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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • #641
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    '80's Dead
    I dig '80' Dead, it's just another chapter in the book. Things can change with age and still be good. For example, I find that the ageing of Jerry's voice makes some of the later era versions of Black Peter just that much more poignant, and some of the '80-'90's drums-space sequences were awesome vehicles for some improvisational jamming and wicked transitions from space into whatever came next. And yes, relatively speaking, the Dead were the best game in town in the '80's, a decade in which there seemed little to excite me musically. As far as the parking lot scene, I dug that too - who doesn't like a big, mellow, party before a show? There did seem to be a little more of a frenzy about the scene later, but I attribute that to the increasing difficulty in getting tickets due to the increase in demand, and perhaps a lack of discretion amongst some of the eager partier's in the parking lot. Really the only show that I left disappointed was a '94 show at the Meadowlands in NJ, that one I left bummed. On another note, deadnet can't seem to decide if I'm a robot or not - took me like 3 tries to get that captcha to work.
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    It's a matter of taste
    To me the Dead were all about the free form, experimental, jam music.At one time Garcia was the greatest improvisational guitarist. He just couldn't keep that up as the years went by and he got caught up in hard drugs, due to keeping the Dead going. Some people like the "songs". They are okay as filler to me, but it's his jams that I wanted to hear. Even the jams later on became kind of rote. I'm all into things like disk 2 of Dick's Pick's #8, to give you the best example. That is the greatest Dead ever, and they never lived up to that again. As I've said before, I wished they had quit after 1977 and Jerry could do solo stuff and maybe lived longer. He died trying to keep the Dead machine alive because he was employing too many friends and didn't want to quit on them. Anyway, I'll stop. To each their own.
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    First of all, I completely respect your opinion. At the shows, I also listened intently to all the players, how they interacted, and especially Jerry's solo's and his singing. I surrounded myself on the floor with 20 friends who were all silently listening and enjoying song after song. The band continually changed, adding new songs, changing older ones, reworking their sound, and the 80's versions of the band were different than the 70's and 60's, and clearly not your cup of tea. I respect that. Perhaps they were still musically interesting to the careful listener, like myself, even in the 80's and 90's. I appreciated all the versions, and listened to each one.
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    Mediocre in the '80's, yes
    A rare person will agree with me, so let's just say to each their own."bopping, dancing, swirling"...so what? It's easy to dance to any music with a beat. I listen INTENTLY to every note of the music - Jerry's guitar and how the band interacts musically. Not just the "funnestness" of it! LOL! Is that a word? Compared to their earlier music, they were truly mediocre in the later years. I compare them to their own best music, not to what else is out there at the time. It would not be hard to beat what was happening musically in those later years, but they could not compare to what they themselves did earlier. And by the way, MTV destroyed music. When they came onto to scene, music became showmanship and true music was lost. "I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's" Yeah, he was dead.
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    Mediocre???
    I saw the dead regularly in the 70's 80's and 90's right to the end in '95, and they were rarely mediocre. I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's. But musically show after show, run after run, they were guaranteed to be the funnest, best shows in town, over and over again. All those shows I attended people everywhere around me were bopping, dancing, swirling around if there was room. Clearly people enjoying the music. They grew and grew in popularity due to their allowing tape recording of their shows, massive tape trading, and a reputation for great shows. Then along came MTV's "Day of the Dead", and "In The Dark" with their radio hit "Touch of Grey", and that bumped their attendance up a lot. Some would say too much, as they began losing some of their coolest venues. That is the true downside of their growing popularity, the parking lot scene got way out of hand, and even when the show was happening inside, there was a huge group of folks outside who just came for the parking lot party. Mediocre? Hardly.
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    MDJim is right
    compared to any other live shows in the 80s there were few bands worth seeing more than once a tour as most popular bands played the same exact show every night for the whole tour. now most of the SBD recordings of that time are flawed and because of the nature of the mix the flaws become accentuated, but a good AUD allows you to hear what the people in the concert heard and it is not as bad as the SBD tapes make it seem.
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    Almost through...and a funny story
    I'm almost through the first complete chronological listen. I'm up to the massive Seattle 74 Playin', scheduled for tonight's listen. Wonderful sound overall. On first listen the 73 Vancouver has a better mix than the other two 73's. The 74's sound better than the 73's. I chalk that up to their perfecting the Wall configuration(s) in 73. True also the first sets have many repeated songs, but they are played so well! Every show has really strong jazzy jams that were the hallmark of 73-74. Most of the shows have a strong Bobby presence, which I really love. I love to hear the awesome wierd imaginative chords he plays. However, I'm listening to Seattle 74, and he seems lost in the mix, kinda there, but not prominent. Funny thing happened on the way home with my box. My box was delivered to work. I was on the train coming home with the box on my lap, and a guy sitting across from me was eyeing the box and said: "Pardon me, is that a box of smoked salmon?"
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    You are probably right about most of your post.But one issue I'll never change my opinion about: the Dead were mediocre in the '80's and into the '90's (a great show was rare) and that is when their popularity soared.
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    Re: MORE popular as their music became worse
    Not so sure about that.. I saw a ton of live music during this period.. not just the GD. Seeing a better live act in the 80's than the boys was an elusive task, comparatively they still delivered night after night. If I accept the premise that they had declined (I'd prefer to sidestep that controversy altogether).. Bands that performed better in this era were few and far between. Might I say.. they were still kick ass and if care and attention went into recording shows, I bet opinions would shift too. Their numbers grew gradually, over the years. The term 'on the bus' is exactly correct.. As for the parking lot/zoo scene, I think that's a separate issue than the music.. but I still believe the whole scene was 90%+ about the music. I wouldn't bang on fourwinds for what is clearly word choice and semantics. I think there's a quote from Jerry in Long Strange Trip where he admits he used to sabotage their success. I see this issue as one where there is truth on both sides and reality meets somewhere in the middle. Jerry was a serious musician, Mountain Girl is quick to point out how much he practices and what a professional musician he was, especially in the early years.. up very early every day practicing scales and working out problems. Anyway.. If I had the crystal ball of truth, I bet you two aren't as far apart as it appears and from afar, you both have points..
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    Dude, you misunderstood Jerry
    He was a VERY serious musician and the quality of his music mattered a GREAT DEAL to him.He was super bummed when they played bad. Maybe your attitude explains something I never totally understood: why the Dead became MORE popular as their music became worse and worse. The masses don't have the ear to hear what's good or bad. They just liked the "scene" and the music was unimportant.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 22:28

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....then again. I'm not one to judge. You want jams? I'll show you jams. Pick a Cumberland. Any Cumberland. It will make you wish you earned five dollars a day. If not? Move away. A Row Jimmy outro works too. Jams for everyone?!
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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 22:36

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Getting old. Move on to something more interesting.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 07/13/2018 - 23:16

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She's Your Baby...:o)
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 00:12

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Thanks Vguy!What can I say?...I'm a Weener. Ha! I saw the first comment on youtube…"Ya WEEN some,ya lose some...it's all the same to me..." :o) Deaner & his band played here 2 or 3 nights ago. Didn't go see 'em. Don't know why. Heard they did a killer Stella Blue. Got word tonight that Deaners bass player is filling in with JRAD tonight at Grand Targhee. Whoops...
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Submitted by black throated… on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 02:03

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Roses Are Free
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 04:36

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6/22 I feel this would make a delightful choice for 27. I'm still sticking with 12/1/79 though. HAPPY SATUR-DAY PLAY DEAD
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Submitted by Hippychic on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 06:06

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Mr. Straw, I was just going with the flow, because Vguy said he just got wood at the suggestion of this great show from 12/30/69. Some people might say your intolerance of a woman saying the exact same comment from a woman, but not a man is sexist. Lucky for you politics bore me and I don't hold a grudge :) And also a half dozen people PM'd me to say your basically a cranky old man and that I should just ignore it. I don't know about the old man part, but you sure are a cranky one:) Make you a deal. I'm just going to be me, and you can ignore it. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming!! KeithFan I visited that very show on archive.org, but unfortunately it doesn't sound so good. Is there a good copy floating about?
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 06:21

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your presence is welcome, Hippychic, creamed peach and all. 12/30/69 apparently is Viagra for the ears. If you have a peak experience lasting more than four hours...rejoice!
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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 06:34

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I have openly admiited many times to being a curmudgeon. Thank you for you and your friends for agreeing. Just not sure why six people would feel compelled to PM as such. Boredom I suppose. For what it is worth, I posted the current photo for your benefit. Enjoy. Agreed. Politics and religion have no place on this site. Your innuendos were quite funny the first few times. They just grow tiresome. There are better websites for that, I am sure.
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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 07:23

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That is a killer set list, and I like the bonus track filler too. If they had good tapes of that. Woohoo, honestly that would be a hugely popular Dave's Pick. Also not tired of your speaking mannerisms Hippychic, you're welcome here. This place features locker room talk all the time, and really, I laughed my ass off about that comment the day when that dude said oragel, and you said what you said. I chortled. Keep being you. Hell, it ain't like you even post here that much.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 07:28

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Did somebody say Cumberland Blues? Must have been VGuy.. First.. wishing a glorious Saturday to you all. It's sunny and hot here in the mid-Atlantic hill country, water sports are in the agenda. I received my Anthem of the Sun 50th yesterday. If you are still waiting.. I think you will be impressed with the 3-D, trippy take on the original multi-headed Buddha. It's way cool. I won't get a chance to check out the 67 show just yet, but it's on the agenda. Happy day.. if for no other reason than I just got a new, very special CD. Second.. I somehow lost a device recently.. which is a shame because it was a 160G iPod classic and they don't make em anymore. So I grabbed one of my newer devices and it magically landed on 3/28/73 Springfield, so I am starting my day on a sunny, hot bike ride.. all geared up and getting to roll it with Cumberland>Here Comes Sunshine. A glorious start to what promises to be a glorious day. As to diatribe from yesterday, it was Friday the 13th.. let's just chalk it up as a little harmless leftover from a play of unlucky numbers. Have a good one all.. Anthem of the Sun, still my favorite GD album.. in the words of Robert Hunter, "What a daring record"
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 07:56

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I'm hearing a lot of his stuff for the first time the past few days. Low, Lodger, the man who sold the world (album), Diamond Dogs (album) always liked Bowie, but limited myself to Ziggy Stardust, Scary Monsters, and Heroes, plus a lot of the singles from over the years (Fame...an old auditory friend). will be hearing AOTS re-issue today. :))) Happy Saturday, everyone.
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Submitted by Mr_Heartbreak on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 07:58

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My guess is that it will be 3/22/73.I know, I know, too close to the box set dates, right? But remember, 11/6/77 was released not all that long after the Cornell box. The 3/22/73 show: 1) Generates more potential interest in the Pacific NW box. 2) Has Sugaree in the second song slot. 3) Took place in Utica, NY, where there was a "recent alien sighting" (Google Utica aliens). 4) Is a Betty Board. Also, there hasn't been a '73 Dave's Pick since Vol. 21 from 4/2/73. Might seem recent to some, but that was a year and a half ago. Dave likes this era. It's a good possibility. We'll all know on Monday...
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Submitted by black throated… on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 08:29

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I was just in Berlin and made it a point to seek out Hansa Studios where Bowie recorded Heroes and Low. Also found his apartment where he wrote these two as well as Lodger. I love Heroes. It’s a great song. Overall, not my favorite period of his, but seeing how I was in Berlin it was a must do. Pretty much all of his early stuff is great. Must have for all rock ‘n’ rollers. Obviously I’m a bit biased. My avatar probably gives that away. “We could be heroes, if just for one day. “
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Don't I wish..."Bolo24" got IT! Alligator Alley Gym University Of Florida Gainesville, FL, USA Set 1: Alabama Getaway Promised Land Candyman New Minglewood Blues Row Jimmy Mama Tried Mexicali Blues Althea Lost Sailor> Saint Of Circumstance Don't Ease Me In Set 2: Shakedown Street> Franklin's Tower> Estimated Prophet> He's Gone> Truckin'> Drums> The Other One> Stella Blue Good Lovin' Encore: Casey Jones Edits from reviews of this show: I was living in St.Augustine, FL, at the time & had heard that The Boys were coming to Gainesville, a mere hour+ ride from the First City. So, like the other guy said, I ran - I didn't walk - to the nearest ticket vendor! It was a great show. I was familiar w/ many of the songs in the Dead's playlist by the fall of 1980. I had become familiar w/ the band around the time of Blues For Allah and Terrapin Station and, after the release of Shakedown Street, the band was summarily thrust into the national spotlight w/ the major smashing success of the title track. They wouldn't see that kind of radio play again until the release of the After Dark album when the believably-unpopular tune, Touch of Grey, thrust our Bay Area Boys into the international limelight once again! Anyway, I've become VERY familiar w/ the set list since this `80 show and had taken in numerous shows by the time August of 1995 rolled around. I've also watched other incarnations like The Other Ones, Phil & Friends & now The Dead w/ great delight & renewed enthusiasm. It's does the heart good to see the music surviving so long after it first commenced in 1965. I guess, truly, The Music Never Stopped, eh?! Anyway, this UF show is a great settie: there are definitely better, there are also certainly worse. But, it will always be a special settie to me `cause it was the night I popped my Grateful Dead cherry, so to speak! Well, as Pierre Robert from 93.3FM/WMMR in Philly was always fond of saying ... "may God Bless the Grateful Dead." Oh, and ... GO `GATORS!!! -------- Yeah, the second set has some good stuff... but I wouldn't say it was mind-blowing. For example, the transition from Shakedown to Franklin's was sloppy. -Anonymous ---- Went to this show as a freshman at UF. Remember being in an nice altered state waiting to get inside and a bus full of Hare Krishna unloaded in front and they started their own jam session. I had never seem Krishna before and just watching them jam was a fun diversion. Anyone else remember that? The place only held about 10k and the bleachers were shanking. "Double shot of whiskey and those Gainesville girls start looking good" ---- Thanks, "Dr. G" for the heads-up on this one!
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Submitted by tncorey on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 09:36

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stoltzfus - That cracked me up! On a side note, I have been in a laid back Dead mood as of late....something from 1976 would be welcome. Plus, admittedly, I don't have a lot from '76. Or Gainesville.
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PHISH, SUNDAY 07/14/1991 TOWNSHEND FAMILY PARK Townshend, VT SET 1: Reba, Llama, The Squirming Coil > Golgi Apparatus, Guelah Papyrus, My Sweet One, Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Sloth, I Didn't Know[1] > Possum[2] SET 2: Suzy Greenberg[3], Caravan[3] > Divided Sky[3], Gumbo[3] > Dinner and a Movie[3] > Bouncing Around the Room, Split Open and Melt[3], Magilla[3] > Cavern[3] > Run Like an Antelope[3] SET 3: AC/DC Bag[3] > The Landlady[3], Esther > Chalk Dust Torture, Bathtub Gin[3], Mike's Song[3] > I Am Hydrogen[3] > Weekapaug Groove[3], Hold Your Head Up[3] > Touch Me[4], Harry Hood ENCORE: Contact[3] > Big Black Furry Creature from Mars[3] [1] Fish on trombone. [2] Charlie Chan and Oom Pa Pa signals. [3] Giant Country Horns. [4] Giant Country Horns and Fish on trombone. This show featured The Giant Country Horns for all of the second set except for Bouncing, all of the third set except for Esther, Chalk Dust, and Hood, and for the encore. The show began with a humorous announcement from Trey that he felt “overdressed” during National Nudist Week. My Sweet One included a tease of the Bonanza theme and Magilla included a Flintstones theme tease. I Didn't Know, in which Fish was introduced as "Hank," and Touch Me featured Fish on trombone. Possum included Charlie Chan and Oom Pa Pa signals as well as a Dave’s Energy Guide tease, while Weekapaug included more DEG teases. Trey introduced the Giant Country Horns at the end of Antelope and during BBFCFM. There was a long wait during HYHU for Fish, who was apparently in the bathroom. Hood included full-band Jeopardy! theme teases. This show ran much longer than scheduled (at one point, when Trey noted that they should wind up the show, a fan urged the band to “fuck the clock”), prompting Trey to beg the crowd to leave in a timely and orderly fashion after the encore.
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Submitted by fluffua 01 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:17

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That's a great set List.Been Watching all week. Boy did things go bonkers. I must say can't believe the amount of Phish shows that have showed up lately. I like it and as a fan of both bands(Phish brought me to The Dead and I haven't looked back.) The argument about bands best of types is awesome. I like the Beatles answer on studio but because I'm a lot younger with a love of all music I say studio albums of Nine Inch Nails is up there too. Trent was a 1 man band for a lot of years only using other people on the road. I forgot the other 2 parts but I remember some of the answers and it's good conversations. DA27 IMHO will come from 69-74. It just feels right.Good thing is I don't care what show it will be. There's beauty in all eras and I'm glad I can own it. Vguy: What's Green and smells like pig? Kermit's finger. Keep the jokes coming buddy It's been a crazy week but some great stories. Thanks to everybody be well Dave
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:24

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I really must make a shirt with that on it. about 10 people on the planet will "get it", but it is a grand cosmic joke for us that do.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:30

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my first show with them was here in Seattle at a place called the Backstage in Ballard (a neighborhood). sometime in 1991. they were cool enough, but I thought the trampolines were kind of lame. I also saw a show there with Ray Manzarek/Michael McClure/Allen Ginsberg some time later. It eventually got converted into a health club. whee.
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Submitted by stonerbud2 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:41

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I was into them in high school..now I can only listen to their instrumentals, lyrics drive me nuts like many jam bands.. give me Hunter words anytime. Not to mention many of their fans are so fucking annoying.. as are many Dead fans I realize but something about Phish. As for Dave's Picks, I am hoping the announcement will be 2/26/77
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Submitted by stonerbud2 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:41

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I was into them in high school..now I can only listen to their instrumentals, lyrics drive me nuts like many jam bands.. give me Hunter words anytime. Not to mention many of their fans are so fucking annoying.. as are many Dead fans I realize but something about Phish. As for Dave's Picks, I am hoping the announcement will be 2/26/77
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:45

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That was a good once Stoltzie. Made me laugh like this one always gets me. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc Hippychic, I have a copy, but it really doesn't sound that good. There are channel dropouts galore, and even when that's not happening, it sounds like there's a lot of flutter and wow, and just generally bad fidelity. If you still want it PM me. Jimbo enjoy Dave's Picks 16 on your ride, I really love that Cumberland Blues a lot. The audio dropout during Jerry's solo hurts me deeply, but it picks up about halfway through, so it's not a total loss. I was listening to the Dark Star, Eyes of the World, Playing in the Band the other night, and that really is an awesome disc 3. I don't know about you guys but there are a few songs that fit perfectly with a nice sunny day while driving: Sugar Magnolia, Bird Song, and of course Here Comes Sunshine. Oh, and the Jam from Ladies & Gentlemen - best Jam ever?
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 10:52

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....I was talking about a snake I found in my backyard this morning. I don't like snakes.
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Submitted by fluffua 01 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 11:00

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1. I agree It's really surprising of recent Live Content on Phish. Since the Steamer there hasn't been this much posting on them. It doesn't bother me but it is strange.2. My first show was Burgesstowm, PA 2003. I was evolving in my music tastes and bringing in music I knew I'd like. from the advice from someone it lead to my purchasing of So Many Roads at my local Circuit City for roughly 58$. I was blown away. I missed a lot of stuff(Really want a F69 box.) and Started my journey when I received the Steamer. I became a collector after I put those shows in Jewel cases. I'm pretty much straight edge but these's releases along with the Dave's series is a drug. I purchase random shows from Phish but I purchase every Box and subscribe every year for Dave's. It's a crazy debate
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Submitted by fluffua 01 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 11:17

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Why am I not welcome? Was it my joke? I'm sorry. Not my intention.What did Spock find in the toilet? Captain's Log. Be Well Vguy
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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 11:18

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To me the albums he made from Space Oddity to Alladin Sane are incredible. David Bowie and the Spiders were the second concert I went to (the first was T.Rex) as fresh faced 15 year old in 1972. As such it had an enormous impact on me. I went off his albums after 1973, although the Berlin trio brought me back again-especially Low and Heroes. After that-apart from the single Ashes to Ashes, me and David Bowie parted company for good. But those studio albums between 1969 and 1973-they still sound great to me and I still play each of them at least once every year. The two box sets chronicling these albums are worth getting-although there is a lot of duplication in the one featuring the Berlin albums. Two versions of Lodger and Stages are not needed. One thing that hasn't lasted so well with me are his live albums. I have got most of them from the 1970s-but not one of them, in my opinion , can hold a candle to the studio albums from the same period. He was great to SEE live-but the albums don't work so well. An example of the difference between a live concert, and a live recording.
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Submitted by fluffua 01 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 11:24

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After I finally listened to Black Star I went back and I agree. Those shows must have been awesome.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 11:24

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....that statement was directed to the snake I found in backyard. My sense of humor is an aquired taste, I guess.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 12:28

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Love the Ziggy Stardust DVD and Santa Monica 10-20-72 CD.As usual, I prefer live over studio. Need more old live stuff.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 13:27

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the giant country horns era. some couldn't hang but it was briefly and not permanent. one show got picked for official release.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 13:28

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I always make it sound like it's a chore to go out and get the groceries. Are you sure you don't mind? No I don't mind you stay home enjoy yourself... And I crank the ever-loving s*** out of the car radio and put on something like this kick ass bonus disc from road trips 2011, specifically the China cats sunrider, which is now Dark Star. Add another couple songs to the sunny day drive list. Really are there any bad ones. Probably not. Last year. The August Dave's Picks 23 was not announced until the 24th of July. Still have at least a week.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 14:33

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....is apparently a comic book fan. Tired of all the superhero movies being pumped out the last decade or so? I'm not. I'm also not tired of grilled shrimp. Don't be bashful with the garlic.Charlie3 with the edgy joke. I chuckled....I also chuckled a lot reading Barlow's book. Down to the last fifty pages. King and HST await in the shadows. I can't read fast enough!
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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 14:52

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Maybe I've just played them too much. Another good one is the double Bowie at The Beeb, which covers really early songs, from 1967, up to 1972. It seems apparent to me also, listening now, that Bowie and The Spiders didn't play together for very long-or very often. Some of the meat and potatoes rock bands of the era, who had been around a bit longer-like Mott The Hoople-sound more powerful to me than The Spiders. One of the best Bowie live albums is from 1976-on the Station to Station tour. That's the opposite to his early 70s stuff to me-the live album works better than the studio Station. Seriously funky.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 15:19

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The neighbor of the beast.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 15:53

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I don't watch comic book movies anymore. I find them to be very abysmal experiences
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 16:32

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they change origins, they completely change the race of a character(to get a certain demographic), id rather just read em than watch em. I eventually got tired of Spider-Man the animated series towards the end cuz of that thing completely changing major story lines.
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