Grateful Dead

the only thing I know about vinyl is I'm not all that interested in it anymore. when I was buying it i was buying it from independent small labels at the time cuz it was kitschy with me and retro this was when vinyl was gone from major label releases you wouldn't find it in stores and I was fascinated even though our turntable was broke. I think some of mine are probly worth something to someone as they all mostly out of print. and it didn't cost nearly as much then either. I could get a vinyl format I think for about 7-8 bucks then. this was like early 2000's

Aren't they pressed against the same master so the depth of the groove that the needle tracks is the same? I did some research after asking the difference earlier in this thread and was blown away by the potential can of worms from a turntable geek perspective - tracking, height alignment (vat) due to thickness of the record - wow was not my intention, just want to educate myself and get feedback from fellow bus riders. Besides that technical stuff that my low end turntable does not have, it seems that the thickness will provide deeper base because of the heavier "substrate" - not sure about the specifics and don't want to start a heated debate but figured I'd reply back. Still giving it some thought. Is the durability due to the thickness will plane flatter so less inclined for the needle to skip? of the thicker the disc, the less chance of warpage?

Nice post, Spacebrother. I never understand people kicking you and Unkle Sam and some of the rest of the crotchety old fuckers here square in the balls - I really don't. As I have said before, if we all painted with the same brush it would be boring as hell. Nice people, well, some of them have no balls at all, and I'd rather hang out with raging alcoholics than teetotalers. For the color, if nothing else. Rhino is going to do what they're going to do and we're all just going to have to live with it. Everyone here is brought together by a shared love for Jerry Garcia and the music, that continues, in various forms... in some degree or another. Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel... \m/

Actually that's a better analogy than mine for the 140 v 180. To me it was/ is less about sound than durability of the medium

Silver CDs vs gold CDs. A lot of people claimed that the gold Dark Side of the Moon sounded better. I never heard it so I don’t know

All this for a show that's not even the best of that month!

I'll say again because it unfortunately needs to be said People With Integrity Care.And those who understand what giving your word means. Who knows maybe Rhino will eventually give in but so far they have shown integrity. As for ebay once again yea to them. I have to use them every rsd since I work on Saturdays. Not to mention all my other record collecting. I have every GD release going back to day one and will never sell any of it. This year I accidentally bought 2 subs. Rather than chance losing both trying to cancel 1. My nephew is the beneficiary of that mistake. Point being in case you missed the point the 1st time. It ain't about making a killing for those of us who oppose reissuing ltd ed it's about one's word. As for vinyl 180 gram vinyl will always hold its value v. 140 gram. An analogy might be silver discs v. Burnables

i think the most I played vinyl in forever was last summer where I played nirvana's Bleach two times in a row. and some people were NOT happy about it lol.

I do find it interesting how much people are reselling the old CD boxes for but if people are willing to pay that much more power to the open market of selling them I'm happy to see this get a 2nd pressing because I missed out on the first and am now happy to be able to play this on vinyl and wear it down over the years - no intent to collect just to listen and enjoy! I did have to buy the FW69 LP set on eBay but I still feel it was a reasonable price at $75.

First off, it seems that most who are complaining about reprinting limited edition releases are those who resell these. Those reselling the 1st vinyl printing for $180+ now have to compete with a cheaper option and aren't going to be as profitable in second hand markets. While "all music edition" versions of re-releases of box sets is another point that sets people off. My view is that this music should be made available to anybody and everybody who wants it, especially that damn FW '69 box. Just re-release it. Who cares if some schmucks on Ebay won't get the $500+ they want out of selling them secondhand. I've subscribed and collected dave's picks from the very first year, and wouldn't be at all upset if they decided to reprint all of those too. I would just hope that some of the shows that were chopped up into the bonus discs would be made available in their entirety. I haven't really been a vinyl collector since the 80's, when most releases were still coming out in that format. I've acquired a handful in recent years, but never play them. $120 (let alone $80) for something that will degrade the first moment I place a needle on it doesn't really appeal to me. If it were something that's only available in the vinyl format, I would consider it, strictly to play once to transfer to digital, then listen to that copy exclusively. otherwise they are just pricey cardboard sleeves and boxes that serve as tchotchkes. I suppose if I had disposable income and plenty of space to display, I would get into them more. Back in the day I would buy brand new records for between $6 and $10 per vinyl disc. I think I bought my first brand new vinyl copy of E'72, a three record set for under $20. That being said, I'm still tempted to get 2/27/69 FW on vinyl because I missed out on the FW '69 box, and am glad that at least they are up to reprinting them finally. Would prefer a reprinting of the CD box though. There is a certain warmth to vinyl though, if you don't mind the snaps, crackles and pops. Extra caution and care is required, short of keeping ones turntable in a perfectly dust free sterilized environment, free of vibrations that can cause the needle to jump out of it's groove and scratch up your $180 secondhand vinyl purchase. I still prefer physical media over digital though, unless it's a USB. If there were to be a massive powergrid failure, and one doesn't have solar panels, then I would consider going back to vinyl with those old-fashoioned hand crank-style spring-loaded record players with the oversized speaker cone. Music listening for the Amish.