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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • marye
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    Tim and others with disc issues
    if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.
  • TimP
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    I too have had 2 issues with…

    I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

    Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

    BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

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    The Pacific Northwest ’73-’74 big box

    My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

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    MARYE - defective discs

    Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

    I appreciate the speedy response and help.

    Time to rock out !!!

    Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

  • MDJim
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    I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

    Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

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    I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

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    I think Reijo has a point.

    Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

    Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

    Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

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    hate to complain but...

    They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

  • Drifter's Escape
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    Mix issues

    I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
    My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
    Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

    What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

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    Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

    Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

    Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

    Again, I could be missing something..

    One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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THANK YOU DMCVT and HENDRIXFREAK for letting us look over your shoulders on Watkins Glen's 45th anniversary. I've got your sagas duly saved, but you'll probably need to repost once again for the 50th. I did locate H-freak's photo of the stage and dmcvt's link to Gouldon's pics is priceless. Hendrixfreak you've got to be one of the far-est out 15 year olds ever – my year-15 in sleepy Arkansas ('68) was rockin', but no way as amped up, electric and happ'nin'. Thanks again for the peek y'all. Onward.
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I recall someone gave me file conversion info to get that posted here and I've located the two digitized pics, but "file conversion," meh, no time or patience for that. As for being a wild 15, I can honestly say I've spent the last 45 years recovering... Thanks for reading, folks. Of course there was more. A big ABB set, then the thunderstorms and The Band. After that, we were done. As we straggled out in the direction of ... somewhere ... we could hear Jer and the assembled doing a jam and ... we no longer cared. Crispy fried kids and we slept in a field and hitchhiked back home on the 29th. One day of rest, then we were off to Roosevelt Stadium for a two-nighter with The Band and the GD. Good gawd!
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Great job of facilitating a 'time trip' back so we could vicariously experience those 'mescaline moments' and aural adventures. Much appreciated. "Teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."
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Hendrixfreak, maybe someone who knows the drill could PM me an email address so I can send the image to them and they can then post it here.
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Thanks DMCVT and Hendrixfreak for the great Saturday morning coffee reads. I had to check out that ending jam in He's Gone and I can see why you would remember it. Can't say I would; two weeks is my limit these daysI'll take a another review of Rosie Stadium trek in a few days if ur up for it Drp out
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Great account of Watkins Glen-thanks for posting. It gave a real sense of what it must have been like to see The Dead at that time. We must be about the same age-I saw my first gigs in 1972 when I was 15-T.Rex followed by David Bowie. A very different culture - nothing remotely happened to me in the way it happened to you! I don't think I would have survived, if it had.
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Thanks man. Good read!
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....I doubt it will be Watkins Glen quality, but I will try. Live music is my pulse. My wife is going too. That's big news in my little circle.
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I was eleven in '73 and at sleepaway camp in the Catskills. I knew of the Dead through the bootleg tapes (TDK SA-90) our counselors played nonstop. Those two classic B&W posters of the band in front of Mickeys barn and the one of Garcia in his skeleton jacket was in almost every bunk. It provided the roots to an education, adventure, life philosophy that continues today. I recall hearing the words "Watkins Glen" so often that summer from the counselors that went to the show and knew something great had gone down and lived on those stories all summer. Hendrixfreak & DMCVT's posts bring me right back to those amazing days. The photos are excellent, from the dedhed fashions to the flip top beers, the cars, the lack of merchandise.... I loved looking at every detail in the photos, makes the listening experience even greater. Now 56 sitting in my dedhed themed cabana on the Jersey shore, Im grateful for your posts as all my listening today will consist of only those three bands.
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Hendrixfreak,Thank you very much for your great stories of RFK & Watkins Glen! You're not going to win the Pulitzer Prize for Literature for them, perhaps only just the "Golden Bong Prize" from High Times. A+ My 1st rock concert and 1st GD show was 6/10/73, I was a sweet 16 going on 17. I don't remember too much other than it was very hot and humid. We were in the lowest part of the stands and and looking right we could see the stage. Looking directly straight we saw the soundboard/PA and lighting control "island." Just smoking some grass was involved in that event. We were unable to go to Watkins Glen later that July. Again, I deeply appreciate your stories of RFK & Watkins Glen.
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And... now... for something... completely different: If you like a high energy, well played later 80's show that was broadcast on the FM way back, here's March 31st, 1987 Grateful Dead at The Spectrum in Philadelphia Pa., on the area's leading rock broadcaster at the time, WMMR, 93.3 FM, here is a recording of that broadcast: https://archive.org/details/gd1987-03-31.fm.braverman.7357.shnf/gd87-03… In my opinion, it would be a good addition to the current Dave's Picks Series
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Unfortunately I could not attend the Glen since I was at MSG in NYC to see Led Zeppelin that night! This was the 2nd night of a 3 night run that was filmed and became the movie The Song Remains The Same. This was the famous n8ght that the hotel safe was burglarized and the band "claimed" to have lost $150K. (In today's dollars that is more like one million). Mystery still surrounds that whole thing. Never trust Peter Grant! His only allegiance was to LZ. All week leading up to the show we were worried about rumors that LZ was going to blow off the Garden and go to the Glen. Thank goodness that did not happen! LZ was loud and phenomenal. I will never forget Page prancing around the stage in his black outfit with the embroidered dragons and such. Plus, we had just seen the ABB at the Garden on the Sat. night before the Glen! Talk about a wealth of musical riches. I had seen my first Dead show in Buffalo, 4 months earlier. 3/31 to be exact. A show that is sandwiched nicely between DaP16, 3/28 in Springfield, and DaP21, 4/2 Boston Garden. (I just finished up listening DaP16 and am now listening to DaP21) I am always hoping for its release but I doubt that will come to pass. I finished up the first disc of DaP27 and it cranks. Jerry is getting it done there for sure! Rock on
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Lyrics By: Robert Hunter Music By: Keith Godchaux Well hop in the hack, turn on the key Pop in the clutch let the wheel roll free Not a cloud in the sky, such a sunny day Push in the button let the top ten play Come on honey, let me sing 'em away Come on honey, let me sing 'em away Oh, honey, let me sing your blues away. Give me a little of that old time love 'Cause I ain't never had near enough Honey, walk that walk With style and grace This ain't no knock-down, drag-out race. It doesn't matter much, pick any gear Grind you a pound and drop the rear Baby, baby, what can I say I'm here to drive those blues away. I sent a letter to a man I know Said one for the money and two for the show I wait all summer for his reply Said three to get ready and four to fly. Only two things in this world I love That's rock and roll and my turtle dove. When I was a young man, I needed good luck But I'm a little bit older now and I know my stuff. Come on honey let me sing 'em away Come on honey let me sing 'em away Oh honey let me sing your blues away
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Funny, I still remember key details like the pink shirt with white polka dots I wore at the show. The afternoon ABB show was killer. Then the afternoon thunderstorm that drenched everyone while The Band played, stopped and finished their set with the lights on. Our idyllic little encampment from the Friday night soundcheck was a sordid pit of mud and abandoned blankets. A day and a half of boogeying on our feet, tripping massively, awash in loud rock 'n roll... Is it any wonder that I was done with festivals for the rest of my life? Even Englishtown's 100,000 was a bit too much at the time. Still, great show! There is no question that the event and other GD shows that summer and fall altered my trajectory. I began backpacking solo in the Adirondacks in NY state (black bear country), did the Green Mtns in Vermont, White Mtns in New Hampshire (almost killed in bad weather on Mt. Washington, where little crosses on the mountain say, "Joe Blow last seen near this area"; not "Joe Blow died here," but "last seen near this area" and the date would be years earlier, so obviously no one was waiting for Joe to show back up again). Then the big trip, thumbing from East Coast to West Coast and back in '74, turning 17 on the road -- of course, I thought I was a big boy by then. My poor folks, no cell phones and I was gone for months. Missed the GD that summer and ended up in San Franciso, walking past the Mars Hotel (LP had been out in July/Aug) trying to sell a cheap watch for food (succeeded). Heard about the October shows, but had nothing, no money, no friends in the area, nothing to do but hitch home and ... go to freakin' high school(!). That didn't go well. I got stories. And now, about to turn 61, and still doing the solo backcountry for the past 32 years in the high desert of NW Colo / NE Utah. Pretty alienated at times from ordinary life but still catching shows -- last night at Red Rocks: Tedeschi-Trucks band (back tonight, yea!). And the boomers remain my medicine a handful of times per year. Keeps me on track and has for 46 years. Puts me closer to rock and sky, though I've lowered the dose as I aged. Just don't require as much to get the inner synch going with the universe. Cheers! Maybe tonight Susan will sing Sugaree.............
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"Psychedelics are to Psychiatry what the microscope is to biology and the telescope to astronomy." ~Stanislav Grov Love the stories and ethos, HF. "God Bless the Freaks!"
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That’s worth missing the Glen
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Some pretty good deals on Dead related products from Warner Market on Amazon. -Dave's 14, 20, 24, 25, 26 -Hampton Warlocks Box -30 Trips Box
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loved those Watkins Glen stories Hendrixfreak and dmcvt. Man it's great to know that others really lived the life I dreamed about! I was such a lightweight at shows. Well, hell, I always had driving duty and my friends were always just casual Dead fans. I never really freaked freely at shows but I'm sure glad that so many others did!
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Hats off to those who kept it mellow so that they could drive their friends home.
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Yet it's kinda freaky when you know the driver is tripping as hard as you are and you're riding shotgun as the "navigator"... Summer of '76, after a couple GD shows at the Capitol Theater in lovely Passaic, NJ, me and two couples drove north to attend a fiddlers' convention in New Hampshire. As we approached a major highway choice -- north as planned, or east to Cape Cod -- I extolled the virtues of Woods Hole on Buzzards Bay. I had hitchhiked there repeatedly in 1973-74 when I was 15-16 instead of going to school and we hung there with a buddy who'd left home early. We met Smitty, a retired sea captain who taught me to roll joints with one hand and gave us warm beer and ouzo to drink and we sang him songs. Anyway, I'm talking about the good times in Woods Hole and the driver, my friend Mark, deftly swings the wheel and we're heading to Woods Hole instead of a fiddlers' convention. On July 4, we take the ferry (and car) to Martha's Vineyard and drop acid on our way to Gay Head, which is a bluff where a zillion colors of clay run down to the sea in a kaleidoscope. We spend time mind-melding with seagulls, then drive in search of food. Good thing it was all under 30 mph but jeez, we were hallucinating pretty strongly still and though we managed without freaking, that required significant effort. Mark and I talked about what we were seeing, how we were doing, as a mutual support act. As we returned to Woods Hole that night the fireworks of the Bicentennial were firing. And we were going to be OK. Yes, I have endless stories involving dubious behavior. And, yes, I'll stop now. Oh, but the reason for the post: I have nearly ZERO memories of July 30 and Aug 1 with the GD and The Band at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City other than one night I think it rained and both shows and bands played great shows. Love to hear either GD or both sometime, if they were to get the full Norman on a vault tape. I've heard tinny "soundboards" and won't go there again. Same with the Glen tapes. No doubt the first stimuli in -- Watkins Glen -- received full memory curation. But after two days of tripping and some hard traveling and insufficient rest, whatever the hell we did two days later is lost to the sands of time.
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First, thanks so much guys, you ahhh, “more experienced” folks (hey, don’t wanna piss off the PC police), telling your tales is personally, one of my favorite things here..And though I can’t complain, did pretty well for my time and place, can’t imagine seeing them back then. Like I think Bolo said first show was 11/10/73. Can you imagine being a kid, hanging in probably a half full winterland, perhaps a little of Bears finest.....awesome. Thanks to all that share the road tales, no matter what era. Speaking of memories or lack there of, it’s funny how shows from way back I can remeber some things pretty well, but like I don’t remeber much of the 8 shows we did in spring 87, and perhaps even less from spring 86, except a few biggies like the Box o Rain etc...
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I finally got around to reading his story: WG summer jam (long!) [July 27, 2018 4:40pm]YET AGAIN! WOW! Thank you very much! It was like being there, almost. He's not going to win the Pulitzer Prize for Literature for this, but perhaps the "Golden Bong Award" from High Times Magazine. One idea that is in my mind now is this complete event of "Summer Jam '73" - the 7/27 soundcheck & the scheduled event on 7/28 will be documented in an official release with fully restored audio of all 3 bands. I'm not too sure if The Band recorded their soundcheck and 7/28 show, I have yet to have heard/read an official confirmation, either yes or no. I think it would be a good idea.
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Driving on acid always ruins it for me. I can't not drive well, can't not bring myself to get my shit immediately together and pilot the car safely and well according to the rules of the road. And, after safely arriving at the destination, I can never, ever get the peak back. It's just gone, lost. A product I guess of me "sobering up" enough to drive. Once, a cop pulled me and my 17 year-old girlfriend over (don't scream gross, I was younger then) outside the Dairy Queen adjacent to our local park. I was blasted on Gooney Bird blotter. I kept it together and bullshitted this guy telling him everything he needed to hear. Hey, I used The Force. Is that so wrong? But I never got back up there again. Mildly buzzed and a little fuzzed out the rest of the night. Hate, hate driving on acid, it kills the buzz. I suppose that's the built in "don't kill other people" autopilot. cheers...
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Sorry to read that driving on acid killed the buzz. Looking on the bright side, at least you didn't kill anybody. You'd have had no end of hassle if you'd done that.
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Anybody have a vinyl rip of the Cold Rain & Snow?
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FYI, the Band did release an album called Live at Watkins Glen. It’s definitely worth checking out.I believe the ABB released part of their set on something also?
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The album only contains two songs from that concert by The Band. Garth Hudson's "Too Wet To Work", and "Jam". The rest of the songs by The Band are just studio recordings with crowd noise overdubbed.
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According to Wikipedia you are correct, thanks for the heads up....I’ve had that album since it came out and didn’t know. BASTARDTOS!
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I didn't know this CD was released until about a year or so after it's release. The review that I read was rather scathing and didn't give it too much merit - I think the reviewer didn't like the idea of studio tracks overdubbed with audience sounds, which in my opinion doesn't really work at all - too f***. (A certain politician uses that not obscene word way too often.) I don't think the reviewer liked "Too Wet To Work" either. I passed on that CD and it quickly went out of print. Some years ago, I looked it up on ebay, and the only copy that was up for bid was way too expensive to begin with. I don't think the seller had any bidders on the item at the time I saw it. As for the idea of a box set of this whole event, I pretty much think that if the legal hurdles and are met, music publishing legal hurdles are met, and the technical challenges are met and all pass, this box could become a reality. But I see it as an end-of-the-line "money grab" for the parties involved. As I said earlier, that the Dead's 7/28 show falls a little flat, unlike the soundcheck event the night before. Still, I'd love to see it be released soon.
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I finally got a copy of DaP 11 and my 1972 Bird Song collection is complete. The song sounds much more refined in 1972 to me. Its probably my favorite Jam song, or Here Comes Sunshine. Or possibly the 73/74 China Riders. My question to the group is: are any of these a LOT better than the rest? Because I can't tell them apart. They all seem to kick the same amount of butt. Are there any stand out moments in any of these in particular? If I've learned one thing about the Grateful Dead it is that it can take dozens of listens to capture everything there is to hear in a song. And then you can put it on in the car and hear something completely new. I do love the part where they all stop playing and Kreutzmann does either a long fill or a short drum solo (I'm not sure which).
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Perhaps significant hurdles, and your not the only one I’ve heard say the 28th is not top shelf—(“where mamma hides the cookies”, that’s hockey talk for Vguy)—and some could argue “hey, why not use a release for “X” which is better etc, which is certainly logical. But if all the variables you mention could line up, that could be one hell of a box (perhaps even some video? would think a show of this historical magnitude would have, not full shows, but something??)
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....I have a hate/love relationship with that week. Mostly love, but I do get a little melancholy. I'm only human. And I miss them. Even the Boise '83 version. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Sorry
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I posted a few weeks back an interview with Kirk West (can't find it now) about a plan, shelved at the time, to release a four-disc set of GD/ABB selections from the RFK Stadium and Watkins Glen shows. Obviously the two discs of GD could not hold the 10 June RFK show itself, let alone the best from the Glen. And the ABB played killer shows at both events. Yes, the GD were less than stellar on 28 July because they came on stage just after noon. And, um, might not have gotten the best night's sleep after their great soundcheck the night before. Now that both bands are toast and Dave's Picks have proven a success, the GD could release 10 June and the whole Watkins soundcheck on something like 6 discs and leave 9 June and 28 July alone for later, eventual release. The ABB could piece together the best of their four sets in those two concerts and they'd have a nice package. They killed it on 9 June and their sets at The Glen were killer as well, to my memory. Point being, let's hear these shows, and soon. I've heard a bit of tinny-sounding, purportedly soundboard tapes from both events and the sound quality couldn't do justice to the music. The upcoming 73-74 box will have to blow over to reach a good point for other summer '73 releases, but eventually 10 June and 27 July GD performances will have to come out. So sez me.
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Loudon Wainwright III once wrote... Driving on acid is easy Driving on acid's a breeze Just keep the car on the highway Don't laugh and don't fart and don't sneeze
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So Jerry would have been 76 today, Happy Birthday, Jerry!We miss him to say the least. Actually this is one for the Jerry Garcia Archive. If you have this show, what do you think about: Jerry Garcia Band November 23, 1977 Palace Theater Waterbury, Connecticut, USA Audience recording - soundboard recording unavailable. Set 1: How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) Catfish John That's What Love Will Make You Do I'll Take A Melody Simple Twist Of Fate Mission In The Rain SET 2: Let It Rock They Love Each Other Mystery Train Love In The Afternoon Reuben And Cherise Gomorrah Midnight Moonlight ENCORE: Lonesome And A Long Way From Home* A.) Inspired B.) Uninspired C.) This show is releaseable in the official GarciaLive release series. D.) This show is unreleaseable because it sux. E.) B-b-b-boring. F.) What a little blotter will do to give the listener the thought, "this is the greatest Jerry show ever!" G.) It wasn't the greatest, but for my former tape trading partner, Paul M. from Wolcott, CT., he had a great time with his GF - who is now his wife. *My copy does not have the encore.
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thanks for comments... striving to provide some feels like... we left the electric wild turkey with our new friends and neighbors, took over an hour to carefully wade out to the fringes, CKR was our code for Columbian Killer Reefer. Best thing available in Maine at the time. folks might not be aware that it is less than thirty miles between Watkins Glen and Cornell, each at the southern end of adjacent finger lakes talk about tripping reminded me of another event, will hop on the wayback machine ... a slightly out of control scene at my first Rolling Stones concert. Could have seen them in Baltimore in 1969 when my parents took my fourteen year old brothers ticket away from him after they figured out where he was headed, I said I would go, but in a perverse sense of fairness, they said if he can't go, we can't let you go either... Mom, Dad, its The Stones!!! Mother's little helper!! 17 at the time and would have driven there in a heartbeat. Get your Ya-yas out tour. So a quasi communal group of us dropped on our way down to RFK stadium on July 4, 1972 for Stevie Wonder and the Stones. Following the usual procedures, to enjoy and get the most of the experience, plan ahead for the right surroundings and people, have as much as possible set up for positive outcomes, a sober guide/monitor present if its a larger group. Not necessarily a large concert... We got in, found our seats, Stevie started to play but a lot of people weren't paying him much attention, he was back round for large scale craziness. Typical hot steamy DC late afternoon. What did get our attention was the tear gas trickling in from outside the stadium. Overly excited DC police were trying to stop people scaling the stadiums outside walls to get in free. Think about it, being up in the air over pavement, wall climbing and tear gassed, or inside admission paid and tripping and you get whiffs of tear gas. Whole sections of people got up and moved around to better air. Loud booing and jeering. DC police were pretty quick to use tear gas for crowd control back then, in the archives I have photos I took at Viet Nam antiwar demonstrations on the national mall and at the capital with smoking canisters flying every which way through the air. They herded demonstrators onto buses in those mass antiwar arrests and where did they take detainees for processing? Why RFK stadium of course. Fortunately the tear gas traces inside RFK that day were not horrific and passed quickly, the Stones eventually came out also at peak, Exile on Main Street tour, a great and long show and there were fireworks.... lots of fireworks
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So after tonight's Meet Up At The Movies...DL talks about this new box and introduces the artist behind the packaging.....What a BEAUTIFUL sight to see....Looks very sturdy and well constructed....I buy everything this band puts out from every era, and I know it is all about the music...but geez these packages look like sculptures on the display table.Meet Up At The Movies was great as usual, even though I already own the DVD, it is nice to chat with others that appreciate this band as much as I do. Don't miss this box!!!
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You've picked a great song and a great time to chase it down in. This is probably one of my top five Grateful Dead songs. I like them all a lot. I think the Download Series one from July is my least favorite, only because I don't think it's quite as developed at that point (for example the opening chords aren't quite as sharply executed, and the jam section where Jerry solos is shorter). Veneta is hard to beat, because it's longest, it's multi-track sourced, and the playing is exceptional. DaP 11 is also up there with Veneta for me. That one came almost 3 months later and the playing is just so good from having performed it so much by that time. Jerry's solo at the 3 minute mark is divine. Just listen to how he begins it! And of course the three from 9/21 - 9/27 are all solid (Jerry's a wee bit lower in the mix at Waterbury / 30 Trips). I'm still digesting DaP 24. The enhanced bass production is distracting for me. Once in awhile I can tune it out or get the EQ just right. I can't overstate how much Bill the drummer brings to this song. He's all over it with the drum rolls and ride cymbal. And then of course he has his little drum fill during that brief instrumental break before they all come back in again. Legendary. I'm looking forward to the first officially released 1973 Bird Song, coming along on this PNW Box Set. I'm going with the Dark Star finale from Dick's Picks 16 this morning. Unbelievable how good Uncle John's Band Jam sounds. I used to cherry-pick this song out for mixes, but it's even better within the structure of the complete Dark Star.
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The MUATM was very nice and seeing a happy Jerry interacting with Brent was sweet. There was about 20 people in the theater, all quiet for the show, but watching a show in deluxe lazy boy seats is so cool. thought we had missed the preview, but it came at the end AFTER the final credits and will probably be on this page soon as the Artist information clip. it was a short but interesting introduction to artist Roy Henry Vickers, who had the box in front of him as he described the idea behind it. it started with Dave, and he states that the artist is responsible for all the interior art. they might have showed the top cover taken off and the book is the top layer covering the contents, maybe a smaller wooden box that reminded me of the Warlocks box flashed by, but then went back to the artist. it is probably on youtube already and they just need to link it to this page, it's a standard seaside chat type clip. the box is a little smaller than the 30 Trips box, and won't fit on my shelves where it deserves to be, so it's off to the storage room after ripping. this should help move more copies as it looks really nice and they stuck to the outside, so no unpacking or reveal of the CD holders/digipacks. could be laminated card board or pressed sawdust, but from the outside it looks as sweet as the 72 steamer trunk.
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I am so looking forward to this box. The description sounds awesome. No storage room for this prize in my house. I am going to buy a 4 foot fucking pedestal for it and place it where the end table in the family room is soon used to be.
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What fun last night at MAUTM! There weren't many of us and the volume was low at first, but got better by the middle of the 1st set. we stood up and hooped and hollered between songs and sang along w/ IKO when Jerry told us to ... I enjoyed it thoroughly being there with a few buddies, but I am wondering why they would choose something already released on DVD. I love the show and have the DVD but am hoping that next year we get something we haven't seen released officially ... and then they can release it after and we'll buy it up. Something from Summer '91 perhaps!? PS -pumped for this bad ass box! Sept is going to rock!!!!
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I wonder if this box is big enough to fit all the other boxesthat sit on my shelf and collect dust? The art is SO COOL! I wouldn't mind having this one on display, I'm just not sure what should go in it (since I'm old-school, the cd's are going on my CD shelf)
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I am excited to get this. I am looking forward to all of it. I am most excited about the 6/24/73 show. The reason is back in tape trading days this one really didn't exist.. My Dead Base VI has the second set incomplete and nfa>gdtrfb>nfa as the only 3 songs.... I sort of already know what disc i am going to listen to first... have a good weekend everyone.. be good bob t
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Was a nice mental release to get to go to MUATM this week - I really needed it. That Box Set Reveal was Dave's best video update ever. I don't know why they have not put it up on dead.net, maybe waiting for Days Between to pass??? I suspect once people see it, they will be off the fence and having an awesome boxset on the way to their mailbox next month.
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Good to see you uncloak long enough to fire a photon torpedo! We are continuing your mission to share this music with the world. One head at a time. Keep on paddlin', brother!
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