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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Aaaaaaaa? That’s way to existential for here lol. Generally, was obsessed with all things R&R, and wanted to see everything I could. First show was Kiss and the Rockets in January of 78. Don’t laugh, Hey, at least I’m honest! Told about big stadium Fleetwood Mac etc here before. Saw Eagles, Clapton with Muddy Waters opening. Now I had no clue who that was at the time, but boy I’ll tell you they fried my 15 year old brain....completely blew Clapton away. Also some others during that year... Meanwhile I was into a bunch of stuff, but still held Zep, Hendrix and Dead near the top. I told here the story of an April 78 day when for some reason the skull fuck version of Johnny B Goode just suddenly floored me, made my friend play it over and over. JBG was a R&R standard in those days and so I was familiar with many good versions, especially Hendrix.... So it just really resonated, and comparatively blew away all the other versions....they changed me that day. I was also being fed tapes and guitar lessons etc from Dave Homal of later known Homal Alaniz sp? Band (he went out with my friends sister). He worked hard to indoctrinate me. So the dead was creeping up the list in my mind, but there was one thing left that needed to happen..... Unfortunately, they hadn’t come to town since the famous 77 show, and my folks weren’t about to let us travel to other cities yet to go to concerts, which dear old mom was already scared shitless about us going to.. (“they’ll stick a needle in you and you won’t even know it!) lol! Finally, the Dead was coming to town, but Shea’s is a very small theater and it was promoted by Buff State so tix were near impossible for a high school going lad such as myself. Luckily a school buddy and one of the very few other Deadheads at the time in my school, had an extra ticket. I believe face value was like 5 or 6 bucks, but it was 3rd row and a tough tic so wood chuck wanted 20 bucks, which of course I paid and glad I did because it totally changed my life. Seeing them live like that just blew me away. From then on there was always the Dead, and then everything else..... It was funny cause pops had to pick us up, So often he would chat up the cops at the door of concerts and get them to let him in for free. So he was in for the end of the show, and to this day talks about how much he dug Sug Mag, too funny.... Anyway, 1-20-79, barely 16, all the way until 7-9-95, and the rest as they say is history.....one of the greatest days of my life!
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    ...Jimmy, i was waiting for you to reference this monster of a show as soon as you started down the path of "missing reels from Spring 1978". Well done. I agree/concur/hope/proselytize as well! This show is one of my favorites from '78 for sure. Sixtus
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    Nashville or San Francisco?
    I don't know let me think San Francisco!
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    Had been enjoying the first few Dead LPs, but somehow managed to miss them both in 72 and 74, when I was still living in France. Fast forward 2 years, I decided to visit the US with no plan, just a roundtrip ticket to New York. I arrived at JFK, and looked at the departures screen, it was a choice between Nashville and San Francisco. I picked the latter, arrived in SF around 5:00am; checked in a cheap hotel, sat down for breakfast, grabbed the SF Chronicle, went straight to the entertainment section, lo and behold, the Dead is playing with the Who the next day..10/9/76. Had such a great time, I decided to move to SF permanently the next year, in time to catch my 2nd & 3rd show on 12/29 & 12/31/77. After that I attended most bay area shows up until the end.
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    Always enjoy your anecdotes about seeing early 70s shows in California mhammond12. I would have loved to have caught just one, and it seems like you and some others around here had the privilege of seeing quite a few over those years. I was born in '79 so I never got the chance to see the band in the Jerry years. The closest I can get is archive.org and these official releases of full shows, which I seek out with a somewhat reckless abandon. I would love a Capital Theater '71 box almost as much as i'd like a fall '73 box. Come on already Dave. We're dying here for something, anything, to hold us over. Agreed the MUATM is decidedly underwhelming this year. Not sure why they couldn't dust off something that no one has seen. What are they waiting for?
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    I had fallen in love with the Grateful Dead and the whole "hippie" thing when as a 13 year old boy living in very rural area of southern Indiana I read an article in my Dad's Time magazine in 1967 about hippies and the "Summer of Love" in San Francisco. In the article were photographs of the Dead playing a free concert in the park and some beautiful braless hippie chics dancing. My 13 year old male brain filled in the blanks and I decided I'd be a hippie. Started fighting with my parents about hair and clothes and stuff. Fell in with the small hippie community in town and was introduced to marijuana and psychedelics. When I graduated high school I went to college on the west coast and caught the Dead first chance I got 12/15/72 Long Beach Arena. Unlike most stories of this nature reality far surpassed the fantasy. The Dead were great, the people were great. I was on the bus 100%.
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    give it up for the impostors, now copying dead box set releases too. phlogging a dead horse..
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    I'd be fine with 1989 or 1980, but last years box was from 89.. just reading the tea leaves, and they are not spelling 1989 in the cup I just finished drinking. I am seeing '71 or '73 with an honorable mention of '76 but who knows.. I applaud your enthusiasm, however.. nothing wrong with that. For what it's worth.. TIGDH, Lemieux played something from the Spring of '78 (I know it's not Spring, but...). He made specific mention that nothing from the first ten shows in April have been released, that the master reels were not in the vault. He said they are returned and will "get drawn upon sometime in the near and distant future." Sort of a tell that we are getting a Spring '78 Dave's Picks over the next year. My hope is Huntington WV, 4/16/78.
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    How bout a Dave’s from 1-20-79 with set 2 from 1-10-79 as disc 3......
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    Nailed it!Once again you have so eloquently described what I was trying to convey! Yes Dave has favorites, and yes he gravitates toward them, but he is open, and gives the rest a chance..... I personally agree with the live versus other source comment too. The streaming etc is awesome, (if I had usable internet, hurumph....) and it sure is nice to sit on the big leather couch, with the loo steps away, the fridge even closer, so I can drink quality ale, not stadium swill, with a pause button so a, I can step outside and check the air in the ole tires ahem. And the big plasma and McIntosh audio are hard to beat! But there is nothing like live sound, like being there etc....the Absolute Sound Magizine describes TAS as the sound of live, unamplified acoustic music,....that is their point of reference for all audio gear. Mine is the sound of the GD live, through the Meyers Ultra-Sound PA circa late eighties. That is what I use for my reference when evaluating equipment and music. (What ever your opinion of the music was then, the PA then was the greatest of all time!) So like Dave, I love to hear these bands live, and do so when convenient, but don’t normally listen at home.....so little time, so much great music etc. But like he says, when he does “I am usually (though not always), pleasantly surprised by them.” The point is, he does not just dismiss eras, bands etc, out of hand. He at least attempts to listen and understand the music. This is evident by the great reviews of all kinds of different music he gives us. Does he like it all, probably not? But he tries...... Ok, don’t mean to beat this to death. I just feel we all could enjoy, and perhaps get turned onto other stuff by sometimes stepping out of the old comfort zone. And besides, just like the people we love but see all the time, it’s nice to take a time out and perhaps “miss” the ol standbies and favorites... Thanks again Dave!
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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would be great to get out 2/23/74, just missed by DaP 13, just thirteen picks ago
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Wouldn't that be fantastic? Although QRP seems to have the lock on 200g pressings and the Dead vinyl has been 180g from RTI. Either way it would be most appreciated if they cut it AAA as they did for the WB vinyl box at Grundman's. Now that sounds special. And a tip-on sleeve from Stoughton. So, how about either a 180g RTI cut AAA at BG's or....a 200g QRP cut AAA by Kevin Gray?
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David Lemieux's continued marketing of limited releases remains the most idiotic business model ever practiced by the Grateful Dead. He should retire and leave it to someone who cares more about the Deadheads. Byrd - with finger in the air
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Dave speaks highly for the NFA>GDTRFB>NFA on Dave's Picks 26. I have to agree, it's way up there, close to rivaling what has always been my favorite NFA>GDTRFB>NFA, Oct 31, 1971 (Dick's Picks 2), which has an awesome transition from GDTR to NFA. Both shows have similar styles with loads of energy; and it has always been among their best in my opinion.
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Byrd, I couldn't agree with you more - idiocy does run rampant once again, but you're the idiot. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or even a business major to understand why the Dave's Picks business model works. I suppose you have a plan that will increase sales by a third (as Rhino has done) without leaving stock on the shelf. If you're going to bad mouth someone in their own house, at least have a valid point to make. I suppose you're complaining because you missed out. Get a subscription jackazz.
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I think I see at least one bearded skeleton in those balloons....
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I'm usually the one who takes heat for pointing out the real world. As for those who were surprised how fast it sold out????? You're kidding right? I was surprised the sub didn't sell out. Bolo Doors v Who split decision. For a high energy live show the early Who for a quality catalogue for listen to on the home stereo Doors hands down
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Doors subscribe sell out in minutes, not hours Dave doesn't run the whole show...he is merely the face of the Rhino juggernaut subscribe "I willllll subscribe" speaking of Doors: "true a la carte is dead" subscribe I learned the hard way, too. subscribe.
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I really like the balloons... and the color scheme is nice too! Looking forward to this one, (though thanks to the good Doc, I am pretty familiar with Ann Arbor - not that hearing it again all Normanized is going to be any kind of problem.) On another note, an old head friend of mine turned me on to the April 84 Hampton shows (4/13 and 14). Both are on the shorter side, but the playing is HOT! 84 is a year I often overlook, but I am mending my ways. Peace
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And yet I bet the bitching still abounds. 'Cause, you know, it's all so damn unfair.
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i'll take the doors. the who has some certain song material that just makes me cringe, and barely contain the vomit that rises in my throat.
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I dont know, that one with the hat on in the lowest hanging balloon looks like it may have a beard. My guess is though, that the bonus disc will be covered with bearded clams - I mean skeletons!
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I took this as a clue to the upcoming Box Set contents myself.. but I can never figure Bolo out.. The Doors borrowed their name from Huxley's book The Doors of Perception about a Mescaline trip in 1954. Who opens doors? Mescaline Sulfate perhaps? The only Mescaline show I know of has already been released (5/11/78, Springfield on Dicks Picks 25). There's got to be more to this post then stirring up discussion... I bet it ties to the other two posts, '7 and bacon', 'No 14' and now this 'The Who or The Doors'??? mmmmmmmmm........ What, the bearded skeletons are back? Like the last release, I like the colors and I took a hot air balloon ride over a desert near Albuquerque at a company function, so it resonates with me...
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4/16/72 Get Some.
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Just finished it about an hour ago..
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....listening right now. Kinda in the background, but I'm listening. Cumberland just started. Boiiiiing!
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Hey Dave (if you read this) Any chance of releasing any of the NRPS sets when they opened for the Dead? Either with or without Garcia? Thanx.
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China Cat just started for me....
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Ha interesting reaction to the who. You might not have got it from my post but I was far from as big a fan as my friends were though I did like the early days who. What songs were most shall we say puke provoking to you. I started Townsend's auto a year ago. Serious vomit material. I read a lot, have a large library I not only stopped reading halfway which I rarely do I threw it away which I never do
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Very interesting hearing from Dave their policy on bonus discs and cover somgs. Somewhat limiting
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Got to admit outside a couple of songs always hated Tommy. Quad was ok
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I know some of you purposely avoid listening to these, so the whole experience is brand new. So, you can skip this post, or let it tantalize you at your own risk. The sound on the 11/17 tracks is just fantastic! What a great recording by Betty or Rex, and a great mix by Mr. Norman. The band sounds really fired up. I'm more excited for this release after checking this out and the video with Dave's usual overly effusive ebullience. Looking forward to 2 Other Ones, especially with that kind of talk of Bob and Phil playing aggressively. The whole thing about covers on the bonus disc makes sense, but those 2 examples from years back are definitely not public domain, Smokestack is credited to Howlin' Wolf, and Good Lovin' is credited to Rudy Clark and Arthur Resnick, maybe Rhino heard from a lawyer or two since then. Perusing a few of the Road Trips, they have Lovelight as a fairly popular bonus disc track, Not Fade Away shows up, Hard to Handle, a Sing Me Back Home, etc. This site allows one to quickly search the tracklists: https://www.whitegum.com/bonus.htm Also, The Who are, to me, the greatest rock band of them all. The Dead are my pick as the best American rock band, and their varied setlists make engaging in such recording hoarding a much more addictive venture, though I have about all The Who live recordings and studio stuff, outtakes, the Townshend demos (which if you don't know about them, his demos of him recording at his home studio are just astounding on their own, they are fully realized tracks with a straighter, more basic drum and bass playing, and Pete singing everything, and they've been officially released in the Scoop series, well worth getting), but their is a more finite amount of releases than with the Dead. With the Dead, I get at least 4 new shows, perhaps a box or two with some cool extras. And the ever changing setlists and ways of playing songs and the explorations of the Dead have me listening at work and in the car most of the time, but I could just as easily fall down a several week rabbit hole of Who, with lots of repetition, or go off on a Duane Allman listening excursion for a month, or split time with String Cheese and Dead, but the mainstay is Dead. So, shorter answer Who over Doors. Thus ends the rant. Carry on with fervor for Dave's 26, and SUBSCRIBE in November and avoid the pains of scrambling for 200 or 300 copies.
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I like both bands. Some deeper comparisons.... Robby Kreiger vs Pete Townsend Both are iconic guitar players. I think Pete Townsends strengths are with his theatrical presence, a riff master and coming from Europe, perhaps a more classical music sensibility, where Robby Kreiger comes from a background of blues, jazz, flamenco and soul. Might have to give Robby Kreiger the edge here. Keith Moon vs John Densmore Hands down, Keith Moon at his best was pretty phenominal. Sure, he had the famous incident where he got to high on pills to play, but at his best, right up there with the greatest rock drummers. Densmore is more of a finesse soft touch player, but still great. Roger Daltry vs Jim Morrison Daltry always seems like the consumate professional. Still belts it out. His lyrics tend to take themselves less seriously. Morrison the poet certainly had his merits as a lyracist and at his best, a decent vocalist, when he wasn't fried. Certainly unpredictable and by todays standards would have probably been considered bipolar. Still, both iconic. Probably give Daltry the overall props here. Entwisle vs Ray Manzarek's left hand Obviously Entwhistle, because, he was a bass player. Huge part of the Who's sound. Albums I suppose the Who has a more iconic catalogue. High production value. The Doors first three albums and LA Woman are iconic as well. Probably overall, The Who wins out for me, but I do like Waiting for the Sun and Strange Days a lot. Apples and oranges in many ways. Now if someone were to draw comparisons to Jimi Hendrix, it would be hard for me not to put him at the very top of the 60's rock and roll food chain. Electric Ladyland may be the best album by any artists from any era....ever....imho. Clapton vs Beck vs Page Jeff Beck all the way. BB King vs Freddie King vs Albert King No debate. All three are essential, especially for blues. Coltrane vs Miles At this point, why even compare?
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...it’s in a written clause, contract. It’s all about business...Like somebody once said, ‘Money beats soul’ ;)
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I don't hate The Who I didn't mean to give that impression. I just have a really hard time getting through "Fiddle About" on Tommy it grosses me the hell out. It always bothered me even when I first bought the album in 12th grade. and just recently I mean the whole line of "who is it? i'll rape it" or what not in Quadrophenia I was like what the good fuck?
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Hey snafu, I was never much of a Tommy fan, but had an extraordinary listening experience last week after hearing Keithfan's live track. Highly recommend it. Takes the best released performances and ties it all together in one track. The not so great songs are not there. There's a link on the Dave's 25 page.
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Imagine a who book around the fiddle about and you have Townsend's book. It was sick.
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I dig the cocktail jazz that was the Doors at the end. Pete Townshend is an artist, he interprets subject matter and possibly as a catharsis releases it in his material. He wrote all the lyrics Roger just belted them out. New Dead, I don't usually even queue up Lemieux rambling on about all the minutiae concerning a given recording. I'll listen, and fill in the blanks myself. It goes quicker that way, I mean, does the guy seriously fire up a fat one before blathering on endlessly? Current listen: The Strange Remain, The Other Ones. The Grateful Dead never really left us, what with all the incarnations over the years. Yes, when Jerry got on the elevator it was an immeasurable loss, but the music continues.
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Not at my computer at time of ordering, I speak English, Spanish Italian and Athabaskan, (My Mothers language,,,aka Apache)...But I just couldn't understand this Dude...Hence the Phone call....CRAZY HUH !...PEACE....TOMAS....
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I was not at my Computer Vato....And the Smart Phone wasn't smart enough to Translate from Swahili or whatever He was speaking into English....But...I FINALLY got thru to him...I believe it's on it's way....PEACE....TOMAS.
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You cannot petition the Lord with prayer. Alltime great lyric amid a very cool song. Riders on the Storm The End When the Music's Over The Crystal Ship Peace Frog The Changeling Five to One All better than anything the Who ever did. The Who were very cool live. But for the energy they delivered, not for the content. The Dead had both.
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It’s art after all so we can all agree to disagree. It’s like whose better Picasso or Van Gogh. I’ll take The Who every day of the week. I said in an earlier post that I really dig the L.A Woman album, and I do. But I agree with the sentiment posted earlier that Quadrophenia is an album that stands head and shoulders over most. Play it loud and marvel at Moon and Entwistle driving the music. Listen to the lyrics and marvel at Townshend’s description of an insecure kid’s growing pains and angst. Townshend wrote unique songs from day one. Go back and listen to the Who’s first album, My Generation, and compare it to the Stones or the Beatles at the time. Also listen to the track The Ox - I don’t know why that doesn’t seem to get credit for the first use of recorded feedback. Another classic album in the early canon is The Who Sell Out. Who else could write Mary-Ann with the Shaky Hands. Pete is a genius lyricist, composer and player. And he was accompanied by the most powerful rhythm section and a great front man. Long live The Who in the studio and live. The one downside to the Who in the studio is the missing Lifehouse album that should have followed Who’s Next and been before Quadrophenia. It’s kind of like the Dead not having a great studio album after American Beauty and instead having a bunch of awesome songs instead appear on Garcia Ace Skull and Roses and Europe 72. Listen to the extended Odds and Sods and you can hear a lot of those great Who songs that were never put on a proper album.
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I had two copies of Morrison Hotel. one was a standard like 1990 edition. and the other was an expanded edition. well one day I took the standard case to a used cd store and sold it not really needing it. years later I open the expanded edition jewel case to find out for some reason the standard edition was put in the expanded edition jewel case by mistake.
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Both bands were great but very one dimensional. It is really hard to listen either band for long periods.
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I've caught wind of some of Pete Townshend's issues, but haven't paid full attention to them, as I just want to enjoy his amazing music. Nothing against the Doors; I've never really listened to them. But the Who, with two good songwriters, and everyone an ace at whatever he did? Yes.
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"Lifehouse" wasn't intended to fall between "Who's Next" and "Quadrophenia". "Who's Next" was assembled from the remnants of "Lifehouse" after the project was abandoned. So essentially, it's "Lifehouse" condensed. And though it may only be bits and pieces of a bigger concept, it's still an amazing album. Hands down their best after "Quadrophenia".
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I give you Lifehouse: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z9nXrpZ_5WxZfKW6pFc0YbQKXKuLXHoZ It only felt right to stick with studio versions, but truth be told, there's nothing that compares to the Isle of Wight 1970 performance of Heaven and Hell. Perhaps a bonus track one day :D P.S. - these are the best mixes of these songs. Like, Long Live Rock is the guitar mix, not the piano mix (if you're into such nuances); and Naked Eye is the original Odds 'N Sods version, not the Astley remaster where everything was all f***ed up.
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That's pretty fucking cool. Never knew the full list and order of songs.
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And for that brief moment, we were one...
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I have a subscription for Dave's Picks and glad I do. I have had to call about something, I ordered, and had someone on the phone that was "almost" impossible to understand. I agree with one of the people who, earlier, made a comment that you use to call the dead number and get a person who spoke....English.My nephew worked for Dell for years and said that when the company started using non-Engilish services to answer peoples questions about their computers it was the beginning of the end for Dell. Maybe it is time for us, as coustomers of Rhino, to start to complain about their phone service. I think, from the comments posted on this site, that it is VERY poor! If you have not had any issues that required a phone call consider yourself...lucky!! Mr. Pete---------> aging hippie
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Well at least I subscribe every year, I was going to get extras in hopes to sweeten trade for the new box/RSD, if I I miss out on those, the gentle sobbing and ghostly moaning you will hear on the evening wind...that's me. Im already anticipating a shit show on ordering. My baseline anxiety levels waiting for new boxes and the inevitable panic inducing ordering process grows every year. Did anyone have any ordering problems besides the fast sell-out. It would be nice if they fixed the server issues, or just put out on the Rhino site for ordering to start.
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I don't know about comparing The Who with The Doors-but both bands seemed to peak in their earlier years. The Who, to me, were far better in the 1960s than they were in the 1970s. In the 60s, there was nothing like them-and the songs they wrote were genuinely weird and transgressive. In the 1970s, they stopped being revolutionary-and started writing about being revolutionary. In the 60s they were the thing they wrote about being in the 1970s, when they just seemed to join the massive "rock" industry. High on professionalism and power and guitar solos, but lacking in inspiration. A lot of other bands were like that-great in the 60s, but a bit bloated in the 70s. You've only got to look at Pink Floyd. I'd take See Emily Play over any of their 1970s albums any day. To bring it back to The Dead, maybe they were one of the few bands around in the 60s who carried on developing in the 1970s. Maybe The Stones, too, for a couple of years.
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daverock I would agree with your statement about the Who, if you had said the change in their quality occurred after 1973; however, the Who of the 1970s produced Who's Next and Quadrophenia. The synths used on Baba O'Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again were the first of its kind, not only in sound (Townshend had to "invent" the tone of the synths on WGFA through creative experimentation, eventually feeding a Lowry organ through an ARP synthesizer); but in implementation as well (nobody had really used a synthesizer to create a rhythm backing track in a song before - pioneer type stuff). For that many can be thankful :D But yeah, things grew stale after Quadrophenia. I suspect even Pete would admit by 1978, they were singing the same old song (with a few new lines) ;-)
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