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I am putting in 2 vine request. Not sure what's out there. 1) JGB with Cats under the stars (1977/78) 2) Late '69 (August through December) Early '69 sounds totally different than late '69 stuff. I have 4 shows from this late '69 era: 8/23, 9/1 (gaps between tracks), and 12/31 (gaps between tracks). I can vine 8/23 if that is not out there. I'll go check.

I needed to write a little letter to you all...and here it is.http://www.dead.net/forum/going-furthur Copy and pasted. Hey boyz and girlz...LOVE YOU....missed you too. Figured I'd just write everything here, because I assume most people check this thread. I've been under some serious pressures lately, Mom is back in the hospital, and honestly when she was out it was like a full time babysitting job. So, I appreciate all the kind vibes from all you from before, she's doing ok, just not there yet. Also, I've been working on projects @ the same time so I've had to put PRIORITIES ahead of being online and talking to my family. I will be getting everything squared away here in the next couple of days, I really just need to sleep and take a breather from the Chaos of what I've been dealing with. So please don't think that I've forgot about prizes and Getting back online/chatting/talking/vining and talking with all you kind folks. Just know that I've been under EXTREME stress with Mom's Disease and dealing with the game called "Life". Thanks for understanding, and I love you my family....ALOT! In fact without some of my close friends and dead.netters (family freinds) I don't think I'd still be sane right now. Love, Canyon Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥

CC: Hope you get some rest and your mom feels better soon. I have not experienced a lot of the issues that some of you have dealt with on a personal level but I've been there too. In 2006, my daughter was born 3 months premature and spent about 2 1/2 months in the childrens' hospital. That was the one of the most stressful times in my life. It was a living hell. Been there. I feel for all of you having hard times. My daughter is doing fine now and is such a blessing and did not have any of the bad outcomes the doctors said she would have. My prayers go out to all of you having a tough time.

All, I found this article on a GD music website (Workingman's Tracker). I don't have a copy of the February 3-11 Rolling Stone but if anyone does, give it a good look and comment! Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead This is an article from this week's Rolling Stone (Feb 3 '11, page 22). My first thought was, "This has to be a hoax..." But here it is: DEAD REACH BACK TO LEGENDARY 1972 TOUR FOR MASSIVE BOX SET Due in fall, the 60-plus CD release includes every show from European trek. On April 1st, 1972, the Grateful Dead arrived in Britain for the opening dates of their first European tour. The timing was perfect - "the feast of fools," guitarist Bob Weir says, laughing. "There was a challenge for us, playing for people not familiar with what we were up to. But we were ready for fresh ears...we were hot."... In the fall, the tour will be released by Rhino as a limited-edition beast: 22 shows on more than 60 CDs. The lavish set, available by pre- order from the Dead's website, will cost over $400 and is unprecedented even by their archive-box standards. "By the time we're finished, we'll have put two years into this," says producer David Lemieux, who expects mixing and mastering to wrap by June. "If there was ever a tour that needed a complete release, it was Europe '72. It's one of the top three tours the Dead ever did, and there's a pristine 16-track recording of every show..." "I remember that tour clearly," says bassist Phil Lesh, noting that no one in the band had been to Europe before. [SIC] "In Hamburg, we played in the hall where Brahms played. In Paris, I literally felt the spirits of Chopin and Debussy. I think that made us play better. I remember being on..." "Someone would catch fire, and that would spread," Bob Weir says. "I'd catch a riff everyone coalesced around. Then someone else would come up with something that took us another way. It was a collective flash - time to move on." The Dead were in dramatic transition that spring, emboldened by the jazzy ambitions of new pianist Keith Godchaux. "It was amazing how tuned in he was to our music," Lesh says. "In Paris, he played like a god." The European tour was also the Dead's last with ailing singer-organist Ron 'Pigpen' McKernan, who died in 1973. "He didn't have as much energy as before," Weir says, "but he was trying his best to deal with it."... Lemieux says other Dead tours deserve full release, such as the fall of '73 and spring 1990: "It's such a diverse band. You can do boxes from '72 and '89 back-to-back, and there's nothing similar about them, except it's Grateful Dead music." "It all boils down to, 'Is there a story there?'" says Weir. "If we can find an era like this, with a story line and development - and I have a feeling there is - there would be merit in doing this again."

We're thinking of you "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

This is being posted at many places, but I can't find it on the RS website. I'm going to see if I can find the issue in the brick and mortar world. Update to come...

If this is true, we better get all the gettin' while the gettins' good. Otherwise, it will be too late.

Here is the text to the e-mail I received today. The header is in the subject line above. As one of the Grateful Dead’s biggest fans, and as our way of thanking you for subscribing to the Road Trips series... We want to give you a heads up to keep your eyes peeled for a major announcement from Dead.net, today at 12pm PST. Something BIG is coming. It might just blow your mind. Privacy Policy Unsubscribe Dead.net 3400 West Olive Ave. Burbank CA 91505

Interesting, Flyer, you must be part of the inner circle, or at least I must be well outside of the circle, as I have not received such an email. The latest issue of Rolling Stone is 1/20 and there was nothing re: the Dead on page 22. We'll wait and see.

Ahhh, I did not subscribe to Road Trips, hence no email...

I get deadnet e-mails all the time about this or that, but I am not a subscriber to the road trip series so I did not get the notice. I must also be in the outter circle. I guess that's 3 PM for us on the east coast.

This is a monumental endeavor. I wonder how many people will pay 450 bucks, however.I will be very interested to see if they reach their requirement of 3,000 orders by April. What do you guys think? "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

If they hit 3,000 orders there will be some wealthy folks out there in Dead Land! 60 x 3,000 = almost a 1/4 of a million CDs ... Maybe they should offer it in flac? =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Someone posted this in the topic for the boxed set. Basically, they will not even begin production unless they are GUARANTEED (450 x 3000) $1,350,000. How much of that do you think is profit? How much will they earn if they sell 5,000 sets? "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

I am not sure how you calculate profit here. 10,000 copies times $450 each = $4.5m Bobby, Phil, Billy, Donna and the estate of Jerry, Keith and Pigpen all get their cut. That is the big question. I'm sure the sale of the vault to Rhino was not a complete sale. The individual members must have retained a cut on every sale. There are engineering costs, other creative costs (Blair J getting the bulk of it, JUST KIDDING!), physical costs for the trunk, discs, etc. There is a small amount of money that will have to go to pay the writers of the cover songs. And then Rhino has to pay their employees. Not just the CEO, but the accountant, the secretary, the receptionist. I honestly do not think they are making a killing here. Sure, they are making a little money, but nothing outrageous.

if i spent $450 on music cds, and my wife found out about it, I am afraid my "vining career" would be over ;-) of course i've probably spent that much vining the last 2.5 years.

I am certain when I get home tonight my wife will ask me if these are shows I already have. I will compose myself, look her straight in the eye, and lie, "no, of course not, sweetie." :)

But still ... it's a lot of cash and a lot of CD's (flac anyone, anyone =) Buuuut the more I think about it ... I just may have to phenangle a way to get it! I'm thinking I probably reeeeaaallly need this one honey =) Dang I'm gonna have to sell some grilled cheeses at the Furthur shows in Broomfield to pay for this sucker ... A LOT of grilled cheeses lol!! ha!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Thanks zep! Appreciate the link: http://store.dead.net/new/europe-72-complete-recordings Our friends over at the GD Store are finally accepting orders for the Euro 72 Box. Best Wishes-Jimmy

Well, it turns out the GD store IS NOT accepting orders yet for Euro 72. Even though I received an order confirmation number, it appears that the new system being used cannot locate my confirmation. Order placed approx. 3:30AM Central. Called 1-800-CAL-DEAD at 7:00AM Central to confirm and was told they have no record of the order. It's Just Another Day! Best Wishes-Jimmy

It hasn't worked for me yet either. Work out the issues before-hand dead.net!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

I just got a phone call this morning and have to get on a plane and deal with a family illness. So the above mentioned things will be delayed.

Take care man, hope everything is ok. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

hope everything turns out ok

dstache, Prayers go out to your family. Hang in there. Be safe.

hope all is well man. take care

hope things work out okay for you and your family!!

take care of whats important first. best of luck

I'm flying to Michigan in the morning. My Dad is 60 yrs old and has multiple scelerosis. He's had it most of my life. His mother, my grandmother, cares for him. He's been in a hospital/nursing facility the last 6 weeks. It seemed like he was getting better and was going to be sent home, but things took a turn for the worst. Thanks for all the kind thoughts and hopefully I'm back early next week.

sorry to hear this, hope all goes well and that you have a safe trip . " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

Hope all turns out well. Boy, after reading the posts regarding the Europe 72 boxed set, I have reached the conclusion that the substantial upgrade in the quality of the shows they offer, simply isn't worth the hassle. I will stick with my collection gathered mostly from the vineyard and be satisfied. Personally, I don't see the need for every single note played during the entire tour, although I do recognize that many people feel otherwise. The Rhino people sure seem to have a tough time with everything they release! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

All is well, my Dad isn't as bad off as it seemed. Not that he is well, of course, but things aren't as bleak as they seemed. Thanks for all the good wishes, all! I am not holding any vines except for the Vince 1990 P1 which is still waiting for its own thread. For some reason I think Marye may be a little busy at the moment. ;) Supposedly, I have ordered the Europe 72 box. I got a pre-order confirmation as well as a reservation confirmation, but I couldn't confirm the order here on the site and Customer Service told me to use the reservation code. The process definitely sucks and they need to do a better job. These bad vibes will kill you, Rhino! The main thing is to NOT limit it to a specific number but instead, if you have to limit it at all, to limit it to a specific time (a month say). However long you limit it, it has to be long enough that everyone who wants one and is willing to pay can LOG IN and actually place their order.

Marye's busy because of the Europe '72 box fiasco, get it?!?!?! Still more of a tragedy than comedy... :)

Glad to hear your dad is doing well . " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

this was posted earlier in one of the threads here On January 17th, 2011 smiley dave said: My name is Ryan, Smiley's nephew. He has been in the hospital for over a week. They said he should be out wed or thursday. He has been freakin out not getting what you call VINES? He wanted me to tell you last week. I forgot was more concerned with him. He said you would know what he means Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!! has anyone heard anything yet from smiley? I hope he is ok

First - I want to say I wish him the very best. This is the thread I bumped this morning – probably the latest I seen http://www.dead.net/forum/11-85-shn-flac-vine I’ve sent him about 5 vines which I don’t think anyone else has requested – he acknowledged receipt of the first only. I am behind on a couple that I can certainly wait a while for… I am aware of the difficulties he is having – but I feel it is best to skip him until he is back up to speed.

I am behind him on a couple that I can certainly wait a while for…

I am behind him on a couple (vines that he has) that I can certainly wait a while for… get well Dave

Have you guys seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixIhUMlfPoU&feature=related I did not know there were Jerry impersonators out there to this extreme. The tucked shirt is a dead giveaway. This is scary. What in the world?

Hello: I just discovered this space while searching for a Hunter set list, therefore I am not exactly sure how things work around here. Regardless, I have a couple of Hunter bootleg dvd's --- don't know if anyone has offered them here before: Here's the first one if anyone wants a copy: March 5, 1997 House of Blues, Chicago, IL 1 disc --- "fair" quality [hand-held camera; no upgrade on original audio], but an absolutely outstanding performance [Hunter-freaks will want this] SET 1 ["warm-up" set] Bertha Tiger Rose Candyman It Must Have Been the Roses One Thing to Try Truckin' SET 2 Jack Straw Mason's Children Standing on the Moon Keys to the Rain Wharf Rat Wild Bill Silvio Franklin's Tower [transcendent] Scarlet Begonias China Cat Sunflower > Dark Star > Mountains on the Moon > China Cat Sunflower ENCORE: Tennessee Waltz Steamers on the Canal Ripple Boys in the Barroom =========================================== jerri1031-dp3 at yahoo

Hey boy and girlz, Just as a heads up my mom is finally out of inpatient therapy (hospital) and is now only doing the outpatient program....so I'm "babysitting" for only a little while each day, and things have calmed down on this end. I know I have a few vines that need to go out and also, from what I hear, possibly need to reseed (ie. possibly the zepplelin DVD, etc.) let me know. I'll search my inbox and the forums for things as well. FINALLY, I feel like a 50 ton weight is lifted of my shoulders and can breathe again. Love you my family, Critter P.S. Smiley Dave said he had a ton of vines in a box as well, and is having some major medical issues, so he was just going to send that box to me and I'll make sure to get them to the right people. ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥

That's great, CC! I hope things continue to get better for you and your mother.

Glad to hear ur mom is doing better and hope she keeps getting better. As for smileydave, I hope he is doin ok as well. I know he hasnt been around in awhile and the fact he is passing on his vines is a little unsettling to me. I guess we just keep on bumping him down the lists he is on until he returns. Thanks for the update on him.

Happy to hear your Mom is doing better . " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

I am going to reseed 77 Part 4 but I ask that everyone who is on the list, or who newly signs up, please re-post the list with asterisks (***) next to their name to indicate that they still want the vine. I will have it ready in 2 to 3 weeks (working long hrs 6 days a week). Thanks!

Not to make you guys jealous, but my tickets for the Friday night Furthur show in Boston's Orpheum theatre just came. 14th Row, just right of center!!! Thank you GDTS Too.Still waiting for RCMH tickets or refund. Anybody going to the show let's meet up. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

I haven't read all of the 'Meta Topic' vine so forgive me if this has been covered...but I was wondering what I do when sending a vine across the pond. Do I make another copy to send there to make a branch in the vine and keep the original, send the original or .....??? I know there aren't many rules here but I don't want do anything that goes against the normal procedures and protocol and stuff. Also any tips for packing would be appreciated, do you just use the bubble mailer or do you use something more riged? Mike