. I know they play everything differently and it was to record a live album but its almost the same set every other night, would a been nice to throw in a china cat or he was a friend of mine.
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    Wheels & Deals
    Wheels 6/29/76 5/7/77 5/19/77 5/25/77 2/3/78 * Deals 10/24/71 8/27/72 9/16/78 * 11/30/80 7/19/89
  • hendrixfreak
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    Book? Are you kidding me?
    I didn't even tell any stories... but if you scroll back a couple years on this forum, I did post stories from RFK, Watkins (with pics) and Roosevelt Stadium (9-19-72 and 7-31-73 and 8-1-73). If Dave releases a Summer '73 box -- right now, it exists only in my feverish imagination -- I'll bust out a few true tales. Funny, Bolo hasn't been around. It probably takes him a little time to craft those maddening brain teasers about an upcoming release. Wouldn't it be time for one, now that a box announcement must be imminent? And, BTW, the joke is on you. I'm a professional author... new one coming out in May: Working for the Man, Playing in the Band: My years with James Brown (Toronto: ECW Press, 2018). It's a first-person memoir by my guitar teacher, who put in 7 years under JB's tutelage in later years. Strictly what he saw and heard and no BS or speculation or gratuitous dirt. Just the real thing. Please forgive the plug, but you called me out. In the final twist, it's now available for pre-order.
  • Thats_Otis
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    CurveBall, Baby!!!
    Plus, the two Merriweather shows the weekend before! Going to be a Phish-y week! C'mon August... (Sorry, just bought tickets and I am super pumped!) In Dead related news, I've been really enjoying the Closing of Winterland set this week. Disc 3 on paper would seem to be one I would skip (20min Rhythm Devils> 20min NFA>Around and Around) but it is really great! Lots of energy and the added musicians really give the jams that extra "umph." Oh, and Coltrane has been one of my longtime faves! Rumor is that some great live Trane and Miles, (and other jazz greats) can be had if you can find the good Forensic Doctor and ask nicely... He has greatly expanded my collection of mind blowing Jazz recordings! (Thanks again, brother!) Happy (windy) Friday, everyone! Peace
  • Old Chief Smokem
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    Book?
    Hendrixfreak, When are you writing a book? I'll pre-order right now.
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    Our first selection is the oldest live Grateful Dead music we have in the vault, from Los Angeles on 2/6/66, playing a batch of tunes from which only one would survive in the repertoire much past mid-1966 (BIODTL):Tastebud, Mindbender, One Kind Favor, BIODTL, The Only Time Is Now. http://www.dead.net/sites/all/themes/dead2013/jplayer/?url=https://sos2…

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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