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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • RobbZ
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    Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
  • RobbZ
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    Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
  • Thats_Otis
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    Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
  • Oroborous
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    Thanks, another great story!
  • Oroborous
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    Right on 80sfan!
  • Oroborous
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    BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
  • Oroboros
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    But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
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    New story to me...and much appreciated!
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    Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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family event tonite out. wish me luck cuz it sounds like a nitemare and I hate these things.
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I'm never even close on these guesses. Going with a year that isn't on usual rotation for Dave, but it is a big show. I use to think they would save this for a box release, but who knows...... just thinking that the boxes that made us go crazy trying to order, Europe 72 and the Get Shown the light sold out insanely fast, what else is left that would have same effect, (June 9, 10 1973) is one i think... I thought the Northwest would be gone so fast, be good everyone bob t
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I don't care who ya are; that's funny right there!
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Ha!!
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....OK that is pretty good. But the small hands thing is getting sooooo old.
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The Vatican is the biggest criminal organization in the history of the human race.A summary, but by no means complete: Excommunicate Galileo because we all know that the sun revolves around the earth. Pay us money to get your relatives out of purgatory. Look the other way while Hitler exterminates an entire race. Look the other way while your own priests molest children. I await the personal attacks......
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Midnight Cafe' booty...Northwest style... Chris Cornell 9-7-2006 solo/acoustic Stockholm,Sweden (he's doing Soundgarden,Temple Of The Dog,Audioslave & Marley,Costello,Led Zeppelin & Michael Jackson covers...Billy Jean is different to say the least...) get some... Got a Stevie Wonder from London in '74 as well... just sayin'...get some... :o)
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Jerry's guitar solo is phenomenal. Real loud, check it out. Weir and Keith are hittin' it too, they're just not up in the mix like Jerry is. The Cassidy is pretty cool too, more like the studio arrangement.
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Don't forget that virtually everything inside the Vatican museum was stolen from other cultures.
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So I wonder.. how many times was the following sequence played: Playing in the Band > Uncle John's Band > Morning Dew > Uncle John's Band > Playing in the Band Or frankly any sequence and combination of the above classic medley. Certainly DP 24 (3/23/73 Cow Palace) and DaP 5 (11/17/73 Pauley Pavilion UCLA) but I suspect more. If I get a chance, I just might research it myself. Then there's the seemingly endless variants like 10/12/84 Augusta ME, the Playing in the Band sandwiches, etc. All interesting on their own. But how many of the classic PITB>UJB>MD>UJB>PITB medleys?
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So many of my favorite shows have "Sugaree" in the second slot. I wonder what that means? Probably a good bet that aliens are involved in some fashion.
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Jim, other than the two you mention (you meant 3-23-74) the only other time was 11-10-73. Pretty sure those are the only times. If I missed another, please let me know, but pretty sure it was only those three times. I like Pauley best, but truth be told, they all fail a bit in the end for me, as I find each Morning Dew is sacrificed at the end to roll back into UJB.
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This guy's favorite song is Sugaree. You can tell it's his favorite song by the rhythm in his stride and the way he dances. You might recognize him in some of the homemade recordings and crowd footage from Watkins Glen or perhaps his veggie burrito booth in shakedown. I don't think he's an alien at all.. just some residual French or perhaps a Brazilian accent. Rio, yes.. 3/23/74. Thanks for the quick reply.. I didn't think there were too many. And I agree with your Morning Dew not fully developed or forced transition issue. Still, the sequence is very cool. Imagine how it might have developed if they did it four or five times instead of just three.
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No personal attacks just a little weight on the other side of the seesaw. Catholic Church very active in the american civil rights movement. The Catholic church very heavily involved in the antiwar movement of the 1960's & 70's. Your point about turning the other way during WW2 has been proven false by academics but is a good example Goelbbels "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating, it, people will eventually come to believe it.In addition as Hitler asked how many divisions does the Pope have. Add to those 2 points like most bigots you leave out inconvenient facts like the number of priests and higher who at great danger to themselves stood up to and actively fought fascism. Karol Jozef Wojtyla better known as Pope John Paul II. In his case the world got a twofer he also also stood up what is arguably an even more destructive (in terms of lives destroyed and length of time in power) totalitarian sysem.Do you hate the French, they had far more arms and military. They not only surrendered but the Vichy Republic actively participated in the final solution. A couple of your points are 500 years old and irrelevant today. Now for the part that your post had none of namely acknowledging there is more than one side. The Catholic church is guilty of toadying up to very bad governments IN THE PAST. Some good examples would be Spain and Mexico. That was bad and is acknowledged by all including the church but since WW2 it has been very active in fighting the authoritarian governments especially in Latin America Nicaragua and El Salvador being 2 Bishop Romero was killed by Somsatistas giving mass and in El Salvador 4 nuns were brutally raped and killed by Roberto D'Aubuisson's right wing death squads. The hierarchy's behavior with the pederasty scandal is inexcusable and they have been rightly called to task for it. As always, and I never cease to be amazed at this with people and organizations with power is the cover up. If when the the 1st murmurs started making the rounds in the 70's or better yet when the higher ups heard the whispers in the hallways of power much earlier had dealt quickly and unflinchingly they would be able to fend off the anti-catholic bigots.And they still exist especially in certain parts of the country and of course the world. Don't believe it read up on what's happening in countries of north africa and through the levant In summary the modern Catholic Church (not really interested in 500 years ago) has been an overwhelming force for good with the glaring exception of the coverup of pederasts Finally while I was brought up Catholic My own beliefs for me personally is not to belong to any hierarchical group humans being humans there simply is too much temptation
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We have successfully conflated religion, politics and seemingly not the Grateful Dead into the same paragraph. Infinitely amused. Will I have to stay awake very long before we find a way to add in human trafficking or the Ruffilin Dating Network into the conversation? Infinitely amused.
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Dear Dave and TPTB, Please Plangent>Normanize 2-26-77 as soon as humanly possible. God Bless America and the GOGD. And, what about Gainsvill3?!
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I wonder if the next Dave's Pick will feature a second song Sugaree. Anybody else wonder? Or are we still talking politics and religion? Edit: VGuy, that joke cracked me up. Good work injecting a little levity to the thread.
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.... I'll be honest. I had to look it up. I like that word. The more you know. Currently listening to some Madness. Any love out there?
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According to The SetList Program these three tunes were played in the same show 30 times including the 3 sandwiches. 2/23/71 the first, 3/27/94 the last. I was lucky enough to see 12/27/89 with C. Clemons.
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Sugaree is the classic Jerry song. I associate this one closely with JGBand since my first two Jerry Bootlegs were 2/28/80 Keene College (eventually released in the Pure Jerry series) and 7/24/80 at the Bushnell in Hartford. Both these shows are great and both opened with wonderful Sugarees. Laid back campfire vibe, great soloing, and Jerry just always feels at home in this one. When played with the Dead, I always enjoyed it. "Just don't tell 'em you knoooooow me...."
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You forgot to defend molesting children. That’s pretty modern, isn’t it? Now bring on that DaP 27 announcement with a Sugaree in the second slot.
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i remember reading a long time ago Captain Trips played all the instruments minus drums to record studio track !! that song gets me almost every time , rollup a few, sit back and enjoy the show 5.26.77 The Music Never Stopped Sugaree ! Mama Tried Sunrise ! Deal Passenger ! Brown Eyed Women Looks Like Rain Jack-A-Roe New Minglewood Blues Bertha Samson And Delilah High Time ! Big River Terrapin Station -> Estimated Prophet -> Eyes Of The World -> Drums -> Not Fade Away -> Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> Around And Around Encore ~ Uncle John's Band Rhino send out some recordings ~ 1983 Fall Tour and 1984 Spring / Summer !!!!! Fillmore 1970 !!! Bring on 4.3.70 (Cincinnati) and Fillmore West April 1970 !!!! Got lucky and meet one of the Owsley family members at Blossom last month, oh boy !! sampled a Candyman and suggested the Cincinnati show from April 1970, that peaked his interest JimInMD , check out 11.1.73 tasty sandwich
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Either you didn't read my post or you need to go back to school. What the hell do you think pederasty means,which I spent a good portion of my post taking the church to task on for the actions and even more importantly the systemwide coverup. But that seems to be the problem today. Doesn't matter left or right people aren't interested in paying attention to any view but their own and their echo chamber. For your edification since you're to lazy to improve your vocabulary pederast man sexal arousal over a boy. Pedophile an adult getting aroused by a child of opposite sex. The former is the overwhelming amount of crimes that were committed and covered up by the church. What you seem to be incapable of is recognizing and acknowledging all the other points in my post that take on your anti Catholic bigotry. Let me know when you finish 6th grade. And in response to your silly remark about Da27 as if I was the one who started this thread. I was simply responding to your hatred spewed. You even specifically asked for responses albeit you expected vitriolic attacks which any one who cares to read my 1st post on your attact had none.
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Icecrmcnkd is a bigot. Never would have thought. But tell me Icecrmcnkd. How many Rabbis or Mullahs are guilty of the same crimes against children? There has to be a number right? Cant be zero, there are too many for that to be statistically possible. What about other professions? So go ahead and make a fair evaluation, since child welfare is such a grave humanitarian concern for you. What's that, you don't know because you only approach the subject when you're in full out bigot mode. You're no longer welcome on this message board. Goodbye.
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I didn’t read your first post in detail. I tried to but gave up due to the incomplete and/or run-on sentences. And the DaP 27 wasn’t actually directed at you.
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As snafu said, I’m ignorant. So please, enlighten me by answering your own questions.
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Do you know for a fact that I am not one of those children who was molested by a priest?
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I'm waking up to strong coffee and old Aerosmith this morning. Getting ready to go to Water World. Ah, summer. Peace y'all. \m/
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....remind me not to tell anymore jokes.
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Yea, it’s Vguys vault...Instigator!! LOL All I know is more unessesary blood has been shed in the name of religion on this planet then any other reason....... Read Durkheim’s Elementary forms of the Religious Life to understand why we even have religion...
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IMHO- based on the clues, and yes it also has the below discussed sammy that wasn't mentioned in the SETLIST.com search...BRING IT!!! RV 3 should be excited! St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/10/81) Jack Straw Sugaree Mama Tried Mexicali Blues Loser Cassidy Brown Eyed Women C.C. Rider Ramble on Rose Let it Grow Don't Ease Me In Samson and Delilah Althea Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World drums Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band China Doll Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band Around and Around Good Lovin' Casey Jones
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The studio version is okay-but for years, the only version I knew was the one on "Steal Your Face", and as such, I wasn't overly impressed. In fact I wasn't overly impressed with any of the pre-retirement versions I subsequently heard, either. I thought they were okay-but just okay. But after they came back-especially during 1977, it really seemed to grow wings and fly. Curious how some songs were transformed into epics, while others were left simply as songs.
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I think one of my favorite versions is the one on To Terrapin 5/28/77. That show just seems to flow nice every time I listen. My Theory on the Diffusion of Fools and Knaves: every group, whether political, religious, racial, cultural, profession, etc. has it's share of fools and knaves as they are spread throughout humanity in a fairly even distribution, much like a drop of dye spreads through a glass of clear water. Better to judge people as an individual rather than based on what group you perceive them to be a part of, but that's just my view.
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That Sugaree from 5/28/77 is spinning now and it is one of my favorites. 19 minutes of sweet, Sugaree goodness.
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You mean ones that contain facts as opposed to ad hominem attacks. And you still act as though the only point you made, and I responded to was the admittedly heinous acts and coverups with children. How about the churchs work with the war, civil rights, El Salvador Guatemala. The rebuttal to your blood libel on WW2. I may run on you lie and twist what others say. Once again contact me when you get out of 6th grade
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...a friend of my mothers read my post from a week ago or so and gifted me a boxset for my birthday for August 3rd! I’m so grateful and full of emotional humbleness for her love... I made my mother pinch me to make sure I wasn’t dreaming lol some where over the rainbow ;)
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Strange, I was listening to March 22, 1972 Academy of Music - New York, NY with a 2nd set Sugaree.I am still holding out for 1979 Dave's Pick.
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catholic church is still better than the Children of God cult. their leader was a pedophile, and it was pretty accepted to make advances towards minors. p.s. Hitler pretty much told those churches to be run a certain way or he would have them killed, well maybe not killed but they were forced to be run the way Hitler wanted them to be ran.
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12/1/79 is my pick for Dap 27. Set 1 Jack Straw -> Sugaree Me And My Uncle -> Big River Loser Easy To Love You New Minglewood Blues Althea The Music Never Stopped Set 2 China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Looks Like Rain He's Gone -> C C Rider -> Space -> Drums -> Not Fade Away -> Black Peter -> Sugar Magnolia Encore One More Saturday Night
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