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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • marye
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    Tim and others with disc issues
    if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.
  • TimP
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    I too have had 2 issues with…

    I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

    Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

    BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

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    The Pacific Northwest ’73-’74 big box

    My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

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    MARYE - defective discs

    Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

    I appreciate the speedy response and help.

    Time to rock out !!!

    Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

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    I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

    Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

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    I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

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    I think Reijo has a point.

    Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

    Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

    Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

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    hate to complain but...

    They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

  • Drifter's Escape
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    Mix issues

    I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
    My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
    Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

    What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

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    Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

    Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

    Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

    Again, I could be missing something..

    One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Boy that box looks big. Is there something in there that we are not being told? A big thank you to Cosmic Charlie for turning me on to Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA (2/26/77). A terrapin opener. Hunter's Trix Vol 80.
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Maybe empty and will be a nice case for some existing releases. I am going to assume closed in like 30 trips and a lot of unused space. I am also assume like 30 trip it will be wood.
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I made the comment a few months back about my "downward spiral of metal." To which you responded, "I get you now." Paraphrasing both. I got to see Iron Maiden on the Killers tour. I was was in my peak of metal in 1981, and yes I occasionally will put on a grinder just to shake things up. It was Maiden as the original group (adding Adrian Smith)and they blew us away. Hard, loud, powerful, and sounding great. They played almost all of Killers and most of their first album as well. Aha, Murders in the Roe Morgue! From the first album I can remember Running Free, Charlotte the harlot and Iron Maiden. Of course, then Priest came out and destroyed what was left of the Fox in Atlanta. Less than 6 months later I was turned on to these guys and slowly started the Golden Road. That road has continued since always cleaning and purifying to the point where Grateful Dead is almost 100% what I listen to. Cheers! g Edit:Sux caused I missed the dead there in 80, of course too young. But then got shut out to 1 of the 1985 shows at the Fox. It was hard to find heads when all of your buddies are full on metal gods.
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Don't forget Dick's Picks 19. 10/19/73 Oklahoma. Complete concert. Very good sound quality. Killer show.
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Thanks Shirdeep! Saw them many times during their short-lived existence, Jerry was on fire every for single show, arguably his best playing of that year was with Reconstruction. An official release would be welcome.
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Agree. Amazing show and still one of my favorite releases.
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DP19 is my favorite release to date. Perfect from start to finish. I wonder if anything will be released to change that.
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Speaking of DiP19, it is a great release. Every so often it comes up and I am amazed at how many think it is the best so far. I guess I need to try again. Dont get me wrong I love it. I just need that extra persuasion that it is a love supreme. I think I have two copies should someone need it. I will double check. g
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I found this cassette while trading with a guying Texas about 20 years ago. I was floored when I heard the 2nd set.... couldn't stop listening to it - like no other show I'd ever heard, and still amazes me every time I hear it. If you don't have this show, you are missing out!
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I felt the center of the universe shift just a little to the left...., I think a Sixtus may have been born... I can't BELIEVE we haven't gotten any updates. Where are his priorities?
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Back when I was raiding the Archives, the shows from this release just didn't have the recording quality I was looking for. So I'm really looking forward to this one. I did grab the UW Hec Ed show just for the novelty of the long PITB. An LP version would fill both sides of an entire album. Maybe it's just me, but in a 'Beavis and Butthead' kinda way I find it hilarious that in the main graphic the 8 figures arrayed around the skull are so, uh, anatomically correct.
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Are they gonna keep our $$ this many months in advance, or are they gonna refund it to us for now, and re-charge shortly before shipping?
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Good eye, drifter's. I totally missed that.
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Great catch indeed. Helen Lovejoy - will somebody think of the children.
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Look at the top large picture and focus on the 8 figures (male and female) that circle the center skull image.
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I hope its better quality than the 30 trips box. My 30 trips box was cracked on arrival. Music is great, so the box is not that important.
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Thin....you're on to something here... it certainly left a smokin crater in my mind I'd like to blown away! Our guy arrived just after 8'AM this morning....Tigran Victor Abrahamsen. That's Armenian, after Ingrid. She's doing excellent, we're all a little tired. BUT... Back to priorities; I'm still planning to stream tonight! Ha ha Ha from our hospital room. Long live Alpine Valley! Be well out there people. Sixtus
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While not likely I'd like to see an all music edition get released after the E72 crate & the 30TATS box I've run out of room to store these mega packaged releases call this one MiniZilla. It's Friday DeadLand did you kind folks PLAY DEAD today, here is a good selection for today 6/22/91.
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Congratulations man. All the best to you and your crew.
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The "mother-of-all-1973-shows"?Hardly likely. Just one of my all-time favorite shows, as with the big Dick Latvala himself. I am under the impression that Dave Lemieux was reading Latvala's notes, so in my minute, twisted, perverse, acid-soaked, pea-brain, Dick was still calling the shots (from the great beyond) Mentally, I still can see those two AudioMagnetics C-90 Type-I cassettes with poor muddy and hissy sound in my cheap boom-box cranking out this show.
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Sixtus so happy for you and yours. You and Jim and a couple of others may be the most energetic people I have ever seen. How you can keep us posted, be a married man, a father, an employee, wow! Wish some of that energy would rub off on me. Congrats to yall. Dang my short term memory, the Mrs' name escapes me, maybe Ingrid??? Let her know we are all pulling for you all! g Edit: d'oh, didnt see you said her name. I am proud of myself for remembering something more than 2 hours old.
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Hardly likely at this point. Only if this box sold out within the first four days or a very short time, much quicker than expected, would Rhino/Warner Music Group think of quickly creating an AME.
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So you named her after Jerry's "Tiger" guitar... (or perhaps the Tiger jam?) I predict you get a Row Jimmy tonight for Tigran: "Rock your baby to and fro, Not too fast and not too slow."
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The recording has always sounds papery and thin, at least throughout most of the first disc. There's just not a lot of depth to it. And too much hiss. Things improve somewhat as the show progresses, but not by much. Then again, most of Kidd's recordings sound that way, at least to my ear. Dave's 21 (love this one) is a Rex recording, and the difference is like proverbial night and day. It's not without its own flaws (name a recording that doesn't have them) but there's much more resonance. Again, not saying I don't appreciate Dave's 16. It's become a repeat play. But my ear sockets need to adjust each time I listen to it before I settle in for the ride.
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....that would be cool as shit. I'm gonna root for one! What's Become Of The Baby would be even more awesome!
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This looks freaking awesome!! It's boxes like this and 30 Trips that make me hate the fact I lock them up in the shipping box and put the discs in slim cases. Easy money for me Dave keep them coming.
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This looks freaking awesome!! It's boxes like this and 30 Trips that make me hate the fact I lock them up in the shipping box and put the discs in slim cases. Easy money for me Dave keep them coming.
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Sixtus :-) Skull - I agree with your opinion on DaP 16 & 21. I would have said 16 was "airier"? I gave all of a 5 minute listen to Stella's, both were amazing clear. That one on 16 thinnest sound great at volume. A hollow hall, standing on the edge of the pit, glowing before you, the way a stella should be, right? Anyway, how do account for the difference in recording techniques. Feeds used? Mixes made on fly? Mike placement? All of the above? Opinions on sound at both venues? Jim - when I went back I saw you had the voiced on the 16/21 recordings/shows. But what I went back for was you very fine quote - "flawlessly flawed". :-) You probably stole it. That was Twain, right? In the time since I've started this, I've got thru both recording of Stella. I think 21 is a little closer, warmer and intimate. Where the jam in 16 is "larger/spacious", 21's is bluer, more controlled, was it played on a Sunday? Sounds like a Sunday. Crazy huh? In any event Stella is a great across the eras tune. It may sound different but it's one you can get lost in your own thoughts while listening to and still snap out for the return to lyrics. But all the while you weren't really thinking about the era, but floating on the sound, right? Just hit the 3 from the spring 90 collection. The one from 1990-03-16 - Capital Centre - Landover, MD, was stella. That recording was very dimensional (in my book). Also the later Stella's soared, Phoenix from ashes shit (imho). I'm always impressed(?);-) with the width and depth of arcane knowledge. I'm excited about this box, because comparisons will be nice, but yeah, the box. I do like then cluttering the shelfs. As I look around, what other band has this many "box things", that aren't just repackage stuff already available. Now where am I going to put it,,, the books must go! Yes dear I gave them to charity, I knew you were never going to read War & Peace again. You said Infinite Jest twice was enough. (she still looking up footnotes) Speaking of box sets, is Pink Floyd going to release another box set? The Later Years?
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E72 has all music only edition
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Listening to 3-28-73 now and I don’t hear any hiss or other sound problems.In fact, sounds pretty damn good compared to the cassette tape collection I once had.
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6-22-91I bought an obstructed view seat at the box office the day of the show. The view was obstructed by the soundboard! The ticket was in the taping section. The view definitely was obstructed, so I stood off to the side in the aisle. Also found an upper level ticket on the ground before the show.
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It's poker night here in South Jersey. I'm playing Hold'em with the same four guys I've been playing Hold'em with for at least since Rockin' The Rhein came out. That is in fact the show that made me feel the magnetic pull and infectious delight of the Grateful Dead (Sugar Magnolia in particular). Not long after, my Uncle sent me Ladies and Gentlemen, where the best core version of Uncle John's Band resides, in my humble opinion. I just informed them of who you are and that you have a baby Sixtus in the world with you tonight. My buddy Dominic, who is hosting tonight, breaks out a bottle of 21 year old Redbreast Irish whiskey. My buddy Jimmy the Fish packed up the bong. I put Sugar Magnolia and Uncle John's Band on the stereo, and we toasted baby Tigran, Son of Sixtus. My only regret in this whole escapade, is that I flashed the picture of your dead net avatar, and there's a serious discussion going on about locating and tearing down a Dead End street sign for Dominic's bar.
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Like taffy1969 wrote, this has been a favorite for more than 30 years now, can't wait for the official release. We first had this show missing 6 songs; later on the six songs were added to make the show complete. The reason that six songs were initially left out was the fact that the vocals were too low in the mix. Portland '74 is a two-track tape, isn't it? So it will be re-mastered but no re-mix is possible? That's fine with me, always interested in complete shows as long as the mix isn't terrible...and the mix is superb apart from the six songs with low vocals. Glad to see these six shows available as a boxed set!
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I almost added the animal reference of "Hell in a Bucket" earlier related to my Tiger song ideas... it mentions "your chair and your whip and your pets" and the tiger snarl at the end... Apparently someone called Bobby about Tigran and he's pointing out the Hell in a Bucket connection in addition to my thoughts.
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Oh man, so many wonderful, thoughtful, kind, even creative remarks and well wishes - We are truly touched. I've shown Ingrid All of The Love that's being offered for Tigran and our family. She is similarly warmed in her heart. Thin, he caught that Bucket Opener too - I think he was so excited he pooped! I am an expert poop changer and swaddler, for the record. Two burps in a row meant he was PSYCHED for second set. Truly Feeling The Love. Thank you All for offering such a kind Family Welcome to our newest Deadhead and lifetime clan member. Another generation destined to know Jerry and The Grateful Dead. With Fond and Sincere Regards Sixtus
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I would like to congratulate you both on the birth of your masculine child. -- Luca Brasi
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great show never heard the first set until now have had the 2nd set on cassette for a long time it would a nice part of a Greek box set, Dave
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Who is the guy with dark hair and headband that is in the front row of every D&C show?
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My guess is Warren Buffet or Bill Gates.. perhaps Mark Cuban? Lucky bastard.. I hit a string of NY area shows about a decade or so ago. I was working that way and it was easy for me to get there and they were playing a lot.. I guess if was P&F / Further. Anyway.. there was this one guy, thin, kinda wiry.. he was front and center at every NY area show I caught.. and he was a jumper, up and down, up and down.. like straight up and straight down. So we aptly called him Tigger (as in Winnie the Poo Tigger). Perhaps it's Tigger.
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Tigran Mansurian. Highly acclaimed Armenian composer. His "Four Serious Songs for Violin and Orchestra" are really easy on the ears.
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