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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    They say...
    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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You are probably right about most of your post.But one issue I'll never change my opinion about: the Dead were mediocre in the '80's and into the '90's (a great show was rare) and that is when their popularity soared.
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I'm almost through the first complete chronological listen. I'm up to the massive Seattle 74 Playin', scheduled for tonight's listen. Wonderful sound overall. On first listen the 73 Vancouver has a better mix than the other two 73's. The 74's sound better than the 73's. I chalk that up to their perfecting the Wall configuration(s) in 73. True also the first sets have many repeated songs, but they are played so well! Every show has really strong jazzy jams that were the hallmark of 73-74. Most of the shows have a strong Bobby presence, which I really love. I love to hear the awesome wierd imaginative chords he plays. However, I'm listening to Seattle 74, and he seems lost in the mix, kinda there, but not prominent. Funny thing happened on the way home with my box. My box was delivered to work. I was on the train coming home with the box on my lap, and a guy sitting across from me was eyeing the box and said: "Pardon me, is that a box of smoked salmon?"
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compared to any other live shows in the 80s there were few bands worth seeing more than once a tour as most popular bands played the same exact show every night for the whole tour. now most of the SBD recordings of that time are flawed and because of the nature of the mix the flaws become accentuated, but a good AUD allows you to hear what the people in the concert heard and it is not as bad as the SBD tapes make it seem.
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I saw the dead regularly in the 70's 80's and 90's right to the end in '95, and they were rarely mediocre. I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's. But musically show after show, run after run, they were guaranteed to be the funnest, best shows in town, over and over again. All those shows I attended people everywhere around me were bopping, dancing, swirling around if there was room. Clearly people enjoying the music. They grew and grew in popularity due to their allowing tape recording of their shows, massive tape trading, and a reputation for great shows. Then along came MTV's "Day of the Dead", and "In The Dark" with their radio hit "Touch of Grey", and that bumped their attendance up a lot. Some would say too much, as they began losing some of their coolest venues. That is the true downside of their growing popularity, the parking lot scene got way out of hand, and even when the show was happening inside, there was a huge group of folks outside who just came for the parking lot party. Mediocre? Hardly.
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A rare person will agree with me, so let's just say to each their own."bopping, dancing, swirling"...so what? It's easy to dance to any music with a beat. I listen INTENTLY to every note of the music - Jerry's guitar and how the band interacts musically. Not just the "funnestness" of it! LOL! Is that a word? Compared to their earlier music, they were truly mediocre in the later years. I compare them to their own best music, not to what else is out there at the time. It would not be hard to beat what was happening musically in those later years, but they could not compare to what they themselves did earlier. And by the way, MTV destroyed music. When they came onto to scene, music became showmanship and true music was lost. "I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's" Yeah, he was dead.
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First of all, I completely respect your opinion. At the shows, I also listened intently to all the players, how they interacted, and especially Jerry's solo's and his singing. I surrounded myself on the floor with 20 friends who were all silently listening and enjoying song after song. The band continually changed, adding new songs, changing older ones, reworking their sound, and the 80's versions of the band were different than the 70's and 60's, and clearly not your cup of tea. I respect that. Perhaps they were still musically interesting to the careful listener, like myself, even in the 80's and 90's. I appreciated all the versions, and listened to each one.
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To me the Dead were all about the free form, experimental, jam music.At one time Garcia was the greatest improvisational guitarist. He just couldn't keep that up as the years went by and he got caught up in hard drugs, due to keeping the Dead going. Some people like the "songs". They are okay as filler to me, but it's his jams that I wanted to hear. Even the jams later on became kind of rote. I'm all into things like disk 2 of Dick's Pick's #8, to give you the best example. That is the greatest Dead ever, and they never lived up to that again. As I've said before, I wished they had quit after 1977 and Jerry could do solo stuff and maybe lived longer. He died trying to keep the Dead machine alive because he was employing too many friends and didn't want to quit on them. Anyway, I'll stop. To each their own.
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I dig '80' Dead, it's just another chapter in the book. Things can change with age and still be good. For example, I find that the ageing of Jerry's voice makes some of the later era versions of Black Peter just that much more poignant, and some of the '80-'90's drums-space sequences were awesome vehicles for some improvisational jamming and wicked transitions from space into whatever came next. And yes, relatively speaking, the Dead were the best game in town in the '80's, a decade in which there seemed little to excite me musically. As far as the parking lot scene, I dug that too - who doesn't like a big, mellow, party before a show? There did seem to be a little more of a frenzy about the scene later, but I attribute that to the increasing difficulty in getting tickets due to the increase in demand, and perhaps a lack of discretion amongst some of the eager partier's in the parking lot. Really the only show that I left disappointed was a '94 show at the Meadowlands in NJ, that one I left bummed. On another note, deadnet can't seem to decide if I'm a robot or not - took me like 3 tries to get that captcha to work.
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..on 5/21/74-every minute justified. I wondered, with all the talk of its signifying length, whether that would be its main recommendation. But its not-a fantastic jam is a fantastic jam, whether its 6 minutes or 46 minutes. I wasn't that aware of individual instruments during this jam-just the amazing wash of sound-but as soon as US Blues fires up, I find myself listening to Keith again-so maybe he doesn't feature so much on Playin'. After all that-now 10/26/89 from 30 Trips is playing. Possible the first time I have listened to an 1989 show this year-way out of my comfort zone. But it sounds pretty good. Nice contrast to the epics in the box-yin and yang and all that. Short first set, too-its just ended.
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Wow, Harpur College 5/2/70 - the radio broadcast was the show I played over and over in summer 1972 and convinced me this was a cool band I wanted to see again. I loved the entire electric sets.
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So Harpur College is the best show of all time? Well to each his own.Stopping after 1977 as well? No '85? So The Europe'72 tour was all just a waste of time and money. And speakin' of great boxed sets that's the one. 9/21/72,9/17/72,9/27/72, 6/10/73,3/24/73,3/15/73,3/16/73 none of this is worth it to you? As far as '74 nothing there either? Nothing in '76 or '77 Huh? And nothing at all in the '80's? I will say after Brent passed that was the end of The Grateful Dead.The '90's were horrific. Harpur college was a great show no doubt about it,but the BEST,nah. But that's just me.
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Harpur College, 1970.That concert was so amazing, Garcia was completely beside himself. I loved my bootleg so much that I tried to convince Dick a number of times to choose that concert for the next Dick's Picks. And he did! I got a letter acknowledging my input. Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One. Nothing better than that version. Hands down. By the way, don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything else was a waste. Not as good, but not a waste. At least not until after 1977.
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anyway, 5/17/74 strong show 5/19/74 potent show 5/21/74 first set is tasty interesting thing: listening to disc three of 5/19/74. After Saturday Night it went to start of disc (Truckin'). "huh? oh well. complete recordings must not have included the encore" I look at packaging and see US Blues. I put disc back in go to track 6 and there is US Blues. WOW.
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there used to be a coffee shop in Seattle called Sir Real EspressoThursday nights were GD nights many good times the proprietor always wore a Ringling Bros/Barnum & Bailey hat he played 5/19/74 at least 5 times over the 3 years of that one night he moved by trippily right as the Truckin' Jam went into NFA a treasured memory
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....is a segue for the ages. But the best part, the BEST part is the segue from NFA into GDTRFB. And better than that, is how they end the GDTRFB. That whole sequence will never get old. Disc 16 is pure gold. And sounds amazeballs....I'm gonna put in on again right now in fact.
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It was my favourite show for years and years, from when I first heard it on a tape, round about 1988. Now, it seems like something of a final peak of the psychedelic years, before they concentrated more on songs and perfecting the more country based material. They seemed to start doing this during the second half of 1969, shorter songs interspersed with the jams-and this carried on during 1970. Binghampton seems like something of a final blow out for one particular version of the band. And although I think of it as a peak-I can't think of another show that is really like it. Its a killer alright. Incidentally-its a topic that has cropped up before-but I wouldn't say Jerry died because of trying to keep the band together. He died because he made poor health choices. Whether this was due to trying to keep the band together or not is open to conjecture. No one thing leads to us becoming addicts or to making poor lifestyle choices.
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I have noticed that quite few people who used to post on here no longer do so. Maybe they failed the "I am not a robot " test.
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In the never ending debate about the "best" era of Dead, I think it is fair to say to each his own. But I would push back strongly on the idea that post Keith & Donna Dead was mediocre. It certainly was MUCH better than that. Now, there were certainly some low points ('83, '84, '86, and the last couple of years in the '90s for certain). Even then, there was some spectacular moments (Unbroken, etc). I think the Songs vs. Jams camp is easier to see. Jams camp is gonna say '69 is tops. No later than '74. Songs camp will say later. Bobby thinks '89-'90 was tops for many the songs, and I tend to agree with him on a lot of tunes. Certainly, there was much better variety in the 80's with less repetition. Maybe lost some jamming, but anyone who listens to the Hornsby era and says no interesting jams is not paying attention. Ditto late Brent. I will say that the quality of the mixes declined a lot in the 80's. That is no in dispute. Get a good AUD tape (or a matrix) and you are better off than with a SDBD.
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As I mentioned earlier, having paid UPS a ransom to get them to release my box, I subsequently received an invoice from them for the same amount in the post. Amongst other things it said that this amount should be paid immediately and threatened sanctions and surcharges if I failed to do so. Today I called UPS customer service to hear what they had to say about it. It only took 12 minutes on hold to get through to a human. The friendly woman on the other end of the line was quite happy to explain that I had indeed already paid and didn't have to pay a second time and that the invoice was purely for my personal bookkeeping. She also added that the wording on the invoice is "confusing". Right. Why send an invoice when a receipt would have been somewhat more appropriate?
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What a trip.. My guess is if we ever got to the bottom of it, the letter was generated by an eager, yet ill equipped person trying to work their up at UPS International, most certainly having the title Financial Analyst II. Their resume now reads, "Targeted and developed outreach program that identified for collection €13M from Import Duty avoiding hippies." Hopefully by the year they will reach their lifetime ambition of being a Financial Analyst III. We can only hope... ________________ Did someone mention Dicks Picks 8, Harpur College? Yes.. a worthy a show, incredible. I'd imagine it periodically floats to the top on lots of peoples favorite show list. It's currently half-played on my phone (which I use in my truck).. currently on pause in the middle of It's A Mans, Mans, Mans World. .but it wouldn't mean nothing, nothing, ..without a woman or a girl. Love that tune.. love that show. Explosive.
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could it be a faulty translation from US english to EU english?
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After paying $ 63.98 for shippimg and handling when ordering, I had to drive two hours to the next UPS depot and pay about $ 70 for tax and UPS fees to get my salmon box. That's really a lot, I think, for even this box. (And by the way: Though liking 73 and 74 a lot, but so many songs without vocals is no fun at all. Sorry.)So to those in command: please, please, please no UPS morning glory delivery no more, please never ever! Nevertheless looking forward to the next Dave's Picks, the 2019 subscription and the next 2019er big box.
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..sort of. If you need a break from the box and want to try something different, this show's unique (oxymoron I know... but). It's a Charlie Miller, relatively recently seeded show (less than two years ago). There are two unknown guests sitting in, a sax player and a fiddle player. Listening to the interplay on Dark Star, they seem to have a deep understanding of the music. We wouldn't hear noises like this on Dark Star until the midi days 20 years later. As an added bonus, the sound is quite good for the era - definitely release worthy. David Gans brought it up on The Golden Road yesterday which piqued my interest. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-08-03.137365.sbd.miller.eaton.flac24… 08/03/69 Family Dog at The Great Highway - San Francisco, CA Set 1: Hard To Handle Beat It On Down The Line Hi Heeled Sneakers High Time Mama Tried Dark Star Alligator Drums Alligator Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) And We Bid You Goodnight ok.. back to our regularly scheduled 1973 and 1974 flavored programming.
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Indeed there are sometimes enormous differences between US English and EU English but no, this invoice was entirely in the Dutch language. It is apparent to me that something went catastrophically wrong during the development of the Dutch language, making it nigh on impossible to express things as one would like to. Even most Dutch people seem to have great difficulties with it. The grammar is mostly impossible for mere mortals to master. Hey, didja see that I slipped in a cool bit of alliteration there? And on a Monday, too.
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Which are, of course, Purple, Priest, and priorities. Saw Purple and Priest last night with some band called, The Temperance Movement. Amazing, amazing singer like a young, snarly Chris Robinson. Decent band, could use better songs. Next was Priest. I say they are tighter without tired, old-ass Glenn Tipton. Richie Faulkner is a metal god. At 67, Rob Halford has lost absolutely nothing, and he stands as the finest metal singer of all-time. There is absolutely no arguing that point. At 73, Deep Purple's Ian Gillan has lost much of the power he commanded right on through the 1980s. He was a shrieker for the ages. However, he uses what voice he has left wisely and he delivered a fine performance. People say his voice is shot, well, no, that would be Ian Anderson and Don Dokken. I now accept Steve Morse into the band. The only knock being, he isn't Ritchie Blackmore. Ritchie can't play his way out a wet paper bag these days. He's even more faded than Ian Gillan. It has to be said, Ian Paice remains a monster. My God, how he still flies around the top of that Paiste kit is a thing to behold. Oh yeah, last, priorities: if your priority is to avoid endless postal/shipping hassles on official Dead releases, move to the United States.
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Excellent Book, much better than the movie, though I like the grundgy movie and Daryl Hannah is hot as Pris and Rutger Hauer was an awesome villian... LedHed, never heard of the 3P's - Back in my college concert production days we used 7 P's: Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance Sorry to hear that you get to experience the "Stamp Tax". As the Bostonian in me that drives by the site of the Boston Massacre, the snarkiness in me says "payback' a bitch" - but only in jest... As KG pointed out, maybe worthy to get the digital medium. Just like last night's Family Guy, I am kidding, it's only a joke ;) I see the point of all people's comments (opinions/personal preferences) regarding era's, song evolution, jamming. I'm from the camp that wants the "creme de la creme" put out there regardless of era. I want the best recordings of the best shows no matter the lineup. I trust Dave in his deadication to putting out what's worthy while dealing with all the variables & requests he has to juggle while working a business model that will continue for years on end while letting some very worthy shows see the light of day. I forgot who mentioned the point of the Dead retiring after 1977. My Favorite JGB era is 1978 - I love Donna and Maria singing with Jerry. I wish more releases would see the light of day from that tour. The Capitol show someone mentioned a few years back was awesome. Seems like they're more into the artwork releases. I'd be psyched if they'd do another Pure Jerry run (re-release) so I could fill in the blanks of the shows I passed on at the time... I would love each and every show was given the plangent treatment. Still loving the new release but still stuck on repeat on the early shows, which is not a bad thing ;) Anyone make it to the hidden vault to get the golden key?
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What's with all the international shipping cost gripe posts? Is anyone really surprised that it costs an arm and a leg to ship one of these things around the globe and none of these transactions are ever executed smoothly? Haven't you people read any Kafka? I'm willing to debate more topics than most on this board, but the peccadilloes of shipping firms international tax and fee policies is where I draw the line. Good day sirs.
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I'm gonna be broke this coming November...what with Nov 2nd being the release of the More Blood More Tracks box set by Dylan and on Nov 9th both the Electric Ladyland and White Album box sets will be released and of course next year's subscription payment will be due....this is why I can't retire yet!
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I just don't think people should come here to tell what to listen to how to listen. Music is an art form and is subjective. You like what you like let others like what they like don't come here to blast people.
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I have the same issue with 5/19/74 and assumed it was just the source tape, but someone has posted in the latest "jam of the week" that the digital copies don't have that dropout. I have an email in to customer service about it. Have you found anything else out? Regards, Yusef
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I am interested to know exactly what Kafka had to say about international shipping costs. As for the gripe posts, as far as I am aware, domestic customers have the options of standard or expedited shipping whereas us aliens have no choice. Normally international shipping is by USPS, the cost is reasonable and the shipping time is 2-3 weeks (depends on where on the planet one lives, naturally). Fortunately, these transactions are normally executed smoothly. Occasionally, for reasons best known to themselves, the powers that be choose to use someone like UPS. This results in a far shorter shipping time which most on here have praised, but the downside is that that shipping costs are much higher which nobody is happy about. However, everyone who ordered this box was prepared to pay that. The complaints posted on here have mostly been related to the inconsistencies regarding the level of duty levied by UPS in the United Kingdom and other ineptitudes in the UPS system. We also often see complaints from domestic customers on here who whine that there delivery has taken what for them is an illogical route and is going to take one day longer than expected. This is the age of instant gratification and if people do not get exactly what they want at the exact moment that they want it and for the price they want to pay, they will complain. That is the nature of the 21st century beast unfortunately. Toodle pip!
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It must be from the R Crumb edition.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducing_Kafka domestic buyers had the preorder choices of regular or expedited, but preorders all ship at the same time so it's a waste of money to expedite a preorder. until the boxes are officially on sale they are willing to take the added fees from people willing to give it to them on the preorder to make sure it's working as an option on the page when it moves from preorder to on sale. if there hadn't been a monday holiday, i would have gotten my standard delivery on the day of sale, instead i got it a day later on saturday, which is usually an added cost delivery option. those VAT taxes, added taxes on the COD shipping fees and usury charges definitely make the digital option a more economic choice.
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Your comments would only be credible would be if you yourself paid higher international shipping costs than others in your country. maybe you have been reading the wrong Kafka.
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If we're talking Robert Crumb, then I'll take Honeybunch Kaminski over Kafka any day of the week!
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My disc 5 starts skipping at China Cat. There is a visible scratch. I contacted Dr. Rhino last Monday and received an email on Thursday that a replacement disc would be sent out ASAP. It seems like the condition of the discs in these box set releases are getting worse and worse. The majority of my discs had fingerprints and small superficial scratches on them but luckily only one disc skipped.
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Does anyone know if the Eyes of the World from the Long Strange Trip release was remastered? It would be cool if there's a sound Improvement over the Dick's Picks 31 release.
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Which songs have low vocals on CD but not digital download?
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YIKES. Donna gets a little feisty here. Was jamming to the first Scarlet Begonias I've heard from this set and suddenly I get assaulted. She has her ups and downs.
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I know that no Dead recording is perfect, but the Pacific Northwest seems to struggle the most in terms of recording quality. Numerous cuts have the vocals almost complete absent. Others have the guitar almost inaudible while the piano and drums are out front. Like I said, no Dead recording is perfect, but this seems to be the most inconsistent box set I remember; and I have them ALL. Anyone else feel this way, or am I just being too picky?
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She howls on that one like she sat on the remote control with no panties on. WhoaaaaAAAAHAHHAHOWWWWW@! I love her. I believe the people who saw them and said she wasn't loud like that on the house mix. Jerry wouldn't have tolerated it. Ned, guitar's low on the 73 shows. Some of it's still great, like the big Truckin and the Bird Song.oh well, what can you do. Better than nothin I guess. But the 74 stuff is hands down awesomeness with a bong hit on top. Theres a couple tracks where the vocals disappear, but it's like hearing an instrumental of Jack Straw. You're definitely not nitpickingbon the 73 shows though, that's a little disappointing in places to have Jerry so low.
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....Skull & Roses was released 47 years ago today. And no Donna for those that don't enjoy an occasional nail on the chalkboard.
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The official GD calendar is not quite perfect. It was released on October 24th.
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....hint to the general public. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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Skippys Andoaragain has just arrived. It looks and sounds amazing, 3 cds, great liner notes, re-release of the year?Yep.
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I have loved Oar for 45 years, only now listening through the outakes I realise that in an alternate reality, Oar would have been a fine starting point for another record;: Workingmans Grape?
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When should we expect a new Dave's Picks? Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
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November right before they announce the 2019 subscriptions. hopefully the announcement will include a new addition to the series of "Now with Plangent processing" or maybe announce a 2nd subscription series. Däve's Choice Cuts, the new Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series. THANKs for the reminder Dogon. Andoaragain is still a preorder in the US, but i'll have it on friday the day of release.
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Its a pity, what with all these vocal fade outs that Donna never seems to get faded out. Very strident throughout-she really comes in strongly at the end of Playin' on 5/21. Maybe they could have faded her out a bit and pretended it was a problem with the original mix (only joking). I've just been listening to 5/19/77, and she sounds fine on that. Shame. I don't think Bob is at his best vocally on these sets, either. A bit shouty-none of the warmth and depth he had in 1971, for example. Still a great release, though.
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I'm probably the only person on here who doesn't know this, but where do the bonus tracks at the end of the second cd come from ? Wharf Rat and Around and Around are presumably from the night before-but Not Fade Away? There doesn't seem to be any info in the box saying where they are from. This isn't a release I have played very often - something of an oversight, it now seems.
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