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    Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

    This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

    During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

    This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • simonrob
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    When something is wrong...

    The recent epidemic of malfunctioning discs should not be ignored or dismissed with comments like "It will all come good in the end." It should not have gone so badly wrong in the first place and Rhino should be left in no doubt that their market finds this unacceptable.

    Whether or not it has anything to do with cost cutting is something Rhino is unlikely to divulge. That the discs are noticeably thinner and more flexible than the norm and that they are made in Mexico may or may not contribute to the problem, but most sentient beings could put 2 and 2 together and get 4 as the answer.

    To dismiss complaining about this situation as endless whining seems so absurd that it seems aimed purely at provoking a reaction. I hesitate to use the "T-word" but how else should it be described.

    My message to Rhino is: Give us quality products for our money. Surely this is not too much to ask?. What may be too much to ask is for the elusive Dr. Rhino to post an explanation of what has gone amiss recently, but it would be a nice gesture to those having so much trouble trying to resolve issues that they have with recent releases that came to a head with Dave's Picks Volume 28.

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    In praise of speaking out

    As I understand it, the people who speak out against receiving a poor quality service make more of a positive contribution to the culture surrounding the product in question than those who don't. Surely, if a profit making organisation can make more profit by cutting costs, they will do so. If, in cutting costs, the quality of the product deteriorates, then it is up to everyone who purchases that product to point out what has happened, with a view to rectifying the situation. If they care about what they are buying, that is.
    Hopefully we have got way past the point where we are mere passive recipients.

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    Happy Day After New Year everyone!!....

    .... sorry I'm late, but to say I tied one on New Year's Eve would be an understatement. Didn't wake up until noon yesterday, and no, I didn't wake up to find out that I was the eyes of the world. I woke up looking for my Excedrin. Here's to a grate 2019 for everyone! Dave's Picks so far sure don't hurt very long..... shameless plug into this!!....
    https://youtu.be/r0oY7OEg4Ik
    ....the chills start at the 15:00 mark. The chills peak at 16:45. There's an I Know You Rider in there trying to escape. Sploooooosh....then it gets really dark, and really weird. I couldn't have asked for anything more.

  • DeadVikes
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    Where's Bolo?

    Have not seen a post from Bolo in a long time. Maybe concides with this release and the defective CDs?

  • Trainwrecked
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    It's your incessant complaining Sam

    Lol, no I don't work for Rhino. But that's telling, that you think a rhino employee would talk to a customer like that. It just shows how out of touch you are, and belligerent toward the system. The reason I posted my comment is because you are a drag. If it were one time that would be one thing, but you complain about everything, all the time, multiple times. That's reason number one that I posted. You are a buzz kill.

    Reason number two is that I don't want you to f*** it up for those of us who don't think that the occasional exchanging of discs is worth sandbagging the organization that brings us all of this great music. It has never taken me more than an email thread to resolve a product defect. I'm talking mere minutes. You on the other hand make it sound like they're pulling your fingernails out, repeatedly, about the same damn thing. I consider myself a stakeholder and you drive down the stock every time you shoot off your loud mouth. So no need to guess about my motives, you have them right here.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Caveat emptor

    Included on Dick’s Picks to let you know that they weren’t studio recordings and the tapes might not be in the best condition.
    Probably should have used it on the PNW Box to warn that Wall of Sound shows often start with fiddling of the controls to get it just exactly perfect. Seems that a lot of people think they have defective discs because the vocals drop out.

    Now disc skipping, that’s a legitimate defect.

    A new caveat emptor is now needed to warn that your CDs might contain skips.
    My replacements of DaP28 CD3 are supposedly in transit but, based on the post from Judysparty, I’m wondering about the quality of the redo. If it still skips on Let It Grow then that would suggest that the negative used for pressing is defective and wasn’t replaced.
    At this point I wonder if they even still physically stamp a blank, or if they just bought a couple hundred duplicators and now just burn discs.

    My past defects:
    5-5-77 CD2
    8-24-72 CD3

    Golden Road and Beyond Description Boxes (I didn’t try to get replacements):
    Skull Fuck, Dead Set, and another that I don’t remember at this moment.

    And a weird one with Road Trips v1n2+bonus where it plays fine on the stereo but has many skips when copied to a hard drive. I used two different computers and burners and both copies had skips and dropouts, but in different places. After making 5 copies I was able to piece together the good fragments and get a copy on my music player.

    Rockin’ the Rhein:
    CD3 was missing.

    Other people have reported other problems over the years that I never experienced. But, it seems that the frequency and overall number of defects is increasing.
    That’s not a good sign.

    I forgot who said it below, the box cutter blues may have been annoying, but at least the CDs were not defective.

  • unkle sam
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    I was acknowledging a previous post and I also have been buying literally hundreds of discs and I can only go by what has transpired in the past with what is transpiring now. So, you do what you want to, no one told you to do anything that you don't want to do. You go ahead and blindly purchase your product and I will wait till the reviews come in and we will see who is the happier for it. I guess you have all the time in the world to chase defective disc replacements, I do not. I agree with you that most problems are corrected and Marye is the best person for getting that done. I also agree that you have every right to disagree with what I said, but your tone is rather harsh, do you work for rhino? I know in the past there were no problems with disc, then, all of a sudden, there are, what would you contribute that to? I never mentioned Mexico or inflated costs so where that came from is anybody's guess, I did state that I missed the good old days when Grateful Dead products were made in the USA, yes, and that is true, I do miss those days, but don't try and put words into the conversation that I never said. Also, if you don't think that rhino is making a rather substantial profit from these sales, than you are delusional. Finally, I stated that I would gladly pay more for a quality product, so no one was bitching about the cost, again, you jumped to your own conclusion which is way off base and just, well, wrong. I stand by what I said and if you don't like it, oh well, some folks just can't connect the dots as you put it. I do know one thing, I don't care what you think about my outlook or my grasp of reality, which, by the way, is your opinion, which is wrong again. I don't follow the limited 2 per order comment, but you started to ramble then and the rest is gibberish. I can tell by your demeanor that something I said pissed you off, might it have been the wall/bridge comment? Anyway, something I said upset you and for that I say sorry, but I call them like I see them. 2019 is going to be a great year for me, and my outlook is nothing but positive, and based in a brighter reality than you seem to have and I will continue to speak my mind even if you try and tear me down, "bro"

  • Trainwrecked
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    Yawn, give it a rest Sam

    You assume too much. Like for example, how do you know that the problem stems from the discs being made in Mexico is the reason there is a problem? You don't know that making them in the USA will solve anything. And how do you know that the defective disc issue resulted from a move to increase profit at Rhino (and NOT a move to prevent cost increase to the buyer?)

    I've purchased literally hundreds, probably over a thousand Grateful Dead discs from Rhino at this point, and have had very few problems. The problems I have had in the past have been resolved by either Customer Support, marye, or Dr. Rhino.

    Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face if you want, but I for one, recognize how fucking good we have it, to be able to purchase all of this music at normal prices. And the prices are normal, you just have to buy in bulk to make the system work. So don't bitch about their profit or what you're paying either.

    You see that sign that says "Limited 2 copies per order?" That's Rhino listening to the people, so get that straight in your head too bro.

    You'd be a much happier person with a more positive outlook, not to mention one that is better set in reality, because you do connect a lot of dots on assumption. Maybe 2019 will be a better one for you.

  • Strider 808808
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    January 2, 1970, Fillmore East was my first Grateful Dead concert. 49 years ago today. I remember it quite clearly. How much tickets cost ($4.50, $5.50), where our seats were, the light show, the opening bands, thus spake zarathustra, the scene on the street. "If I told you all that went down it would burn off both your ears". 12/31/81 was my first New Years Eve Dead concert. Wild times. Thank you Ken Kesey. As for the quote "If you remember the 60s you weren't there", is inaccurate and misleading. And I love Robin Williams and Grace Slick. As for defective discs, some of you remember the 1972 Rolling Stone interview with Jerry Garcia when he talked about defective Skull and Roses vinyl that skipped and how it pissed him off. The Dead have always stood for high quality. Get it together Rhino. Happy New Years.

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    Was my second NYE, the first one I had any idea what was going on (first show 12/31/80), and it was and is one of my all time favorites.
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Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Was just wondering if any of you were able to obtain replacement discs yet for Vol.28. I send the Doctor an email on 10/29, and was told a replacement for my damaged disc 3 was on its way in 2-4 weeks, but nothing yet. Bummed.

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I caught Ghost Light at Lockn' this past August and they just came through last night. They put on an excellent show played 3.5 hours show, I would suggest catching them if they come your way.

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No, not yet, asked for replacements for Dave's 28 first, then the PNW discs second, got PNW discs but no word on the Dave's skipping discs yet.
Dead and Co. tickets on sale when? how much? went to their site and it sent me to a resale site, 82.00 for lawn? seriously?
on another note, have any of you heard about there being people at the shows who were given free tickets, that were put there by the band to promote them? to fill up the stadiums? I heard a weird rumor yesterday and just wanted to see if any of you had heard about this? say it's not true Bobby.

If you click on the "View" button to the side of the PM, it opens up the whole thread. From there near the top there is an option called "Delete Thread" that deletes the whole thing (probably just after sending a copy to the FBI, your mom and your first grade teacher).

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Jim - I've tried that and again, not working?.? The first thread on my pm page "deleted", still there on the list, but can't read anymore. Ones further down list say they've been deleted, but it's not true.

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I emailed Dr Rhino on 14th and 27th November but so far only had automated reply saying very busy and will respond within 5 days. I guess he must be snowed under with so many faulty disc complaints
I'm going to leave it another couple of weeks before chasing up again

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If you want to PM me the details, I'll check in with him; sorry for all the trouble with these CDs.
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mmmm…. that's going to hurt your run for Senate.

Have you tried rebooting your computer without saving your files? That one always works.

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Dr - thanks for the link for the 31 days, I saved the link from last year and it got me close, but yours got me there. First two days downloaded :-)

Jim - I've "deleted" a pm from my long list of old pm's. The field is the "view" column is blank, but the other info still there, you can't read it, but still taking up space on the PM list. I have logged off AND rebooted to no avail,,, oh well.

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My guess is, it's a bug and not working as expected.

Still.. this can't be good for your Senate run.

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Nobody visits this site anyway.

But you still have to reCAPTCHA.

Oh yeah, the previous ability to post anything on this site is why we had to start reCAPTCHAing in the first place.
Man, you demand change and then bitch when you get it......

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I am never bored with 1968.. and love Clementine.

The only issue with 1968 is.. can I hang on.

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I did a stupid thing online last week. In the early hours of the morning a message appeared on my lap top telling me that 3 viruses had been identified, and that I needed to counteract immediately. By paying £45.00, this firm said they would restore everything back to normal. Except they didn't, and requested a further payment, instead. I didn't pay that-but I did pay the first amount. I realised what I had done-been hacked-if that's the right word. Anyway, I managed to recoup my losses-luckily I paid by Paypal. I took my computer back to the shop for a proper clean up, and everything is okay again. I thought I was wise to things, too...

I agree that Clementine always sounded great when it was played. Other highlights of 1968, for me, are New Potato Caboose and the way China Cat goes into The Eleven.

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Sorry for the trouble, but glad you made it back to us.
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The 12/14/71 show is awesome. Great setlist, great performance, and strong audio quality. I jumped on the Albuquerque show when this came out, and never quite gave the December 14th show it's du ( largely because Dave's Picks 22 covered this ground well). The NFA => GDTRFB => NFA is real ass-kicker (the first NFA is 8 freakin' minutes).

Wow this robot protection thing cuts you off mid-sentence doesn't it. Doesn't even return You Back to the comment box automatically. You have to scroll and click not so easy on the cell phone driving. I have this sinking feeling that Daves picks 29 it's going to take a few days to sell out, maybe longer. I hope I'm wrong, but I really think that the message board traffic this site used to get generated a lot of sales. Maybe I'm wrong we'll see.

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I haven't been having the troubles other have using this site.. but I am a PC, not a phone user. I have pretty much gotten used to it, but ease of entry and maneuvering are not as clean. True with many upgrades, I guess.

I believe the 12/14 was a favorite of the keeper of the 71 flame, forensicdoceleven. I loved that release, too.. but in some regards, I am not that heard to please and the sonic upgrade for the Albuquerque show is a big deal. I enjoyed the latest 76 show a lot also. Both great releases.

Back to the upgrade and related problems.. the reason they even have these message boards is to fuel hype and guide sales, hopefully upward. The recent increase in disc quality issues combined with the upgrade will certainly have an effect, more likely on box sets than on Dave's Picks. If I were them I would Take A Step Back.. and rethink things. KayakGuy was correctly pushing for plangent processing for Dave's Picks a few months ago, they could roll that into the fold, better a better handle on quality assurance and try to correct the course into 2019/2020 and beyond.
oh.. and tone down the white just a tad.. oww, my eyeballs.. :D

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I too am still waiting for Dave's 28 Disc 3 replacement. Only have communicated with customer service & reply is basically still working on it. Hoping it will just show up or get an email. Will give it another week!

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SO sorry. You are not forgotten.
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Now on the Owsley Stanley Foundation website.

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At some point they will release another 1974 show in the Daves Picks series. I'm hoping for either June 23rd or July 25th, but I am predicting he goes with February 23rd. Possibly next year... but this prediction is good until the next 1974 release...

I'm really looking forward to the swing show in February. I'm rarely familiar with soundboards, but this one's been on my radar a long time. Even with the high number of releases we have from 1977, this one is still special. The time is moving slowly though...

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I feel like the lysergic is just kicking in or approaching the first scaleable peak, for the band, during this one. Soft and gentle, Jerry so patient choosing each note like it truly matters. Wow, what a thing this band was. Getting it on every level, it would take an army of Joseph Campbells to fully digest it and construct it with words. Words get in the way.

Saw Fleetwood Mac last night. There is other music, than the Dead - it's true. Nothing with the weight, but good stuff nonetheless. Mike Campbell was a treasure. God bless Tom Petty, just like Johnny Cash.

Yeah the new format is like Wal-mart with the fluorescents on 110%. Oh well. It is what it is.

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October 29th discover skip on Disc 3 Let it grow, become bummed, but hey it happens, (Had Disc 2 skip on 5/5/77 only other skip).... Send email to Dr. Rhino. Get auto response, busy get back in 5 days.... November 6th fill out form, glad i can find my order number...... November 13th "We will send out new disc allow 2 to 4 weeks to arrive........ December 5th "Sitting here in Limbo, but I know it Won't be Long"

..or does it read better as Lyceun Rum. 5/24 is a truly underrated show, as are so many from that magical tour. It has become my favorite stepchild, with a few close seconds like Lille, Munich and well.. so many others.

The Lyceum Run to my ears is a high water mark for the band. Like an exclamation point at end of a the sentence describing ones most exciting accomplishments. What a four show sequence and it has to be listened in it's entirety to understand how magnificent a run it was. Bickershaw might be the best stand-alone and The Lyceum the best run from the tour.

I guess the same could be true of other runs in their career, but.... that doesn't make it untrue. 5/24 might not be the best, but don't let that dissuade you from turning it up and enjoying the ride..

The second set takes on many forms and is quite compelling containing some brilliant passages, especially in TOO sequence. Powerful, explosive, atonal, pensive, passive, offensive and emotive at times. ..but don't overlook the first set. Right from the start it rocks and contains some of my more liked versions of China>Rider and PITB. Magically delicious.

It's been a while since I listened to the whole tour in sequence (well.. since Fall 2011>Winter 2012). I plan to do this in the spring.

"The Visine bottles came out, and the levels of LSD consumption went up..." Dennis McNally

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Hello Marye, I recently moved and when tracking delivery for Dave's 28 it showed it was delivered. I initially thought this was the fault of the post office, however after a little investigation it appears I forgot to notify dead.net about the address change and it was passed to point at which my mail was being forwarded. I waited, hoping my old mailman would take cafe of it but it certainly appears he did not. I've been very busy with the move and work so I haven't had a chance to address this in any way. I was just wondering if it was too late or if it was possible it was returned and is being held at Rhino or GDM. I 'm aware this is a completely self induced dilemma but I just thought I would reach out. Thank you

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Sssh I think we're alone now. Ok go.
1. Maggot Brain is as good an album as ever made but always overlooked. Why is that?

2. English rock and roll bands need to be heavily influenced by American music to get on my playlist. Eric Clapton. Stones. Beatles. Led Zeppelin. Ten Years After. John Mayall.

3. King Crimson couldn't play Johnny B. Good to save their lives.

4. Imagine by John Lennon is really awful. Most over rated song in history.

5. The Dali Lama is nothing more than Tibetan Buddhism's Pope. Think about it.

6. If Jim Morrison was ugly no one would have ever heard of The Doors.

7. Jerry Garcia is McCoy Tyner's right hand and Bob Weir is McCoy Tyner's left hand. It's uncanny how that so works.

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I overlooked Maggot Brain till a year or so ago, but the problem has been corrected. The title song was a revelation first time that I heard it, deeply gratifying. Now that you mentioned it, I feel like I am due for another listen.

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Glad the comments here alerted me to the upcoming Jorma and Jack release. Had the chance to see them in the mid to late '80s in Poughkeepsie, NY at the Chance. Cool show, cool venue - the Chance was an old opera house. There are times when some Hot Tuna really hits the spot.

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Possibly true that King Crimson can't play Johnny B. Good(e). But they can play something else. And I don't mean the Eddie Cochran song.

Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow was a great Funkadelic track, off the album of the same name. I haven't heard it-or them-for years-but I have just given it a spin. Still sounds seriously groovy-out there with attitude.

The Mothership Connection 1976

A fine DVD and only $9.99 at various online sellers.

I recommend you obtain one as a stocking stuffer for yourself.

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It just took me more than 10 reCAPTCHA exams on that last post.
And for one of the exams I had to select all 16 squares, the picture was a close up of a crosswalk.

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Get on up
Stay on the scene... yeah, James Brown hits the spot for sure. Currently listening to my Funk Box collection with faux red velvet cover, track 1, disc 1 - Get Up, James Brown. If you dig some funk and soul, the Funk Box may be for you, a definite mood lifter. Can't get enough of Express Yourself by Charles Wright, and when Aretha busts out Rock Steady, the big speakers just come alive with that bass line. Something different after listening to American Beauty earlier this evening.

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On BluRay audio.

Picked it up recently, just put it in the player, watched the bonus video, then went to the audio and jumped to No Quarter.
WOW!!!!
Sounds amazing!!!

Edit:
This is a new audio remix, released in 2018.
Says: “Blu-Ray mixed from the original multitracks”.

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This place has sure quieted down since the update I have noticed.

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Yea.. dead.

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I wonder why? If it was worth disagreeing with each other 6 months ago-surely its worth having a pop now. Its IS a bit white-but we have overcome worse. After all, we are the Dead.

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