• 3,948 replies
    clayv
    Default Avatar
    Joined:

    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • hendrixfreak
    Joined:
    Does anyone know how to ...
    convert a jpg or pdf for posting here? You can PM me or make it public. I've got two pics from Playin', end of first set, 28 July 1973, and a pdf of a front page newspaper that will show the extent of the crowd and reveal how close I was. Stories in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    Thanks
    Great story and great pics. Monarda it is. Lear something new. We are having the weirdest summer ever. Lows in the mid 60's. Raining like crazy. What I save on the utility bill for a/c I spend in gas to mow the lawn.
  • dmcvt
    Joined:
    WG summer jam (long!)
    hendrixfreak, i can't wait any longer, looking forward to your stuff Wordy feels-like travelogue ahead, “bear” with me. Promise not to do it again. Editing this to 11.10.73 PITB> At the appointed hour… 45 years ago, right about now, about 200 miles west of here, near a racetrack, this music. (most interested to read others accounts… how much did I forget or make up…) Three of us took off from central Maine Thursday July 26 mid-day, old Volvo, scenic route across New Hampshire and Vermont.. It would be a ten hour plus run, never mind whatever we ran into on site, so we decided to split it in two, take time to stop and smell the roses, CKR. Anyone exploring central New Hampshire should enjoy the east-west Kancamagus Highway through the central White Mountains, long as your brakes are good. Figured to get there early Friday as we had an inkling things would get crazy, though we had purchased tickets. Two of us college boys ran the campus radio station, we had news off the AP wire and from friends it would likely bust out. Fan of The Dead for five years by then, but first my show came just four months earlier in Baltimore. Not old enough (parents forbid) Woodstock, largest event before Summer Jam was Concert For Bangladesh at MSG summer 1971. This would be big. We listened to cassettes on the way, especially various ABB and the original Europe 72. CDs would not appear for almost ten years. Don’t recall exactly where we camped out Thursday night, somewhere north of Saratoga Springs in the Adirondacks. Besides camping gear, we had a big cooler packed with home-made gazpacho, sandwiches & beer. As noted previously, the dark ages of beer, or maybe the age of dark beer… already snotty snobs about Bud Miller Coors, Ballantine IPA was barely drinkable, about the most exotic thing we could find being Carlsburg Elephant or Spaten Oktoberfest. Next morning we broke camp quickly, provisioned around Saratoga, made the run to the track asap. We were on schedule, goal was to be situated on site for lunch with enhancements. Like the antique cigarette tin box loaded with fine Columbian fatties (nickname of CKR/seeker). No trouble getting close late Friday morning, parked maybe a third mile away from entrance, spot selected for quick egress. Lots of people around, short lines getting in, plenty of room mid field, excitement and anticipation. Quite the scene walking in from parking to gate, many people just hanging out, vendors for about whatever you might want, setting up shop, free floating. Very relaxed, sunny and getting hot. No hustling to get inside. They were taking tickets at the gate, not yet declared free, things were organized. We strolled down towards the stage, past long rows of porta-potties and pallets stacked with gallon water jugs which early on defined the edges of what space they thought they needed. Hah! Most all the way down in front of the stage, we realized it was up in the air some 10-12 feet, we could not see half way back into mid stage. Eased our way back towards and just short of the sound tent on stilts… set our spot just right of dead center forward. Spent the rest of afternoon blissfully hanging out, wandering around, checking the scene, where you from, folks from all over, more and more people all the time. We had space for our small tent and room around it, we spread out a bit. Slowly but surely everything filled up around us, what that would mean later on. Many rumors circulated early afternoon as to some kind of music that night. Heard stories about the soundcheck being planned, or decided when they realized how many people were there, can’t tell other than there was a very high level of expectation, something would happen. They knew it too. Roadies messed around with stage stuff a lot, re- positioning and finishing touches on equipment, mikes tested, then they would vanish for a break back stage… amps were left on. Someone would play, at least a local/regional band. Time out for images… have seen a bunch of different stuff but found a collection on flikr by Grant Gouldon many of which were taken from very close to where we landed Friday. Like if he had turned a slightly different way, there we were. Thanks Grant. Will publish a link here because simple search will open it up anyway, hope this is OK https://www.flickr.com/photos/grantdabassman/sets/72157603224730871/ Somewhere along into early evening there was a flurry of activity… The Band came out and Robbie Robertson leaned into a mike, “do you mind if we tune up a little”. Roar approval, he seemed a bit goofy/tipsy. Started off with The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down. There was a confederate flag unfurled behind them, iirc. A slightly different world back then. They played for maybe 30 minutes, left the stage. People were breaking out their goodies, chowing down, biggest picnic I ever seen. Flow of inbound people looking for spots had just about stopped, didn’t seem to be much room anymore and moving around was a bit chaotic, a few clear paths. Little more time passed then ABB came out, they looked a little tenuous and played briefly, just a couple few songs iirc. If you don’t know iirc, it means I could be making all this up, but don’t think so. Didn’t seem to me that they played long, not for more than 25-30 minutes.They took off and then things went quiet for a while, people got up and moved around though we saw activity on stage, fingers crossed, they were dead roadies. Still plenty daylight, just starting to fade, almost 8 pm or so. The Dead came out to whistles and cheers, they began fiddling with their stuff. IIRC, vivid memory, Jerry walked right out to the front edge of the stage (precarious) and looked around for what seemed like several minutes scanning/surfing the crowd. Folks called out to him of course. He made eye contact with dozens and dozens of people, nodding his head, picking up the scene. Shook his head as he moved back as if to say, woah, just look at all these people out there. They launched into Promised Land, horrible thin audio. Took first part of that tune to dial it in, no Phil in the mix for a minute. By the time they hit Bird Song, everyone was up and dancing. To date, one of my all time favorite Bird Songs even if you had to be there. A great jazzy feel. My recollection was more better music as it got darker and darker. Two solid sets, they finished around 11 pm. The jam was clearly a special departure. We knew they were deep into it, Phil said a couple times, “remember this is just a soundcheck”. Or maybe there was an echo. We were in an afterglow somewhere way north of midnight. The aftermusic scene down front was wild enough to keep going for a while. About as perfect a day as imaginable for this music punk. Saturday was a let down for me after such a day… hate to say, you’ll see. By late morning our position was being overrun with a crush of humanity, we kept shrinking the footprint to no avail. Getting around anywhere about impossible, first time I ever felt a little claustrophobic… no fear, just no room to breathe… you about had to walk over or on top of many many people, relaxed but way crowded. Maybe the bourbon from the day before had gotten to me… We stuck around for the first dead set, however it became more obvious serious storms were headed that way. Great music, maybe not quite the equal to the previous night, we did not want to leave, but…. Plus it was hot, sun seriously beating down, dark roast, powering up the incoming front. Not like we would ever find another decent spot walking out of the sea of humanity. We could not believe the number of people. We had considered how much more we might endure, our provisions were ok to marginal, we just decided to get the heck out of there. Hard to believe perhaps but elbow to elbow going into bad weather and once it hit, felt we would be stuck among potentially tens of thousands seeking shelter, trying to leave or get back to their cars at the same time… spelling chaos. We headed out reluctantly and made it back to the car just as the first big fat raindrops fell… then held back briefly enough to think we were crazy to leave, before the total downpour. We sailed out easily, wipers on high. So grateful to have been there Friday. Sincere thanks to dead.net and archive.org for providing us with all this wonderful music and a place to discuss it.
  • dmcvt
    Joined:
    red budded? hhmmmmm
    so this time of year... Monarda? hummers here love Monarda ceptin' deer got much of it first... so very fragrant when leaves crushed, like a minty basil aromatic some of those cute fauna eat way too many things intended for food or visual pleasures i offer a free, all expenses paid trip via a havahart trap for chipmunks to the local state park
  • hendrixfreak
    Joined:
    Not even at Gitmo ...
    do they force 'em to listen to Justin Bieber! Okay, I'm making a liquor store run, then gonna do some ramblin' here. Back in a few.
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    The Wheel Is Turning
    I sit in my fun room looking out the window. Yes yes when the family migrated from Europe to found this country they cleared and blasted their way through the wilderness, practically hunting the pests into extinction. Now the pendulum has swung the other way with the environmentalists. As I stare out the window, wheels spinning in my head, I look out on this rejuvenated nature. Last year, a young red tailed hawk matured in the trees in my back yard. Now I am looking out at what looks like 10-12 youngins. Just 10 feet away, there is a baby rabbit gnawing on some clover. Little does the rabbit realize that in just a few months he will be lunch for one of these red tails. Precious! Also, have a few hummingbirds feasting on the nectar of some red budded plant. They are literally just 5 feet from me, if they only knew...
  • Gary Farseer
    Joined:
    Love it Love it
    When the warmth of my medicine kicks in. Mmmmm
  • bob t
    Joined:
    Keith Fan and Vault tapes
    I remember reading once that Bill K had listened to the 9/14/74 Munich show and being excited how well it sounded... around the time of the Winterland October 74 shows...
  • bob t
    Joined:
    Dave's arrived today
    Wasn't suppose to arrive until Monday!!!
  • simonrob
    Joined:
    Fake news...
    Hendrixfreak - guilty as charged. Sentence: 120 hours of continuous forced listening to Justin Bieber and Rick Astley. But seriously, I (and many others) wanna hear your stories.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

6 years 7 months

Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

user picture

Member for

8 years
Permalink

Why does everyone assume DR. Rhino is a HE????
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

This is my guess. Spoiler alert, he pops up towards the end of the video (at least I think it's him). ..but we will likely never know for sure. I guess it doesn't matter anyway.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

And that was by no means his first appearance. He has appeared in many Rhino promo videos. The facial hair (if real) tends to suggest 'he' rather than 'she' but you really need to see the naked truth to know for sure.
user picture

Member for

16 years 9 months
Permalink

my GSTL boxset is not the one shown in the video. Maybe they made a special packaging for Europe to avoid tax Duties? I must mention I never had any problem with Dr Rhino, but I give my compassion to the people that are now awaiting for replacement, and hope everything will be completed soon. If you are interested in Pacific NorthWest you may have a look at this page: http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/fp_groups/fp_nwc5.html
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

Last night while I was taking a shower I was listening to 6/26/73 and the song "You Ain't Woman Enough" came on. I pretended I was Donna and sang along word for word. Then I realized I had done the exact same thing the night before listening to 6/24/73. Now I am worried I may have gender confusion issues. Should I seek therapy? Thanks Doctor. Sincerely, OK With It I Guess In San Diego.
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

...and so ends your promising run for Senate. Too bad, I thought you had this one in the bag. On the bright side, at least it wasn't Money Money.
user picture

Member for

8 years
Permalink

I remember seeing that video. Perhaps trans gender. Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

14 years
Permalink

Thanks for the link, Crossroads!
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

11 years 1 month
Permalink

You don't get to sing with Elvis or at Muscle Shoals if you "can't sing." It's well known that Donna was often plagued with monitor issues, and a lot of the backlash against her is, in my opinion, rooted in the same kind of sexism that Beatles fans lob at Yoko. I don't always love Donna's screeching on PitB, but I've gotten used to it over the years and now when I play a post-79 show and the band plays PitB, I *kinda* miss her. Lastly: on her worst day, Donna's a better singer than Phil. Signed, A Donna apologist and Godchaux fanboy 4 life
user picture

Member for

8 years
Permalink

jimmyjack.... I agree wholeheartedly.
user picture

Member for

8 years
Permalink

@jimmyjack... I wholeheartedly agree with you. So much so that I posted it twice.
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

I agree with JimmyJack as well. There is some detail on her work with Muscle Shoals on Wikipedia. ________________________________________________________ Donna Jean Thatcher was born in Florence, Alabama. Prior to 1970, she had worked as a session singer[1] in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, eventually singing with a group called Southern Comfort and appearing as a backup singer on at least two #1 hit songs: "When a Man Loves a Woman" by Percy Sledge in 1966 and "Suspicious Minds" by Elvis Presley in 1969. Her vocals were featured on other classic recordings by Boz Scaggs and Duane Allman, Cher, Joe Tex, Neil Diamond and many others.[2][3] She then moved to California and met future fellow Grateful Dead member Keith Godchaux, whom she married in 1970.[4] ________________________________________________________ She is a known entity.. Vocals and harmonies were always a moving target with the GD, it's often not the compelling trait that draws me into their music. I guess I am gestaltist when it comes all things GD. The greatness of the whole outweighs the imperfections of any of the individuals. She has grown on me, I guess I have a section of my cerebrum that reprocesses and corrects any wails and off-tune harmonies and lets me focus on the gooey magic holding it all together (note, there are a few exceptions where only skip and fast forward seem to correct.. but who's counting). Edit: I didn't notice the sexism part, I don't agree with that. Many say the same about Phil, Brent, Vince and Bobby to a lesser extent. She is off key at times, but so are the rest. Anyway.. after ripping and repacking my portable devices with the new box I am off for what will surely be a joyous bike ride.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

jimmyjack, you had to "get used to it". That says a lot. She was okay in the studio as a session singer and should have stayed there. I stick to my guns - she sucked. I hate her vocals. Ugh. If I could, I'd mix her out of all the Dead concerts. I agree - PHil's voice sucks also. And thus he doesn't sing hardly ever. And it has nothing to do with sexism. That's ridiculous. Many women vocalists FAR surpass Donna and I think they are great.
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

Donna was at her best with the Jerry Band; maybe had to do with the smaller rooms they were playing, but she was great harmonizing with Jerry, and sometimes Maria Muldaur.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

She's ok sometimes. That's the best I can say about her.But I'm sorry, I just can't deal with her most of the time. Playing and also listen to Money Money from this box set. OMG! My ears, my ears! LOL
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

I hear ya.. but it's not fair to pick on Money Money. You have to give them a mulligan from time to time.. plus they dropped it after just two tries. You did crack me up though.. points for that.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

11 years 1 month
Permalink

Just to be clear: I wasn't accusing you of sexism! I was merely pointing out that women in bands--especially back then--were up against a lot and had to work twice as hard to prove themselves to dudes for whom a woman in the music business was more often than not viewed only as a "groupie." And I agree that talent transcends even these biases, and that's why Joni, Janis, etc take their rightful places in the hall of fame. As for Donna, I totally get that she isn't everyone's cup of tea, and tbh, in my personal rankings of Dead members she ranks pretty low. I merely wanted to mention that I don't think she's a bad singer (at all) and think she generally gets a bum rap.
user picture

Member for

6 years 8 months
Permalink

...go together like peanut butter and jam. When they're in the pocket on Looks Like Rain (say, 5/5/77), all is well.
user picture

Member for

9 years 5 months
Permalink

i used to have a setting on my audio workstation called "Donna Reduction" that was a Pop filter but manually applied to certain portions of Playing and Scarlet Begonias that was an 8 db volume cut to make her vocal more of an off mic exclamation than a cattle prod induced yelp into the microphone.i think Money Money was one of her better tunes, she really seems to be getting into it, without going into yelp mode. [from somewhere else on dead.net.] Money Money My baby gives me the finance blues Tax me to the limit of my revenues Here she come finger popping clickety click She says "furs or diamonds, you can take your pick" She wants money (what she wants) She wants money (what she wants) She wants money (what she wants) She wants money (what she wants) Money, money, money, money, money Money, money, money, money, money She says "Money, honey", I'd rob a bank I just load my gun and mosey down to the bank Knocking off my neighbourhood savings and loan To keep my sweet chiquita in eau de Cologne Mama, don't send me down to rob that bank again I got a notion you're leading me to sin Won't you relax, won't you lay way back Don't you bug your honey about no Cadillac It's only bucks, you don't need no jack So won't you please relax and lay way back My baby's loving gives me such a thrill It gives me inspiration making counterfeit bills Now some folks say the best things in life are free I sure don't get no loving living honestly Lord made a lady out of Adam's rib Next thing you know you got women's lib Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch It's a real shame they got to cost so much Recorded for "Mars Hotel" but only ever played live a few times before it was dropped. It was originally called "Finance Blues" - and that remains the title in Barlow's lyric collection. But it was retitled "Money Money" on the album.
user picture

Member for

7 years 3 months
Permalink

I agree with you on Donna to some extent. I think a lot of the older songs that they involve her in later in her tenure sounded better without her. Like St Stephen and Wharf Rat and Sunshine Daydream for example. The screams in Playing in the Band sound much better at a normal volume such as Europe 72, where she was mixed appropriately. Just wondering if that bothers you as well? And finally, I love her in certain songs like the Music Never Stopped, The Wheel, and Cassidy. When she belts out that line about greeting the morning air with song, I think she's just absolutely on fire and in the Dead zone. But if it's just her voice in general you don't like (when you say you wish she could be mixed out of all the shows), then I have some compassion for you, because I feel the same way about Brent. I hate to think a fellow Deadhead is not getting the full satisfaction of a great era because of a singer. FYI, she is not in the second set of Dave's Picks 18 from 1976, she is not on the Europe 72 show from April 16th, and she is not on most of the December 1973 shows. Also I would say her involvement in the Europe 72 shows is minimal, so those might be some good shows for you to pick up if you don't have them all.
user picture

Member for

9 years
Permalink

JGB 5-21-76 (Don’t Let Go CD) Donna sings great when she can hear herself.
user picture

Member for

14 years 11 months
Permalink

Pretty well documented that she often had trouble hearing herself sing in the earlier days, particularly during loud songs. And if you can't hear yourself, well, we all heard the results. The situation seemed to improve toward the end of her tenure. I'd wager she would have sounded consistently better if she'd had the benefit of the in-ear monitors of the 90s.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

7 years 8 months
Permalink

very good simonrob I thought the same thing after discovering 5 pnw cds with scratches , I had two cds sratched from the get shown the light box, I will always be back for more , but the packing of these cds has got to be questioned? after all these years you would think ? I don't know,the dead an rhino seem to always handle these issues very timely ,so we will see , and I just want to say thank you to all who put this raging box out, thanks dave , p.s a GREEK BOX would be Valhalla
user picture

Member for

8 years 9 months
Permalink

Any/all Donna Jean hate cannot stand. I can count on one hand where maybe subjectively she went a bit too far. My favorite version of "L.L. Rain" is a just exactly perfect Bobby/Donna '78 duet. She does a brilliant job with "Money, Money" all 3 times played on display here. In fact, the studio version pales. Donna brings a firey energy and feminine mystique. The Godchaux's brought unmistakable depth and magic to the GoGD experience. The loss of both in '79 was massive. The band had highs and had lows in the 80's, but was never quite the same as before. End of.
user picture

Member for

16 years 2 months
Permalink

I only saw the GD with the Godchauxs a hand-full of times. I thought she was very good at shows I saw. I grew to love Donna's voice, but yet later on and influenced by other people's mostly negative opinions, I became a "Donna-hater." But I was always "on-the-fence" with Donna - that is sometimes great, sometimes she's a screaming banshee. In this freshly released 6/22/73 rendition of Playing In The Band, I think her vocal contributions are different but great. I find it much easier NOT to bash Donna. I deeply appreciate her contributions to the music of the Grateful Dead.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

11 years 1 month
Permalink

Good call on the Brent thing. I'm a big fan of Brent, actually--I think he lit a necessary fire under Jerry, and I like what he brought to the Dead instrumentally and texturally--but I have never liked his vocals and *definitely* have never enjoyed his songs. So I get it. But I'd never want to "erase" him from any Dead show. Now, do I skip the occasional Brent song when the button is in reach? Yes, I do. But I've also been known to skip a "Little Red Rooster" or two...
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....pre hiatus. Tough. Post hiatus, golden roads.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

7 years 8 months
Permalink

7/3/66 , jiggle the handle, kingfish , nite cap pink Floyd ,peace and love
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

Happy Monday morning to me! #12213 just showed up down under. Currently looking for issues and ripping. So far so good. As everyone has already stated looks amazing and looking forward to my first listen!!
user picture

Member for

14 years
Permalink

I am a fan of Donna. I agree she missed the notes sometimes, we know about the difficulty hearing yourself on stage with those loud speakers. She was also very expressive, free and experimental (like the band) and it didn't always work (like the band). I'm listening to Seattle 73 as I write, and remembering plenty of shows where they could not harmonize well at all, and none of these guys had a good voice. They were at their worst trying to sing harmonies. Come on, Bobby has been a longtime notorious shrieker. They could play up a storm and captivate my attention musically with its beauty at a show, then stun me with their poor harmonies, You gotta admire their spirit, singing as best they could with such great songs. That was the GOGD, and I bought the whole enchilada. She is integrated into a lot of their songs. If you listen to all her contributions to all their songs, she is right there with them, trying to harmonize with their weak voices. And I don't have to mention songs she really shined, others have made good suggestions. I will also share that she added a wonderful yin yang balance when she was on stage with the boys. There was a positive balance and she added a great feminine energy to many songs. I am a fan of Donna. I love her energy. What a trip.
user picture

Member for

9 years 3 months
Permalink

Just ordered the Pacific Northwest Box set. I've always loved the Native American Art from PNW, and glad I'm now able to click the button. Looking forward to it from all the reviews. Yipee!
user picture

Member for

15 years
Permalink

I like the CD cases ... they look great on a shelf amid other Grateful Dead releases ... nice colors, etc ... CD's pop in and out, no worries about sliding discs over cardboard ... I didn't take a magnifying glass to the discs, just played them and had no issues. [I did have to return/replace a disc recently due to a scratch, Anthem of the Sun 10 22 67.] The music and sound are superb to my ears ... 6 22 73 really is a transcendent show, great to have it in such good quality. I would rank 6 26 73, 5 19 74, and 5 21 74 just below or right alongside 6 22 in terms of overall performance/greatness/enjoyability ... and 6 24 73 / 5 17 74 just slightly lower but still excellent, with superb moments. Overall spectacular release IMO ... and there's still a need for more 1973 especially ... 72 shows played in 1973, still just 20 or so releases give or take ... 1974, which I'd take more of as well, has about 20 releases out of only 40 shows played.
user picture

Member for

15 years 2 months
Permalink

I had good rational reasons for buying the 3CD set instead of this box.I have almost every 73 and 74 release ever from GDM. That is A LOT of 73/74. I do not need to give any more hours of my life to listening to 73/74 First Sets! I feel like the 73/74 Second Sets are stuffed with "First Set" songs, limiting the length of the big jam segments that I crave. I don't have interest in, or space for, big containers and books. It helps my family when I choose to spend $19 (Amazon) on myself instead of $190. So I got the 3CD. And it is FAAAAAAAANNNNNNTASTIC! This is a bunch of golden moments without the other moments that filled out the whole shows. And, against all logic, that makes me hungry for the rest! I just saw 6/22/73 and 5/19/74 from this box sold seperately on Ebay. I lingered over them, I drooled, I trembled. I got away... this time. I spent $600 so far on 30T shows. Of the 16 I "really want", I now have 14. The 75 and 79 shows will never be sold on Ebay at the prices I will happily pay. Sooner or later, I think I will pay prices for them that will make me unhappy! Having seen the advent of a "Music-Only" 30T box on sale, I will try hard to wait for this box to go "music-only". I will have to try VERY hard...
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Do you think dr.rhino will replace a digipack case for one the shows because the plastic teeth one one of the disc holders is broken. And I have some scuffed discs with skips. I’ll be emailing dr.rhino tomorrow.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

HelloI ve received the box but THE DISC 3 FROM Show #1 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73) .........IS MISSING!!!!!! I can t imagine that I m going to stay without it. I ve made a request and I just hope this problem will be resolved . JEAN PIERRE
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

It seems a given that Donna was very good singer-never mind Elvis Presley, you didn't get to be a session singer at Muscle Shoals if you were tone deaf. Also that she didn't sing so well with the Dead on stage. Especially during the golden years of 1972-1974. The reason given for her often off key singing is usually that she couldn't hear herself on stage. I wonder why this problem wasn't addressed at the time? For a band that recorded all its shows, and amended the sound constantly in search of aural nirvana-I wonder why no one thought to help Donna out -as well as listeners - and enable her to reach her full potential? Seems a bit of an oversight now. But one that is constantly brought to our attention.
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

I bought the box, but I just thought I would say that the reasons you give for buying the 3 cd set make perfect sense to me. The biggest weakness in the 3 cd set has to be the omission of Dark Star-far and away the highlight of the 1973 shows. I am half way through the first 1974 show, and, as someone said on here yesterday, this already seems a far stronger show than the three 73 shows preceding it.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Salut, Jean-Pierre ! I'm sure dead.net or Rhino will send you the missing disc if you signal them. I come for my part to pay 58 € of taxes, and yet I am not sure to receive my package as I will not be back from vacation before two weeks. I wonder if UPS can return a package to the shipper while import taxes have been paid?
user picture

Member for

16 years 1 month
Permalink

who do you have to notify about scratched/skipping discs? Do you have to return the faulty disc? the drama continues
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Was there nothing to be done about a near-complete vocal dropout from Sugaree through El Paso? That's four full songs in which to solve the problem, it seems something could have been done.. Or is this a defect issue and I should consult customer service? Also one of my discs arrived irreparably scuffed.. Otherwise loving the box!
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

This is a problem baked into the source master tapes, something remastering from the source two tracks simply cannot completely address. They are not a defect in the discs and any replacements provided will have the same issue. I find these comments from Archive.Org relevant: __________________________________________ Reviewer: c-freedom ***** - May 20, 2017 Subject: Mama told me,, Papa told me yeah, this is the good stuff.. Vocal drop-outs late 1st set- just listen to the jam. https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-19.sbd.fix.miller.107165.flac16/g… Charlie Miller had the following comments about pitch issues in the source tapes as well, something both he and Jeffrey Norman (+ the plangent process folks) did a good job of addressing. "-- The pitch was a mess, it's not exactly perfect but is a lot better" The original Dicks Picks were printed with a Caveat Emptor, usually on the back cover of the CD. I pulled this from Wikipedia: Caveat emptor Each volume of Dick's Picks has its own "caveat emptor" label, advising the listener of the sound quality of the recording. The one for Volume 22 reads: "Warning: This is not an audiophile recording! Many of you may have read the numerous Dick's Picks Caveat Emptors over the years and thought "Oh yeah... sure... whatever." Well, this old analog recording source exhibits many audio flaws including high distortion, low vocals, tape hiss, and missing pieces. No fair calling Customer Support and complaining! However, let it be known that this CD also includes some pretty damn exciting and historical music, and for that reason is brought to you with pride." __________________________________________ Hats off to the care that went into making these imperfect 45 year old masters sound as good as they possibly can. These shows, this release and the care that went into it speak to history.
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

Yeah, I dig - just in the past, they've patched in audience sources or some such to fill in those kinds of gaps - and especially as it's something that lasts over 4 songs, just kind of surprising that they didn't work some of their usually impressive wizardry.
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

Yea, that would have been an impressive fix. 74 is especially prone to source tape anomalies. Oh well.. such is life I guess.
user picture

Member for

16 years 8 months
Permalink

The box itself is cool although I would have been happy with something less extravagant and therefor less expensive and easier to store/display. I'm fortunate that I have furniture that can accommodate it's size (likewise the Europe 72 trunk) but I'm sure that's not the case for many. Hopefully the next large offering will take this issue into account. Enjoying the accompanying book and kudos to Nicholas G. Meriwether for using "champing at the bit" instead of chomping. Just a personal gripe of mine but appreciate that somebody finally got it right.For the music itself, the Vancouver '73 was always a favorite audience tape and this recording is a real treasure. It has a certain gentle aspect to it that envelopes you like a cozy blanket. Sounds a little silly but...what can I say? I'm lagging a bit on listening but I've checked out most of the Portland '73 show. To my ears the sound quality and performance is not as good as the Vancouver show and I'm a little surprised they chose this one for a vinyl pressing. In any case I'm real happy to have this collection and looking forward to the next big drop. Thanks for all the hard work.
product sku
081227931391
Product Magento URL
https://store.dead.net/pacific-northwest-73-74-the-complete-recordings-19-cd-boxed-set-1.html