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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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July 27, 2018 - 7:15pm

#2201

Vguy72

Joined:
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Hold on hendrixfreak....

....I need to make some more popcorn and mescaline.
July 27, 2018 - 7:04pm

#2202

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Noon-ish is not the best time to catch a full-blown show.....

My memory has clearly telescoped events, because I almost think I remember rolling over in my sleeping bag and, for breakfast, snorting a pile of 'chocolate' mescaline off one of those mini-cereal boxes. I definitely took some blotter. But even if we'd 'slept in,' it must of been 10-ish or something. Surely we'd had some water and a snack, probably provided by a merciful neighbor. We were still 15 and we looked like what we were: goddamm-near children! Ah, so I was saying, we dropped acid and snorted mescaline and fired up the pipe with Numero Uno and, hey, is that freakin' Jerry on stage? Wait, Bobby. Phil. Bill. The piano guy. Jer kept dipping his cigarette into a brass ashtray and, when he re-lit it, it flared up. I didn't hit the blow til '75 but later, I thought, freebase. I hope someone can clarify this, but I think I recall the band starting just a bit after NOON(!). As far as I was concerned at the time, they fucking rocked the place for hours. I do recall, as I often feel, feeling goofy about a camera while tripping. But I managed to snap off three shots, of which two survive, which catch the three guitarists blasting away on Playing in the Band, then turning towards each other to converse more intimately, finally arriving in a tight circle and sending tides of sound across the crowd. I think this was the time I experienced Phil's bass as physical, purple pulses in my chest and the realization that vibrations, rather than corporeal reality, were at the heart of existence. I clearly remember the gospel treatment at the end of He's Gone and at the end of Sugar Mag, Weir thrust his arm skyward for stop time, ran back to his amps, downed the rest of a Heineken and raced back to the mic for the coda. Still, I was 15, down front at one of the biggest gatherings of humans in history. I did look back over the crowd, but, as usual, there wasn't much profit in looking back. Not with the Grateful Dead killing it in front of me.
July 27, 2018 - 6:44pm

#2203

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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The Soundcheck

The Allmans rocked big time. They'd slayed us at RFK after the Dead when, exhausted and dehydrated, we had retreated to the shaded overhang of RFK and been simply psychedelically rolled over by the ABB. They smoked the Dead that day. Back to the Soundcheck. I got up and hiked around the scene while it was still afternoon. A very loose scene with lots of elbow room, cool air, breathing. I returned to our space, easily located, for The Band. It was nearly sunset when the Grateful Dead took the stage. We had all the room we needed. I started the soundcheck boogie-ing upright, shakin it to the rock 'n roll. I had snorted some mescaline and taken maybe a half tab of the blotter. Everyone knew this was unprecedented in GD history. Here we were, groovin' on a cool pine forest evening, high but not pressed and our favorite band was blasting away on the finest sound system we'd ever heard. I do not recall individual songs, just the transition between comprehensible songs and jams that had us smiling for reasons we knew not. [Beautiful Jam from So Many Roads is blasting in the background as I write these words.] I do clearly recall the feeling of complete ease as I nestled down into my sleeping bag, head on cool gallon jug, looking up at the band just jamming away. We rode it out after the band departed and the next thing we knew, it was morning and the crowd was bustling, hustling, and by noon it was show time all over again.
July 27, 2018 - 6:39pm

#2204

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Hendrixfreak

I hope you are writing these in a word processing program and saving them.You probably should combine your memories and pictures and put it out on the internets where it will hopefully be forever preserved. Maybe upload the final version to the archive someday.
July 27, 2018 - 6:32pm

#2205

Trainwrecked

Joined:
February 4, 2018

5/9/77

Any headphone listeners out there? Or maybe you don't need them. I find the bass on this GSTL recording overwhelming. Bertha and Help On the Way are good places to start. I don't get the same thing with the SB I have if this show. I think Jeff Norman boosted it somehow. Anyone else notice it? Garyfarseer - what kind of medicine?
July 27, 2018 - 6:29pm

#2206

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

The greatest missed show on Earth

Long story shrunk to size... We had to get home on 10 June 1973 because we were exhausted, dehydrated, broke, without tickets, food, water, anything, so we thumbed back and tried to blend into humanity. I was 15. I lived with my parents, of course, and they needed to see some evidence that I was alive. They never even said a word about my setting out for a multi=day excursion in jeans and a t-shirt. We just did it. We heard the 10 June show was smokin' and we were pissed. We were NOT going to be caught short like that again. No effin' way. So when the news broke of a show with all three of the greatest rock bands of that time -- the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers and The Band -- we were on it like white on rice. Tickets cost $10.50? We had 'em. And we'd just seen the Allmans at Madison Square Garden in, May? I smuggled in a bong. A young cop caught me. An older cop said, "Let him go. It's a bong. Don't worry about it." Jesus, this whole law enforcement thing was confusing! But my view was broadening... Late July 1973. The older brother of a hot schoolmate of ours was driving to Watkins Glen. We signed on. Me, Mark L, David W, and a few others. We brought our backpacks. We had a little food. A shit-ton of Numero Uno. No alcohol. I had a sheet of blotter. Someone's adept use of the map enabled us to skirt around the worst of the traffic and we actually accessed the grounds in fine fashion, probably 12 hrs ahead of the hoo-ska-boo that eventually developed. The van's inhabitants split into units and we never saw our driver-host again, until a week later, just before the 31 July - 1 August shows back at Roosevelt Stadium. (Biggies, waiting for release...) So we hike over to the "gate," passing food trucks that specialized in big scoops of weed. We snickered, fully equipped. We were still 15. We entered the gates around midday and for some reason no one took my ticket, so I immediately doubled back to the chain link fence and passed my whole ticket to a have-not. Instinct, communal instinct. Later, my parents said that friends of theirs in Europe had seen footage that included my entrance into the concert site. The stage was perhaps 2/3 of a mile away. As we walked down the gently sloping hill towards the stage it was obvious we were a bit early. In earlier shows we were leery of getting too close because of the physical crush, the volume and the collective high that sometimes ... got a bit hairy. But fresh off missing 10 June, we marched down and claimed a beautiful space about 20 yards from the stage, just a bit left of center. On our way, we'd grabbed a few one-gallon water jugs that were set out free by Bill Graham in response to the scene at RFK in DC 6 weeks earlier. I found myself high on mescaline, laying on my sleeping bag with my head resting on a cool one-gallon jug of potable water and passing a doobie when the crowd sputtered and roared. It was late afternoon and the Allman Brothers had just taken the stage.
July 27, 2018 - 6:06pm

#2207

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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RFK, June 1973

Throughout the fall of 1972 and through the winter-spring of 1973 I had ingested numerous psychedelics, including the wonderful agent known as mescaline and naturally a few substantial doses of the Lady Herself. At one point, with my buddy Moose, we were sitting atop a van-sized boulder in a 2,000 acre wooded preserve near home and we focused on the visual margin between the rock beneath us and the ground in the background and felt that we had lifted the boulder upon which we sat perhaps several inches into the air, then lowered it again to its natural resting place. But I digress... June 1973 and me and David W are hitching to RFK in DC about 200 miles away for the 9-10 June 1973 shows. It's summer. So obviously we go in t-shirts, jeans, sneakers, with a ticket and few single dollars/dead presidents in my pocket. Next to the sheet of oval 4-way blotter. A little smokum in the sock, in case we got stopped. Look, we're 15, okay? 16 was months away. We were just up for adventure, loud rock 'n roll and, um, a closer look at the scene. I remember that some of the serious traveling hippies with LSD-dead eyes were there selling pipes, but also passing them around. We had long hair but we were little kids! These folks looked 50 but were probably 20, i.e., impossibly old, grizzled and of unknown origin. But no one actually bothered us, nor was there any attention. Everyone treated us as adults. So we slept on the ground on the grassy parts outside the stadium that night. No water, no food, no equipment. The next day, temperatures climbed towards 100. We were smoking a joint by the grate that blocked one entrance and a black cop motioned us over. We approached cautiously. "Hand me some of that, will you?" he asked. "WHAAAT???" was our initial reaction, having already experienced the pleasure of being cuffed and harassed by the cops for having a beer in the park. Turned out, cops can be cool, too. We burned two with the cat and we bid each other a good day. He was clearly amused by the scene, but in a groovy way. This was 1973 and racism and violence over the Vietnam War made longhairs outcasts, just like minorities of every stripe, then and now. Short story long, me and David split a 4-way and the Dead played that afternoon, opening for the ABB that night. The lines for water were long. We survived on The Lady, a little water and some "Numero Uno" substance we thought was hash but turned out to be opium. Worked for us that day, though, the heat was excruciating and I'm sure a lot of folks needed help in the heat. I got up close for Chinacat at the end of the first set. I was mesmerized. Bobby played a Gibson SG, which in my mind meant "bass guitar." Phil was playing a big possibly semi-hollowbody bass that said to my untutored eyes, "rhythm guitar." But I was already a huge Phil fan (being a Jer fan was too obvious) and this had me confused. At some point some idiot hurled a lit M-80 onto the stage (June 9, right? obviously in close proximity to July 4??) and it rolled up to Jer. In that day, he had a stage mannerism of sort of shuffling in place and I saw him move his right foot forward in perfect time and using the tip of his cowboy boot sent the live M-80 back out over the crowd. I don't even recall hearing it explode. The music was pretty loud.
July 27, 2018 - 5:47pm

#2208

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Nice warmup HF

Patiently waiting for the grand finale....
July 27, 2018 - 5:39pm

#2209

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Backstory and launch....

The briefest of backstories: Six years old in 1964, persuaded my mom to buy me a Beatles LP at the checkout counter of the local discount store. Played it on monaural phonograph with one 12" speaker output. Rocked as child. 13 years old in 1970, convince mom to drive me and a friend to a Chambers Bros concert. We dug the music but were too young for 'action.' 15 years old, summer of '72, catch The Byrds and New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble at college outside Saugerties NY where The Band rec'd Big Pink five years earlier. We drove by Big Pink. (Still Pink.) We were 15. (An older brother was actually driving...) Since 1971, been spinning American Beauty and Skull & Roses LPs on the same phonograph as in 1964, only now it's in the basement where our ping-pong table and hang-out couch are located. 19 Sept 1972, I jump in a car full of older heads with an ounce of hash in my pocket, 33 days after my 15th birthday, and we proceed to the Roosevelt Stadium in lovely Jersey City, New Jersey, and catch my first Grateful Dead show. I had already been 'experienced,' but did not drop at this show; too chaotic, large crowd, determined to survive and catch my ride home. I listened for familiar songs, jams, anything -- nothing! Everything was different. Records, shme-cords. This scene was crazy. Maybe 10,000 people screamin' high groovin', freakin', dancin', gyratin', handing you things you knew best to pass along... I was alone in the giant crowd with the music louder but sweeter than anything I'd ever heard before. The music rocked, I just couldn't grab onto a big Jerry jabbin' guitar riff that would remind me of Skull & Roses. Obviously, this was no American Beauty. As Jer once said, recording in a studio is like building a ship in a bottle. Playing live is like being on the ocean in an open rowboat. And that's kinda how I felt -- out there, surfin', knew I'd have to get home ... 3 hours into the show, I do remember saying to myself, "Well, all righty then, damn good show, YOU CAN STOP PLAYING ANYTIME, I'M GOOD. GOTTA GET SOME REST... MUST SNAG RIDE HOME..." Part II, coming ...
July 27, 2018 - 5:31pm

#2210

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Thanks dmcvt

The photos of the stage show how high it was. Need safety railings to keep the musicians from falling off.

John Perry Barlow

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

10/11/77

Recorded live at the Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA on May 19, 1977 and at the Lakeland Civic Center Arena, Lakeland, FL on May 21, 1977 • Hidden tracks on discs 2 and 5 recorded live at Norman, OK on October 11, 1977

Dick's 29

This has been one of my favorite releases and regular plays every since it first came out. Both of these shows (5/19/77 & 5/21/77) sizzle. And the bonus tracks are the proverbial cherry on the sundae. I love how just before the 5/21 "Estimated" you can hear (with headphones on) Bobby breaking down the set all the way through to "One More Saturday Night", after which Jerry says with a chuckle "I hope they didn't hear that play". Good stuff.

Shouty Bobby

I hadn't noticed. Sounds good on the Weather Reports. Which tracks? Will keep an ear out. I don't listen to Skull and Roses on account of the overdubs. They pull me out of the mood, kind of like that wake up call you get when an AUD patch is weaved in. Distracting. But today I will listen. Dark-Star that was a hilarious joke about Donna sitting on the remote. I was thinking almost the same thing but it was something else causing her consternation. I agree, it's not what she's screaming so much as the volume she screaming it at. It mixes in well on the multitrack recordings from Europe 72 and Veneta. There's so many songs I think she sounds great on. Weather Report Suite wouldn't/ doesn't sound the same without her.

Shoutboy Bob

Double post. I can no longer tell if the browser is thinking or if I didn't push the button hard enough.

Disc Quality

I have had issues with a TON of dead box sets: Beyond Description, 30 Trips, Get Shown the Light, Scrapbook, RFK, and those are the ones just off the top of my head. The quality of the production and discs themselves is terrible. My 30 Trips is still effed up but I just gave up trying to get discs that didn't look like someone spilled maple syrup all over them. In terms of sound quality, there have been some drops, but nothing too unusual. The 5/19 vocals drop out on Sugaree, Jack Straw, Roses (I am listening now). Bobby mentions technical difficulties after Jack Straw. In terms of the board vs. the house mix, I cannot verify on Donna screams but I can testify to 80's house mixes sounding great and the boards not so much. So I believe that there is a difference. I have been in the good audience > soundboard camp for a long time because of that fact. EDIT: Vocal drops on 5/19: Sugaree, Jack Staw, Roses, El Paso. Is that what everyone else experienced?

Contagious? Nah.

a·nal-re·ten·tivePSYCHOANALYSIS adjective 1. (of a person) excessively orderly and fussy (supposedly owing to conflict over toilet-training in infancy). noun 1. a person who is excessively orderly and fussy. It seems odd to have afflicted Dead fans more than, say, metal fans or just the general public on other message boards that I frequent. Which is weird since so many hippies are/were dirty and smelly, and Jerry reeked and was filthy for many years of his life; and, finally, that the music is so uneven in it's human-ness. It's what I love about this music... it was never just exactly perfect. So why should the product be? Beyond the cd's playing - that, I agree, is essential.

Thanks Kayak Guy..

..for the heads up about Dicks Picks 29. I'd never have guessed those bonus tracks came from October 11th. Wonder why they chose tracks from that tour? Also I agree with Skull Trip-certainly as regards 5/19/77-superb show. Maybe the best Ramble On Rose I have heard. Yet.

sugaree

Sugaree from the pure AUD recording of what they heard in the venue.https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-19.115876.aud-patlee.cousinit.fla…

Shouty Bobby-Exile

Its on the uptempo numbers that he sounds a bit strained to me. So, on the last one I listened to-the 5/21/74 show that would include the Chuck Berry numbers and Sugar Magnolia. I would also like to add, that if you listen to those tracks to see for yourself if his vocals are a bit harsh, I sincerely hope that they don't sound that way to you, and that you come to the conclusion that I am speaking rubbish.

Quite a surprise on yesterday's Sirius show

Driving to a meeting yesterday the 12/30/82 Oakland show was on at noon eastern. Only caught the start of second set Touch of Grey.... Just listened to the rest on Archive from Charlie Miller set II... Wow.. Touch Throwing Stones> Franklin's Tower.. Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance>He's Gone> Drums/Space> Truckin> Stella Blue> GDTRFB> Johnny B Good... Encore Hard to Handle and Tell Mama with Etta James and Tower of Power... Been listening pretty much non stop to new box set.. somehow overlooked this show for 33 years. have a good day.. bob t

people:

vocal dropouts happen. it's no big deal. it's on the source tape. Donna...yes, it's known she was...overly enthusiastic at times. regardless: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

this weekend

i have an opportunity for a 6 hour road trip from Seattle to Portland and back. by myself. no non-Deadheads in the car. 5/21/74 second set 6/24/73 6/22/73 :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

PNW box art

Any links to HQ scans of the individual CD artwork? Acquired one of these nifty boxes and it really looks nice. So far have listened to the first show and sounds great. Looks like this will be one to sit down with and listen under minimal interuptions. The Here Comes Sunshine from 6/22/73 might be my new favorite version. Bob's semi-hollow body guitar and some sort of chorus processing kind of has a french horn or flugal quality to it. really cool. Based on art design, this one deserves a Grammy.

Space, try these.

Hi-res, color-corrected scans from my "chest":https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a513cb875hedpwc/AAD-YTpMLYXoC-W_U1FrqXJaa?dl… BTW: I think I'm about to get some sort of "survivors guilt complex" or something after reading all the bummers folks are having. There's no PB&J, fingerprints, scratches or smudges on the CD's I got – nuthin'. Even after a few extra stops en route out to the hinterland, the packing box and chest were fine. I am VERY sorry for all you heads that got gimped boxes and CD's. It sounds like you're in good hands with Dr. Rhino and/or MaryE. Best wishes. Hang in there! Onward. . .

Muchas Gracias

That was fast. Scans look nice. Thanks.

Hi

Space. Glad to hear you got a box. Bob t. 12/30/82 is complete on YouTube. I think. Only going to need one replacement disc, which had popped off its spindle and appears to have been a crash test dummy disc on the way here.

6/24/73

Excellent Dark Star!!I'm digesting this box slowly and so far so good....wow!

Re: dark star

Ha yeah, took me 2 commutes but I just listened to that today too. Awesome

Re: bobt - New Years 82

Love those shows. 12/30/82 was a gem.. The three set 12/31 shines too, two great shows. 12/31/82 Oakland Auditorium Arena - Oakland, CA Set 1: Cold Rain And Snow C.C. Rider Cumberland Blues Far From Me Cassidy Ramble On Rose Looks Like Rain Day Job Set 2: Sugar Magnolia Sugaree Man Smart-Woman Smarter Ship Of Fools Playin' In The Band Drums Not Fade Away Deal Sunshine Daydream Set 3: Turn On Your Love Light Tell Mama Baby What You Want Me To Do Hard To Handle In The Midnight Hour Encore: Brokedown Palace Nice Midnight Hour too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDyZj16jiM Johnny / Erik - I just finished the Dark Star show too. Looks like I'm not the only one turtling their way through the box. A great one, went to look for an audience to see if Keith didn't play or was just out of the mix but I didn't see one. One great Dark Star nonetheless.

Re: Bob's spacey effect

He's using a phaser pedal called a Foxx Foot Phaser. They were pretty new in 1973. At first i thought it was a MXR Phase 80, but they came out the next year. I had never noticed him using that before, but these are also the first summer '73 shows officially released in their entirety. He definitely isn't using it in '74, and I don't recall hearing it in Winterland '73, and I think that 35 min Dark Star would've been a great place to employ some phaser, but I didn't hear any the other day, when I listened to that second set and the 12/4/73 bonus disc. He plays it liberally throughout the 3 '73 shows in this box, sometimes it adds an astounding texture, like Sugaree. It really mixes that one up at a time where Sugaree was a good song, but not venturing out into the 15 min+ territory that it got to in 1977. Like, the Tennesee Jed from 5/21/77 DP 29 (see it was mentioned here for other reasons today, and you may wanna check the Jack Straw and Jed on 5/21 if you pull that one out because all of these other mentions, which I heartily endorse), Jerry uses his MuTron for the solo, a rarity that I think I heard only a couple other times. Pretty sure none of the other May '77 shows released have one. But don't think I've heard Jerry rip a better Jed than that one, and it follows on the heels of my favorite May '77 Jack Straw. But, I digress... Oh, and to jump into the Donna fray, something I wanted to avoid. But then the Scarlet Begonias from 5/19/74 came on and I was enjoying up until her remote control shock. And, as has been pointed out, there's some Bobby shouting going on as well, not much of it good shouting either. Wonder why the mics couldn't conveniently go out for those parts. Though, as some said, it's quite interesting hearing the music, I'm personally fascinated hearing what Jerry plays and doesn't play for those songs. Lastly, it is really nice to hear Keith quite prominently on a lot of songs, and to hear him taking solos is striking. If he took them regularly, the mix on most of the releases must really have him buried. His playing is fantastic on these shows.

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Having just listened to the first cd of 5/21/77, I would agree with alvarhanso that these are great versions of Tennessee Jed and Jack Straw. In fact the whole cd is great-They Love Each Other, Cassidy, Jack-A-Row, Row Jimmy-all top notch. Its a lot more of a conventional mix than the 73-74 ones we have been listening to. Everything in its rightful place, no vocal howlers, Jerry at the helm-all good stuff. Not for a minute saying its better than 73-74, just very different and excellent in a totally different way. One thing that struck me as pleasingly unusual about 5/19/77 was its ending. Its very impressive the way the set quietly draws to a close with the last notes of the Playin' jam. I assumed that the few songs must have been excised, so I checked Deadbase. And that's the way it was on the night. Cool.

"good audience > soundboard camp "

I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.

"good audience > soundboard camp "

I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.

"good audience > soundboard camp "

I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.

"good audience > soundboard camp "

I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.

MAY 77

Since we got on this 77 tangent. I was wondering if anybody has a digital copy of May 77 box set they could copy for me? I already got the Get Shown The Light box but I missed out on May 77. Just message me, thanks.

Slow comp = multiple posts?!?!

But Dave I think you've got the message. As long as I'm here again . . .. Hey Dave please consider NYC's MSG September 1979 3 show run for a minibox set. These shows are very worthy of official release treatment.These shows are the new kid's, Brent, first MSG NYC shows. The Big League. I saw someone mention Winter 79? I could go for that.

"Evil" Thought

I jumped into the Donna fray a few days ago, trying to emphasize her professionalism, the difficulty of being in her position and leaping out in performance, and the fact that it seemed she did exactly what she was asked. That was before hearing unprecedentedly blood-curdling shrieks on the 17May74 PITB - they just about gave me a coronary while I was exercising a couple of days ago. If a wife had/used a voice like that, it would help the husband retain his sanity to be profoundly deaf (but since hers played in the Grateful Dead, that would have been another problem). Canine hearing being far more acute than that of humans, I'd be interested in seeing a typical dog react to that voice. I have visions of the animal depiction in the old RCA logo, and the animal running away from the grammophone, yelping and diving into the nearest shrubbery, putting its paws over its head. It would be entertaining to see Monsieur Lemieux have someone edit a track of nothing but Donna's vocalisms from the entirety of the archives - to see how long would it run, and how many disks it would fill or overflow, as well as how popularly it would sell (Dave's picks, anyone?). Nah, too cruel - I do call it an evil thought because Donna might be a terrific person to know - it's just a quality in the voice God gave her that's unpleasant to me, and the passage of time has probably mellowed that voice quite a bit.

In praise of DaP 11 (11/17/72)

Took a break from listening to the box set….to listen to more grateful dead. I dove into 11/17/72 (DaP 11). This has got to be a top 5 pick. One of the best bird song’s of all time, and perhaps the all-time He’s Gone>Truckin>TOO....wow this is a great one.

Nugent7453 - May '77

Check your PM.

Sweet Donna Jean

When I was younger I usually liked the screaming, but have less and less tolerance for it as years go by.That being said, let us remeber ... - Bob can be just as bad on occasion - They are hearing themselves through completely different equipment in a completely different context. I guarantee if you heard much of this live it would not be as prominent and thus not as bad...especially since she was often turned way up to try and make her be heard, which does not translate well to direct recorded tape. Just listen to E72 shows for a better idea of a well balanced vocal mix including DG. - Women often don’t have the same power as men to sing or yell loudly enough so they, and sometimes Bob strain or extend themselves which doesn’t usually sound good, You can even find examples of ol Jer too. (This is not sexist. Some women have a thin or higher range that is harder to be LOUD is all I meant) obviouslly there are many great women singers that have super powerful voices, just not all) - DG obviously could sing or would not have gotten work as a studio singer. In fact most of the work she does with the dead in the studio was awesome. Some folks, and perhaps some women have a harder time singing live in really loud R&R bands. She as well as the rest have admitted as much. - Personally, I’ve rarely heard a female vocalist that meshed well with the dead. Even post dead etc. I did really like that Garcia gal that sang backups in Futhur. Something about the boys to me made it tough for women to mesh, any era...I’m sure there are occasional exceptions, but generally speaking.... - Donna imho was a way better when she was more of a secondary, back up singer (in the dead). I know many feel she was better in the post hiatus band, and in some ways she was. I believe they made monitor/gear and position changes that helped. I think time also helped her learn the material and mesh better. As some mention, the stuff she did that they learned after she joined is often better for her than the “old” stuff they learned before her. But to me, she like some of the other “non-core” dead members over the years were better as secondary players. I didnt always like when they start having these folks become full on participants. But that’s just my worthless OPINION. - Board Recordings. Yes there are some truly jarring instances on this box where it’s tough to take, but that’s more because of technical variables and the idiosyncrasies of SB recordings as much as DG herself. Unfortunately the human mind often focuses on very different, jarring, scary sounds more than soft or soothing. If all you listen for is the ugly stuff, yeah, your not going to like DG. But if you move past that stuff and concentrate on the other, perhaps less dramatic stuff she did, she can be indeed very sweet. - Intoxication;in fact, and as she herself has said, intoxication can often be very detrimental to singing. Hell all music can be sometimes be affected negatively, look what happened to Jer...... Finally, ive talked to a few people who have had a chance to meet her and all have said she is truly a very nice person. So before one is tempted to be negative and perhaps even say something hateful, consider the big picture and all that was involved......

Donna as back up singer

I would agree that her greatest moments with the Dead were when she was singing back up. I am thinking particularly of the post retirement Looks Like Rains. Actually, all of the Dead were at their best when they were tightly enmeshed in the whole. Take any one member out of that whole and they always sounded-and probably still do-somewhat diminished.

The Donna discussions never go away, they just go on hiatus....

....I like her, but to be honest, when she unloads one of those screeches, my dogs always give each other the "WTF was that!!" look.

Seattle PITB

Finally got to the 46 min PITB. Holy crap! They just kept going and going and going! Whew!

I agree, Oroborous

I appreciate the breakdown of all the factors that go to the Donna problem.If i may add: I went to many many 70's shows (and then some). Not once did she sound so off, or shrill, as the tapes make it appear nowadays. No one ever left a show criticizing Donna for her 'screams'. Maybe the live loudness of the auditoriums kept it at bay somewhat but nobody who was there was complaining at the time. And some of the best pure rock 'n roll girl screaming i've ever heard was on 'Round & 'Round !!

-Dicks picks 34 11/5/77- vinyl release :)

https://shop.realgonemusic.com/products/grateful-dead-dicks-picks-34-6l… If the saga of the Grateful Dead is a long strange trip, then we’ve definitely been along for part of the ride! First, we brought you the entire Dick’s Picks series of live concerts on CD, all 36 volumes of it, many of them never before available at retail. Then we began putting out the Road Trips series, none of which has ever been in stores before. But now, dear Deadheads and Real Goners, the time has come to take the next step in our evolution as a key source for rare Grateful Dead recordings. It’s time to cross…the vinyl frontier. And we are hoping you will cross it with us, because we aren’t even offering this release to retail until you have had a chance—at a special low price—to snag all 1500 hand-numbered, limited editions of our new 6-LP set, Grateful Dead: Dick’s Picks Vol. 34—Rochester, NY 11/5/77! That’s right…we are finally putting Dick’s Picks on vinyl, and, boy, have we picked the right one. How do we know? You told us! This was by far the best-selling volume on CD from our reissue campaign. And no wonder, it’s from that magical year of 1977, with fiery performances of “Big River,” “Jack Straw,” “Deal,” and “Eyes of the World” powered by a particularly lively Phil Lesh. But for many the highlight will be one of the truly great performances of “The Other One” in the Grateful Dead catalog, 12 minutes of surging intensity and building crescendos. This Pick also included highlights from a 11/2/77 Toronto show, including a great medley of “Estimated Prophet”/”St. Stephen”/”Truckin’”/”Around and Around” (we’ve reconfigured the track listing to put all the bonus tracks at the end of the set for a seamless concert experience). Definitely a great place to begin our journey into the realm of Grateful Dead vinyl! Such a stellar performance deserves a great package with great sound. For this Real Gone release, we’ve enlisted David Glasser at Airshow Mastering to remaster the set for vinyl. David’s had a long association with the Dead; he mastered the soundtrack to last year’s Long Strange Trip documentary among many other projects. For lacquer cutting, we turned to John Golden at Golden Mastering. John has worked with artists as far-ranging as Jonathan Wilson, Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings, and Soundgarden among many others, and he is our go-to engineer for lacquer cutting. The test pressings were approved by David Glasser, the Grateful Dead’s resident audiovisual archivist David Lemieux, and Gordon Anderson from Real Gone. We’ve pressed the set up on 180-gram vinyl for maximum fidelity, too. And we even scrapped the first pressing because it wasn’t up to our quality standards. As for the packaging, we’ve placed all six LPs inside a hardshell box adorned with the original front cover and a custom back cover featuring a great shot of Jerry Garcia from the show. Inside, you’ll find a 4-page, LP-sized, full-color insert offering photos from the original package along with the original trippy graphics. And, as we mentioned before, each of these limited-edition sets is hand-numbered all the way up to 1500. This set will not be repressed once we run out of the 1500 limited edition copies.

Re: itsinmyhead

Thanks, it’s always nice when someone can relate, especially adding your live experiences. As great as these SB recordings are, I’ve never heard one that sounded like what the show sounded like live in the venue, (usually in front of the mixing board, or even in the front row).... Used to be a musician in a past life too, and though great recordings can be made, dry, direct only or close miked instruments do not sound quite the same as the live sound in the venue. Of course mic tapes can be adversely effected by your position and the venue, your gear, technique and of course your neighbors...... JJEEEEEEERRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYY DAAAAAAAARRRRRRKKKKKKKKK SSSSTTTTTTAAAARRRR LOL always durning the most subtle, quiet, emotional ballad ; ) A&A: yasss that could really be the best for the DG “treatment”. Everyone always thinks of the PITB or Scarlets, which sometimes work, but playing especially, like with this box, can sometimes be a bit too much re-entry shall we say. A&A is perfect for that type of enthusiasm! Makes we want to go Fire up a hot one....... SUGGESTIONS? What’s the hottest Pre-Brent/Vince Around and Around folks?

she was a girl from Birmingham

well, Muscle Shoals, actually. Sex Pistols + Donna talk = the quips above. NMTBollocks = masterpiece

Re: Hot Around & Around

The one on DaP 1 5/25/77 is 9 min or so. It just kept going around and around. But seriously, was on a road trip a couple weeks ago and was amazed at that version when it came on. Not my favorite song, so I skip it a lot of times, but was going straight through that Pick for the first time in a while, and that one stood out. DiP 18 also has a fiery one. Which reminds me to check out that Scarlet> Fire again...

Around & Around

You said it best Oroborous - "A&A is perfect for that type of (Donna's)enthusiasm! Would love to hear everyone's favorite pre-Brent 'Around'. Mine are the 77-78's. 3-17-77 ~ Keith very prominent 10-16-77 ~ a spirited, but not loud, Donna 12-12-78 ~ a very energetic Donna Still looking for that one Bobby/Donna screamer, not sure of year. Just as Bobby sings '..rose out of my seat' Donna lets out a primal rock 'n roll scream, and it gets hotter and louder from there! It may be an official release but not too sure now.

Great cover...

I forget which show came on. But Donna Jean's cover of Loretta Lynn, "You Ain't Woman Enough (To Take My Man)," I thought was just wonderful. She sings in that sweet, sassy country voice. Hell, Donna Jean was from the South and really more at home singing backup on Elvis records and that kind of thing. Anyway, I love her rendition of that song. Good for her.

Screamer

May be The Closing Of Winterland 12/31/78

Great Original...

I love Donna Jean's "Rain" from Cats Under the Stars. Great original song and performance by Donna.

Around & Around

5/14/78 (one of the 30 trips shows) She and bobby go totally nuts. It's a great one, as is the Samson they played that night too. Crazy amount of energy (ok and maybe drugs).

9/3/77 Donna Jean

Donna belts out a primal scream during NFA....so on the spot, in the moment.

download version question

Do the transitions stay intact? Or do you get that slight gap? I have the CD box set. With CDs going out of favor from the industry. Thinking about digital downloads. Hate to see my Cds move into the same realm as my analogs.

i poop, there for i am.

with the return of the Captcha code to screen out the bots, i found this article interesting after having to look for bikes in fuzzy photos. <<<<<<<< from an MIT study on a single word Turing test >>>>>>>> The words human respondents used to prove their humanity included “love” (a massive 14 percent of responses), various answers relating to emotions, compassion, religion, and … “poop.” Because what are we as the planet’s current most intelligent beings if not for lovers of toilet humor? In fact, poop had a whole lot of significance for the project. After the answers had been collected, the researchers randomly formed pairs of words and then told another group of 2,405 participants to choose which word they thought was from a human and which one was from a robot — despite the fact that both were selected by humans. “Poop” was the one that most people thought had been picked by a human. The least successful, for obvious reasons, was “robot.” “Most of the words make sense once you see them, but they’re not necessarily what I would have predicted ahead of time,” Tomer Ullman, a postdoctoral associate in the Computational Cognitive Science group at MIT, told us. “Some of the words still have us scratching our heads. That the taboo category word beat out everything else isn’t something I would’ve bet a lot of money on before we ran the study, though it may seem obvious in retrospect.”

Around and Around

This song really seemed to catch fire in 1977-78. What I like about it most is the double speed instrumental break in the middle. When I first heard it, I thought they were going into Johnny B. Goode, but they never do, on the versions I have heard. But Jerry really pulls out the stops on the old Chuck Berry licks during that mid song break. Definitely one of the songs that improved exponentially after the retirement break at the end of 1974.

Donna Jean question

just listen to Row Jimmy 6/24/73.....Donna seemed in fine form. Donna's harmony, is it a better fit with Jerry or Bobby? Don't forget the JGB shows. Can we see the DVD/CD combo of 6/17/91 soon?

Re: download version question

It should be seamless, but it may also depend on what you play it on. If you use VLC player it will be completely seamless. It's a free download, and a great media player.

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