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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • #641
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    I dig '80' Dead, it's just another chapter in the book. Things can change with age and still be good. For example, I find that the ageing of Jerry's voice makes some of the later era versions of Black Peter just that much more poignant, and some of the '80-'90's drums-space sequences were awesome vehicles for some improvisational jamming and wicked transitions from space into whatever came next. And yes, relatively speaking, the Dead were the best game in town in the '80's, a decade in which there seemed little to excite me musically. As far as the parking lot scene, I dug that too - who doesn't like a big, mellow, party before a show? There did seem to be a little more of a frenzy about the scene later, but I attribute that to the increasing difficulty in getting tickets due to the increase in demand, and perhaps a lack of discretion amongst some of the eager partier's in the parking lot. Really the only show that I left disappointed was a '94 show at the Meadowlands in NJ, that one I left bummed. On another note, deadnet can't seem to decide if I'm a robot or not - took me like 3 tries to get that captcha to work.
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    It's a matter of taste
    To me the Dead were all about the free form, experimental, jam music.At one time Garcia was the greatest improvisational guitarist. He just couldn't keep that up as the years went by and he got caught up in hard drugs, due to keeping the Dead going. Some people like the "songs". They are okay as filler to me, but it's his jams that I wanted to hear. Even the jams later on became kind of rote. I'm all into things like disk 2 of Dick's Pick's #8, to give you the best example. That is the greatest Dead ever, and they never lived up to that again. As I've said before, I wished they had quit after 1977 and Jerry could do solo stuff and maybe lived longer. He died trying to keep the Dead machine alive because he was employing too many friends and didn't want to quit on them. Anyway, I'll stop. To each their own.
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    First of all, I completely respect your opinion. At the shows, I also listened intently to all the players, how they interacted, and especially Jerry's solo's and his singing. I surrounded myself on the floor with 20 friends who were all silently listening and enjoying song after song. The band continually changed, adding new songs, changing older ones, reworking their sound, and the 80's versions of the band were different than the 70's and 60's, and clearly not your cup of tea. I respect that. Perhaps they were still musically interesting to the careful listener, like myself, even in the 80's and 90's. I appreciated all the versions, and listened to each one.
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    Mediocre in the '80's, yes
    A rare person will agree with me, so let's just say to each their own."bopping, dancing, swirling"...so what? It's easy to dance to any music with a beat. I listen INTENTLY to every note of the music - Jerry's guitar and how the band interacts musically. Not just the "funnestness" of it! LOL! Is that a word? Compared to their earlier music, they were truly mediocre in the later years. I compare them to their own best music, not to what else is out there at the time. It would not be hard to beat what was happening musically in those later years, but they could not compare to what they themselves did earlier. And by the way, MTV destroyed music. When they came onto to scene, music became showmanship and true music was lost. "I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's" Yeah, he was dead.
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    Mediocre???
    I saw the dead regularly in the 70's 80's and 90's right to the end in '95, and they were rarely mediocre. I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's. But musically show after show, run after run, they were guaranteed to be the funnest, best shows in town, over and over again. All those shows I attended people everywhere around me were bopping, dancing, swirling around if there was room. Clearly people enjoying the music. They grew and grew in popularity due to their allowing tape recording of their shows, massive tape trading, and a reputation for great shows. Then along came MTV's "Day of the Dead", and "In The Dark" with their radio hit "Touch of Grey", and that bumped their attendance up a lot. Some would say too much, as they began losing some of their coolest venues. That is the true downside of their growing popularity, the parking lot scene got way out of hand, and even when the show was happening inside, there was a huge group of folks outside who just came for the parking lot party. Mediocre? Hardly.
  • #646
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    MDJim is right
    compared to any other live shows in the 80s there were few bands worth seeing more than once a tour as most popular bands played the same exact show every night for the whole tour. now most of the SBD recordings of that time are flawed and because of the nature of the mix the flaws become accentuated, but a good AUD allows you to hear what the people in the concert heard and it is not as bad as the SBD tapes make it seem.
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    Almost through...and a funny story
    I'm almost through the first complete chronological listen. I'm up to the massive Seattle 74 Playin', scheduled for tonight's listen. Wonderful sound overall. On first listen the 73 Vancouver has a better mix than the other two 73's. The 74's sound better than the 73's. I chalk that up to their perfecting the Wall configuration(s) in 73. True also the first sets have many repeated songs, but they are played so well! Every show has really strong jazzy jams that were the hallmark of 73-74. Most of the shows have a strong Bobby presence, which I really love. I love to hear the awesome wierd imaginative chords he plays. However, I'm listening to Seattle 74, and he seems lost in the mix, kinda there, but not prominent. Funny thing happened on the way home with my box. My box was delivered to work. I was on the train coming home with the box on my lap, and a guy sitting across from me was eyeing the box and said: "Pardon me, is that a box of smoked salmon?"
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    You are probably right about most of your post.But one issue I'll never change my opinion about: the Dead were mediocre in the '80's and into the '90's (a great show was rare) and that is when their popularity soared.
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    Re: MORE popular as their music became worse
    Not so sure about that.. I saw a ton of live music during this period.. not just the GD. Seeing a better live act in the 80's than the boys was an elusive task, comparatively they still delivered night after night. If I accept the premise that they had declined (I'd prefer to sidestep that controversy altogether).. Bands that performed better in this era were few and far between. Might I say.. they were still kick ass and if care and attention went into recording shows, I bet opinions would shift too. Their numbers grew gradually, over the years. The term 'on the bus' is exactly correct.. As for the parking lot/zoo scene, I think that's a separate issue than the music.. but I still believe the whole scene was 90%+ about the music. I wouldn't bang on fourwinds for what is clearly word choice and semantics. I think there's a quote from Jerry in Long Strange Trip where he admits he used to sabotage their success. I see this issue as one where there is truth on both sides and reality meets somewhere in the middle. Jerry was a serious musician, Mountain Girl is quick to point out how much he practices and what a professional musician he was, especially in the early years.. up very early every day practicing scales and working out problems. Anyway.. If I had the crystal ball of truth, I bet you two aren't as far apart as it appears and from afar, you both have points..
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    Dude, you misunderstood Jerry
    He was a VERY serious musician and the quality of his music mattered a GREAT DEAL to him.He was super bummed when they played bad. Maybe your attitude explains something I never totally understood: why the Dead became MORE popular as their music became worse and worse. The masses don't have the ear to hear what's good or bad. They just liked the "scene" and the music was unimportant.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Submitted by Pancho Pantera on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 10:54

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Greetings GD Community. Apologies to all for the interruption to this board. I am requesting some help for some information from a previous post in this board. I believe that someone posted a comment to this board recently and included that they were a Sandy Denny fan. I have searched and searched the posts for the past several days and I cannot locate it. Perhaps, I never saw this. Or never saw it here. Well, I thought I would ask for some help from you all. If there is anyone that noticed that post and can help me locate it, or perhaps the person who posted it, would you please be able to PM with that information? It would be much appreciated. I thank you all for your time in reading this message. Again, my apologies for the interruption to the discussions. Hope everyone has a beautiful day. Regards
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PHISH, MONDAY 07/12/1999 TWEETER CENTER Mansfield, MA Soundcheck: My Best Friend's Girlfriend, Centerfold, Dream On, Rift SET 1: Foreplay/Long Time[1] > Down with Disease, Back on the Train, What's the Use?, Split Open and Melt, Water in the Sky > Character Zero SET 2: Twist > The Moma Dance > Makisupa Policeman > David Bowie, The Lizards, Guyute ENCORE: Rock and Roll [1] First Phish electric version. Foreplay/Long Time was played for the first time since December 9, 1994 (310 shows) and was the first time Phish had ever performed it electric. Guyute was followed by band introductions, including Mike as "Michael Jordan" and "Air Jordan."
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 11:28

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Thanks for the recommendations, danc. I only really discovered King Crimson recently myself, and I have never heard many of the bands you mention. I will definitely do some exploring. Soft Machine are still touring, and are superb live. They are now led by Theo Travis on sax and John Etheridge on guitar. I also bought a cd by Ray Russell last year, called "Rites and Rituals" which is worth a listen. One new band I came across a few years ago, who play a very frenetic amalgamation of jazz and rock are Norways Elephant9. I saw them at the esteemed jazz venue, Ronnie Scotts, and they blew the roof off the joint. At the intermission, seasoned jazzers could be seen leaving the venue-and I overhead one pundit say-"You can't call THAT jazz!"-They were that good. As to the difference between prog and fusion...I'm not sure! I always think of prog as being more orchestrated-less improvisational and maybe more influenced by light European classical music. Fusion seems to stem from Bitches Brew. Although the free jazz movement of the early 60s is in there, too-Ornette Coleman, Sun Ra, John Coltrane. There were so many categories of music, all loosely played by so called "underground" bands in the early-mid 70s in Britain. Not only the above two, but also space rock-Hawkwind and Gong, heavy rock-Deep Purple and Black Sabbath, folk-Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band, blues-Rory Gallagher, The Groundhogs. None of these categories were recognised as such at the time, I don't think-but there was some great music being played across the spectrum. In about 1974, it all seemed to get very stale,though, and in 1976 we had the new, supposedly improved version of rock. Punk. That's one way of looking at it anyway!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 11:40

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No disrespect meant Oroborous.. meant in a whimsical, alter ego way.. I'd expect the evil twin as having all the fun too.. think Dr. Evil.. not two horns, likes heat evil. Again.. said in jest, no disrespect meant.
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Submitted by MDJim on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 11:46

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Deal's a deal.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 12:17

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None taken me amigo, just messing around. In fact, I think I’m the one who started the “evil twin” thing : ) 4/27/71: that was fun, not sure I’ve ever heard any of that, especially The Beach Boys stuff. Great Lovelight.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 12:19

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Hey Jim, think I saw him down by the corner taking to some a, “plus sized gal” something about the Brooklyn Bridge.....
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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 13:24

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Oroboros.....another great story. Nothing tops the Dragon (Oroboros) story, but a Grate One all the same! Coincidentally, I have had Road Trips Volume 2, No. 3 downloaded on my phone, and therefore on regular rotation lately. Only problem is that it's only a partial show. Does anyone have a complete SBD of this show? If so, I would sure appreciate a copy....I have checked my files and can't find one. One thing......since the statute of limitations is past, how about that side story? (you mentioned you would only focus on the show story). You're such a good story teller, I have a feeling it's probably entertaining! Do tell!! Edit: An SBD of that Allman Bros show from KC in 74 would also be sweet!!! I wonder if that exists somewhere?
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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 13:45

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Can't escape the uniqueness of this set... jam>drums>jam>jack a roe.. playing in the band>shakedown street>if i had the world to give>playing in the band>around and around... the 10 minute jam to start set 2 is unlike anything else they ever did!!! The If I Had the World to Give makes me have the same feeling as Comes a Time from 5/9/77 or Mission in the Rain from 6/29/76.. oh well. be good bob t
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 14:40

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CCR was my first "big" show. MSG in May 1970. CCR was one of the top bands at the time and they were great! John Fogarty is an awesome song writer & performer. Booker T and the MG's opened. Green Onions & Time is Tight! Yeah baby. I have seen CSN, CN, SY and S solo. I think Stills is my fave. A local record shop has a boot of Stills playing w/ the GD at the Thelma, I think it is the nite before DaP10, 12/11/69. I am sorely tempted to pull the trigger on that one even though I usually do not buy unauthorized boots. Rock on
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 15:00

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You are correct hbob.. 12/10/69, Thelma. I've got it.. check your PM I'm happy to share. He also played with them on 4/16/83 at the Brendon Byrne Arena in NJ. Black Queen both nights. Rumor has it they made a giant series of lines on a mirror backstage that read Stephen Stills and gave it to him. Bet he didn't sleep well that night. When I was in college I had this short gig DJ'ing for the new (at the time) college radio station. I just played my tapes until I sort of ran out of new ones to play. I'd bet what I was doing was not quite legal.. and before Gan's The Grateful Dead Hour, but no one seemed to care enough to complain. I played that Brendon Byrne show and got my one and only phone call.. "Who's that singing Black Queen?" Pirate radio at it's finest.
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 14:56

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CCR were great-but I never really got into CSNY. I was put off by their appearance in the film of Woodstock. I was about 18 when I saw it and liked a bit more oomph with my music. So at Woodstock the music I liked most was Jimi Hendrix, Ten Years After and The Who. I thought Santana was pretty good, too. I used to like "If Only I Could Remember My Name",-the David Crosby solo album featuring members of The Dead. I haven't played it in years, though.
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Submitted by Fulda on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:10

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i have 'ladies and gentlemen' but that is a compilation of a few dates. i'm listening to the archives now - is there a way to download the whole 4/29/71 concert, rather than just stream it? thanks!
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Submitted by Fulda on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:10

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i have 'ladies and gentlemen' but that is a compilation of a few dates. i'm listening to the archives now - is there a way to download the whole 4/29/71 concert, rather than just stream it? thanks!
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Submitted by otheronerat on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:25

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7/13/84 greek would be great, or even a 84 greek box set down the road ??
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:36

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Hey gang! I took a day off from this board and holly smokes, you folks have been active!Caught Neil Young last night...great show! Currently listening to September '74 from TTATS.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:57

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today I was out uber eats driving. I get a call to go to Aurora/Hwy 99. I put in Deep Purple live in Japan 1972. "Highway Star" plays. I see the sign southbound 99 that declares it a "Blue Star Memorial Highway." immediately to the right of the blue star in the rectangle it says "Star Highway." "just as plain as day, it could not be denied" interesting, if nothing else.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 16:58

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11/20/78 GDH 406 If this show existed in better quality you know it'd be Normanized by now. While you compare the IIHTWTG to the Comes A Time from 5/9/77 it takes me to Comes A Time from 5/4/77, the Mission from 6/29/76 has no comparison IMO.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 17:19

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Bolo that was great - the only cure for our affliction is more shows. That is about the size of things isn't it. I thought this was a great statement too: "I walked out of Winterland half-expecting to find a different planet on the other side of the door". I've been blown away by a couple of bands like that. I didn't realize you were that.... you know, I didn't realize your Grateful Dead experience went back to.....that's great you got to see them before the hiatus. Really cool. I would love to hear more about it some time. Hiatus. HiATEus. Hi-ate-us. Funny word, hiatus. Anyway, I didn't have enough time to listen to the whole thing last night, so I'm finishing it right now. I'm in the middle of the Playing in the Band medley, and completely forgot there's a Morning Dew in there. Imagine my delight when I heard the opening chords. 1973 and 1974 I think of my favorite year for that song. I really did Keith's piano. I'm not sure if that was Erik or Jenn, but I concur. 30 Trips 1974 kicks ass. That Lemieux knows how to pick them. Awesome UJB opener, one of my favs. Coincidentally, there's been some talk about the Fillmore East shows from April 71. That was the first version of Uncle John's Band I ever heard, and I still think it's the best one. The only disclaimer I put on that statement is that I'm talking about the core song and not any of the extended jamming that took place as the song developed over the years. But yeah, 30 trips 1974, great show, great sound for 1974 too. I was just listening to that one the other day in the car. I do a little cherry picking of the super good songs when I'm in the car. Really enjoyed the Jack Straw, Peggy-O, Me & My Uncle, Eyes Of The World, Truckin' and Caution Jam. It's kind of funny. My doctor told me I've got some hearing loss in the mid-range. I'm thinking yeah it's those Wall of Sound shows doing that.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 17:15

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Lot of great songs.But the ~16 minute Heard It Through The Grapevine is my favorite. I had it on cassette in the 80’s. It was on CD in the early 90’s but it seems to be out of print. I bought the vinyl recently and the Grapevine was trimmed down to ~3 minutes, cuts out just as the jam is about to begin.
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 17:35

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I just realize that you were talking about Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young all this time. I've seen: CSN X2, CN, Nash, and NY ×10?
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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 18:43

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...this performance was really one of there early performances in playing to a large crowd if my memory serves me right... Here’s some info ——“Scared Shitless ” is not a phrase I would associate with the heaven sent quartet Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, but if my second performance with my band was at Woodstock, I’m sure I would be able to relate. The group formed in 1968 after the fracturing of bands The Hollies, The Byrds, and Buffalo Springfield. The initial lineup consisted of only Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and the band needed more personnel in order to tour, as Steven Stills was responsible for most of the instrumentals. The trio finally settled with Neil Young. Their second concert together was none other than Woodstock 1969. Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young had played only one previous show together prior to Woodstock, and although each member was an experienced musician, the lack of playing together resulted in the band being incredibly nervous. The set included acoustic performances of songs from the first album released without Young, who came out and played as a duo with Stills. They were announced as their former band Buffalo Springfield, although the actual Buffalo Springfield had since disintegrated. After their sink or swim induction into the rock and roll world at Woodstock, they followed up with their first release as a quartet titled “Deja Vu ” which topped the charts and produced three hit singles. Soon after, a hasty move by Young to release his single “Ohio ” dissolved the band ‘s relationship and the band began shifting between releases as a trio and a quartet. As a band, they were never able to recapture the esteem and momentum that they originally possessed. Over the years the band was mainly comprised of different combinations of Crosby, Stills, and Nash, while Young spent most of his time touring with his other backup band Crazy Horse and being at odds with Stephen Stills. After David Crosby ‘s wild ride with drug and firearm charges, Young rejoined the band briefly and they released the album “American Dream ” in 1988 which did make it to number 16 on the charts, but received poor reviews from critics. Young refused to tour on the album and the band would not tour together again until 2006. Their “Freedom of Speech ” tour was launched in support of Young ‘s album “Living With War ” and included new protest songs as well as songs from Stills’ latent release titled “Man Alive “. Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young have always been known for their activism as well as their anti-war mentality. Like many other artists involved with Woodstock, they are again emerging as musicians with a voice who vocalize dissatisfaction with the country ‘s current state of affairs. Crosby, Stills, and Nash were most recently on the Colbert Report where they performed their famous song “Teach Your Children ” from the “Deja Vu ” album. CSNY later went on to record Joni Mitchell’s song “Woodstock”. The song rose up the charts quickly lead by the vocals of Stephen Stills, and instantly became the most recognizable song about the Woodstock festival.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 18:59

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....complete band twice. NY solo twice. That's it.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:09

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Think it was 4/16 Black Queen and 4/17 Love the one your with. (Would have to look up?)Had great tape of that and some bastard stole it, probably that MDJim... Definetly check out the Love the one your with, Phil brings the roof down! Edit: Steve sounds like he did that whole Mirror!
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:07

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Hey Vguy where’s our joke today? “Dear Mr Vguy, send us a joke Something to make us all happy You are the one who makes us all glad Tell a joke, play guitar, make it snappy”
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:11

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CSN & Woodstock was one of the answers tonight on Jepardy.Just sayin'... :o)
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:18

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All but the last CCR album have been remastered and re-released with bonus tracks: outtakes and live cuts. 'Grapevine' clocks in at 11:03 on 'Cosmo's Factory', and the entire album sans bonus tracks clocks in at 42:25. Since most albums were 18-22 mins. per side I don't think this is an edited version. Was it a live version you're speaking of?
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:29

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Bobt; sounds like another bueat to check out eh! CSNY; used do GDized versions of Wooden Ships and Almost cut my hair back in the day.... “Like looking in the mirror and seeing a po-leece car” But I’m gonna let my freak flag fly! Yeah baby! Sheeeee-itt! T-minus 28 hours and 45 minutes or so....?, (Hey, there rock stars!) Until shhhhoooowwww time! Can not wait to hear some live music, sweet, sweet, music Hope it doesn’t rain the whole weekend? Murphy’s law, dry as Haiti’s all dam summer, but this will be the weekend the Monsoons start. Oh well, that's why God created Gortex.... no such thing as bad weather, just bad gear eh! Edit; can’t believe no one commented on my 7/9/95 story. Not as good as the Dragon, or Historic 73 shows I know, but.......crickets!!! Tough Crowd! Need Vguy to warm the place up... Swear to The Gods, true story, I literally came feet away from smashing into Jerry at full tilt boogie, 6’2”, 200 hundred plus, you do the math.....
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:51

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Chronicle: 20 Greatest HitsThat was the cassette tape, I was guessing about the length of Grapevine since I had the cassette in the 80’s. I recently bought the vinyl and Grapevine is 3:52.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 19:53

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Not only GD's last performance at the Fillmore East but also the last performance of 'Alligator'.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 20:00

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Just tracked it down, Grapevine is the album version at 11:04. So, how about some live CCR official releases? I love the Fogerty part of 11-3-91 with GD as his backing band.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 20:21

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....when I noticed a small man shimmying down a rope along the outside prison wall. I thought to myself, "well, that's a little condescending."
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 20:56

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Niiiiiccce, thank you sir, I now can retire for the day satiated...
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Submitted by Thin on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 21:48

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... if they made DaP27 a show adjacent to one of the box set shows? Say, 5/25/74 Santa Barbara, which is a great show despite no Other One/Dark Star? Sneaky pranksters.... Rationale: Apart from making September a 73/74-fest, they might predict that it would create more demand for the 73/74 box, since they've already done the initial push and some may be on the fence. Folks might get DaP27 and decide to pull the trigger on 6 more just like it. Yes you could argue it would cannibalize sales, but again the initial sales rush is over and now it's a matter of converting those who decided to pass on it for now. That would be something. That really would be something. Or Gainesville...
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 21:25

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.... working on finding the groove. Trey looks like a ginger Joey Ramone. Seen it before, but a welcome sight. Been re-loving the recent JGB Hawaii release lately. And when I say lately, I mean now.
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Submitted by LedDed on Thu, 07/12/2018 - 23:08

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I know, isn't that just a bit too many toppings on the cake? That's howthey billed it. Friends were like, "is Dean going to play all Dead covers?" No. He didn't. Just drove home from there, hella fast with that remastered "Appetite" guiding my way. Living in a big city, well, semi-big (Denver), one knows how to get around. Cops have real crime to fight and they rarely give a shit about some white boy in a Hyundai with clear windows speeding five over and jamming the rock n' roll. The theater was just part of the local hype for the next two nights at Folsom Field. Last shows of the tour, folks. Dean Ween was uneven, but gave it the old college try as he does. We did a blaster for the road and high-tailed it out of there before the encore. We know folks there and got heavy pours and discounts all night. Buy $100 worth of booze, get charged $20, tip your bartender $80. Hey, I can play this game. I'm really looking forward to Friday and Saturday. The last shows of the tour in rock and roll, well, hard rock anyway, were always known for craziness and hi-jinks. We'll see what the geezers have up their sleeve. At least Sharon Osbourne isn't involved. Iron Maiden, anyone? God bless everyone. See you at Folsom! The weather shall be perfect.
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Submitted by jaydoublu on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 03:32

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Noticing that disc 4, has only 20 minutes of music listed. Wondering/hoping if/for a hidden track. I know they have placed a few hidden gems on previous releases. while not from the era , but area.Think its 6/12/80 with Scarlet>Fire from Portand would be nice. Mount St Helens erupts, or some Phil and Ned. seems like awhile from last DVD release.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 06:05

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“T-minus 12 hours and counting until liftoff” wooooooohoooo!!!We’ll be in the back, can’t miss us. WEEN “ my dinners on fire while she watches TV......”
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Submitted by shirdeep on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 06:07

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PHISH, WEDNESDAY 07/13/1994 BIG BIRCH CONCERT PAVILION Patterson, NY SET 1: Buried Alive > Poor Heart > Sample in a Jar, Foam, The Mango Song, Down with Disease > Fee[1] -> It's Ice > Fast Enough for You, I Didn't Know[2], Split Open and Melt SET 2: Possum, Cavern -> Wilson[3] -> Cavern > NICU -> Tweezer -> Julius -> Tweezer -> Big Black Furry Creature from Mars[4] -> Tweezer -> Mound > Slave to the Traffic Light > Suzy Greenberg ENCORE: My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise [1] Trey sang verses through megaphone. [2] Fish on trombone. [3] Played to the tune of Cavern. [4] Unfinished; Played bluegrass style to the tune of Scent of a Mule. Trey sang the verses of Fee through a megaphone. I Didn't Know featured Fish on trombone. Wilson was played to the tune of Cavern. Tweezer contained Woody Woodpecker theme, I Wish, and I Know a Little teases. BBFCFM was unfinished and played bluegrass style to the tune of Scent of a Mule. Trey teased Slave throughout Suzy Greenberg.
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 06:16

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There is a live CCR release, compiled from a European tour they did in 71. Its not titled 'Europe 71' but it should have been :) It has a nice jammy 13 min version of 'Keep on Chooglin'. I'm not sure what chooglin is exactly, but John Fogerty makes it sound like a lot of fun. Love CCR. Fogerty is one of the great rock n roll songwriters of all time.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 06:49

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....the new Cowboy Junkies record All That Reckoning dropped today. Just a friendly public service reminder. As you were.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 07:50

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Going with choice selections from DP 28 Feb '73. Great Cold Rain & Snow. Fantastic GSET, but the Louie Louie riff Phil plays before it starts drives me nuts every time. I always want them to play the whole song. Also has one of those slow slinky Loose Lucy's. And of course Dark Star. What's everyone else listening to? wissonomingdeadhead - I saw that you listed yes as your favorite studio album band. I'm a huge fan as well. I started buying those 5.1 surround sound Steve Wilson remasters, and they're fantastic. Tales From topographic oceans never sounded better than this. Of all their Studio records that one in its original pressing was always a little disappointing from a Sonic standpoint. It was as though I could never turn the treble up high enough to hear the drums well. Everything was just kind of muffled and muted or something. Not anymore! Did you also pick any of those up? Shirdeep - you seem to have a huge collection of old Grateful Dead pictures. Do you have any Keith pictures? Doing a Google search doesn't really get you too many of him.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 07:34

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Hey! Where the heck is DaL with his seaside chat?We are only 2 wks away from launch Rock on
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