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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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June 19, 2018 - 10:17am

#3521

Mr. Pete

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Gone by the holidays....

I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
June 19, 2018 - 9:51am

#3522

tncorey

Joined:
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@Keithfan

Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
June 19, 2018 - 9:50am

#3523

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Refund

Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
June 19, 2018 - 9:14am

#3524

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Fun fact....

....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
June 19, 2018 - 9:12am

#3525

frosted

Joined:
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Jeff Beck

Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
June 19, 2018 - 9:01am

#3526

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Percentages

Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
June 19, 2018 - 8:47am

#3527

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: Sixtus III, I'm Shocked, Songs..

First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
June 19, 2018 - 8:25am

#3528

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Dead & Co Rain Out Camden June 2

On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
June 19, 2018 - 8:24am

#3529

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Sixtus The Third

Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
June 19, 2018 - 8:14am

#3530

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Pacific Northwest Sellout Efficacy

It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

I'm on the fence....

....if I even want to read that book.

Re: KevJones/'76

Well said. I get '76 GD. When I am in the mood.. there is nothing more soothing. That being said, I get in the mood for just about every era if you give it enough time. When I am in the mood and find just the right show, it's like food for the soul and keeps me going. 1976. Yes please. Mattress Firm Amphitheater. They better have some really comfortable seats..

not inclined at all

to read Fare Thee Well. Do want to read Barlow's Mother American Night.

RE: using "their" traditional story-telling iconography

The artist, Roy Henry Vickers, is a Canadian First Nations artist.

Fare Thee Well

Will not read it.Fare thee well the book will be relegated to the close out book store sale tables of the near future, whereas the work of John Barlow will last as long as humans still listen to music.

JImInMD RE:76

Yes, I wait all year to listen to 1976 Dead. Particularly June and July each year. So much fun. Has a little of that pre-retirement vibe, but also moving towards the tightness of 1977. The most wholly unique year in the band's history in my opinion.

76 :)))

I love it

1976 tangent

Is there anything better than a '76 Scarlet or Lazy Lightning/Supplication? I wait all year to listen to the June '76 shows. They are so special. Again, the most unique year in the band's history. Where else will you find Help>Slip>Frank, St. Stephen, Cosmic Charlie and Crazy Fingers all sharing the same setlist? Disco Dancins? Not to mention High Time, stand alone Playin's and Eyes with the '74 jam (Stronger Than Dirt) at the beginning of the song. So magical Oh, and don't forget those muscular NFAs

Just ordered Barlow's bio....

....no fence on that tome. Regarding '76 Dead. It hits all the right spots when I want those spots hit, which may not occur every day, but those days do arrive.

Spinal Tap

Rock and roll wives can be trouble. The Beatles. Spinal Tap.

Someone earlier was asking....

....what the PNW 73/74 Box dimensions are. Let's hope they don't pull a Stonehenge ala Spinal Tap.

fare thee well, or good bye Phil and Jill

Yes, it's sketchy, why Steve left, who wants to just play in a band when the leaders wife runs the show (a non musician running a band never works out). I remember rumors of her telling them all there would be NO drugs on tour, not even joints. When Steve got caught catching a fire, she flipped out on him, told him that Phil could not take the temptation and that druggies were not welcome. I too would have told her to go ...herself. Furthur broke up due to the drug use by the band around Jill, not Phil. In my opinion, Jill broke up the band, not drug use. Then she sells out for one more big paycheck that was FTW. Should have been called LTR (laid to rest) The FTW line up had no heart, because she has no clue what the band was meant to be and could be with the love that made them what they were. She will go down forever as the Yoko Ono of the Grateful Dead. Now, no one but Bobby will play with Phil, so, she took all the toys and went home, how's that working for you now. Phil went from one of the greats to being a restaurant owner. Sad, really sad.

smile, smile, smile

What’s been posted about the FTW book is enough to appease my curiosity. I get it-- can imagine what it would be like if I was still living in a house with my old college buddies and their girlfriends. Tempers flare hottest around those you know best. Best to just go on your own and listen to some June ’76. Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile....

'76 Indeedee

Kevjones I'm right there with you man. They don't call me Seventy-Sixtus for nothin' And never forget June 11th 1976, which I tout at least 76 times a year - an all time favorite among many other favorites in a favorite year. FAVORITE!! https://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-11.141709.sbd.miller.fixed.flac16… Tigran comes home today. I'll put some '76 on for him. Seventy-Sixtus

76......

.......not a big fan. It seems I'm in the minority here (-all dead is good dead-) but it lacks the imagination of 72-74, and lacks the power of 77 (or 78). I'm hoping for some primal 60's or 79-81, now that I just got 6 hot shows from 73-74. But hey, I'm sure I will be happy with whatever I get. Hope everyone is well. I've been listening to a lot of Yes lately, as I'm seeing them in Detroit on Saturday. Close to the Edge is an album that always works for me.

Jill Lesh....

....sounds like a bitch. I bet she rocks one of those "I want to see your manager" bob hair styles too.

76

Huge fan of 76, my 1st show was 10/9; by the fall of that year they were firing on all cylinders. Too bad(for us) they took such a long break before new year's eve, the last show 10/15 is a barn burner with one of the best 2nd sets of the year.

re: 76 - got some DL V4 spinning

All this seventysixtus talk... Got the Capitol Theatre show streaming from the Download Vol4 release. Never gave those DL's the nurturing they deserve. I guess I'm biased towards the physical product I can hold in my hand... Bonus nothing better than a Mission in the Rain from 1976 unless it's one from JGB in 1978 ;)

76

I'm with Doc (and Thursday) on this one. 76 = The GD on Valium. Does nothing for me. Lot's of folks love it, but I get bored silly listening to it. By the way D&C seem to be headed down that path as well. The summer shows have been way to slow for my taste.

Slow D&C

The cause of the slow tempos are detailed in the FTW book; it's all Bobby's doing: his concept is to sing the songs very slowly, to emphasize the story telling aspect of them. I'm guessing he might have gotten that from Jerry, for example when he slowed down Friend of the Devil(which I never understood: the original tempo conveyed the running from the devil exactly perfect)

RE: fare thee well, or good bye Phil and Jill

Well said Unkle Sam... "She will go down forever as the Yoko Ono of the Grateful Dead."

re FTW

To me phil comes off as playing in a Grateful Dead covers band. I never have had any interest is seeing any post dead. It seems that Bob is trying not to recreate what the dead did but pay the music homage by presenting it in a different light. I am now interested in seeing Bob again in something like his campfire band or even Dead and company. I think like the wheel he has moved on from the past and embraced the present with a view to the future. Good for you Bob and our drummers.

FTW and 1976-count me out

I can't say I'll be rushing to read this book on Fare Thee Well. From what people are saying on here it sounds ghastly. In fact, I'm amazed such a book has been published. I'm not keen on 1976, either. Some of the drifting jams appeal to me-but it sounds like a massive comedown from all the previous years to me. It seems quite an easy listening sort of year. And the shows in 1975 had such promise, too.

D&C slowness

Was watching the rebroadcast of the Mansfield show and one of the commenters who was commenting (or was that trolling) during the broadcast was railing against the slowness and suggested changing the stream to 1.25. I did that and boy did the music seem normal pace. I felt that the D&C shows I saw at Fenway and the Boston Garden were painfully slow last year. More so than the Worcester show for that 1st D&C tour or that first Fenway run (Loved that Acoustic Dark Star). I still loved going to those shows, but after seeing D&C 7 times probably not up for the exorbitant prices the enterprise is charging for not the best seats when JRAD, JGB, DSO can scratch that itch for a lot less scratch. I'm glad the music is out there and hope they continue to perform as long as they're putting quality performances but getting a tad bit too slow for me. Bobby just needs to let John, Oteil and Jeff run with it for a bit. BTW - who is Grateful Dean (Dean Stiller) - I think he is hillarious for his YouTube reviews and seems pretty spot on.

Bobby's Greatest Hits....

https://youtu.be/j0VM5DkErMs....as per Grateful Dean.

Psst..

You didn't hear it from me.. but I hear Steve Parish had Bobby's lovechild and has been raising it in secrecy all these years. It shouldn't surprise any of us that after 50 years there are squabbles. If any of you come from bigger families.. I bet there are a few skeletons in your closet too, and I bet we would be horrified if someone researched and wrote a tell-all book. The truth, we weren't there and no matter what was written there is a likely more to it then how it reads. I have no doubt it's based on real events but it seems to focus on the negative. I sincerely believe deep down inside these guys still love each other and are proud of the body of work they left behind just like I love my brothers and sisters, but I won't be moving back in with them anytime soon. I'm also sure there's a little bad blood.. I threw a screwdriver, a pair of scissors and a can of Spegetti-O's at my brother one day (although honestly.. he deserved worse). I'd like to think all is forgiven.. and honestly, I think we are better off in the way they have diversified and played / interacted with different artists. As for who is the biggest poser and the cover band aspect of it all.. Really? These guys have earned the right to play GD music how ever they see fit. I recently saw Phil Lesh and Friends backed up by the Preservation Hall Jazz Band and it was hardly a cover band. Fresh interpretations that strayed pretty far from the original arrangements. It was fresh, powerful and downright wonderful. I'd see that lineup again in a New York Minute. Let the music play.. it speaks for itself. Step to the side of the small talk and gossip. Just my opinion.. As always, I reserve the right to be tragically and horrifically wrong.

FTW: to set the record straight

Most of the book focuses on the business dealings; what comes across as negative gossip is tied to these events. The exception being the "encounter" between Billy and Jill's twins :-) but really, it was only a quick one sentence mention.The detailed descriptions of how the post-Jerry bands evolved, how Terrapin Xroads and Bob's TRI studio came into existence, of the organizing of the FTW shows, and more are indeed quite interesting.

They love each other ("core 4")

JimInMD writes: "I sincerely believe deep down inside these guys still love each other and are proud of the body of work they left behind..." Old story I think, I first heard a statement similar to that was about in early 1996 just after they retired the name Grateful Dead and still deeply mourning the death their dear brother, Jerome John Garcia.

Re: Cousins

Does that mean I am not forgiven for throwing a can of Spagetti-O's at my brother? :D

Nigeria came so close...

I really wanted them to win. Hope the French crush Messi and his buddies next Saturday!

Spagetti-Os Incident

It all depends if the can was opened or closed.

Variety

I think it’s Grate that 76 doesn’t sound like 74, 75, 77, or 78.It would be pretty boring if every year sounded the same.

Spagetti-O's Incident

It was closed.. left quite the hematoma as I recall. It's one of the few brawls that I clearly won (he's older).. so I am a bit proud of it. If I had given it more thought, I would have opened it first for good measure.

Brawls

Funny, my last brawl(I was 17) started after I dumped a rice plate over this guy's head durimg lunch...rivalry over a girl, no less.

Jimmy's Can Toss & FTW Summary

As always, so eloquently said and very fair. All excellent points. Speghetti-Oh's story made me chuckle out loud, I have two brothers myself and fully understand said 'brotherly love'. Be well my friend. Sixtus P.S. icecremconekid - your point is also spot on. Life is all about variety, change, adaptation, and love. All Good Things.

Spaghetti-O's....

....yuck. No nutritional value whatsover. Would make a good blunt weapon i suppose.

Book

I haven't read it yet but I'm sure I eventually will (seems like the perfect book to buy in the airport before a long flight). From what I've read and heard though, all of this seems pretty tame compared to other bands "tell all" books. You mean to tell me a band that's been together since 1965 has had their ups and downs? Has had to deal with power struggles or strong personalities? I'm shocked. Also, there isn't a band in the history of bands who didn't have an incident where someone made a pass (or worse) at another guy's wife or girlfriend. Meanwhile the shows (d&c or Phil) continue to be a great time and the music coming out of the vault is as exciting as ever.

Spirit of 76

I really enjoy 1976 Dead. In fact I always go back to Dave’s volume 18. Those 4 discs are phenomenal.

UH OH

SpaghettiOs! Sorry.

Today in Grateful Dead history....

....a show from this box!

fuck yeah! spaghetti-O's w/

fuck yeah! spaghetti-O's w/ meatballs! hated the hot dog one. I miss chef Boyardee pac man pasta was a big hit with kids like me who was way into Atari. spaghetti o's, cherry kool aid and Atari. 'MERICA! FUCK YEAH! lol

1st one! also, post Video Game Crash.

Thank You-Allfor replying to

Thank You-All for replying to my wanted GD queries. Happy Listening!

Nassau 85

My first ever show.

3/27 or 28/85?

85 has lots of tasty shows

5/16/72 Radio Luxembourg

ok show. no complaints I have begun 5/18/72

4/28/71

sooooo good. listening today...The Other One...CUTS. ouch.

@frosted Box Material

I'm hoping for some kind of wood... my cynical soul is saying plastic... Damn... I hope it's not plastic. There's too much of it in the oceans already; it would be kind of depressingly ironic if this one were made of plastic, given the artistry it bares.

Box Material

They are typically heavily processed wood (some sort of glued fibers or essentially a form of cardboard). I hope I'm wrong but doing something like this out of wood just isn't that common and production can be problematic. I am thinking something along the lines of 30 Trips. Plus.. it's painted, so they cover it up anyway. Just being realistic.. I have a ton of box sets, not just GD and the only one I have that is made out of wood is the Warlocks cigar box, and even that is pretty cheesy. ...but if it's wood, I vote for Cherry. Love Cherry, or perhaps zebra striped maple to look like Mayer's new guitar. That would be something.

House to Myself

This week and next.. what a wonderful thing. Plus, it's still raining here almost every day and the creeks are full.. but back to the music. I am a closet streamer.. when I am interested in something I purchase from Nugs and sometimes just don't have time to watch and listen, but they seem to stick around for a while. Last week I noticed for the first time that one of my unwatched streams was about to expire (from five years ago). Blasphemy I say. So I watched it and by the end of the night I was in no shape to start work by 8 am the next day. So I worked a half day and life was good. Tonight, in honor of my favorite GD cover band I am watching for the first time a Phil N Friends show from 2014 at the Brooklyn Bowl, Vegas (..not slated to expire). JK and Jackie Greene on Guitars.. some simply killer slide guitar on GDTRFB from Senor Greene Joe Russo on drums. Seems ok to me.. Hipsters, tripsters real good chicks sir.. everybody's Doing That Rag. It's too bad this technology wasn't around say.. 55 years ago. Oh.. and the tempo is fast, and it is loud enough to shake the plaster off the ceiling. Fortunately, the river is raging outside so ambient noise gets lost in the shuffle. I bet my neighbors can't even hear it. Life is good. Might sleep in a bit mañana (don't tell my boss).

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