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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Lovemygirl
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    ...Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead 1987 Tour...The Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead 1987 Tour was a concert tour by Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead taking place in the summer of 1987 and consisting of six concerts. Each concert began with one or two lengthy sets by the Grateful Dead of their own material (sometime broken into a first and second set, per the Dead's usual practice), followed by a roughly 90 minute set of the Dead acting as Dylan's backup band. :) ...bring on the complete recordings boxset ! ;)
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    I should say also, that both the last two 77 shows I have listened to have gone to places I wasn't expecting. The Uncle Johns I mentioned, on the 11th, and also Not Fade Away and Comes a Time on 12th. The playing, after the song parts have been completed is mesmeric on both tracks. I also found myself listening to, and enjoying, Keith's playing more than I was expecting. And now I see that Cornell is being re-released on vinyl. Incidentally, 8th May 1911 was the date Robert Johnson was born.
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    I know what you guys mean. 1969 is wild and wooly whereas 1977 is the awesome power of a fully operational mothership. But the dead were never smooth and professional. Case in point: I listened to 5/7/77 last night. Between the first 4 or 5 songs there is the sound of hammers repeatedly hammering nails into the drum platform. And you know the breaks between songs were much longer than on the releases. The Stones are smooth and professional. Can you picture carpenters building a drum stage during a Stones concert? But that's part of the charm of the Dead and is much preferable to a pre-planned scripted concert and is why we seek out every show.
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    LMG, spring 87....went to the Hampton through Rectum shows, actually had tix for the Wuuuster shows, but we sold em because we were burnt and honestly we were starting to get a bit disenfranchised with the scene (already beyond that nice peak I was trying to describe before...) and as you start to get older, sometimes your priorities shift. Unfortunately don’t recall many specifics from this tour.....it all rolls into one, and melts into a dream.... I do remeber thinking there was something missing musically? It was awesome that Jerry was back and looked good, and man that TOG the second night was powerful, but it was like he was out of sync or something. In fact, we occasionally noticed this phenomenon ever after the 86 coma. Luckily, as time went on, it was less often and more subtle. So our perception was that everything had kinda turned into white bread. This feeling actually progressed during summer tour, to the point that, combined with the venues chosen, led us to completely skip the fall tour! Blasphemy I know. Luckily that 3-27-88 show snapped us outta that funk a bit, and by summer 88 we were back on the bus. See this is kinda what I’ve been trying to get at with my recent posts, PERCEPTION! All the shows we get are precious, but they all contain something that someone could point out is flawed. Jerry’s voice, Brent, Donna etc etc., So although we all have favorites, we should not fall in ruts, or overgeneralize, or whatever to the point where people just don’t listen to whole eras of shows! I don’t care what year, there is always at least some hot shows, so why close your mind off and not even give these a chance? Remember, sometimes you get shone the light etc.. Here’s a funny example. For a long time (years ago), I wasn’t that into the 72 stuff. I was missinformed and not musically mature enough to get the big psychedelic jams and so forth. So I thought hell im not going to pay for more E72 cause hell I already have E72! Also, the few tapes we got back then from 72 were not usually very good (same with 73 and 74). Mostly fed 76-78s as a wee lad.... So I copped a misinformed attitude and didn’t check it out for a long time. Eventually after studying Jazz and improv and deveping my ears so to speak, I finally got it. So much so that I now can informatively argue that the E72 improve Dark Stars etc are some of the BEST music the band ever made and why! Bob speaks of post 75 about “we had songs we wanted to get out there” and the jams took too much time etc....well my argument is yes the songs ARE great, but a lot of bands have great songs.... But NOBODY! has ever played that kind of far out improv jazz like music (in rock) like the Dead. Yeah, yeah I love fusion and the rest, but it’s not the same. The ability to completely let it dismantle, but somehow stay together and interesting. Nobody else could do that, that I’ve ever heard so far... No offense, but most of the “Jam” bands and music since is often nothing more than individuals ceaselessly noodling. Yes there is a difference, number one being group improve versus individual.... That’s the main reason 77 is not my favorite. (I love it, but it’s not my favorite!) IMHO, 76-78 often just drones on in modes, with one person soloing over the top, where say E72 and 69 etc there is much more group improv going down...Again, we’re talking degrees here, not black or white! So my point of all this, and the last couple days is, if you overgenralize and cant overlook certain flaws or variables or what not, it is truly a shame, because we’re so blessed to have access to SO much amazing unique music! Even mid-nineties late era shows always have something. Sure there may not be a lot of hot entire “shows”, but there always are at least moments, and for this old duffer those moments are still worth the time and effort to try and someday check as much of the music from ALL eras as possible!!! Ok, thanks for letting me get this out, it’s been festering for awhile and why i started to post again after many years. It just bums me out to no end when I see folks here being nasty and judgmental based on closed mindedness. Remeber, be GRATEFUL!!! Ok, Smithers, release the hounds....I can already here it, “yeah but....”
  • Cousins Of The…
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    That same song also has the line: "I'd rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log, than being here in Atlanta treated like a dirty dog" which the Dead used in early renditions of I Know You Rider, changing Atlanta to Frisco.
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    first "Water into Wine" reference, first Playin jams...
    The Bible was written 1500+ years ago, so I'd say the first musical "water into wine" reference is likely about that old, but the bootleg is probably a bit hissy.... First Playin' jams were in '69, then just called "The Main Ten jam" before Bob had fully written the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP6jAWEqRhU
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    ...the number one best seller book in the world, The Bible. the second being ‘The Joy of Sex / Karma Sutra :) Ha ha lol ....Make love not war! Have a grateful day everyone :)
  • KeithFan2112
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    I'm going to have to go ahead and
    "merge" the Dark Star track with the Mind Left Body track on Dick's Picks 19. I'm kind of feeling like this should have been done at the outset. The Dark Star from Dick's Picks 36 contains mind left body, and I think there may be a couple of other Dark Stars that contain it as well (10/25/73 is ringing a bell). so should this one. That will be tonight's project. May the never be separated again.
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    Does anybody else notice the massive amount of low-end / bass on this Buffalo box set recording? It makes me wonder if Jeff Norman also did some bass enhancement on this show. I can't turn the equalizer down low enough to make it bearable on my car stereo system.
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    I was thinking of May 1977 shows when I made that comment. And the fact that I had been listening to the Shrine 1967 show, Fillmore West 1969 and the Binghamton and Fillmore East 1970 shows immediately prior to dropping in on May 1977. 1967-1970 sounds a lot rougher round the edges than the May 77 shows-11th and 12th are the ones I played. I like them- the Uncle Johns on the 11th with Jerry's solo at the end are top draw-but the shows generally seem a bit gentler somehow than the earlier ones. Bob used to joke on stage in 1977 about getting things just exactly perfect.. Maybe the medium should also be taken into account-some of the 67-70 shows I listened to were on vinyl whereas the 77 shows I have got are all on cd. That also applies to seeing them live. It can't help affect your perceptions of the music if you actually went on tour with them. To me,1985 is purely represented on disc. I never saw them in 1985. In fact, there was so little information about them in England round about that time, that I assumed they must have split up!
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Dicks Picks 12 Not even close. So fluid and unique. I can't think of any other version of a single song the band performed that surpasses all the other versions by such a wide margin.
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It was a trick question.. I was just looking for a new, good one I had not listened to before. ..as for the best Eyes.. Louisville.
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.... because you know it to be true. Holly Bowling is aces.
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I really don't know what is going on in Utah that you are referring about. Utah isn't above federal law either. I don't think people should go to prison either (prison and jail are two different things) but at the same time I really don't feel too bad if someone does cuz laws are not that hard to follow they really aren't. I mean people say its not addictive or habit forming but theres a law saying its illegal and people still do. so if it isn't, then its kinda boiled down to this: I'm having a REALLY hard time following this particular law and I'm getting in trouble cuz of it so it needs to be taken out lol.
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If you are not in favor of people going to jail, then you are arguing for decriminalization.. which basically means legalization. The alternatives involve jail time, one way or the other.
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So true.. but my favorite Eyes just so happens to be the one she plays on this video. Brings back memories. Now back to the best China Rider. Certainly more fun than discussing going to jail.
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No separation of church & state. The church is the state. one of us...one of us...one of us...
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....my take on Utah is/was their beer laws. Used to be you couldn't serve beer in that state above 3.5 ABV or some nonsense like that. And you could only have one drink on your table at a time. Now they brew some pretty strong brews. Holly is always on my radar for a show here. Yet to happen. She does a really, really good Terrapin Suite too. Busted her Better Left Unsung CD just now. Yup. Still grate. She tickles some pretty sweet Phish ivory keys as well....ala Tahoe Tweezerhttps://youtu.be/zxBJBAFcmSY
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....if anyone can show me a better one than '74 Providence, I'm all ears. Go on. Impress me. 420 smoking session will commence soon. I think I'll listen to some more King Crimson while I'm at it. Why knot?
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- '76 is definitely awesome. Caught me by surprise when the Betty's came out. A much slower burn, but some great moments, especially if you don't look in the usual places....- weed - no shame in saying no. - edibles.... convenience and stealth factor is a plus, but the delayed onset and the slow arc of the buzz kinda drones on (especially compared to the usual initial head-rush and then slow taper). Edibles are a commitment. - YES the 6/26 DP12 China>Rider melts lead - insanely good. A personal fav of mine is 12/1/79. - GD Fillmore vinyl - great idea. These shows are among the most amazing recordings of the 20th century. 2/27 and 2/28 are two of the best shows ever recorded. And the other two are similarly brilliant and make for a solid4-how box.
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....that 420 is the smallest number easily divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 but not easily divisible by 8th's? I know right? That's what I said....
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no separation of church & state? that's bullshit. if they have no separation of church & State then their churches can start paying taxes. i'm sure it has everything to do with those polygamous cults.
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Methinks VGuy's IQ went up several points since Vegas went legal. Not that he wasn't very smart before, just an observation.
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....I've been through southern Utah. Pretty weird vibe I had while I was there. Just kept driving. Faster.
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after watching some of that polygamy cult show on A & E, I would drive fast too vguy its creepy ass shit. I wouldn't feel safe there I would be pissing my pants if my car broke down in that area
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....I'm better at math whilst high. I know right? That's what I said!....outlawing porn? Good luck with that Utes.
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Avail as a 3CD set "Import" and it actually sounds pretty good.
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I am very glad I live in Washington state. if I can buy all the guns and ammunition I want (with constitutional blessing) and I can buy all the alcohol I want and I can buy all the tobacco I want then I am glad I can buy all the cannabis I want and smoke all the cannabis I want.
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I used quote marks for that cuz people say playboy is porn (it isn't....or at least not since I last checked)
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Hi All, I am diverting from the topic at hand just to mention that Deadbase 50 is on sale at Amazon. There is a promo code to enter after you set up purchase- 50DEAD420. The code is for half off, so it comes out to $45, plus shipping. I think this is a great deal. This sale is is running from 4/19 through 4/21. I just came across it today and I put my order in. I thought I would pass it off to all of you since it was being discussed a few pages ago. I have been wanting to get this for a while, and I wanted share with all of you in case anybody else was in the market for it as well.
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What about Gainesville?
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.... Gainesville this, Gainesville that. Where's the Baked Alaska box? Hmmmm? Where's that? ;)....the 5.10.80 China -> Rider is pretty strong. Good call stolzfus. In fact, that entire second set looks tasty. No offense King Crimson. Squirrel!!
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I agree that the China > Rider for 6/26/74 (DP 12) is up there, especially because it starts off with a jam first then goes into the China Cat. I have also thought that the China > Rider from Veneta (8/27/72) was pretty incendiary (yay! Almost Famous reference!) and it served in many ways in my opinion as the launching point for that show. Another one I find to be pretty good is the version on The Grateful Dead Movie (10/17/74). It might be that the video aids to it for me, but that one comes off really well. Also the version from 5/6/80 which is Road Trips V.3 N.4. from my Alma Mater is another good one. First time I heard that was back in the tape trading days where I got an audience tape of that show. The audience tapes as well matrix mixes can add a different perspective on the show. I know many of you have commented on that before. On the tape I had, it was very easy to hear the interplay between the band and the crowd. I distinctly remember the crowd being very heightened and as Rider was peaking. After all the lyrics had been delivered, the band really rides the crowds excitement and pushed the crescendo both longer and louder. I don't own the Road Trips release of this show, which represents another one I should not have passed on, but given that I have not heard this in a long while. I will likely wait to until Real Gone reissues it as they are working their way backwards with the RTs, but I might need to visit the Archive to listen to the audience source soon.
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5.10.80 Hartford Civic Centersecond set . China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time -> Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Drumz -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia . Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Knight . Look at all those beautiful ->'s. stolzfus. You are da man! The Jim Wise recording I'm listening to features several firework explosions. A good one occurs in the middle of Comes A Time. Hard to beat a sweet aud. That Times -> Estimated segue was nice.
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This is easily if not best china cat/I know you riders in existence. They picked the delicate intro to perfection and this version out of all others was used for the final selection of Europe 72. Jim
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DP12 is also my no-brainer favorite but I also love DP10 (12/29/77) - it’s a powerful version, maybe because they hadn’t played it in a long time. Check out the “cool Colorado rain” part... makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck every time.
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Catching up.5-10-80 China->Rider. I've only got the second set but boy-oh-boy is it a doozey. Got mine from the good ole CAFE'. It's there if you're inclined. Get some :o) ...Europe '72 China->Rider is still my favorite.
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Got the box here in my local record store in germany for around 55€, quite a fair price Cheers and happy weekend
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The ones I can remember off the top of my head as being particularly great are also 26th June 1974 and 27th August 1972. Especially the film of the 1972 one at Veneta, which is probably my favourite film clip of the band. That or the Johnny B. Goode encore at Winterland New Years 1978. Generally, I like the 1972-1974 versions. (I'm back on China-Rider). The show I am listening to at the moment, Frankfurt 26th April 1972 features a good version. In fact it features a good version of everything played. The show is renowned for great versions of The Other One and Lovelight-but the whole show sparkles. Every time I play a show from this tour, especially after a break of a week or two, it seems like the best show of the run.
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It seems a bit pricey to me. There is only one store that has a copy near me, as far as I know, and that is about 40 odd miles away. I phoned up the shop this morning, and the girl I spoke to told me they only had the one. She said people had been queuing up outside since 4.00am this morning, and by the time I go there it would probably be gone. So I stayed home! I' be looking on ebay and Amazon now.
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Favorites: 5/3/72 2/28/73 3/23/74 6/26/74 12/1/79 7/17/89 4/1/90
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12/29/77
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Infant10/31/69 San Jose 12/31/69 Boston Tea Party 2/14/70 FE, NY 5/14/70 Merrimack, MO Adolescence 5/24/72 London 5/3/72 Paris 8/27/72 Veneta Teenager - really any from 73 through 74 6/26/74 Providence 6/22/73 PNE 2/9/73 Palo Alto 5/17/74 PNE 11/11/73 Winterland 10/20/74 Winterland Prom 12/29/77 Workingmans, paying the bills. 8/7/82 Alpine 10/10/82 Frost 6/15/85 Greek 10/18/89 Spectrum 6/17/89 Alpine (checking out 5/10/80 now, thanks all) Touch of Grey, Senior Years 6/16/90 Mountain View 9/20/90 MSG 4/1/90 Omni I think I left off a few 'musts'. Oh well.. it's nice out, I'm heading outside.. music in hand.
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ah... oft overlooked. VGuy reminded me last year to put this in rotation, and I did. It's on my favorite waterproof shuffle, which means it gets steady rotation during watersport activities. The whole show is simply classic.. a bright, quality China Rider, one of the best Lovelights of the tour (Lovelight > GDTRFB is stupendous), the only DS>TOO of the tour. What a show.. a 99.9 of 100 and a desert island must have. In fact.. I am grabbing the device that has this show on it, so it's getting hit in about an hour. A tip of the hat to SimonRob.
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Love the May 1980's, they are loose and slinky, and on fire! The growth of Stranger is intense. Weird, as I get older, and where I live, I do truly Feel Like a Stranger. Sojourn on my friends!
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But glue is still legal. Weed should be legal just as alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are. Some people are more prone to addictive personalities (and some choose gambling, skydiving, extreme sports, sex, etc to get their rush rather than substances) which is why it is necessary to have programs in place to help them overcome their addiction. But there are also many people who can use weed without moving on to crack, heroin, meth, etc. Those people shouldn’t be penalized because there are other people who couldn’t control themselves. (Just getting caught up on the posts, been a little busy lately) Got to run, found a record store that is holding a FW vinyl for me......
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As north-west Europe currently basks in record-breaking temperatures (up to 29 C / 84 F) it is hard to believe just how cold it was at Bickershaw 46 years ago. Global warming? Jus' kiddin'. At least by the last day the weather had relented, even if it remained horribly cold. A fine selection performed that day: Brinsley Schwartz, Country Joe McDonald, The New Riders and our heroes. Check out Brinsley Schwartz if you have never heard their music. Mr. Schwartz himself and Bob Andrews subsequently became members of Graham Parker's excellent Rumour while Nick Lowe went on to solo success. As always at large gatherings, Country Joe's Fish Cheer got the crowd going. The sunny California sounds of the New Riders would have been better in Californian temperatures, but nothing could stop the Dead producing a top-notch performance for many hours, but it seemed to be over far too soon. A memorable day indeed.
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Took me a while and I did not check all numbers...but divisible by 8ths, too funny! We be connected, so the days of crazy 8ths is long gone. Speaking of which I got to try shatter a few weeks back. One toke over the line indeed. I told my buddy a few days later, I thought I was going to have to call the ambOlence. He had something called a nectar collector. First time I had seen that contraption, just wow. Smoking Crater indeed. https://www.ebay.com/i/273127230622?chn=ps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj96Tau44OA
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I don't own a turntable, but I went down and picked up a copy anyway. The guy recommended Jeff Buckley. Anybody ever heard his stuff?
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Jeff was Tim Buckley’s son. I’d recommend Tim over Jeff, as he had a much broader, more diverse and interesting catalogue:Studio albums Tim Buckley (1966) Goodbye and Hello (1967) Happy Sad (1969) Blue Afternoon (1969) Lorca (1970) Starsailor (1970) Greetings from L.A. (1972) Sefronia (1973) Look at the Fool (1974) Live albums Dream Letter: Live in London 1968 (1990) Peel Sessions (1991) Live at the Troubadour 1969 (1994) Honeyman: Live 1973 (1995) Once I Was (1999) Copenhagen Tapes (2000) Live at the Folklore Center 1967 (Tompkins Square, 2009)
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All the E72 DarkStars are unique of course. Bickershaw just SOUNDS outdoors and muddy and extra loosey goosey. Maybe that Star-Other One has the most free "space" of any E72 show?! Sweet stuff.
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