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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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July 20, 2018 - 10:13am

#2371

Dennis

Joined:
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Mule Skinning Dylan Fan

First let us know when next Dylan comes out. I'm still digging Bootleg V13, I love all the different arrangements of the songs. (I assumed you're talking about a Volume 14?) Next naming conventions. Anal also. I shorten Lovelight, to Lovelight. I also shorten It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It takes a Train to Cry, to It Takes a Lot to Laugh. Me and Uncle is Me & My Uncle. I agree as long as they're all the same. I shorten some names because the full file name can get too long for my backup program to handle. (something like - the collection/grateful dead/shows/yyyy-mm-dd - venue - city/soundboard/05 - It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry) Not sure what the length is, but you can see where length can come in. Doesn't happen often, but has happened. Also too some names are just too fuckin long (train to cry for one)! I've been labeling every JGB show ever done (feels that way for sure) and I've come to the conclusion Motown songs have the longest titles, half of which are always in parenthesis! Another odd naming convention I've noticed is on rap albums, a shitload of them always have an "intro" and "outro" tracks at the beginning and end of the album, odd, but whatever, just don't see it in other music genre.
July 20, 2018 - 9:50am

#2372

muleskinner_blues

Joined:
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..And Leave it On Revisited

Oh was going to mention a few listenings: Just got the Anthem release, I've sampled a few of the Winterland show but haven't dug in yet. That Gibson sounds heavy heavy. Big Miles Davis kick here lately, just finished his autobiography which is awesome and hilarious. Highly recommend. Listening to the mono releases of his first Columbia LPs currently. New Punch Brothers today, haven't listened yet. Not a huge fan of their records necessarily just as much as their talent, Chris Thile is fantastic. Randomly had 4/2/90 second set come up so listened through that into 4/3/90. Maybe was just in the mood for some 90s, but really enjoyed both. Never realized each of Jerry, Brent, Weir take a verse on that last version of Death Don't Have No Mercy. Sweet!! Rumor / pseudo-confirmation that this Fall's Dylan Bootleg Series will finally revisit Blood on the Tracks. They released an acoustic Meet Me In The Morning on RSD back in 2012 when BOTT was planned for Bootleg Series 11 (even said so on the sleeve) but got shelved for a few years. Love the idea, though I'm really curious what is in the vault for that one. The outtakes we do know are limited..several outtakes of the released songs, but Up To Me, left off the album, is a killer. Though, I had never heard rumors of that acoustic Meet Me In The Morning so this could get interesting... Listening to Dead & Co jam on Lovelight from 6/10/17 now. Or is it Love Light?
July 20, 2018 - 9:38am

#2373

muleskinner_blues

Joined:
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..And Leave it On

Excited for both this and DaP27, looks to be alot of quality stuff. Very glad to see the Dave's get outside the well-mined era. Not very familiar with '83 other than 10/21/83 Worcester from 30 Trips and for some reason I also have 5/13/83, Greek Theatre. I'm trying to remember why...first Hell In A Bucket? As for the PNW, I picked up Winterland '73 right when I was getting into the Dead and listened to it on my trip cross country to see Dylan in Seattle, so '73 and the Pacific Northwest have been inextricably linked for me from the get-go. I know we've discussed track labeling and ID3 tags here before, some funny discussion that doesn't make me feel alone in the anal retentiveness of my collection. On that subject, I am OCD that every iteration of a given song is named the same..having both Me & My Uncles and Me and My Uncles in the collection disgusts me. So current conundrum - Turn On Your Love Light or Turn On Your Lovelight? My go-to is always go back to the original recording or release of a song and see how it was listed at that time (this approach led to me changing 137 versions of Don't Think Twice, It's Alright to Don't Think Twice, It's All Right) and the original Bobby Blue Bland release in 1961 on Duke is in fact Turn On Your Love Light. But for some reason, Turn On Your Lovelight looks better to me, and I feel more used on Dead releases (though they are inconsistent). Any thoughts? Or I also understand not making eye contact with the crazy guy on the subway. My other request/question - Any good recommendations for a console CD player? I know it's not 1994, but my 300 disc Sony changer has crapped out. I'm going to take a look at it, but thought about finding another, maybe a 5-6 disc changer. I don't use the full 300 but thought more than 1-disc would be good for these sets. Surely someone here still listens to these quality CD releases on their home stereo. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
July 20, 2018 - 9:30am

#2374

Slow Dog Noodle

Joined:
June 12, 2007

Sell Outs

We don't know how many subscribers there are on Dave's Picks, but production is capped at 18,000 per release. Based on the speed of sell outs i'm guessing there are between 15-16k subscribers, leaving only a few thousand up for grabs when they're announced. Again, that's a guess. There could be 17,800 subscribers. As noted, there are 15,000 units of the PNW box. I too am a little surprised its not sold out yet. I agree it's probably a combination of the fact it can be downloaded rather than physically delivered, combined with the higher (but by no means unreasonable, given the price per show) price point. I'm also shocked by the availability of the Summer '78 box set, given the quality of the shows and recordings, and the price point.
July 20, 2018 - 9:05am

#2375

hbob1995

Joined:
June 26, 2007

Not sold out

Do to the fact that you can buy downloads Plus almost all of the Dave’s Picks are sold during the subscription sale Rock on
July 20, 2018 - 9:02am

#2376

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

it's simple, roccodh...

A $30 DaP is easier to purchase than a $200+ box. The good news is that any true Deadhead can stop in and buy (3) 1973 shows and (3) 1974 shows just as fine as you please.
July 20, 2018 - 8:50am

#2377

roccodh

Joined:
October 10, 2016

Not Sold Out

Can someone explain to me that DP27 sold out in a matter of minutes, but the Pacific 73 - 74 haven't sold out yet and on sale for a few weeks. I personally thinks these shows are gonna be awesome and I snatch up the box set as soon as possible. Peace
July 20, 2018 - 8:20am

#2378

dmcvt

Joined:
April 4, 2013

Wild Turkey et al

Hmmm.... thanks for the cautionary words Jim & Dennis. I should make clear that I was not advocating a course of action, just reporting on something that happened 45 years ago. Stevie Ray made well known Guitar Slim's song: Things that I used to do, Lord, I won't do no more. Ain't it the truth, that was a one timer. At the time, it seemed like a good idea given that none of us really drank hard stuff, we were barely adults with a small tent and a cooler walking into who knew what. We did not know 600,000 would show up. The best beers we could find at the time were from Germany, Holland and Scotland. But they were so expensive! Bulky! St Pauli Girl, Spaten, Heineken, MacEwans. We loved beer but craft brews were yet to come. President Carter does not get enough credit for sparking what would become craft brewing by signing new law in 1978 and it would take at least ten more years before craft brewing began to take off. It was illegal to brew beer at home in some cases! Just think about how far beer has come in the last thirty years or so. We thought dosing a bottle which no one would dare chug (101 proof, right?) would be a convenient way to keep track of and merge little tiny dots or pieces of paper, which were sometimes notoriously variable in strength. Bourbon is for sipping! Jim's comment made me chuckle, what could possibly go wrong? Whatever can, often does. The sheer number of people and the weather that Saturday was the biggest challenge. Fortunately we escaped unscathed. I will refrain from any further comments involving attitude or altitude adjustments by external means, other than music. However, as you might imagine, there was a lot of availability on site of unknown provenance and authenticity. Be prepared was our Boy Scout motto. Safety First! See the cover for Only a Lad, Oingo Boingo for more details...
July 20, 2018 - 6:51am

#2379

KeithFan2112

Joined:
August 6, 2014

Here Comes Sunshine 12/6/73

16 minutes, from the show that brought us the monster 43 minute Dark Star on the 2011 Road Trips Bonus Disc. I had two versions of this soundboard. One sounded really good, but had an audience patch at the end; the other one didn't have the audience patch, but it sounded extremely rough in the beginning. I combined the two at around 15:27 for one complete good sounding track (38MB 320kbps mp3 converted from WAV) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t-DyrL7b9q6VvSw51B44caLcxxIw09mW
July 20, 2018 - 5:23am

#2380

fourwindsblow

Joined:
October 13, 2008

Unboxing?

In addition to the 30 shows the CD set includes a gold colored 7" vinyl with a 1965 Caution and a 1995 Box Of Rain (7/9/95)

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

Buyer beware! Never pre order from dead.net!

I have been given the complete runaround re: the pre order I paid for months ago. I’ve bought many things from dead.net in the past and I would now advise any deadhead to avoid that at all costs. I purchased this pre order weeks and weeks ago, and didn’t hear anything about my shipment till this weekend. I heard it ‘should’ be out by end of day Monday. I was then told it was shipped, and given tracking numbers that quite obviously showed it didn’t get shipped for days. Now, dead.net claims they sent my package as ‘overnight express’ yesterday. UPS says it is a ‘scheduled delivery’ of next Monday. The 17th. I’ve sent multiple emails to customer service and have received no help! For a pre order of several hundred dollars (both the box set and the Lp). I still have no idea when I’ll get it, and dead.bet additionally lied about the shipping they would use in their email. Don’t ever pre order from dead.net, they will treat you horribly for your troubles. I have friends who purchased this set after it came out and have received it before dead.net even bothered to *try* to ship mine. I’m still waiting for some sort of response here - getting a release multiple weeks late isn’t exactly a preorder. What’s the point. I’m not going to be purchasing any more subscriptions or preorders from here anymore unless this somehow gets resolved...

Money Money and Robbing Banks

Is it really good to have each and every Money Money perfectly remastered? ...made me chortle my drink. As for robbing banks.. One of the po-dunk banks a few miles from where I live was robbed a week or so ago and one of my friends works for the bank. ..which got us all talking about it. Fortunately there was a lawyer in the crowd. The plan is to borrow a backhoe from a nearby construction project and just crash through the back wall (where the money is).. have a bunch of raft guides nearby to grab as much cash as you possibly can in the next minute or three and get the hell out of dodge. If you demolish the building while grabbing the lute, there is less chance you will be caught on film and try grabbing a print from a pile of rubble. Makes perfect sense. None of this threaten the teller stuff.. Smash in the back wall after hours, after they are all gone, grab the loot and split. What could possibly go wrong? Now that I think about it.. there is one of those old WWII tanks sitting proudly in the town park about two blocks away from the local bank. We could fill it up with unleaded, fire it up, smash through the rear brick walls of the bank, cash and go and be home by dinner. That sounds more fun than the Money Money listening party. I guess what I was trying to say is there is a reason they only played it thrice. Apologies to all that love this song (I am sure there are plenty). It just never gelled with me. Again, apologies..

Scuffs 'N Scratches

Great name for a parody band. After reading about the disc issues, I'm afraid to open mine now. I got into show one last night in a dark room and didn't even think to look. Went back just now. Disc one has scuffs and small scratches. Disc 2 and 3 are okay so far. This is like opening the briefcases in Let's Make a Deal and hoping you don't get f**ked. Here it comes, night in the ruts.

Scuffs 'N Scratches

@Tali

Reach out to MaryE on this board via PM or email Dr. Rhino at Dr.Rhino@Rhino.com. They'll be able to help out and get this resolved. I've had issues over the years that were quickly resolved. Try purchasing the Europe 72 All Music Edition and only receiving one show... They corrected. I've also had bad disks in first May boxset and a couple of Dick's Picks without issue. I would not expect Rhino Customer Service to directly respond on these threads, but Mary will chime in from time to time. I was initially a little pissed at first that I signed up for Expedited Shipping and wasn't going to get it until today, but as Jim says what's a couple of more days, I'm just psyched they're releasing one of my favorite periods of my favorite bands after all these years. We are such lucky fans. I'm sorry for your loss and I hope it get's resolved to your satisfaction.

Overnight Express or Express

I am not mistaken that I have never heard of this before. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. I am sorry for your woes.. it will come. I believe someone else posted here if you paid extra for 'expedited delivery' you can probably get that refunded. I honestly have never heard of this language being used before by dead.net and it's not on my email. I would follow Bobs advice and if you paid extra for expedited shipping ask for a refund on that portion of the costs. What else can you do at this point? Sorry for your woes, no offense meant. Not pre-ordering from Dead.net, especially for items that often sell out before the pre-order is over (not the case for this box, they are still for sale) often means if you want it you have to get it from eBay at double or triple the price. Once it sells out, it will be more expensive on the secondary market. Just my two cents. Edit: Also, check the UPS tracking. For most that ordered this, the first shipping notice was conservative and it arrived before that, the delivery date being adjusted all the while. I do not recall an overnight delivery option available when I ordered mine, just 'expedited' I understand your frustration, follow Bob's advise. He is a kind and wise man. On an unrelated note - does anyone have a backhoe I can borrow?

Scratched discs

Wow! Really disappointed to spend all of this money and receive scratched discs. How does this happen? Makes you really not want to buy cds anymore. I have bought every box set the Dead have put out with the exception of the giant Europe '72 box set. This is will be my last one. Disgraceful

Here

Not exactly sure why I’m being made out to be a liar, but here you go I went to the trouble of screenshooting it for you: https://imgur.com/a/zg7SQb5

@Bob

Thanks. Yeah this is what I’m sort of falling back to (complaining on here) after multiple attempts to reach out to customer service have failed with no response. I kicked this all off last week after I heard nothing about any shipping despite pre ordering. Folks I know who bought it last week got ishipping notification pretty near immediately after ordering it. I guess they had my money already so why bother trying to treat me properly. Would it not be galling to anyone else that basic purchases seem to guarantee a faster delivery and better service than a pre order? Folks who hadn’t ordered it until after I kicked off my customer service attempt have received it. I only got working tracking info today, and that info claims a scheduled delivery of 8-9 days from now at the earliest despite dead.net claiming they sent it as a next morning package. I ordered these sets about two months ago. If I had known it would be like this, I definitely wouldn’t have ordered at all.

I knew there was a reason

I knew there was a reason I avoided this box. I listened to the "Believe It If You Need It" compilation and was not impressed. The BC show from '73 always drove me crazy because Weir is so high up in the mix, it sounds like Jerry isn't even playing. The rest of the stuff is typical material of the era. No real surprises. Much more interested in September of '72 right now. Etree will take care of the rest. I have more than I could ever possibly listen to. 3 years later and I still havem't fully digested the 30 Trips Box. Now if some sweet '87 SBDs start surfacing and getting released; I'll perk up

BOX WAS EMPTY!!!!

Just kidding! 9335 arrived in VA just in time for a hurricane Florence weekend long listening party! Love the box set it's awesome. Very light scratches on discs 15 and 19 but luckily they don't look like they'll effect playing. Won't know till I get to them. I hope their will be plenty more sweet box sets for CDs in the future. Everyone who got a copy, enjoy!

Strong Words Tali

The intent was never to make you out to be a liar.. I said I have never heard of this before. Additionally, mine looks nothing like this, the top is the same the bottom says: Shipped By Tracking Number UPS 1Z910636P237697XXX - Track Package It looks to me you are incensed by the language on the shipping label that it was shipped overnight next morning. Ask for a refund on shipping. I just dropped a new box in my cart to be sure. When you order this the shipping options are: Domestic Standard $11.99 Expedited $15.99 There is NO guarantee that this get delivered UPS Next Morning Express. I never called you a liar nor meant to imply it.. I simply said I have never heard of this before, which is correct. Sorry for your woes man.. I really am.. but you are complaining on how this was shipped. Clearly you select Expedited (which I did not), when you bought the box. It looks to me like dead.net paid extra for your shipping, but your box was not one of the first to leave the warehouse. I hope you get your four dollars back. I really do. Sorry for your woes.. I have not gotten my box either. Sorry for not being upset by this. I'm honestly not bothered at all, what matters to me is the music.. and I have already waited 45 years for this. I have plenty to listen to.

So What Do You Think About The Mix ?

Cub sez: I received mine today (minor scratches n all) but what was most unnerving was the far-away Jerry vocals while someone else is blowing my fillings loose with hers. After reading what a fellow Heads wrote about this release it answered many questions I previously had about the mix. PEACE RE:(pasted from other Deadhead's comment) I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.

05306

#05306 landed relatively safely here this afternoon. Box looks great. 7 of the 19 discs have scratches; some are worse than others but at least two won't rip to iTunes. Same thing happened to me with several discs from the GTSL box, and Rhino were pretty quick to replace them, so hopefully they will come through again this time. It's a bummer, but as long as they replace the damaged discs, it's not a major issue. I do hope they inspect the replacement discs before sending them, though! Eager to start listening tomorrow when I have the house to myself.

Print Screens

Here are my print screens. Thanks for the Imgur trick, never used it before.. handy. https://imgur.com/a/mIbqKdK ..and here is language on the shipping when you ordered it. https://imgur.com/a/Le9xiXK Again, never called you a liar nor meant to imply it. ..but there was never a guarantee that you get it the next day and they did pay for expedited shipping for you (more correctly you paid for expedited shipping and they passed it through via their shipping costs). It looks to me like it's all dependent on when they release these boxes from their warehouse to shipping. I still have not received mine myself and I ordered it literally just after it was announced. I have no idea how they decide in what order they release items from their warehouse.. but that is the source of your grief. I have never heard about delivery via overnight shipping before today.. and looking over the ordering process, was this really what you paid the extra $4 for in the first place? Sorry for your trouble.. I will gladly send you a check for $4 if this whole issue goes away.

@MDJim...HAHAHAHAHA

I'll chip in $2...wow I think I'm gonna build an altar and place this on top....I've ripped all the '73 shows (Both EAC & iTunes) with nary a glitch so I guess they're good to go...the actual CD's will now go back in the box for a bit while I play CDR's in my car and my iPod while I'm acting like I'm working...will work on '74 in a few days...

If you don't just pass it on....

#14040 arrived safely today. Got thru first 2 discs. Time capsule transparent sound with a perfect amount of stage mics bleed picking up the crowd. It's gonna take me weeks to digest this. Makes me feel like i'm on the rail with a big ol' smile on my face! Thanks Dave, etc. for bringing these archival sounds to us fans.

@mdjim

I mean... it has nothing to do with the price paid, that’s inconsequential. It’s the principle of the thing. And the lack of communication. Why put up with preorders being treated that way?

So Far

Nothing remarkable to report. I still have one more Playing in the Band to listen to. But so far, so good.

Pre-Orders

That's a valid point, something I completely understand and you have a right to be a bit miffed. As for communication, I get the impression they are not heavily staffed and when these big orders come out.. and.. well.. you know. It takes them a while to make good on errors and each time something goes wrong. Still, they do seem to pull through in the end. ..but recommending no one ever pre-order? Well.. there are a lot of items that sold out during the pre-order and the prices were (are) quite high via eBay and the secondary market. Thinking FW 69, E72 and a few others.. fortunately not this box, but you just never know. I have been surprised more than once and once it does sell out your remaining option is to shell-out more money. Yes.. they are a bit screwed up, but don't let it get to you. They almost always make good if you have a valid complaint or something is defective. It's going to be alright and Amazon and eBay do not make a great fall back plan, on this I am confident. I would not recommend ignoring the pre-order. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Next Morning Express

My shipping notification also had this on it, however I live in Australia and expedited was not offered for international orders. Mine is scheduled to arrive this Friday which would make it about the fastest ever from Deadnet. 6 days from confirmation it would be if it does arrive Friday. So I got that going for me, which is nice....

My pre-order

Just notified it will be delivered here on the left coast next Monday, 9/17, probably after some folks outside the U.S. receive theirs. That don't bother me none - I'm pretty sure I'll survive. Glad so many are already enjoying this treasure. Play it loud, friends!

Out for delivery, in Sweden!

Simonrob, close the blinds and stop the pig sightings, its out for delivery!Seems that a few of us living in Yurrup will be anxiously scanning for scratches and blemishes ere the day is over.

Fast is not the right word...

According to the UPS tracking, my order had a departure scan in Cologne, Germany at 3:13 this morning and the customs agency in Rotterdam decided that I would have to pay import duties. That was at 3:52. I would dearly like to know how they got the thing from Cologne to Rotterdam in 39 minutes, considering just the flight time alone is typically 50 minutes. I guess they know how important this is!

And now it is out for delivery.

The UPS depot is only 15km (about 10 miles) from my house, so hopefully sooner rather than later. PS: It is raining here this morning so all pigs have been grounded.

My box arrived safely

11593 arrived safely without any blemishes or nicks to the shipping container or the box itself. A quick inspection of the box shows no scratches or other blemishes on the discs. If there are playing problems, I will play the questionable disc on other compact disc players first to see if its a disc problem or a player problem.

Its not a race but....

Simonrob, 15 kilometers with Dutch traffic as against 100 kilometers with no cars on the roads...

Its not a race but...

I just won.Its in the house.

#3822 in the house

The damn dog woke me up extra early this AM. Almost like she knew I wanted to get cracking on this. All discs accounted for. Everything looks clean. First show ripped w/o trouble. Floating merrily along to Bird Song right now. The sound on Bertha seemed a little off -- like the mix was shifting and changing during the song -- but then it settles in. Bird Song is sublime. Best wishes to everyone with their ordering snafus. *Fingers crossed* so far I guess I got lucky.

Scheduled for today

And hopefully this morning. I'm getting a bit paranoid, as people used to say, about the potential state of these discs. It never occurs to me to check new cds for scratches etc-and I don't automatically burn them. Just slot them in the disc holder and hit play. So far, everything I have bought from deadnet. has been picture perfect-except for a couple of tracks on the second cd of the 1973 box-11/9/73. There's a loud scratch noise on "Greatest Story", and then the disc just skips through the track and the following "Bertha" Bizarrely I just accepted this at the time-2008 it came out. I'm not so forgiving now.

Cd covers...

Maybe Rhino should look at the cd covers that Nugsnet use for the Dead & Company cds. They work great and look good. Mr. Pete--------------> aging hippie

hats off, mine arrived in

hats off, mine arrived in southern Germany this morning. I thought I will wait 4 more weeks. Well done guys, nothing left to do but smile smile smile :)

Arrived in the UK!

We were told to wait 4-6 weeks, and normally by the time we get these things on our side of the pond the excitement is over and the discussion has moved on to the next release. Not this time though. UPS just delivered it here in England all in A1 condition.

MDJim and shipping

The way shipping seems to work, through orders on Dead.net. I too, have complained about shipping. I really don't understand with all, the lead time. Why it can't be in my mailbox, on release date, if I pre-order. Pre-order just reserves your place in line. When they decide to ship, your product. They will ship it by the method, you have requested. I have yet to see an actual promise, that any of these orders, could arrive day of release. Whatever the cost. I would like to think they are concentrating on releases, over seas and to the Northern and Southern most area, lest likely effected by Hurricane Florence. Ship to the West, after Florence passes. I hope you are going to be safe, as well as others. Live in Fla., quite aware of what damage can incur.

Hurricane Florence

If you are in her path, be safe. If you are expecting PNW. Make sure to leave a note on door and have a plastic container, for them to place into. Hate for someone to arrive and see melting cardboard on front steps.

Daverock

The box is beautiful and arrived in pristine condition. First (!)cd I inspected has a viscious and large scuff which renders the cd unplayable, another had a scuff mark which played through just fine, the others seem ok.So, once again I will be contacting customer service for a replacement-which means extra import duties-, but Ill play through everything first so as not to miss anything else. Such a shame any rudimentory quality control would have spotted and fished out the offending cd and obviated the extra hassle, but I guess we are used to it by now. I buy HUNDREDS of cds from Japan and never have an issue, from Rhino nearly every time... BUT, on the positive side, I am not getting any younger and I was expecting at least another 6 week wait.

One of the Best Box sets yet

what a beautiful set, a real Objet d'art.it sounds much better than the SBD tapes that have circulated for years and have all the same mix problems, but now they are much more noticeable due to the new transfer. i just figured out how to get it back in the shipping box, which is a marvel in itself from a couple pieces of folded cardboard. hint, leave the tape and shipping info on the outside box and use a razor to cut the tape, it adds structural integrity to the shipping box for reuse. upon closer inspection, the sculptural cover is cardboard, but the box appears to be laminated plywood. too bad about the typical Rhino Box set roll out. delivery issues, CD issues, download issues... even the LP rollout is flawwed. http://www.dead.net/store/music/new-releases/portland-memorial-coliseum… meanwhile amazon has the vinyl for $109 with 2 day prime delivery.

Shipping

My box has been in the Houston area, just 40 miles away, for 30 hours now. Hopefully I can get it today but it’s still scheduled for tomorrow.

11351 made it to the Netherlands

Beautiful box, no damage, just starting June 22...

melting cardboard?

I think most of us have seen _that_ before :))) my box set is scheduled to arrive today...yay pplleeaassee...let my copy have no issues...pplleeaassee...

progress

After spending a couple days with the first show, I'm on to the next. Really enjoying this ride.. My plan was to take even longer with each show, but it's sort of like having a lot of good wine in the house. I can tell myself all I want that I'm going to save them and take my time, but somehow it never works like that....

UPS Highway Robbery....

Home from work to find a note from UPS...attempted delivery but I need to provide a further 48.71 GBP Import Tax before they will release the box set.... as if the overseas charges weren't bad enough in the first place!. Lets just hope that the discs are scratch-free

An All-Music Edition soon?

I can foresee an All-Music-Edition in the future at WarnerMarket @ Amazon. For the same price of this box, without all the "bells & whistles."

Portland 1974 - 6 LP

Record shops in Columbus have it for $120 , maybe $130 on the high end. Still looking for the poster / lithograph and wooden box ? Any help Rhino? Toss me a bone Lol 9.8.73 - "Like a song that's born to soar the sky" 9.12.73 - "Looks Like Rain" ~ "Here Comes Sunshine" Rhino - Sugar Magnolia ~ 10.2.72 5.4.77 4.29.84

Mix

Don't know why people complain about the mix on the releases. These are the same mixes of shows that have been available to us for years. Why don't you just go to archives and stream them before you buy them. Do people think the vault has different mixes than whats been out there for years? https://archive.org/details/gd1973-06-22.140897.sbd.pcm.composite.dalto… https://archive.org/details/gd1973-06-24.sbd.miller.99852.sbeok.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd73-06-26.sbd.cotsman.12076.sbeok.shnf https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-17.sbd.miller.89972.sbeok.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-19.sbd.miller.116983.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd74-05-21.sbd.belkin.2597.sbefail.shnf

UPS hit on the UK

Just been fleeced of £59.60 ($78) by UPS to take delivery in the UK despite having paid Us Postal Service handling up front. I am assuming, as with the last time this happened DeadNet will be refund us poor Europeans the outrageous cost. Dis-chuffed Brit.

UPS Highway Robbery....

Just got hit for £50.69 so there isn't even any consistency to their thievery!

Highway robbery...

This has nothing to do with shipping costs. Did you not know that most countries levy import duty on items above a certain (low) value? UPS do this quickly and efficiently so it does not appreciably delay delivery. Good luck with trying to get UK tax refunded by dead.net!

UK Tax

My box set arrived this afternoon. Cost £50.69 to retrieve it from UPS. Sometimes you pay sometimes they just appear to ignore the tax. I pay when I have to and celebrate when I don’t.The box arrived in perfect condition and four weeks before I expected to see it based on previous orders. The discs look OK visually and I’ve played discs 1, 15 and 18 with no problems. A more thorough listen will have to wait until I get back from Egypt at the end of the month. Just as well it turned up today or who knows what might have happened to it. Always look forward to seeing what will turn up next.

4WindsBlow: Agree with you, buuuuuuut

I was just reading comments on the LP release page. All I could think about the 'Side C" complaints was "you guys never heard the tapes before? WTF?".Buuuut I have noticed over the years here that there is a significant portion of the regular commenters who only experience Deadmusic through official releases. They either are internet-ignorant and aren't aware of LMA or the innumerable ways to D/L shows and/or they have never had any involvement with the classic 80s/90s Deadtape-sharing community. Thus, they make statements that leave those of us with much free-Dead experience shaking our heads. Some of these people seem to have entered this world via interest in the new GDM angles on Dead-music marketing: high-quality sound and limited editions. To us old-school Heads these people often sound like they belong somewhere else. But here they are, so just grin and bear it. GDM needs a thriving customer base to keep on selling us Deadproduct. These newbies may seem (to us) to be foolish with their complaints, but their purchases are helping to keep the golden eggs coming! Unless you have been listening to Deadshows for decades, the "warts and all" reality of the existing recordings must be pretty shocking. Most performers' releases are limited to the "just exactly perfect" material. So the ground rules of GDM's endeavor to release LOTS O' DEAD must take some getting used to! I do second your motion: People, if you worry about sound issues, audit the tapes via Live Music Archive or at least read the reviews there.

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