• 2,395 replies
    heatherlew
    Default Avatar
    Joined:

    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • reijo29
    Joined:
    JimMd how on earth are we going to find the car?
    I had that same moment at the Centrum in Worcester Massachusetts spring 1987. Yet mine was a bit more paranoid. I kept saying to my buddy we will never find the car or New York again. Forced my buddy to leave with me during drums. The car was there. Tried driving and I felt like I was driving into a ditch, I was not. Stopped immediately. Finally came down a bit and basically my little Datsun 280z helped to jump start a bunch of Heads’ stalled cars and vans. About 4am I was able to drive down the Massachusetts Turnpike going 25 miles per hour in the right lane. Heck of a trip
  • stoltzfus
    Joined:
    13thFE
    easter everywhere's slide machine...I was listening to that a few years ago while driving on very icy roads, going to pick up my wife. "slide machine" "trying to get back to you" it fit the moment very well.
  • JimInMD
    Joined:
    Re: Albert Hoffman, Bicycle Day, My First Show
    Thanks for all the on-point posts today.. Shirdeep's bicycle post was a revelation to me.. so my first dead show (4/19/82), which happened to be my strongest psychedelic show (young and perhaps had one above my limit) was on the anniversary of the infamous bicycle ride on April 19th, 1943. The space from that show in particular, Raven Space in honor of Edgar Allan Poe as the show was in Baltimore was especially fun and gooey. I've given a show report from that night before.. the synopsis - on the way to our seats, who is this nice young gentleman under the stairwell making eye contact? Doses, yes please. First set.. very good. Second set, goodness I can no longer feel my hands. Raven Space, madness mayhem, then how on gods green earth are we going to find the car. More mayhem.. driving home with a taper meant we had to endure that Space again.. my nerves are shot and I can't take it anymore.. home and alive, up all night, school already. ahhhh.. The joys of youth. 1982 is a bit of a sleeper year.. a good year and under-rated albeit the recordings suffer a bit. So bicycle day was my first show. 36 years later, makes perfect sense.. I guess you could say part of the master plan.
  • daverock
    Joined:
    RSD vinyl-matchewy
    I am planning on getting the Feb 1969 show on vinyl that is being released on RSD, but I have no intention of going out to a shop to get it on Saturday. The nearest one is about 40 miles away, and the only time I went on this day there was a massive queue-so I didn't get in. I just assumed it would be available on Amazon for a while after the day of its release, and that I would be able to order it from them. All the other ones seem to have been.
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    Happy Anniversary Jim!!!
    Always loved that show. Not sure I have ever heard a board of it. I still have never had the thin board issue, I just sink in and go with it. Just go with it, man...
  • SkullTrip
    Joined:
    If You Have Ghosts...
    First discovered The Elevators' "Easter Everywhere" and Roky Erickson's "The Evil One" in college. It was love at first listen. They've both been in regular rotation ever since.
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    I have been
    A bad bad boy. Been doing so well on the Golden Road until about six weeks ago. I was at the local hippy hang out/restaurant about 6 weeks ago. I am full on shaggy, so shaggy, even a mother could not love it, me being it. I ask a young lady if she was going to sit at this table she responded back "No." I turned around and waited for the other couple of friends to show up. She turned around and asked me my name, I said "G", wink. She responded that she was Shauna. Shauna is a hospice nurse and she was brought in to stay with me over night after I got out of the hospital. She is so kind, she would sleep on the couch and all I had to do was call her cell phone and let it ring once and she would wake and tend to me. I was staying with family, so that kept the whole house from having to be awakened. She was there talking and laughing as I asked her, "how in the hell did you recognize me?" She responded "your eyes and your voice." So we are talking and all of a sudden a guy walks up and says, "G", wink. It was an old friend from childhood, a head that moved from my home town to San Fran back in 1986 or so. So then I asked him, "how in the hell did you recognize me?" He said he heard my voice laughing and booming across the restaurant. So anyway, he works for the red cross and also for hospice also. So then they hit if off and went on a long conversation for which I was basically a chair or stool or fool for lack of input. Well it turns out my friend Jim had moved to San Fran, then to Oregon then to Chicago, etc. but had now buried his mother and gad moved back home. He is a huge head. Not sure any can remember when we were having the WoS discussion back in early 2016 when Dave's Picks 17 came out. I discussed some of bear's thoughts, about him being in the air force, and how radar technology started him down the physics trail. I wrote about the owl and stereo and triangulation, etc. Different story for a different time. I also wrote about the WoS and the noise cancelling features and how they worked. I wrote about even BMW (???) had started to place microphones on the bottom of the car and then sending reverse sound wave, anti sound wave? laugh, back through the stereo system to cancel out the sounds of the car rolling down the road. One thing I discussed was Polk audio and how they were the first home stereo speaker system to use bear's research to create better stereo imaging. Jim had the Polk stereo system which had the noise cancelling system embedded. Still maybe the best stereo imaging I have ever heard. OK enough of that. This friend Jim is also a huge Zappa fan. As we discussed the fellas and Zappa and stuff he talked about seeing Dweezil and sound boards. So the reason I have been a little out of pocket is that he started feeding me some incredible Dweezil board tapes. Man that guy knows how to put out some tasty boards. I will explain more about that when we get on another Zappa tangent. I know many of you all are huge Zappa Freaks also. That is why I consider myself a bad bad boy...the Golden Road is never to be left for too long. A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    4 2 0
    IFC network is showing s t o n e r movies tomorrow, including C&C's Next Movie. Always loved that one. Today TCM is showing some interesting movies. Right now, "A Hard Day's Night" is on. I watched at "Having a Wild Weekend" staring the Dave Clark Five. I have also been rewatching some of the old Beach Movie's with Annette and all. TCM shows "Greenwich Village: The Music that defined a Generation," with interviews of Pete Seeger, Kris Kristofferson, Judy Collins, Arlo Guthrie at 6:15 Easter. It is short. Also tonight, they are showing "Hold On", destination way way way out, with Herman's Hermits.
  • takimoto
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    Oh
    And go Bruins! I’ve been watching them since early 70’s in the Orr Espo days and don’t ever remember them having this many good young players. They look might tough to beat.
  • Charlie3
    Joined:
    Nice Catch Stoltzfus
    I dig those 13th Floor Elevators, and particularly some of the lyrics. Easter Everywhere was background music on a lot of trips.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

8 years 1 month

The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

Take some blood pressure meds.At least the 3 hour time difference allows you to drink a lot and still feel ok tomorrow at work. Of course, there are still 2 periods to go. Skull trip, my comments weren’t directed at you. Just making the point that GD was not a one-man show.
user picture

Member for

10 years 8 months
Permalink

They've never really done a complete seasonal run for a box. May '77 wasn't complete, Europe was a tour, not "spring," and so forth. So the two seasonals possible in the '70s commercial sweet spot are Summer '73 (yay!) and Dave has said that a "fall '72" box is inevitable "at some point." I don't think Summer '76 would sell like '72 or '73 and they keep to that 1972-78 sweet spot for sales. They've really played out '77 and '78 within the past 2-3 years, presumably because there were many tapes in the returned cache from those two years. Thus, it was easy to put out a couple killer late '70s boxes and not dent the stash of rarer stuff. Admittedly, once they do a Summer '73 box -- defined by June-Labor Day -- that's a chunk of the chronology they cannot revisit. But it would give them a chance to lump an iconic show(s) -- Watkins Glen (great soundcheck, not stellar noon performance next day) -- with the hotter shows in June and late July/early August. 'Course, there'll be some screamin' in certain quarters, but I'll just put on the headphones and turn it up............
user picture

Member for

12 years 1 month
Permalink

Your season appears to have unraveled in the span of about 10 minutes.
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

We could just dose them all.. what could possibly go wrong? Weird.. as soon as I sent this there was a knock on the door. Who could it be at this late hour?
user picture

Member for

7 years 8 months
Permalink

You guys are absolutely right about it not being the same without Jerome John G. But, shit, it wasn't the same WITH him since ________ (pick a year in the 1980's). The drugs killed him, man, the hardest of fucking drugs and he was the hardest of partiers. There were still brilliant moments, tours, shows, songs... I thought that recent RFK mini-box was absolutely kick-ass! But as a guitar player and lover of all things guitar, Jerry the gunslinger on the whole E72 tour was just it - the pinnacle. The dude tossed in country, jazz, rock and blues licks all night every night and just brought it. With the Graham Nash Strat and modded-out Fender amps, whew. Didn't hurt having Bobby playing that hulking 335 behind him. Too bad Bob couldn't hear himself cut through the band. I certainly can. For a brief time, Jerry was a black leather jacket wearing, handsome, guitar gunslinging badass. His improvisational flights on the Dark Stars were from another world. He was channeling something pretty goddamn grand. Maybe God herself. He shone like a comet in full flight. Then, he resolved to become something else, something a little more selfish and less giving. It was never the same since, really, on exactly that high level of brilliant, intuitive guitarsmanship and overall band dynamic. I love 1973 through 1976, 1978, 1979... but at some point Garcia got a little lost and sloppy before nearly dying. And then, rising from the Dead. Love the guy. He's the catalyst, the whole reason anyone is here. But, the "Grateful Dead" carried on for a hell of a long time with half a Jerry Garcia. What's happening today is fresh, healthy - and inspired. I'm sorry if that doesn't get it for lots of old schoolers, but it is what it is.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....the fat lady may be tuning up during this game. Time to rip off three straight. Lol.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....I would have felt blessed to have seen him once, but once wasn't enough. I would drop everything back in the day to go to a show. Can't say that about anyone since. Anyone.
user picture

Member for

11 years 4 months
Permalink

icecrmcnkd: As has been discussed at length, FTW was a great romantic vision. But unrealistic to do 80 songs just one or two times with a guitarist who is new to the material - couldn't expect it to sound confident and sure. A series of linked recoveries and hold-your-breath transitions in key moments of most songs. Lot of it sounded like a rehearsal. It wasn't horrible, but far from "dialed in". And no I didn't go. And I don't hate Trey at all. I saw many a Phish/TAB show. Mad respect. FTW tour should have been called "Just the Tip". Just when it was getting interesting, it was over. The 4th or 8th version of all those songs would have had some AMAZING moments, but we can only imagine. LedDed: Well said! The decline was sad. I wish I could have seen him before my first show 6/17/1982 (JGB/Bobby & the News double bill) when he was LONG past "handsome leather jacket gunslinger" days. I was stunned at the person I saw onstage compared to every photo I had EVER seen.
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

I can't complain about the number of shows I saw.. except that I was not born earlier. I was persistent and perhaps a bit lucky - plus it was a bit more affordable back then and I could find a way to sleep anywhere for cheap or free. I am a bit soured by ticket prices since FTW.. and now I cannot sleep in the middle front seat of a standard transmission mini. Phil shows are still in the $75 range, which beats D&C. I boycotted the last tour because of $$$ but I am catching at least Blossom this go around. I am very happy they are still keeping on and I will still partake so long there is air flowing through my lungs and blood pumping in my brain (and apparently enough money in my wallet, not that I have forgotten how to be frugal). What's the alternative? Rap? I guess we could bring disco back.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....I would spend plenty a time not even facing the stage. My eyes would peruse the surrounding circus while auditorily enjoying the best background music ever made. That's me.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....I double post at times. Double taked a lot of visuals back then too. Did that really happen? Accept it Vince. It may or have not have. OK conscious. You are correct as always.
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

Sound like the ticket for your re-election, Senator. You are indeed correct.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

Yes it was brief and unrehearsed, but a lot of fun. Good point LedDed. Good points all. Couple days to recover Vguy.....
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

I thoroughly enjoyed the poorly marketed, over-priced FTW CDs and DVDs. I even liked Phil's 1960's take at Santa Clara. I did enjoy it.. its a rare glimpse into The Trey - GD window. I did not go because I couldn't justify the expense compared to everything I had going on that year. Still glad they did it. Again, what was the alternative, do nothing? Naa…. Could they have done it better? Probably.. but that is personally true for me every day I have ever lived, except three.
user picture

Member for

11 years 4 months
Permalink

Totally! Wish I coulda: great tunes, great friends, road trip, 50th anniversary nostalgia. Trey always finds some fun grooves.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....thin. Dude. That was hilarious, and not incorrect.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....the magic number. So happens, that's how many wins Vegas needs to raise The Cup. (ouch). My damn RFK Box is sneering at me. Screw you box! (best Man Smart, Women Smarter?). It's up there....
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....posting Phish vids on dead.net? Bless you. I wasn't ready to stop touring in '95 either. Luckily, '96-'98 saved a bunch of souls. Prime Phish era. They responded to the fact that a ton of other people weren't ready to stop touring either. They probably had a meeting. Mike. "You know guys, a bunch of our fellow heads are gonna need a life preserver. This is big!" Fishman. "Yeah Mike. We gotta rise up! Lemme wash my mumu" Trey. "Time to practice like we've never practiced before. Put that joint down. Serious time!" Page. "I need a sammich." Truth....Trey started down the Jerry road in 2002-2003. Got pulled over by a cop. Game changer. I love that cop....
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....Nicko: "We got to get through this tour yet. [Laughs] We got a lot of life left in us. We've not ever, that I can recall, unless anyone else in the band has without a band gathering, decided whether or not we want to carry on or not. We just carry on. I've always made it clear to Steve [Harris, bass] and the guys that if I can't drive the band physically, then I'd step down. Don't get me wrong, boys and girls — I'm not saying that I am. It's so important that the band carries on and plays as much as we want because we have the passion. Again, it's not financial, it's not anything to do with that, it's because we love it. If it came as a chore and I'll quote Jan [Gers, guitar], if we ever became a parody of ourselves, that would be the time to hang it up. The thing is, we're not. I'm the granddaddy in the band. I'm the oldest fellow in the band which is quite unusual because every band I was in before MAIDEN, I was always the youngest or the second youngest. Now, I'm the wise old man of the band! They won't agree with the 'wise,' just the 'old.' We'll carry on as long as our fans, which are the most loyal and I'm telling you right now, without a doubt, I compare it to 'Arnie's Army', the golfer Arnold Palmer. He started a fanbase back in the '60s. He had this massive following and they called it 'Arnie's Army'. They were the most loyal fans to a golfer. Every band says their fans are the best and I love that their bands do respect it, but I truly mean it and I know we have the best fans in the world. We do not make you guys happy, then what's the point? Although we do it for ourselves, but at the end of the day, we could go up there and think we're Jack The Lad and you could go, 'What was that all about?' Nick's playing in a different time. He's in a different song. Bruce is singing out of time!' When it's not that fantastic vibe that we get when we play together — we'll carry on as you want us to and the fans and as long as we have the heart to and believe me, there's actually more passion the more we get older than I think we had when we had when we were in the mid-'80s in the first heyday of MAIDEN."....passion, in a nutshell. Up The Irons!! Iron Maiden was my first blind date. Keep on trucking' on gents.
user picture

Member for

6 years 6 months
Permalink

I'M Playing that particular show right now. 2010 is and adjustment but I get what they were going for: a recording that captures the live sound not a dry ice sbd. and yeah Mike was the most vocal about not wanting to quit phish. their shows in 95 they received some spillage from Deadheads after the Dead quit in 95. I heard phish first before the dead it was Hoist first then Rift second wasn't majorly into lawnboy. then it was livephish vol 1. and I traded the warner bros box set for Hampton Comes ALive box set. and I was a phish fan. I probly am more into phish than the dead truth be told.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....music is universal. (Except that computer/electronic stuff). That's not music. That's a beat. That's programs. I hold fast to that ideal. Someone prove me wrong.
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

Nicely said.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

.... incredible take on Cities. https://youtu.be/bd0O_aVrG10 It's all good, but if you want to get to the hose, FF to the 17:20 mark. It's all gravy after that....the uploaders YouTube discription pretty much says it all. Do you trust me? If nothing else, the still on the video is badass.
user picture

Member for

11 years 5 months
Permalink

Sure, let's say what ruined Garcia was heroin. But it was more complicated than that. I'll call it the "4-H's". History, Hedonism, Heroin, and Haagen Dazs.History- Many a celebrtity has been personally destroyed by said celebrity. It's something I certainly have no experience with but it's quite apparent it can crush certain souls literally to death. Seems he got exhausted being considered a god in a leather jacket (black t-shirt). Hedonism- Jerry did whatever the F he wanted, whenever the F he wanted. He ran away from the women in his life easier than I get rid of my old cars. Heroin- Yep. He did that, too. But didn't we all consider drugs part of the myth and magic ? It's killed a lot of great musicians. And a lucky few have survived it, although worse for wear. Haagen Dazs- Not a lot of fat junkies out there. Take away the H and by the 80's you still have an obese chain smoker with a terrible diet whose only real excercise was standing on a stage entertaining us a couple a hours a night a few nights a month. We even made jokes and bumper stickers about it. "The fat man rocks" etc. I guess my rambling point is: take away the Heroin and one way or another he was still going to leave way too early.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

“That’s not music, that’s a beat”.Absolutely! The B-52’s have a song (and it is music) “Throw that beat in the garbage can” Phish did not fill a void for me in 95, went 2x in 95, and once each in 96-98, including Thomas and Mack in 97. Shoreline 98 was my last. Just wasn’t really doing it for me, didn’t seem the same as in 92-93. Instead, the void was filled in 95 by going full speed ahead with tape trading and getting as many GOGD SBDs that I could get my hands on. And I’m still in that frame of mind. Bring on the Full Normans!
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

I was under the impression that it was more diet, smoking, obesity and a range of health problems that eventually killed Jerry, rather than his heroin use. People seem to latch on to the fact the fact that because he took heroin, that must have been what killed him-but it doesn't look as though this was necessarily true. I would also say that having survived various health scares in the 1980s, it would have been fundamental to his own survival to change his lifestyle. He seemed to do the opposite, going right back to what he was doing when he developed all his problems- back on the road with The Dead. The unfortunate success of "Touch of Grey" made things even worse, thrusting him into the spotlight and the role of celebrity-something he always seemed to have difficulty coping with. So he went back to his old way of coping-all the various habits he had developed over the years-and this seems to be what killed him. Tragic.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 6 months
Permalink

daverock- I believe it is everything you mention that led to Jerry's demise. He bounced back very strongly in 87 and in many ways, I think he really enjoyed the success- he was leading three bands, playing on Broadway. This is simplistic, but I always used how much Jerry smiled as a barometer. Portland '83, he spent the entire show with his chin on his chest, seriously, he never looked up. Augusta '84, he looked like death while playing one of my favorite shows. I saw bunch of shows in 87 with all of his bands and he was having a blast, smiling, waving. He got cleaned up and energized big time in 89 and 90 and it shows in the music and the setlists. I think Brent's death was a huge blow to Jerry. The recent documentary painfully showed a trapped man, struggling and lonely. He aged 20 years in 5. If you have heard any of the soundchecks from 94 and 95, Jerry was grumpy and not exactly enjoying life. Dragging 75,000 people around the country would make any of us grumpy.
user picture

Member for

11 years 4 months
Permalink

daverock - you wrote: "I was under the impression that it was more diet, smoking, obesity and a range of health problems that eventually killed Jerry, rather than his heroin use" Oh really??? What's your source on THAT datapoint? Lots of people have a poor diet and smoke and they don't wind up looking like Jerry did in the mid-80's. All his vices certainly played a role, but once someone is on heroin they just don't give a f___ about anything else, leading to a runaway train of smoking/poor diet/health neglect. To say "it wasn't the heroin but his diet" is like saying "alcohol didn't kill the drunk driver - it was the tree he hit!." Just say No to trees, kids! And as for Jer's smile being the barometer for "how happy he was", I agree. But I'd say it's more a of a reflection of whether he was using heroin. Chin down and uncommunicative was his tell for heroin usage. He was happy and gregarious when clean, "grumpy cat" when using.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 2 months
Permalink

...change people as nothing else can. Together? Whoa, potent. Since I now can't stomach much of any GD post-1980, I make the lazy, obnoxious, yet confident assumption that money and drugs tragically and eventually killed Jerry and gradually extinguished great Grateful Dead music along the way to 1995. Big scenes, stoned/buzzed band, Mickey's narcoleptic shuffle beat, witless new tunes (e.g. Standing On The Moon), rare rehearsals... these seem to add up to uninspiring arena rock-cheese that most definitely did not age well. Pre-1979? Almost all good: Vintage Dead
user picture

Member for

17 years 1 month
Permalink

Show will be July 7, 1989. Already released as Crimson, White and Indigo but the MUATM version is going to be newly remastered? That was already high quality video and audio. I wonder what else they were able to pull out of it? Great show for sure but I wonder what if it's any indication that the new box will be a summer 89 showcase of some kind? I hope they aren't using the promise of new box info as means to sell tickets to something I can already watch at home and this presentation is truly an upgrade of some kind.
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

Well, I wasn't stating that it was exclusively his diet/smoking/lack of exercise that killed Jerry, just that this was a major contributory factor. The fact that he suffered from diabetes meant that he needed to take better care of his health-which of course he didn't do. If you have diabetes and smoke and over eat a lot of sugary food you are placing your life at risk-whether you take heroin or not. There are degrees of everything, too. Not everyone who takes heroin looks like Jerry. Not everyone who follows a poor diet and smokes looks like Jerry. We all look different! If someone takes heroin, every negative thing that happens to themselves, their families and their communities can be laid at their door. This is often the result of prejudice rather than knowledge.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

Isn’t that an oxymoron? Haven’t spent any time with heroin addicts so what I see on tv is my only exposure. They generally look thin and scraggly. The fact that Jerry was fat confirms what others are saying about his other contributions to his poor health. But let’s not attack the fat man that we all love. He carried a heavy burden with all the expectations that the fans placed on him. And every 10 years or so a keyboardist dies. That can’t help.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

Hard Working AmericansWe’re All In This Together A very fine live album. Haven’t seen HWA without Neil. Hopefully it’s just as good.
user picture

Member for

10 years 8 months
Permalink

The new GD e-newsletter states that the Aug. 1 MUATM will "reveal an exclusive look at the Dead's soon-to-be-announced 2018 boxed set." This implies that the announcement will come before Aug. 1 and they'll just add a little video hype for MUATM-goers. I'm rootin' for Summer '73, as you know, but as always, I'm ready for anything. Not to mention being sooooo ready for the fall '67, 1st red'd Mickey show. That's when the six-headed beast really began to stir.
user picture

Member for

14 years 10 months
Permalink

I have read that he witnessed his father drowning. maybe that somewhat influenced his later choices. well anyway, Jerry's been deceased for nigh on 23 years.
user picture

Member for

10 years 8 months
Permalink

But it became lore. Like the story that aliens snatched off part of his finger... you heard that one, right? Jer wasn't intrinsically a tragic figure. As a rock star, he had access to things that weren't good for him. He got bored with the GD, tired of the iconic status he earned ("Playing like every night is New Years Eve gets to be a bit much," he once said after the GD became popular), and said he'd rather play with his own band. He actively disregarded his health and took the lazy path of feeling good through drugs alone, with the heaviness that heroin brings to one's existence, he dealt himself a very unhealthy hand. Add smoking, free-basing, coke/smack, a pitifully unhealthy diet, diabetes and constant touring with over-adulating fans and I can see that whole train wreck unfolding like the story of Casey Jones.
user picture

Member for

11 years 4 months
Permalink

icecrmconkd: Why is it that whenever a conversation comes up about Jerry's bad habits there's a call to "not attack" or "make fun of" him?? It is what it is. We should be able to have a mature conversation about Jerry and the bad habits that eventually did him in. I'm not into whitewashing or revisionist history. Let us learn form it. Also daverock, point well taken, but you ascribed MORE blame to the other lifestyle choices than heroin, which I find puzzling. Yes it effects everyone differently, but for every functional heroin user there's a stone cold junkie train wreck. Also diabetes is a disease you can contract in mid-life DUE TO poor diet/lack of exercise/drug use. Heroin use can LEAD TO poor diet and lack of exercise, which can LEAD TO diabetes. And diabetes wreaks havoc on your organs and increases your overall health risk... it's a downward spiral - ya fly too close to the sun, your wings are GONNA melt. If Jerry never did heroin I bet he'd still be alive. A few years ago this topic came up and a few people here admitted that they are casual heroin users, which kinda freaked me out: "Hey it's not a big deal, i do it all the time." I hope my son never, ever, ever meets those people. Sure some people can handle it, but it's russian roulette to even try it, in my opinion. I pray to God my college bound son never meets anyone who says "Hey try this, it's heroin - it gets a bad rap but you'll LOVE it! .... Ahhh, your old man's a pussy...."
user picture

Member for

10 years 3 months
Permalink

First off, aliens did snatch off his finger - you can see it clearly in the Close Encounters cameo he did. Second off, if I had his money, talent, and band, I would have died at least 5 years sooner - God Bless Garcia
user picture

Member for

11 years 3 months
Permalink

Very fucking BORING & repetitive conversation.
product sku
081227931605