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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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    For any Gene Hackman fans out there... A great one liner from the 2001 movie Heist. Gene Hackman: (being reminded to get his change from a cup of coffee).. Money, it's what makes the world go round. Delroy Lindo: I thought Love made the world go round. Gene Hackman: You're right. Love of money. Sad but true.. It started a long time ago but seems to have picked up a lot of momentum with Gordon Gekko.
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    Either you edited your post between the time I first read it and when I decided to log in and respond, or I had an artificial hallucination. I thought I saw you write a line about "WHAT has happened to the human race?" and do not see it now. Anyway, I have your answer. The love of money above all else is what has happened to the human race, or at least the business end of it. I remember the days before voicemail and email, where it was always reassuring to get that voice on the phone to describe your problem to and clarify any misconceptions on the spot. Mostly gone now. Seems like around 1980 was when things started heading that way. Think back about what was happening around then, and you can get an idea why. About whether it's Fair? I'm not sure fairness has much to do with it anymore. But in all fairness, it's what you get in this culture now, not just something that happens at dead.net. I still have good experiences with some customer service departments though, but that usually happens when there is a voice bypass on the voicemail system to get right through to a customer service rep. I just got back from a road trip last night, and my PNW box is waiting for me to pick up with my neighbor across the street. I'm about to find out today whether I'm a lucky one with no issues, or another victim of haphazard quality control. Wish me luck.
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    Hello fellow Dead Freaks. I haven't been on dead.net lately, and I don't usually share that much. But I feel maybe I should share a couple of my thoughts and experiences with you.First off, The Box Set. I am sorry to hear that people have had bad experiences with this box set. But, on the other hand I am really glad to know that I was not the only person who has gotten screwed by purchasing this over-priced box of crap. I had to purchase the Box twice. And then I had to send it back for a refund twice. The first box arrived with physical damage to the actual box set itself. OK, problem No.1. Problem No. 2 -> by the time I gotten thru Disc 5 I had encountered so so many defects (skipping,etc...) I lost count and realized that enough is enough! I TRIED FOR 10 DAYS to get some actual customer service for an EXCHANGE. Writing them, and filling out the stupid Request Forms. Even received an "Access Key". Which "Mirrored Back" to me all of my email inquiries.(whatever that was about? Very strange) STILL, I was totally ignored and got nowhere. NO CUSTOMER SERVICE AT ALL. Sent Box 1 Back. Now, I have painstakingly collected all of the Box sets and all other releases thru the years. It has been expensive, and not always an easy go of it. Especially when you only have one option to obtain this music through Dead.net and is usually always in "Limited Releases". (I have been very blessed to be able to do so and very grateful.) That being said, I bought a 2nd Box Set. The same crap happened again! The box set was absolute junk. So instead of being "totally ignored" again by dead.net customer service, I QUICKLY SENT THIS BOX BACK TOO for a refund. Again. NOW HERE IS MY POINT. I totally feel left out here. This should not happen. There is absolutely NO QUALITY CONTROL AT ALL. Dead.net has really wasted my time and money. I feel as though I have reached a crossroads here. BACK TO MY MAIN POINT. -> "NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING ANYMORE". HIDING BEHIND EMAILS WITH ONE WAY COMMUNICATION IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS. It's that simple. IT'S JUST BAD BUSINESS. I also had to shell out $50.00 bucks out of my own pocket to return both these box sets. HOW IS THAT FAIR? So here I sit at the crossroads. Why should I buy another box set or any release for that matter when the product I am buying is probably going to be defective anyway? Why would I even consider buying anything online from a company that doesn't have any reliable customer service available to fall back on? A company that has nobody to talk to? Normally, I would not even consider doing that. If anyone at Dead.net cares at all about doing "Good Business" then they would realize that they have a Huge Problem that absolutely needs to addressed and fixed! The Customer Service that we as consumers deserve from Dead.net has always been terrible. This BS is nothing new. WE DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AND CONTINUE TO GET FROM DEAD.NET CUSTOMER SERVICE. So I implore whoever is running the show at dead.net to FIX THIS PROBLEM NOW, BEFORE YOU RELEASE MORE UNACCEPTABLE DEFECTIVE JUNK TO THE DEAD.NET CONSUMERS. I want to thank my fellow heads for reading listening to this rant? At least I know that someone is hearing my concerns. I'm sick and tired of talking to useless people that just do not care and have no pride in what they are doing. I come from a generation of people who actually had to work for, and earn a living to get ahead in this world. I also Truly Believe that "Communication" and "Awareness" is a good place to start to make this a better world to live in. So "Good Day" Dead Freaks and be "accountable" for something today. You might find that it is actually a good thing, and is something to be proud of.
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    Wow, what a horrible experience, I feel for you and hope that all turns out well. Get Mary involved, she will make things happen for you, she is the best. I agree with you about deadnet's customer service, it is non existent. I had a similar experience with the E72 box and it took me a year of writing, bitching and complaining to get it resolved, but they finally did once Mary was involved. Until dead productions return to the good old USA this type of clusterf**k will continue and just like everything else, we, the fans and consumers of this music must be the ones to rise up and point out these misdeeds. If anyone else ran their business like this, they would be out of business in no time, but, because they have the goods and music we love and want, they can precharge us, not talk to us, outsource their product to crappy manufacturers and pretty much abuse us with no action taken against them. They know they have the goods, and that we want their product, it's is unfortunate that we are treated this way. I feel for you Judy and hope it does not take you a year to get what you paid for. I, for one, will never buy presale from deadnet again, the cost is too high and the probability of failure is just not worth the time and money. I've got enough dead and if I need more etree is back up and running, I will get it there, it's free and Charlie Miller makes a mean sounding recording.
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    Just picked up tickets to see The Orb on their 30 year anniversary tour, should be interesting and fun Little Fluffy Clouds anyone? Also picked up Bob Dylan tickets to a sold out show, should be interesting and fun also. Gonna be a great fall. I am interested to see what Bob is putting out nowdays and read some reviews from his most recent tour, seems he's at the piano with no guitar playing at all, has a new band and the stage is set like a living room setting. Also heard he has done rearrangements to some of his old classics that are so different, you can't tell what song it is. Anybody else seen Bob lately? Any comments on the Orb and their live show?
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    I'm sorry to hear your story, Judy.. I hope in the end it works that it works out as well as it can. I certainly understand how an experience like this can sour the experience.. I am enjoying my box so far.. and 1974 starts today, one of my favorite years. Have you tried sending a PM to MaryE? I hope they make you whole on this..
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    What a horrendous story-in a fair world you would be compensated for having received such an appalling service. Its one thing to get a damaged product through the post, but its another thing entirely to be then denied the opportunity of being able to talk to someone connected about what has gone wrong. I was lucky enough to get a different, more old fashioned response for a book that I ordered that arrived damaged earlier this year. It wasn't cheap-£75.00-a collection of H.P.Lovecraft's short stories published and issued by The Folio Society. I was out when it was delivered, so the delivery man chucked the parcel over a 12 foot gate at the side of my house, damaging the book. I phoned up the Folio Society, just to tell them what had happened. Someone immediately answered the phone. She also immediately offered to send another book out recorded delivery-at no extra cost to me-which arrived the following day. She suggested I give the damaged copy to charity. What a great way to run a business.
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    Rocktober 2018 Rhino/Grateful Dead vinyl releases... -October 2nd- * Grateful Dead – Steal Your Face – 2-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – Wake Of The Flood – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. -October 9th- * Grateful Dead – Blues For Allah – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – From The Mars Hotel – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. ... Rocktober 2018 vinyl releases every Tuesday in October, check out the full list of band releases... :)
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    oh my,, please put this in the rotation,
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    ok on daves picks 28
    I think we don't have a choice ,which is ok lets sit back and chill for the anticipation of whats next , as we go along the dead vault may get a little tighter because of not everything is perfect, and we all want perfection just like jerry, right know this 2/13/70 is sounding very good, god bless everybody , forget everything dark star 2/13/70
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Did you mean to say 4,000? Prob closer to 400x25. I imagine this selling out- I’ve already pre-ordered mine- but don’t see it selling out before the actual sale date.
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I think that was meant to be a joke. I tried putting 9900 in my cart, and it let me. Total was $1,880,802.00.
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Well, I did empty my cart right away....so those 4K are all yours, buddy!
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I have a feeling that this set will be around for a minute. Doesn't seem like a lot of people are talking about it too much. Most people are talking about Specs and things like that in the chat Are we unfamiliar with these shows? Is that why the enthusiasm seems dampened? For instance, we got 3 circulated shows, and 7/7/78 in Stereo for the first time, and the gorgeous 1978 box still remains on sale. The First May 1977 box was on sale for quite a long time as was Spring Too (the single best sounding vault release of all) and even Winterland 77 was for sale for a very long time. Hoping this set is still around in July or August. Sounds like a nice art piece
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There seems to be a lot of speculation on here before a release is announced, followed by immediate responses of euphoria or disappointment depending on how you feel about the show(s) chosen. After that...I don't tend to listen to many shows that haven't been officially released these days-so-in the case of this box-I have heard a few of the shows before, but not for many years. So what I am left with is looking at the set lists. And they feature an awful lot of songs I have got a lot of versions of already. With new versions of some songs-Dark Star and The Other One spring to mind-every new officially released version is welcomed. But with shorter songs, its harder to drum up the same level of enthusiasm. But these shows, although I don't remember them specifically, come from one of the, if not THE, golden ages of the Dead. Even if the set lists look a bit lack lustre or repetitious-as soon as I have the box here at home, I am sure I will be thrilled by the package, and more importantly, totally transported by the shows themselves.
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Off topic-but I saw an incredible concert by Jeff Beck last Friday, at a beautiful open air venue in London. I couldn't make out who was in the band apart from Jeff and Jimmy Hall on vocals, but the line up seemed to be completed by a drummer, bass player-and surprisingly-a cellist on some tracks. The cellist really added a lot to incredible versions of Little Wing and A Day in the Life. Other stand out tracks were Superstition, A Change is Gonna Come and blues rock classics You Shook Me and I'm Going Down for encores. A brilliant concert-with Imelda May doing a set prior to Jeff's. All in, a damn near perfect way to spend a Friday night.
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"So what I am left with is looking at the set lists. And they feature an awful lot of songs I have got a lot of versions of already." Now that I look at my hundreds of show's, I DO have some repeated songs! That's weird....
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Got no heart? Hardly.. I believe this will sell out, but I expect there will be some to purchase in time for the holidays, possibly beyond. ,With the exception of Cornell, the last few Box Sets have taken some time to sell out, this will likely fall into this pattern. I have to think they will go faster then the last 78 and 90 boxes though. ..especially once people give this a first listen. There are a couple tentpole shows in this box and I expect the sound quality will surprise many. That seems to be where they focused their energy. Considering the era and the quality.. my guess is it will sell out. Good to hear about Jeff Beck. I have second row seats to see him in a beautiful theatre in Pittsburgh in about a month. I was gun shy pulling the trigger, trying to spend a bit less on certain things this summer. But I got second row at face and remembered how good he was the last time I saw him. I couldn't pass it up.
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Does anybody have an update or reason why the digital download feature in the store is still inoperable with some products? I missed the May 77 and Spring 1990 Box sets, just to name a few, and would really like to get my hands on them...and this crazy message has been haunting my dreams for some time: "Digital downloads have been temporarily disabled while we work on resolving the technical issues". Cheers!
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Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
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50th anni of our heroes, I'm listening to the last Carousel show - and it's got a whole lotta weird goin' for it. After a red hot, greasy Lovelight/NFA/Lovelight, a full-blown acid test episode takes place. If you've not heard this hour - there's a 2nd hour or so if the 1st grabs you - don't be denied. BTW, I'll be listening for the last time to my unofficial copies of the shows from the forthcoming box and saying to self, "oh, yeah, that totally unforgivable cut won't be there, or that patch, etc...", and once again be grateful to the GOGD PTB. Later, will listen to: Oscar Pettiford "Deep Passion" (7-10) 6/19/56 Sonny Rollins "The Sound of Sonny" (1-10) 6/19/57 Freddie Hubbard "Open Sesame" (1-6) 6/19/60 Miles Davis "Filles de Killimanjaro" 6/19/68
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It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.
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On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
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Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
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First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
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Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
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....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
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Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
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Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
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I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
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Keithfan, I agree with you, I would want a refund or a redo of the show myself. Who called the show? Was it the band or the venue? This makes a difference, if it was the band, then redo for sure, I just can't see the band stopping the show or calling it done due to a bit of weather, they are known for conjuring up weather phenomenons in the past. If it was the venue, then I think a partial refund is only appropriate. Some say you shouldn't get a refund, obviously they did not get stiffed. I got a refund when they cancelled the Orlando show last December,you got half a show if I'm not mistaken (not up that much on Dead and Co. but I do check out setlists etc on Etree) I guess you got 3 songs for a second set? I would be upset too. I gather from your post you spoke to BB&T staff and they said no rather rudely. Only other thing to do is get in touch with the band management and see what they say. It's a long shot and maybe a post on facebook or other social media might get you furthur, I don't know, but at least you would have some joy in knowing you at least tried and did let the band know that you feel ripped off. Maybe a petition started with signatures of folks who also got ripped off for a second set, I mean, no drums and space....that just ain't right. I have had bad luck seeing the boys recently, Orlando cancelled, Ratdog show the fall before FTW cancelled too, Bobby was hurt but I think it was a substance thing. So I know how you feel. Good luck in your quest and hopefully, the band can squeeze you in at the end of the tour or a free show later, now that would be cool, and we all know this band and it's members are very cool :)
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they got your money they don't care about you now lesson: be prepared for rainouts etc. went to Phil and Friends in 2001. the organizers made everyone park off-site and then get shuttled to the concert venue. wretchedly run shuttle system = missing 99% of first set. in both cases, "T.S., Elliot." best solution is never to buy D&C tix or merch again.
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Was that P&F show at St Michelle in Woodinville by chance? As for the box set, I like this one a lot. 2 of the shows are monsters, the others will be like hearing a show for the first time. Next up, D&C at The Gorge, can't beat summer in the PNW! Curious where Dave lives. I thought I saw him once in Cannon Beach, OR, but was like "nah dude lives in CA." My guess is from the video somewhere on the Olympic Peninsula. Port Townsend maybe, beautiful area.
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..but I think Dave lives in BC, perhaps in or near Vancouver. I am surprised he hasn't invited us over for tea.
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If Camden had not been canceled and people on the lawn got hit by lightning then people would be pissed that the show had not been canceled. I’m guessing that there will be no refunds since you saw more than 50% of the show.
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Of course, I couldn't wait another paycheck or two in the off chance it sells out. Looking forward to this one, love the 6/22 show, not overly familiar with the rest of the shows. Have heard the 46 min Playing a couple times, but don't recall listening intently to the rest of that show. 5/19/74 I have heard a couple times, wasn't too blown away, but have seen it listed as a tentpole show for years, so, perhaps Plangent will change my mind. Like that they thought outside the box on this with 2 years being covered, a really good idea to non-obsessives because you can hear the difference in playing styles and sound equipment over a 2 year period with similar songs. Too bad that some of those songs were gone by the next summer like Bird Song and Here Comes Sunshine, but we get the wonders of Weather Report Suite. Thanks to Dave and Rhino for what looks to be a beautiful set! On a side note, it will be getting delivered the same week as John McLaughlin and Jimmy Herring Live in San Francisco, an LP and CD set of their Mahavishnu Meeting of the Spirits set. The wife may or may not flip out.
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Watch out Dave, their coming to get ya!Jim, I think he said 58 miles from Vancouver, and 78 from Seattle, so near the border somewhere...
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I'm loading up the truck now. What's for dinner Dave? Aye.
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I tried triangulating David Lemieux's location using the mileage to the three PNW '73-'74 venues that he read from his "notes". Looks like maybe the seaside chats originate near/on the southeast (inside) coast of Vancouver Island.
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A little late but better late etc... I did check out the Mexico Show last month that you suggested. Have to admit the Shakedown got real funky when Oteil starts to take over followed by Jeff. Made me think of an earlier Phish jam that was a copy of an early Jerry/Brent jam. Good stuff. G
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Sixtus - Good luck on delivering the new bambino - I hope all goes smoothly. I guess that means you don't want to catch a Lizard Lounge show Friday night.... We have to grab a beer when your life settles down... in 3 years! Refunds: I empathize with your missing the end of that BB&T show Keithfan, but I'm with AngryJack on this one: If I were D&C I'd do the same. The Dead showed up, incurred every expense, and did everything they could to put on a full show in good faith. And it's not like they stopped 2 songs into the 1st set - you caught about 2/3 of a regular length show. I think Jack's baseball game & ski ticket analogies are appropriate - any outdoor event is subject to the whims of mother nature. However I definitely want a refund for all these duplicate songs in my GD CD collection. Making me pay for EVERY Me & My Uncle is outrageous - what the deuce?!!!
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And congrats on the Third. Man are yall fertile!!!
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I think he's in East Sooke Regional Park or on private land near there. In all the videos that Dave has shot from along the Strait of Juan de Fuca over the years, I don't think I've seen Mount Olympus in the background, but I may be wrong as I've never seen Mt O from a NW perspective, only from the east - Bainbridge Island, WA.I hope this helps, JeffSmith.
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Yes, your views on Jeff Beck are very similar to mine. His music always seems fresh and exciting to me. I had high hopes for last Friday's show-and it easily exceeded my expectations. Just the sound of his guitar was immaculate-and what he was doing on it was breath taking. He played a lot of instrumentals-in fact the show included many different styles-from jazz fusion to soul to blues to psychedelia. Everything he touched seemed to turn to gold. I enjoyed it much more than his last release-Live at The Hollywood Bowl-although that is good too. It was very inspired to have a cellist play on some of the tracks, too-what she played fit in perfectly. It surprised me that Rosie Bones-the vocalist on Loud Hailer- wasn't there-but that was actually alright with me, too. I wondered, after Imelda May had finished her set, whether she would join Jeff on stage, but this didn't happen. So-you made a wise choice, Jim, getting a ticket to see him later this year. I would see him again later this year, if I could. In fact, I would see him again tomorrow, if I could.
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Perhaps I wasn't too clear in my post about shows featuring songs I already (obviously) have. It isn't listening to such shows that doesn't excite me-its reading the set lists before I listen. Listening to shows from years I really like is okay! The Europe 72 box, for example, is one of my most treasured collections, despite having duplications galore. I missed out on the 1969 Fillmore West box set-but I will have no hesitation in buying up everything that is released from this series of shows when they are released on vinyl. Which can't come soon enough for me. No-what doesn't always excite me is looking at the set list prior to hearing the show in question. To take one example-there is only one way of typing a song title-"Tennessee Jed", when you type it, always looks the same. Its only when you actually hear the particular version of the song, that it becomes interesting. So when I look at a set list that has a lot of songs included that I am already very familiar with-it doesn't look too exciting. This all changes when the show arrives at my house and I start listening. Which is why I continue to buy so many shows. What looks like a "here we go again" show on paper is transformed in the playing. Usually.
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Daverock (aka Maverick per spellcheck) - Thanks for clarifying. Agreed, and hope you didn't take any offense to my snarky comment. That comment just jumped out at me and I chuckled to myself - tongue firmly in cheek. Like you, I barely looked at the setlists for this box (except to count the Dark Stars/Other One) since these years tend to be very predictable in terms of setlists, and when you get a whole run of shows you know you're getting at least one of everything. Jeff Beck is amazing, but not passive listening. He commands attention, but I can't listen to a full road trip of Jeff Beck. He's more of a thrill ride than an easy chair like the GD or Clapton. Small doses, for me anyway.
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today on the way in to work I heard Jimi's Red House for the first time in at least...2 years or more. this afternoon, clearing out some old books that were on a shelf in my classroom. I look in an art book. I happen upon an image of Paul Klee's "Rotes Haus" (Red House) is it special magic? or just the nature of things? very cool
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....there are no such things as coincidences.
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