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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    If the grid crashes from a solar flare....
    .... you digital fans are gonna be lamenting. Lol. Just trying to make my case.Then again, if my house burns down.... And to those who have received the box already, where is the # located? That's a serious question.
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    "Gives one a sense of well being"....
    ....isn't that what listening to the Dead is all about? I mean, in the end, isn't that the event horizon? Whether it be physical, digital, DAT, cassette, vinyl, 4th dimension? We all know why we're here. Sad that some have received damaged goods. Rhino makes good in the end though. Time waits for no one, especially a Deadhead. (unless it's Boise '83 to some. Yeah. I jabbed). It's the medicine that cures the ills of my world. Spinning 10.1.94 from Boxilla now. Yeah. A diamond in the '94 rough. If you get confused, listen to the music play....
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    Exactly. It's going to take me months to digest this release. Time well spent.
  • MadDoc
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    What people are experiencing is one of the reasons I gave up on physical product. I was always anxious about deliveries in the rain, crushed box sets, skippy cds, etc. I realize GD box sets are like aquiring a work of art. I loved looking at all my CDs and box sets. Gives one a sense of well being. What flipped me was discovering that my E72 discs were getting scuffed from pulling them out of the cardboard cases. Also, we're downsizing and the less stuff the better. I ripped my insane collection and the collection is boxed up. To what purpose I know not. I still buy Dave's Picks cds because there's no other format. Not even sure where I'm going with this. The music in this set is some of the best ever released IMHO.
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    that's the way we became the clusterbunch
    it's disheartening to hear about people having issues with this release. I hope I get good, clean CDs, fully recorded. Casey > Greatest love it Monday or Tuesday, baby
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    I'm aware of first songs from sets having the problem of drop outs and then adjustments are made. That's not what I'm talking about. I've only listened to two concerts and there are other instances. In the 5/19/74 show the sound flat out sucks from Sugaree (the 9th song) through at least CCS/IKYR. If there are more I will be unhappy. The price charged is too much, IMHO, for soundboard problems as I've heard so far.
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    Not gonna lie, this box looks amazing
  • adamos71
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    Mine just arrived. It’s really cool looking, but unfortunately the box lid has an indented line on the top, like someone wrote on a piece of paper on top of it. Much more importantly 14 of the 19 discs have multiple scratches, scuffs and/or marks. Several also have fingerprints or smudges. It’s definitely disappointing, but I’m sure they’ll resolve the problems. Based on this and some of the other comments I’d advise everyone to check their CDs closely.
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    That's a great, well thought out article! Thanks for sharing it. I should have qualified my sentiments. The CD IS going down for the count. It won't be digital files that will do it. It will be streaming. The average music listener will not be bothered to do something as work-a-day as download music files to keep. As you point out, they will pay for the service and pay for the same music forever. DVD's are going to take it in the derriere as well. My Comcast rep said their main focus as far as the way they stingily dole out their bandwidth is TV streaming. They care nothing about anything else. They have seen the future and it is streaming. The collector is something different altogether. The "rare" cd's I have found in the past were oddly enough found in cut out bins at a Coconuts Music. Pretty much the CD equivalent to "EP's". And as you adroitly pointed out, the 20-something sniffed at the CD equivalent of "Hum" and wanted the "retro" feel of vinyl, even though vinyl was "executed" probably at the time of his birth. The millennial finds value in things that were popular pre birth and has an ironic "kitsch" value. Something he and his friends can gather around and stare at while drinking their microbrews and put their two cents in about the anthropological value of such a find. I found myself at my very first "Record Store Day" earlier this year. Bought the GD 1969/02/28 Fillmore show on vinyl and an Elvis Presley piece "The King In The Ring". Loves me some "1968 Comeback Special" What is odd about that is I have no turntable nor a desire to even open the vinyl! I suspect the vinyl was mastered from the Fillmore West box set tapes and not a fresh remaster. Same with the EP vinyl, likely mastered from the 40th Annivesary CD box set. Why do I want these things? I have no idea. I think much of it gets back to sentimentality as you alluded to in your article. "But the decline of the CD feels sharp and sudden – and more than a little shocking to those of us who came of age as consumers alongside the rise of the format." We get to "a certain age" and nostalgia sets in. Ironic or not (Less ironic to those of us who grew up with LP's), everything is retro and things that were once common become a tongue in cheek in joke to those if us who remember. Those who don't remember do it as a person my age might decorate their homes with 1930's art deco trappings. Everything runs on a 20-25 year retro cycle.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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I'd like a copy. Does it have El Paso? I love Bobby the Cowboy. Pow pa-pow pow! I can't wait another minute for this box set. But only one Dark Star? Waah. Ouch, I think I cut my lip shaving.
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Orajel works great for that.
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Not that lip.
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just keep moving, stoltzie...
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Ha.. Did we just lose our G rating and entered the land of PG13? Happy Tuesday folks.. Had a great little ride running errands. Started with a pumping albeit short 1970 Cumberland Blues from El Monte CA and when the radio failed to produce I hit play on the CD drive and was treated to a nice electric On The Road Again and my first ever Peggy-O. It was Pretty-O. A serendipitous drive.
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From Sweeney Todd (the contest) To shave-a the face To pull-a the toot' Require the grace And not the brute For if-a you slip You nick-a the skin You clip-a the chin You rip-a the lip a bit And that's-a the trut'
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A pal just sent me a snippet of a 2001 interview with Kirk West in the ABB camp: First, Kirk notes that the ABB played 45-60 minute opening sets for the GD in Feb '70, which leads me to believe that the upcoming ABB Feb '70 release is at least two discs that will augment the 1997 release of a compilation of Feb 11 and 14. Then Kirk said: "We were also working on two other projects that had release potential - the Dead loved the idea and we loved the idea. These were to be a package from the RFK and Watkins Glen ('73) shows... We went through them and edited them and pieced things together. We were going to do a four-CD release: two Dead, two Brothers.... Then shortly after that, the Brothers sued Polygram, and things got jumbled up. The lawsuits aren't quite resolved yet. Once they are, we'd like to finally get it out..." Unfortunately, if lawsuits ongoing in 2001 were a problem, what to think after 17 years? At least we know that both RFK and Watkins tapes exist, that the GD took a shot at releasing them in tandem with ABB, and now, I'd guess, the "project" is on hold. I'd also guess that the GD knew that RFK 6/9/73 had weak moments, but this info sounds like the GD were willing to release an edited version of 6/10/73. And they knew their 7/28/73 set (the official Watkins set) was not uniformly strong, though the soundcheck (I can tell you from experience) was a real highlight. The shocker, if you will, is that the GD was willing to edit 3 1/2 shows down to 2 discs (160 minutes music, max). Perhaps with Dave L in charge and the success of the DaPs, the GD will realize that those 3 1/2 shows deserve a light edit at best. And they'll make the ABB tapes available to the ABB when the latter are ready to move forward with it. Anyway, I found that tidbit fascinating and hope Dave L now has a firmer hand on what to do with 6/10 and 7/27. Or the whole hot mess...
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I had tons of funny lines to respond to the other lip comment but I rejected them all. With age comes wisdom. Finally.
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If you have an extra 45 minutes and want to get lost in a song ..... wish the whole show was released and not just as a bonus disk!!! but i will take what i can get... be good bob t
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Listening now. I love this mix. Bob is loud and clear in my left ear and i'm loving it. Strong Truckin' to open. A few wobbles in Bertha. It was a new song at this point, in the rotation for less than two months. Seems like one of those songs where no matter how many times they played it, and they played it a ton, they could get out of step on it. Garcia seems to regularly fumble the lyrics, leading to mistakes in the progression. See Berkeley '72 Dave's for another example. Another one I notice a lot is the beginning of BIODTL. More often than not someone plays an extra note on whatever the count is. I take that to be more of a running inside joke than actual mistakes though. Nice 'Next Time You See Me'. Short Playin' coming up, after this tuning jam. Ha Ha. Cool to see Playin blossom from early '71 to the monster 45 minute version we're about to enjoy.Really enjoying Keith's arpeggiated chord work in the high register early in this Playin. Check it out. Slow day at work. Had a nasty head cold over the weekend so I missed the good weather. Im trying to break up this massive blockage in my head with some good dead music. That was a solid Playin. Loved Keith in that one. Lots of noodling during dead air in this show. And someone on the crew on a hot mic. Was following the thread over the past few days and bummed about the sniping, but that's the environment that's being encouraged from above, unfortunately. I'll leave it at that. Everybody's praying, and drinking that wine. Edit: Its not Keith on piano. Who is it? Its definitely not Pig.
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they blew the count on BIODTL
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France in the Final! Dead content: none Stones content: Mick Jagger was attending the game, warming up for England - Croatia
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I think it's "Cowboy Bob", but that's okay ;-) Here's a link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FtN9osrklpik4WmYtK1jsjiMiirpBf3k Sorry, I advertised this show and completely forgot to set up the link. Same to you Lightfoot. P.S. - if you could let me know if I just opened up access to my entire google drive, I'd appreciate it (wasn't my intention). If I did...please...just don't delete the porn. I don't care what happens to the rest of it, but leave the porn.
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Downloaded and enjoying every minute of it. When I'm finished I'll give 4/8/71 a listen.
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....my son has been on a Marty Robbins bender lately. Better than that dubstep crap he was listening to.
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Hey KF, I was rummaging through all the detail on that link too. Many thanks man. I downloaded the show and it sounds great. I also think I accidentally downloaded some other random directory. In opening it I had to reset the password to see the contents and it appears to be all your Bitcoin data. Now.. I can't seem to remember the new password. Wow.. you had more than 6,500 Bitcoins. A lot, yes? Does anyone out there know how much that is worth and what I have to do to transfer these into things into Thunderbird wine, lottery tickets and Wallmart gift cards? Yes to Big Iron. I always liked Bobby's cover of this. Edit: Sweet. I'm going big and buying a modified pin-striped lime green hopped up turbo charged Gremlin. Thanks KF!
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Thanks Fourwinds that was sweet of you. I heard of Bobby and the Midnights but that was my first time listening. Began like Me and My Uncle it did! And what a handsome young devil our dear Bobby looks:)
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I’m jealous.Although I would be tempted to trade it in for a purple AMC Pacer.
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....just ordered the new Stephen King book Outsider and Hunter S. Thompson's The Great Shark Hunt. On physical paper, cause reading books on a screen isn't the same. Not by a longshot. Halfway through Mother American Night. Liking it....purple AMC Pacer? I would drive it.
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....that the interior of Jupiter is made up of liquid metallic hydrogen. Mind. Blown.
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Shipping notice for Anthem received! Sweet. New show on the way.Vguy-I just finished The Outsider. It's fun. Enjoy. HST is a favorite also. Great read. :o)
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This is an old article, republished, with the people who came up with HDCD. If you have a cd player that has this built in you can hear the difference(s). This will explain, in detail, the whole HDCD process. Enjoy the interview article. Mr. Pete-------------> aging hippie
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I do NOT work for Emotiva but they make very good products. If you are in the market for a cd replacement this model plays HDCD discs. It is priced around $300 which is not bad for a good quality cd player. So, if you have a LOT of dead HDCD's you might give this player some thought. They also make an audiophile cd player for twice the price. I am sure it is excellent...but worth twice the money??? If you have a good stereo you will notice a better sound quality. If you are depressed over the current political situation(s) this might help "snap" you out of your.....funk! Have a nice day. Mr. Pete----------> aging hippie
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Mr Pete A good way to check the difference between hdcd and none is the original vault 2 didn't have it and the 3 cd reissue does. The difference is readily apparent
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Me and My Uncle ~ 7.21.72 ~ Paramount Northwest Theatre ~ Seattle, Washington One of my favorites Werewolves of London ~ 4.19.78 ~ Vet's Memorial Auditorium ~ Columbus, Ohio During drums the band is prepping for the encore with a few wolf howls Hey daverock, World Cup , I'm pulling for England, at the start of tourney the three teams I was expecting to see near the end and rated as best were England, France, Brasil. Harry Kane is a top tier player in this tournament and I expect him to be the difference in today's match. Overall, a lot of the matches have been entertaining , but I feel this has been one of the weaker World Cups. The national teams seem like junior varsity compared to what they have been in previous tournaments
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Kurt V is/was one of if not the favorite author of this aging freak. The respect is still there but I found a few years ago when I was going to reread all his books that I read years ago I couldn't do it. His cynacism and irory is so depressing I just couldn't do it. Mother Night's a good example. Have you read Player Piano? His 1st and to me his best and so true. It's funny nowadays I read nonfiction I read a 3 vol history of the 3rd Reich but can't read Slaughterhouse Five As far as real books vs kindle hands down I prefer books. The tactile effect, the photos maps etc.
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PHISH, TUESDAY 07/11/2000 DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER Noblesville, IN SET 1: Ya Mar, The Moma Dance, Uncle Pen, Drowned, Chalk Dust Torture Reprise > Chalk Dust Torture, Theme From the Bottom > Cavern SET 2: Also Sprach Zarathustra > Down with Disease -> Moby Dick > Down with Disease > Runaway Jim -> Moby Dick, Back on the Train -> Moby Dick > Back on the Train, Harry Hood > Moby Dick, Hold Your Head Up > Terrapin > Hold Your Head Up > Moby Dick[1] > Hold Your Head Up, Character Zero ENCORE: First Tube > Moby Dick > Chalk Dust Torture Reprise [1] Trey on drums and Fish on vacuum. In keeping with the theme of the second set, Hood included a Moby Dick tease. Trey introduced Fish as “Russell Crowe” during Terrapin. The Moby Dick inside of the HYHU jam featured Trey on drums and Fish on vacuum. The Chalk Dust Reprise was akin to the version last played on December 10, 1994 (391 shows), with the band singing the words “Chalk Dust Torture” over varied music. At the end of the encore, Trey joked that, if anyone missed anything, they should read the book or see the movie. Prior to this show, Moby Dick had not been played since November 29, 1997 (172 shows).
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Flashback!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkkbJ_KI2Y For the first 46 minutes of this 52 minute clip, Jerry delights us, well he delighted me, with his views of music and about at the 46 minute mark, "LATVALA COMES ALIVE" Dick Latvala gives us a mini tour of the Grateful Dead vault back when everything was either at the Front Street site or at Bel Marin Keys, and Jerry's vault was still residing with the rest of the Grateful Dead and solo projects vault.
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There is an article on ESPN about the behind the scenes stuff surrounding LeBron James and the Lakers...this part made me chuckle: Luke's father, Bill Walton, would call him from a Grateful Dead concert to help celebrate. "Yeah, and he had [drummer] Mickey Hart in the background yelling at me that, 'The rhythm is the answer to everything in life,'" Luke Walton said with a laugh. "So once I figure out what that means, we'll be good."
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so good to hear and see ol' Jer again. and remember: "Latvala!"
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A cool article on the going on 5 year old SF Jazz Center. Quite a place. Anything that touches on jazz or is somehow related fits the bill. David Grisman and Taj Majal among the upcoming artists there this summer. Says it has 95% occupancy with many sold old shows, and over 470 performances per year. I gotta get down there more often. Great to see this thriving in today's music (ahem) environment. https://www.sfgate.com/music/article/SFJazz-hits-high-note-at-5-year-ma…
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I have pre-order most of the box sets. Did not get Fillmore, E72, (was sent download files) and the first Spring 90 box. Had SBDs of Fillmore and '90 so I didn't feel the need. Anyway, I just re-ordered 7/78. My pre-order set was numbered 12568, the re-order was 4482. seems strange?
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These things probably come boxed on a big palate.. and even if they are arranged numerically when they first set foot in the US, they get unboxed, taken off the palate and put on shelves in a warehouse in whatever order they are unpacked. Then as the shelf size shrinks.. they probably get moved at least once to make room for more material. Long story short.. it would cost money to keep them in any kind of order throughout the entire process and they would get exactly zero for the extra effort. Have you ever tried to put something in order with a run size of 18k? Reminds me of two accounting concepts LIFO and FIFO. LIFO is Last In First Out.. like if you are restacking something with a long shelf life or moving gravel (or perhaps big stacks of CD sets). FIFO is First In First Out, good for perishables or something with a shelf life. Makes perfect sense to me, simple economics. Way to go staying up on July 78. Great box.
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Yes, England seem to be doing alright. I am not a big football fan, but I have been watching the odd game-with the sound down and some music playing in the background. England seem workmanlike, rather than inspired, from what I have seen. I watched France and Belgium last night, and France looked a lot more skilful-though I wasn't so keen on all the diving they did, pretending to be tripped up when they hadn't been. Brazil were the worst in this respect. I was glad to see the back of them. Last night I was listening to 10th November 1973-the Playing-Uncle Johns-Morning Dew-Uncle Johns-Playing jam. What an exceptional piece of music. Its not the best time to say it, but I've always enjoyed 1972 versions of Playing more than those from subsequent years. They just feel so energetic and exploratory-a raging storm. But that 1973 version is beautiful-its restrained compared to ones from 72, but its so calm and dreamlike, as I said on the other board. Every member of the band plays in perfect response to everyone else. I don't think I've ever enjoyed it as much as I did last night. Anyway, I'm off-its kick off time in a minute.
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England off to a good start...5 minutes in, killer free kick!
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I am finding it hard not to get sucked into this game.. but I'd rather be outside. Ok..... just five more minutes.
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Such a typical England performance - snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. So often they play so poorly it beggars belief, and tonight was such a performance. People cannot imagine how stressful it is being an England supporter. It is not for nothing that the most common songs to hear on the terraces during and England game are "The great escape" and "Mission impossible". Four more years.
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;) Yeah, yeah, I know, my team didn’t even make the playoffs. They choked so much this season they turned blue. I’m not watching soccer, am watching TDF when I can. Keeping with the pre-Box warm-up, going with 4-2-73 at the moment.
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