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  • mkav
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    Hey Graceful...congratulations on the contract offer. I can't wait to read the final product.

    I read an interview with Weir in which he envisioned the artists being able to control the visuals somehow, with real-time interaction. I won't pretend to understand the technology, but neither will I underestimate it. I'm sure it will happen.

    You made an astute observation about the shows. We, and most people in our section, were watching the screen more than we watched the stage. Often, the stage was projected onto the screen. Imagine Mayer and Weir 100' tall!

  • Graceful_Dead
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    Hey MKAV,
    Thanks for taking the time to write. I feel I have a better sense of what went on.

    I watched lots of YouTubes; some with better camera work than others, but on a BIG screen at home you get some feeling for it. And can hear the crowd all oooh and aaaah together. Interesting to me how often the visuals were so bright that it did not look resemble the darkened concert hall that we are all so used to.

    Must be a very different experience for the performers to not have every eye locked on them. At times they appear to be playing accompaniment for the visual, as you have said.

    As for the timing of the musical transitions: it is my impression that as the run went on, the band id more adjusting to the visual, and not the other way around. Clearly the technology is not yet there to be quite interactive (like different color swirlies reacting to individual instruments); my sense is that the band knew the plan for the big visual transitions and they could tread water a little as needed to make the music transition match the visual. Just my view from the free seats.

    And PS: I just received a third contract offer for my book manuscript, Thanks for your support.

  • mkav
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    I'm wondering if any fellow SSDDers made it to Vegas and if so, I'd like to hear others' observations. I got to see one show 8/9.
    It was maybe the 4th or 5th time I've seen D&Co. The band was definitely "on". Tight. Not overly meandering with slow, pointless noodling, (Dallas in May 2023 actually was pretty bad in that respect). Better tempo than previous shows. The pace on most songs and jams was spot-on IMO.
    I have to imagine timing the ends of songs to coincide with the visuals' changing was a challenge, but it was seamless.
    Going there was a hassle and expensive, but I'm really glad I went. The band was really good. Boy, that Johnny B. Mayer can play!
    Having said that: the venue overshadowed the band IMO. Between the 168,000 speakers delivering pure, crisp sound to every seat, and the massive 3.7 acres worth of very cool visuals, it would have been hard to not put the venue as the highlight. YouTube videos are nice but really can't capture the magnitude.
    We had seats in 4th level, right in the middle. I can't imagine a better seat for the visuals. The sound was perfect. A friend was in a lower section and he related the "experience" was cooler down in 100 level, but the visuals were much better higher up.

    Anyway, IF they do it again, AND I can financially swing it next time, I'll definitely go again. If your circumstances allow it, I'd encourage you to go, too.
    By the way: my "mind-altered" state was not dramatic at all, but the visuals were so large, so intense and just so cool, at times it felt like a hallucination...in a good way.
    Las Vegas is and never was my thing, but the overall show made it worth it. Shakedown Street definitely had a "corporate" feel to it, but there a shroom sales lady there...very low key...so at least we had that going for us; which is nice. No veggie burritos, though.

  • Graceful_Dead
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    I must have sung along to Tennessee Jed 1,000 times without it ever dawning on me that the first lines refer to an incarcerated person. “Listen to the whistle of the evenin' train” really evokes the character in Johnny Cash’s song who is stuck in Folsom Prison.

  • Oroborous
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    Saw 90 & 91
    Enjoyed them all!
    Really liked 91.
    Still think a show or two from there could be part of a very nice fall 91 box.
    Fond memories camping out with the GF at the time, getting down to the nearby whale cries from Sea World or what ever it was?

    GOGD turned us onto the fine 92 shows, especially the stellar 6/8/92.
    Haven’t heard 3/14/93 yet, recall the fall shows were so so
    Haven’t heard 3/20/94 yet, but WTJ turned us onto the enjoyable 3/21/94.

    Being from WNY it’s weird we never hit a Cleveland Dead show (Cleveland Rocks!) but saw everywhere else around there.

  • mkav
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    oops..sorry about the double-post.

    Agree 100% on the first post-Brent shows (rather "show" as I only got to see the 2nd one).

    I saw many shows in Richfield 1990 - 1994. Always a decent vibe IMO even for a Coliseum. I lived close by, my family included 2 little boys so could not travel but did make a point to see as many as I could in Richfield.

  • mkav
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    Agree 100% on the first post-Brent shows (rather "show" as I only got to see the 2nd one).

    I saw many shows in Richfield 1990 - 1994. Always a decent vibe IMO even for a Coliseum. I lived close by, my family included 2 little boys so could not travel but did make a point to see as many as I could in Richfield.

  • Graceful_Dead
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    Another 50th Anniversary

    This October will be the 50th anniversary of the first set of farewell concerts.

    How many have there been since then?

    Appropriate time for the Kennedy Center honor

  • daverock
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    Spiral Light was good

    That really moved things up a gear for me with The Dead. Not just the magazine, with it's great reviews, articles and news items, but also because through them I was able to access tapes. In fact, if I am a Deadhead, I would date it from about 1987, when this happened. Up to that point I had all the official albums and the odd bootleg, but from then on I was getting tapes delivered regularly. And once you discover one source, others seem to open up too. Great stuff!

  • Oroborous
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    My bad

    I didn’t look up, but I think I mixed up the Pranksters trip.
    Thanks for correcting and straightening out the ole synapses lol
    Now that you mention about/for the millennium etc…and not in 90…

    And also, now that mention, Brent’s passing probably would have added to the energy factor. We were at the first shows in Richfield with Vince after Brent’s much too early demise, and there most definitely was a lot of extra energy.
    A lot of what now and uncertainty and ?
    Will it suck? Will it be good? Things had been steadily improving the last couple years before so there was a lot of anxiety or uncertainty.
    But man, once they started playing all that energy morphed into that big ole ball of “1” that everyone in the building became, and as the night progressed it was like you could feel 18K people all exhale in relief all at the same time, as we all realized that, “yeah, this is going to be different, but it’s gonna be alright” we will survive, we will get by!
    So I’m sure that must have been a variable too.

    Back to the bad actors thought. Again, I’m struggling to not be so ?
    I feel I’ve painted an overemphasis or oversaturated picture of people?
    Let’s think of it this way, it’s like BITD when grownups used to say “one bad apple spoils the barrel” meaning, most certainly most of the folks at shows were like the good apples, but now there were more and more bad ones getting into the barrel. And though there weren’t so many relatively, the bad ones were now a whole new kind of bad that spread the rot more prominently. ?
    Hopefully that makes better sense?

    Edit: Or lol
    What BC just said ; )

    And perhaps the biggest factor was just sheer size like BC said.
    No matter what kind of head, there just were now too many for the scene to function healthy…

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As the Playing in the Band never got a proper re-visit on the last night of the summer tour in Wrigley, it would seem appropriate to open the Fall tour with a little taste of that. Whoaohwohoyeayeayeah! Though this Head would be thrilled with Shakedown as the traditional NY opener. Can you tell I am looking forward to this?
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Well there you go.Playing in the Band opened the fall, but out at the Band Together Bay Area show. That opens many possibilities for tomorrow night's opener.
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Missed the party on chat last night, and the show, here's the set list from MSG 11/12/17 Shakedown Street Greatest Story Ever Told Bertha Cassidy Beat It On Down the Line They Love Each Other Cumberland Blues Set 2 China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Ship of Fools Terrapin Station Drums Space Standing on the Moon The Other One Casey Jones
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[Hope 80sFan won't mind my reposting of his comments from last night]: Saw Dead and Company at the Garden last night. Really fun, high-energy show. Awesome Shakedown to kick things off. John Mayer ripped through a fantastic Bertha a few songs later. Yes, i might have just been in the moment, but this version truly blew the roof off the place. I believe Greatest Story Ever Told and BIODTL made their Dead and Co debut in the first set. Both great and the crowd responded in kind. Took a few minutes to get on the same page, but the Cumberland to close the set was very nice as well. Cool China>Rider to open the second set. Bobby didn't seem super confident vocally until the transition (to be expected i guess) but still really fun and the Rider pay-off was worth it. Ship of Fools was played for only the 3rd time and it was a nice surprise to hear Oteil sing a verse or two. What a fantastic voice! Terrapin got the crowd worked up - my only wish was that Bobby would let Mayer sing the whole song. I think he's a better fit for this one. Post drums was just ok. TOO was fun but the band saved a couple surprises for the encore, playing Samson and Werewolves of London. Great way to end the show and send thousands of new yorkers (and folks like me from the great state of NJ) home happy. I loved being back in the Garden - it was fun seeing some old friends from back in the day and meeting their spouses, kids, etc. Just an amazing night all around. This is definitely not an oldies act. There is REAL energy and magic both on stage and in the crowd. Please see this band. I last saw them 2 years ago and they have drastically improved even since then.
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Hey Oat Man,Glad to hear from you. At first I thought your message meant that you had come up to the big city, but now I see you are re-posting from another. But there was a Daydreamers moment at the Garden Sunday night: I spotted Tom Hanlon a few rows in front of me. That little red cowboy hat is hard to miss. AND he had his pic-a-nic T-shirt on. A highlight for me was the debut of authentic O-bombs: at the appropriate spots in Bertha, and then in the bass run-up to The Other One. Ba-ba-ba BWAAMMM!! Shook the dump to its foundations. Good times, good times.
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Cool you scored a Red Hat Sighting. That 2nd set had a bunch of A list songs. Here's the set list from setlist.fm. Set 1: 1. Hell in a Bucket 2. Cold Rain and Snow 3. Me and My Uncle 4. Brown-Eyed Women 5. Tennessee Jed 6. Bird Song 7. Man Smart, Woman Smarter Set 2: 8. Help on the Way 9. Slipknot! 10. Franklin's Tower 11. China Doll 12. Estimated Prophet 13. Drums 14. Space 15. A Love Supreme 16. Stella Blue 17. St. Stephen 18. Not Fade Away Encore: 19. U.S. Blues
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Here's wishing you all a very wonderful Christmas. Hope Santa leaves you some Dead music under the tree! Peace, GOB
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all the lights are shinin on a bright red cowboy hat at 4:45 of that clip, but that hat looks bigger than the one I saw at MSG. Maybe for home games he brings the big hat? But here's to Summer '18 tour!! Pre-sales registration by Friday.
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the rrrgrrr I knew would not have appeared in public without an avatar
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Godspeed to all our Compadres heading to Mexico this week!! Have fun, stay safe, take pictures! XO, Anita
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That's right the krazy klown is back... Can't find the bus though. RGIGGLES where are you?!
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I always knew that from the first time I met y'all in Santa Clara and Chi-town. Took me a while to find our location in the forum.
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...but at least we know how the song goes. Bought a new Miata a couple years ago and there have been some new model growing pains. Been spending all my allocated forum time on Miata.net hence my absence. Not running for mayor again (permanently retired), but missed y'all so had to check back here. Going to D&C at Shoreline again this year, on July 3...(really looking forward to that!)
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Where's that confounded bridge?!
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So bad you had to change you name, eh? I forgive you whatever it is that you did. That is, after all, what family does.
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..BACK AT YA ASL!
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Lovely to see you again my friend. I can give you a DM on the rgr saga. Only if you really want to know.
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Good to show my klown face again. (Sure, send me a PM I am definitely curious.)
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i have not heard...how was the time on the beach? I just heard third hand from son's friend...was awesome, but no details.
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Two guideposts of my musical world will be at Lockn Festival in August: George Clinton brings the Mothership Connection to the hippies on Friday night,and Dead and Co do two sets on Saturday and Sunday. Is it crazy to think that Dr. Funkenstein could join the boys for a number? Be still my heart.
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Happy Dyngus Day to all the Daydreamers.
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love the lyrics to this song. no clue what it "means" but it is fun to listen to. has been one of my favorites since the beginning for me.
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The calendar has turned over again, so we are in countdown to SUMMER TOUR!! Hee yah We got two nights in Camden and two nights at Lockn. Bring it ON !!
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Are we ready? See you down the road or at a couch stop here or there.
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Hey now SSDDers! I trust everyone's been soaking up plenty of summertime Dead & Company (in person or vicariously á la couch). Sounds like Geo's got the bus warming up. Less than twelve days til I saddle up the palomino and head out to Albuquerque for the final leg of 2018's Summer Tour. Anybody else going to be at Albuquerque? What about the Boulder shows? . . . In the meantime, looking forward to listening to the west coast run starting tonight. Onward!
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I ran into the Devil, babeHe loaned me twenty bills I spent that night in Utah In a cave up in the hills
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because it was really, really nice to be in my own bed instead of slogging across the parking lot with a long drive to come when the music stopped. You youngsters have fun out there!
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Would it offend anyone if I said that there were other musical acts at Lockn that I enjoyed more than DeadCo ? Part was just novelty (Turkuaz and Pigeons etc were all new to me); part was style (I have been a true funk soldier in Uncle Jam's army about as long as I have been a Head); I had hoped that the time with the Meters and the general atmosphere would have brought out a funkier Dead, particularly on Big O's side; part was that night one of the Dead seemed like a Christmas sermon, more for the occasional visitor than for regulars. Kind of tried and true material. Add the bar was set very high for guitar playing after 2 nights of Derek Trucks (what did that guitar ever do to him?); Joe Russo, Blackbyrd McKnight, and the dude who played Zeppelin covers for Umphrey. But also we bailed before the "third set" with Lettuce that went on to the wee hours; so we missed something that maybe they held back. We also kept in the back of our minds what John M had said in his "Tales" interview beforehand: it you don't "get" Night One of a two-nighter, just stay tuned. Second night was awesome, opening like a second set would: meandering and easing into Playin'. The graphics and imagery were a treat. And US Blues is back in a big way. The event itself was a smash hit. This was our first festival and we were delighted by the logistics and the crowd. 30,000 friends and neighbors for 3 nights and we never so much as heard one person raise their voice at another. You know our Love will NOT FADE AWAY. PS I had been agnostic on JRAD until we heard them midnight Friday. Wow. More oriented to the future than the past.
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some friends introduced me to some JRAD videos a while back; those guys are pretty great. I did love the Sunday Dead & Co show. REALLY loved Branford, as always.
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~SALE SALE~ BOB WEIR BOSTONNov. 15 .Sec BALCLC, Row V, Seat 1 USD $76.40 take $59.50. Nov. 16 Balcony Center Row P | Seat 23 $134.50. take 104.50 Also have Nov. 16 Parking pass for $122.35. Will take 99.00 or just something. Add it free with purchase of Nov 16 tix. It was mixed in5. Will take 99.00 or just something. Add it free with purchase of Nov 16 tix. $420 Alaska Air non stop round trip PDX and Boston.
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Hey, here is a great little project to support. https://deadheadstories.org/ Cool concept, righteous folks, remembering the past, honoring the present and paying it forward. They are like minded ladies and gents who got creative and put together something real nice...2500 stories so far, with maybe ten percent or so going into the first book. All volunteer, all proceeds go to seed Rex, Seva and like minded foundations. If you have an extra buck or three, feel free to donate to their non-profit. If you're brave or curious or want a cool read this fall or a great present for later, spring for a book. If your ship came in, and the cargo is wearing you down, perhaps a small donation to lighten your load would be appropriate. All good and pretty amazing, just like SD'ers everywhere... Cheers,cya down the road g
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anyone going? I got tix. gonna be hot...in every way

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The Mrs. and I will be making our first Western Dead venture to Boulder.
There must be a reason they like to close summer tours there, and we intend to find out what is.

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Hey MKav...we be there, missed you last year, but we have killer floor seats on Johnny's side; be a great time to meet you brother...promised not to throw a party this year or rent a party bus; sure was fun last year!

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yeah, we missed the party in Dallas in 17. I now live in San Antonio, so it's a ROAD TRIP!