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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • JeffSmith
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    It's a real bummer to hear Lovemygirl needs to part with his Europe '72 CDs. Maybe some of us can help him out and buy a few of these amazing shows. If you don't have all of 'em yet, now's the time – they're becoming very hard to find for a reasonable price. Only 2 are still available here on http://www.dead.net/store/music (4/8 & 4/14) Lovemygirl listed his offerings by show number. Here's his list with venue and date added (** = sealed/unopened) 1. April 7 Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley 3.** April 11 Newcastle City Hall, Newcastle 4.** April 14 Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen 5. April 16 Aarhus University, Aarhus 7.** April 21 Beat Club, Bremen 8. April 24 Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf 9.** April 26 Jahrhundert Halle, Frankfurt 10. April 29 Musikhalle, Hamburg 12. May 4 Olympia Theatre, Paris 13.** May 7 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan 15.** May 11 Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam 16.**May 13 Lille Fairgrounds, Lille 17.** May 16 Theatre Hall, Luxembourg 18.** May 18 Kongressaal - Deutsches Museum, Munich 19.** May 23 Strand Lyceum, London 20.** May 24 Strand Lyceum, London 21.** May 25 Strand Lyceum, London 22.** May 26 Strand Lyceum, London This post is totally unsolicited. I'm fortunate to have a trunk. Just hoping we can help out a brother. PM that boy! Onward!
  • Thin
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    FW'69 is the highest height the GD ever achieved. All the other peaks ('72, '77, '89) don't come come to the visceral energy and spontaneity this run achieves. I can only imagine what fans of, say, Jefferson Airplane (with their 40 minute concerts and cutesy 3 1/2 minute songs, even when live) thought as they watched 2/28/69 unfold. Agreed that the FW'69 shows are like E'72 in that they are so consistent that each show is almost indistinguishable from the others, which makes sense since both these runs were planned and multi-tracked for the explicit purpose of creating a live album. I think there first two shows slightly better, though I love the 23-minute jam on 3/2/69 that seems to sample 4 or 5 different songs instrumentally in one long piece, kinda like how movie soundtracks now do.... but they did it spontaneously - amazing. As for the notion that they might re-release FW'69 because "Hey they promised a one-time release but that was 13 years ago - times change". No, they don't, any more than I can say to my wife "of course I've been f__ing my assistant at work... our wedding vows are 16 years old! Times change, babe! What's for dinner?" Luckily Archive.org DOES have the amazing SBD's (not just AUD's), so there is no need to waste a release on a re-issue for the few who missed the first pressing. Listening to 2/28/69 on Archive right now on it's 49th anniversary, and the sound is amazing!
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    Yeah. I missed the initial release. It wasn't until years later that I came across it. Rhino said no more copies would be released and I believed them. Silly me. But you know what? I didn't sit here and complain. I didn't ask for a re-release. I did something about it. Hunted around for quite some time until I found a copy at a "reasonable" price. And I bought it. You see, copies are available. You are simply making the decision not to pay the amount asked. Which is fine. But, please don't come here to whine about it. Hell. The total cost of one D&C show these days is almost the same price as one of those boxes. How many folks go to those? Me. I'd rather have the box. Here's a thought. Why not sell your copy of DaP 1 for the going rate and you will have enough money to buy two copies of FW69? And yeah, 2/27 is the deal. The band got it right on the first try.
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    But are you master of your domain?
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  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Times do indeed change
    "If a man does not master his circumstances then he is bound to be mastered by them." Amor Towles A Gentleman in Moscow
  • daverock
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    I take your point about the value of keeping your word, but in the case of the FW box, the word was issued about 13 years ago. My own life was completely different in 2005 to what it is now, and I would hate to be held to account for anything I might have said so long ago. Granted there are statements made in the past that still hold true today. But there are just as many, if not more, that could now be discounted as a product of their time. I can't imagine the place where I used to work in 2005 worrying too much about contravening any of my principles in this day and age.
  • daverock
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    I think it would be excellent if you made the decisions.The ARK box shouldn't be issued instead of the Fillmore 69 box, but as well as.
  • Born Cross Eye…
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    Remaster and re-release FW69
    Keep the audio as it is. They sound fine to me as is. Via Wikipedia page on remastering: Remastering music for CD or even digital distribution first starts from locating the original analog version. The next step involves digitising the track or tracks so it can be edited using a computer. Then the track order is chosen. This is something engineers often worry about because if the track order is not right, it may seem sonically unbalanced. When the remastering starts, engineers use software tools such as a limiter, an equaliser, and a compressor. The compressor and limiters are ways of controlling the loudness of a track. However, this is not to be confused with the volume of a track, which is controlled by the listener during playback. The dynamic range of an audio track is measured by calculating the variation between the loudest and the quietest part of a track. In recording studios the loudness is measured with negative decibels, zero designates the loudest recordable sound. A limiter works by having a certain cap on the loudest parts and if that cap is exceeded, it is automatically lowered by a ratio preset by the engineer. Criticism Remastered audio has been the subject of criticism. Many remastered CDs from the late 1990s onwards have been affected by the "loudness war", where the average volume of the recording is increased at the expense of clarity and dynamic range, making the remastered version sound louder at regular listening volume than an uncompressed version. Some have also criticized the overuse of noise reduction in the remastering process, as it affects not only the noise, but the signal too, and can leave audible artifacts. Equalisation can change the character of a recording noticeably. As EQ decisions are a matter of taste to some degree, they are often the subject of criticism. Mastering engineers such as Steve Hoffman have noted that using flat EQ on a mastering allows listeners to adjust the EQ on their equipment to their own preference, but mastering a release with a certain EQ means that it may not be possible to get a recording to sound right on high-end equipment. See also: Loudness war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war Bottom line: I'd go with a repackaged re-release of all 4 shows individually and the bonus disc and booklet as yet another individual stand alone release. Bonus disc & booklet: early January 2019 All four shows: mid-February 2019 Dave's Picks Volume 29: Subscriptions scheduled to ship February 1, 2019 (Friday) and the remainder at the same time.
  • SkullTrip
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    Yeah, I missed out on the FW 69 box set too. I also missed out on the Renaissance, investing early in Starbuck's, Lincoln's presidency, and seeing "Deepthroat" in theaters. Life's unfair. Moving on...
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    The Fillmore 69 box is definitely the one I consider to be the best release so far, more so than boxzilla, either of the 1977/1990 sets, or even the winterlands 73/77 etc. I agree that everyone should atleast hear those 1969 shows, and I think it would be alright if TPTB did some sort of download only reissue or something of that nature. I got the audio files from a friend, that's probably the best way currently to get the box, though there are torrents and blogs etc. I will add that all those shows are free to listen to on the archive in excellent quality, with multiple audio sources. And that the boxset's cds have also been on youtube for 4+ years. 1969 may be well represented, but I'll always be happy to see more from that year. Personally I would be fully on-board with Dave choosing to only release 1969 recordings until there were no more to put out. Dave then could move on to only 1968, followed by whats available from 1970 and then all that's left of 1973... it's probably a good thing I don't make the decisions.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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