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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • RobbZ
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    1989 Recommendation
    Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
  • RobbZ
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    Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!
    Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
  • Oroborous
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    Thanks, another great story!
  • Oroborous
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    Right on 80sfan!
  • Oroborous
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    BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
  • Oroboros
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    Cousins- SpaceBro often provides informed recommendations re: 89
    But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
  • tncorey
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    New story to me...and much appreciated!
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    Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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I have been given the complete runaround re: the pre order I paid for months ago. I’ve bought many things from dead.net in the past and I would now advise any deadhead to avoid that at all costs. I purchased this pre order weeks and weeks ago, and didn’t hear anything about my shipment till this weekend. I heard it ‘should’ be out by end of day Monday. I was then told it was shipped, and given tracking numbers that quite obviously showed it didn’t get shipped for days. Now, dead.net claims they sent my package as ‘overnight express’ yesterday. UPS says it is a ‘scheduled delivery’ of next Monday. The 17th. I’ve sent multiple emails to customer service and have received no help! For a pre order of several hundred dollars (both the box set and the Lp). I still have no idea when I’ll get it, and dead.bet additionally lied about the shipping they would use in their email. Don’t ever pre order from dead.net, they will treat you horribly for your troubles. I have friends who purchased this set after it came out and have received it before dead.net even bothered to *try* to ship mine. I’m still waiting for some sort of response here - getting a release multiple weeks late isn’t exactly a preorder. What’s the point. I’m not going to be purchasing any more subscriptions or preorders from here anymore unless this somehow gets resolved...
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Is it really good to have each and every Money Money perfectly remastered? ...made me chortle my drink. As for robbing banks.. One of the po-dunk banks a few miles from where I live was robbed a week or so ago and one of my friends works for the bank. ..which got us all talking about it. Fortunately there was a lawyer in the crowd. The plan is to borrow a backhoe from a nearby construction project and just crash through the back wall (where the money is).. have a bunch of raft guides nearby to grab as much cash as you possibly can in the next minute or three and get the hell out of dodge. If you demolish the building while grabbing the lute, there is less chance you will be caught on film and try grabbing a print from a pile of rubble. Makes perfect sense. None of this threaten the teller stuff.. Smash in the back wall after hours, after they are all gone, grab the loot and split. What could possibly go wrong? Now that I think about it.. there is one of those old WWII tanks sitting proudly in the town park about two blocks away from the local bank. We could fill it up with unleaded, fire it up, smash through the rear brick walls of the bank, cash and go and be home by dinner. That sounds more fun than the Money Money listening party. I guess what I was trying to say is there is a reason they only played it thrice. Apologies to all that love this song (I am sure there are plenty). It just never gelled with me. Again, apologies..
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Great name for a parody band. After reading about the disc issues, I'm afraid to open mine now. I got into show one last night in a dark room and didn't even think to look. Went back just now. Disc one has scuffs and small scratches. Disc 2 and 3 are okay so far. This is like opening the briefcases in Let's Make a Deal and hoping you don't get f**ked. Here it comes, night in the ruts.
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Great name for a parody band. After reading about the disc issues, I'm afraid to open mine now. I got into show one last night in a dark room and didn't even think to look. Went back just now. Disc one has scuffs and small scratches. Disc 2 and 3 are okay so far. This is like opening the briefcases in Let's Make a Deal and hoping you don't get f**ked. Here it comes, night in the ruts.
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Reach out to MaryE on this board via PM or email Dr. Rhino at Dr.Rhino@Rhino.com. They'll be able to help out and get this resolved. I've had issues over the years that were quickly resolved. Try purchasing the Europe 72 All Music Edition and only receiving one show... They corrected. I've also had bad disks in first May boxset and a couple of Dick's Picks without issue. I would not expect Rhino Customer Service to directly respond on these threads, but Mary will chime in from time to time. I was initially a little pissed at first that I signed up for Expedited Shipping and wasn't going to get it until today, but as Jim says what's a couple of more days, I'm just psyched they're releasing one of my favorite periods of my favorite bands after all these years. We are such lucky fans. I'm sorry for your loss and I hope it get's resolved to your satisfaction.
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I am not mistaken that I have never heard of this before. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. I am sorry for your woes.. it will come. I believe someone else posted here if you paid extra for 'expedited delivery' you can probably get that refunded. I honestly have never heard of this language being used before by dead.net and it's not on my email. I would follow Bobs advice and if you paid extra for expedited shipping ask for a refund on that portion of the costs. What else can you do at this point? Sorry for your woes, no offense meant. Not pre-ordering from Dead.net, especially for items that often sell out before the pre-order is over (not the case for this box, they are still for sale) often means if you want it you have to get it from eBay at double or triple the price. Once it sells out, it will be more expensive on the secondary market. Just my two cents. Edit: Also, check the UPS tracking. For most that ordered this, the first shipping notice was conservative and it arrived before that, the delivery date being adjusted all the while. I do not recall an overnight delivery option available when I ordered mine, just 'expedited' I understand your frustration, follow Bob's advise. He is a kind and wise man. On an unrelated note - does anyone have a backhoe I can borrow?
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Wow! Really disappointed to spend all of this money and receive scratched discs. How does this happen? Makes you really not want to buy cds anymore. I have bought every box set the Dead have put out with the exception of the giant Europe '72 box set. This is will be my last one. Disgraceful
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Not exactly sure why I’m being made out to be a liar, but here you go I went to the trouble of screenshooting it for you: https://imgur.com/a/zg7SQb5
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Thanks. Yeah this is what I’m sort of falling back to (complaining on here) after multiple attempts to reach out to customer service have failed with no response. I kicked this all off last week after I heard nothing about any shipping despite pre ordering. Folks I know who bought it last week got ishipping notification pretty near immediately after ordering it. I guess they had my money already so why bother trying to treat me properly. Would it not be galling to anyone else that basic purchases seem to guarantee a faster delivery and better service than a pre order? Folks who hadn’t ordered it until after I kicked off my customer service attempt have received it. I only got working tracking info today, and that info claims a scheduled delivery of 8-9 days from now at the earliest despite dead.net claiming they sent it as a next morning package. I ordered these sets about two months ago. If I had known it would be like this, I definitely wouldn’t have ordered at all.
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I knew there was a reason I avoided this box. I listened to the "Believe It If You Need It" compilation and was not impressed. The BC show from '73 always drove me crazy because Weir is so high up in the mix, it sounds like Jerry isn't even playing. The rest of the stuff is typical material of the era. No real surprises. Much more interested in September of '72 right now. Etree will take care of the rest. I have more than I could ever possibly listen to. 3 years later and I still havem't fully digested the 30 Trips Box. Now if some sweet '87 SBDs start surfacing and getting released; I'll perk up
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Just kidding! 9335 arrived in VA just in time for a hurricane Florence weekend long listening party! Love the box set it's awesome. Very light scratches on discs 15 and 19 but luckily they don't look like they'll effect playing. Won't know till I get to them. I hope their will be plenty more sweet box sets for CDs in the future. Everyone who got a copy, enjoy!
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The intent was never to make you out to be a liar.. I said I have never heard of this before. Additionally, mine looks nothing like this, the top is the same the bottom says: Shipped By Tracking Number UPS 1Z910636P237697XXX - Track Package It looks to me you are incensed by the language on the shipping label that it was shipped overnight next morning. Ask for a refund on shipping. I just dropped a new box in my cart to be sure. When you order this the shipping options are: Domestic Standard $11.99 Expedited $15.99 There is NO guarantee that this get delivered UPS Next Morning Express. I never called you a liar nor meant to imply it.. I simply said I have never heard of this before, which is correct. Sorry for your woes man.. I really am.. but you are complaining on how this was shipped. Clearly you select Expedited (which I did not), when you bought the box. It looks to me like dead.net paid extra for your shipping, but your box was not one of the first to leave the warehouse. I hope you get your four dollars back. I really do. Sorry for your woes.. I have not gotten my box either. Sorry for not being upset by this. I'm honestly not bothered at all, what matters to me is the music.. and I have already waited 45 years for this. I have plenty to listen to.
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Cub sez: I received mine today (minor scratches n all) but what was most unnerving was the far-away Jerry vocals while someone else is blowing my fillings loose with hers. After reading what a fellow Heads wrote about this release it answered many questions I previously had about the mix. PEACE RE:(pasted from other Deadhead's comment) I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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#05306 landed relatively safely here this afternoon. Box looks great. 7 of the 19 discs have scratches; some are worse than others but at least two won't rip to iTunes. Same thing happened to me with several discs from the GTSL box, and Rhino were pretty quick to replace them, so hopefully they will come through again this time. It's a bummer, but as long as they replace the damaged discs, it's not a major issue. I do hope they inspect the replacement discs before sending them, though! Eager to start listening tomorrow when I have the house to myself.
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Here are my print screens. Thanks for the Imgur trick, never used it before.. handy. https://imgur.com/a/mIbqKdK ..and here is language on the shipping when you ordered it. https://imgur.com/a/Le9xiXK Again, never called you a liar nor meant to imply it. ..but there was never a guarantee that you get it the next day and they did pay for expedited shipping for you (more correctly you paid for expedited shipping and they passed it through via their shipping costs). It looks to me like it's all dependent on when they release these boxes from their warehouse to shipping. I still have not received mine myself and I ordered it literally just after it was announced. I have no idea how they decide in what order they release items from their warehouse.. but that is the source of your grief. I have never heard about delivery via overnight shipping before today.. and looking over the ordering process, was this really what you paid the extra $4 for in the first place? Sorry for your trouble.. I will gladly send you a check for $4 if this whole issue goes away.
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I'll chip in $2...wow I think I'm gonna build an altar and place this on top....I've ripped all the '73 shows (Both EAC & iTunes) with nary a glitch so I guess they're good to go...the actual CD's will now go back in the box for a bit while I play CDR's in my car and my iPod while I'm acting like I'm working...will work on '74 in a few days...
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#14040 arrived safely today. Got thru first 2 discs. Time capsule transparent sound with a perfect amount of stage mics bleed picking up the crowd. It's gonna take me weeks to digest this. Makes me feel like i'm on the rail with a big ol' smile on my face! Thanks Dave, etc. for bringing these archival sounds to us fans.
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I mean... it has nothing to do with the price paid, that’s inconsequential. It’s the principle of the thing. And the lack of communication. Why put up with preorders being treated that way?
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Nothing remarkable to report. I still have one more Playing in the Band to listen to. But so far, so good.
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That's a valid point, something I completely understand and you have a right to be a bit miffed. As for communication, I get the impression they are not heavily staffed and when these big orders come out.. and.. well.. you know. It takes them a while to make good on errors and each time something goes wrong. Still, they do seem to pull through in the end. ..but recommending no one ever pre-order? Well.. there are a lot of items that sold out during the pre-order and the prices were (are) quite high via eBay and the secondary market. Thinking FW 69, E72 and a few others.. fortunately not this box, but you just never know. I have been surprised more than once and once it does sell out your remaining option is to shell-out more money. Yes.. they are a bit screwed up, but don't let it get to you. They almost always make good if you have a valid complaint or something is defective. It's going to be alright and Amazon and eBay do not make a great fall back plan, on this I am confident. I would not recommend ignoring the pre-order. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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My shipping notification also had this on it, however I live in Australia and expedited was not offered for international orders. Mine is scheduled to arrive this Friday which would make it about the fastest ever from Deadnet. 6 days from confirmation it would be if it does arrive Friday. So I got that going for me, which is nice....
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Just notified it will be delivered here on the left coast next Monday, 9/17, probably after some folks outside the U.S. receive theirs. That don't bother me none - I'm pretty sure I'll survive. Glad so many are already enjoying this treasure. Play it loud, friends!
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Simonrob, close the blinds and stop the pig sightings, its out for delivery!Seems that a few of us living in Yurrup will be anxiously scanning for scratches and blemishes ere the day is over.
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According to the UPS tracking, my order had a departure scan in Cologne, Germany at 3:13 this morning and the customs agency in Rotterdam decided that I would have to pay import duties. That was at 3:52. I would dearly like to know how they got the thing from Cologne to Rotterdam in 39 minutes, considering just the flight time alone is typically 50 minutes. I guess they know how important this is!
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The UPS depot is only 15km (about 10 miles) from my house, so hopefully sooner rather than later. PS: It is raining here this morning so all pigs have been grounded.
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11593 arrived safely without any blemishes or nicks to the shipping container or the box itself. A quick inspection of the box shows no scratches or other blemishes on the discs. If there are playing problems, I will play the questionable disc on other compact disc players first to see if its a disc problem or a player problem.
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Simonrob, 15 kilometers with Dutch traffic as against 100 kilometers with no cars on the roads...
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The damn dog woke me up extra early this AM. Almost like she knew I wanted to get cracking on this. All discs accounted for. Everything looks clean. First show ripped w/o trouble. Floating merrily along to Bird Song right now. The sound on Bertha seemed a little off -- like the mix was shifting and changing during the song -- but then it settles in. Bird Song is sublime. Best wishes to everyone with their ordering snafus. *Fingers crossed* so far I guess I got lucky.
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And hopefully this morning. I'm getting a bit paranoid, as people used to say, about the potential state of these discs. It never occurs to me to check new cds for scratches etc-and I don't automatically burn them. Just slot them in the disc holder and hit play. So far, everything I have bought from deadnet. has been picture perfect-except for a couple of tracks on the second cd of the 1973 box-11/9/73. There's a loud scratch noise on "Greatest Story", and then the disc just skips through the track and the following "Bertha" Bizarrely I just accepted this at the time-2008 it came out. I'm not so forgiving now.
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Maybe Rhino should look at the cd covers that Nugsnet use for the Dead & Company cds. They work great and look good. Mr. Pete--------------> aging hippie
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hats off, mine arrived in southern Germany this morning. I thought I will wait 4 more weeks. Well done guys, nothing left to do but smile smile smile :)
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We were told to wait 4-6 weeks, and normally by the time we get these things on our side of the pond the excitement is over and the discussion has moved on to the next release. Not this time though. UPS just delivered it here in England all in A1 condition.
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The way shipping seems to work, through orders on Dead.net. I too, have complained about shipping. I really don't understand with all, the lead time. Why it can't be in my mailbox, on release date, if I pre-order. Pre-order just reserves your place in line. When they decide to ship, your product. They will ship it by the method, you have requested. I have yet to see an actual promise, that any of these orders, could arrive day of release. Whatever the cost. I would like to think they are concentrating on releases, over seas and to the Northern and Southern most area, lest likely effected by Hurricane Florence. Ship to the West, after Florence passes. I hope you are going to be safe, as well as others. Live in Fla., quite aware of what damage can incur.
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If you are in her path, be safe. If you are expecting PNW. Make sure to leave a note on door and have a plastic container, for them to place into. Hate for someone to arrive and see melting cardboard on front steps.
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The box is beautiful and arrived in pristine condition. First (!)cd I inspected has a viscious and large scuff which renders the cd unplayable, another had a scuff mark which played through just fine, the others seem ok.So, once again I will be contacting customer service for a replacement-which means extra import duties-, but Ill play through everything first so as not to miss anything else. Such a shame any rudimentory quality control would have spotted and fished out the offending cd and obviated the extra hassle, but I guess we are used to it by now. I buy HUNDREDS of cds from Japan and never have an issue, from Rhino nearly every time... BUT, on the positive side, I am not getting any younger and I was expecting at least another 6 week wait.
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what a beautiful set, a real Objet d'art.it sounds much better than the SBD tapes that have circulated for years and have all the same mix problems, but now they are much more noticeable due to the new transfer. i just figured out how to get it back in the shipping box, which is a marvel in itself from a couple pieces of folded cardboard. hint, leave the tape and shipping info on the outside box and use a razor to cut the tape, it adds structural integrity to the shipping box for reuse. upon closer inspection, the sculptural cover is cardboard, but the box appears to be laminated plywood. too bad about the typical Rhino Box set roll out. delivery issues, CD issues, download issues... even the LP rollout is flawwed. http://www.dead.net/store/music/new-releases/portland-memorial-coliseum… meanwhile amazon has the vinyl for $109 with 2 day prime delivery.
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My box has been in the Houston area, just 40 miles away, for 30 hours now. Hopefully I can get it today but it’s still scheduled for tomorrow.
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I think most of us have seen _that_ before :))) my box set is scheduled to arrive today...yay pplleeaassee...let my copy have no issues...pplleeaassee...
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After spending a couple days with the first show, I'm on to the next. Really enjoying this ride.. My plan was to take even longer with each show, but it's sort of like having a lot of good wine in the house. I can tell myself all I want that I'm going to save them and take my time, but somehow it never works like that....
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Home from work to find a note from UPS...attempted delivery but I need to provide a further 48.71 GBP Import Tax before they will release the box set.... as if the overseas charges weren't bad enough in the first place!. Lets just hope that the discs are scratch-free
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I can foresee an All-Music-Edition in the future at WarnerMarket @ Amazon. For the same price of this box, without all the "bells & whistles."
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Record shops in Columbus have it for $120 , maybe $130 on the high end. Still looking for the poster / lithograph and wooden box ? Any help Rhino? Toss me a bone Lol 9.8.73 - "Like a song that's born to soar the sky" 9.12.73 - "Looks Like Rain" ~ "Here Comes Sunshine" Rhino - Sugar Magnolia ~ 10.2.72 5.4.77 4.29.84
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Don't know why people complain about the mix on the releases. These are the same mixes of shows that have been available to us for years. Why don't you just go to archives and stream them before you buy them. Do people think the vault has different mixes than whats been out there for years? https://archive.org/details/gd1973-06-22.140897.sbd.pcm.composite.dalto… https://archive.org/details/gd1973-06-24.sbd.miller.99852.sbeok.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd73-06-26.sbd.cotsman.12076.sbeok.shnf https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-17.sbd.miller.89972.sbeok.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-19.sbd.miller.116983.flac16 https://archive.org/details/gd74-05-21.sbd.belkin.2597.sbefail.shnf
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Just been fleeced of £59.60 ($78) by UPS to take delivery in the UK despite having paid Us Postal Service handling up front. I am assuming, as with the last time this happened DeadNet will be refund us poor Europeans the outrageous cost. Dis-chuffed Brit.
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Just got hit for £50.69 so there isn't even any consistency to their thievery!
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This has nothing to do with shipping costs. Did you not know that most countries levy import duty on items above a certain (low) value? UPS do this quickly and efficiently so it does not appreciably delay delivery. Good luck with trying to get UK tax refunded by dead.net!
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My box set arrived this afternoon. Cost £50.69 to retrieve it from UPS. Sometimes you pay sometimes they just appear to ignore the tax. I pay when I have to and celebrate when I don’t.The box arrived in perfect condition and four weeks before I expected to see it based on previous orders. The discs look OK visually and I’ve played discs 1, 15 and 18 with no problems. A more thorough listen will have to wait until I get back from Egypt at the end of the month. Just as well it turned up today or who knows what might have happened to it. Always look forward to seeing what will turn up next.
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I was just reading comments on the LP release page. All I could think about the 'Side C" complaints was "you guys never heard the tapes before? WTF?".Buuuut I have noticed over the years here that there is a significant portion of the regular commenters who only experience Deadmusic through official releases. They either are internet-ignorant and aren't aware of LMA or the innumerable ways to D/L shows and/or they have never had any involvement with the classic 80s/90s Deadtape-sharing community. Thus, they make statements that leave those of us with much free-Dead experience shaking our heads. Some of these people seem to have entered this world via interest in the new GDM angles on Dead-music marketing: high-quality sound and limited editions. To us old-school Heads these people often sound like they belong somewhere else. But here they are, so just grin and bear it. GDM needs a thriving customer base to keep on selling us Deadproduct. These newbies may seem (to us) to be foolish with their complaints, but their purchases are helping to keep the golden eggs coming! Unless you have been listening to Deadshows for decades, the "warts and all" reality of the existing recordings must be pretty shocking. Most performers' releases are limited to the "just exactly perfect" material. So the ground rules of GDM's endeavor to release LOTS O' DEAD must take some getting used to! I do second your motion: People, if you worry about sound issues, audit the tapes via Live Music Archive or at least read the reviews there.
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