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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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September 8, 2018 - 9:09pm

#1321

Vguy72

Joined:
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10.1.94's Space into Last Time....

....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
September 8, 2018 - 9:04pm

#1322

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Box

Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
September 8, 2018 - 9:03pm

#1323

MDJim

Joined:
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Double Post

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September 8, 2018 - 8:43pm

#1324

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

They say...

...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
September 8, 2018 - 8:37pm

#1325

MDJim

Joined:
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GD and OCD

I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
September 8, 2018 - 8:06pm

#1326

Vguy72

Joined:
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10.1.94's intro into Fire On The Mountain....

....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
September 8, 2018 - 7:49pm

#1327

Vguy72

Joined:
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OCD....

....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
September 8, 2018 - 7:36pm

#1328

LedDed

Joined:
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"Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."

I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
September 8, 2018 - 7:09pm

#1329

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

First world problems... yawn

This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
September 8, 2018 - 7:09pm

#1330

cheyler196

Joined:
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First songs from set

I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

Portland 73 Vocals & Mix

Hey Bob,
You are correct.. the vocal dropout is present on the master reels, so it occurred at the time the show was recorded. It's not your CD player or stereo.. it's baked into the source tapes. Unless we can get the band back to do some overdubs.. this is the best we are going to get.

I'm getting reports

that it's become impossible to post in this thread. If you are experiencing this, please send me a PM. Thanks!

Testing...

I seem to be able to post here.
I am using a PC.. not a phone. If that helps..

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Perhaps posting is down because the new site has no Feng Shui. … either that or they put the new web server on top of an ancient Indian burial site. Funky joujou.

I got through my second listen over the last couple weeks.. I enjoyed it more the second time through. There are some moments, especially in '74 that really soar. Wish it had a Morning Dew and a To Lay Me Down, but other than that.. great recordings and solid performances from a special period of Good Ole Grateful Dead.

Spinning 6-26-73 now

Did 2 or 3 spins of the Box when I first got it then set it aside for a while. Now going through it again.
Really like all of it, but 6-22-73 may be my favorite.

Those '74 Eyes Of The World

Completely with you on these Jimbo. From the first one at Winterland in February to the last one at Winterland in October. Plus that one in August of 75. Every one of them is its own little adventure. Jerry was really on top of his game. They weren't quite as developed in 73 and they became a different beast by 76 ( although they would capture the 74 feel once in awhile, that New Year's show at Cow Palace is a good example). I just did the 30 Trips Around the Sun 1974 version of it from Dijon France. Great stuff. If I had to pick one little known version, I would go with Daves picks 17 from Selland Arena. That one is in my top five.

Sirius and Pac Northwest 73/74 box

Love all 6 shows and the box set... I have played it a lot since I received it.... I listen to Sirius a lot in the car between meetings. Any one else notice how much they are playing the 6 shows from this box??? I have never noticed a release played as much as this has.... Just an observation. Have a good weekend everyone!!!! Bob t

Eyes of the World

I played 18th September 1974 Paris earlier this week, too-and-and agree-beautiful Eyes. I too enjoy the 1974 Eyes more than other years-with 1973 coming a close second. Incidentally-slight vocal drop out again on a couple of songs-I wonder if this was a feature of 74 shows?

I have also just been listening to the second set 0f Omaha 5th July 1978 second set-and the Estimated-Eyes jam there is superbly played. They always seemed to play it a tad to quickly for me from 1976 onwards-but this one hits the spot. Excellent tone on Jerrys guitar, and nice jazz chords towards the end of the jam. I also liked Phil's solo leading into drums. This is a show completely off my radar-maybe overshadowed in my mind by the big hitters-7th and 8th July- to come? A bit like so many of the Europe 72 shows, something of a hidden gem. All box sets have nuggets in them that I can initially overlook through the sheer volume of music available and from me focussing on the best -or best known- shows in the collection.

'73 Redux

I would go so far as to welcome an official release of 2/9/93, Maples Pavilion, Stanford.

It's far from the best of the '73, and if I am correct.. they blew out the PA at some point in the first set, causing some major technical anomalies.. and the performance is far from the top 10. Still, it's unique, quite good and bordering on historical. They Eyes of the World (the first and into China Doll), is what made me think to write this, is unique. A lobbing, meandering, bit of a art in progress. The China Rider is noteworthy also.

It's a classic.. and back to the Eyes.. what a great way to welcome in the Wake of the Flood material. Seven new songs that night. P.S. I loathe Wave That Flag, sorry to all that like that song, simply doesn't resonate with me.

A very good evening in Palo Alto and I think release worthy.

The next five or so years will be 73 heavy. I'm ok with that.

I'm also ok with heavy '73…

I'm also ok with heavy '73-ness in the upcoming years. Would also like the 2nd half of '72 in there and the two '74 Dark Star shows that have yet to be released.

I didn't care for U.S. Blues for a very long time, and then I saw that crowd shot from the Grateful Dead Movie where they're singing along from the first few rows, going nutso. Then I thought whoa, steady boy...what did you miss here? And then when DaP 13 came out, I got into that particular version. There's something about that one I like, but not too many others capture it (whatever "it" is). I think the Road Trips '74 version was the other one. I don't care much for the post-hiatus versions at all. From '76, I find Road Trips 4.5 and DL Series pretty good, but for the most part everything attractive about the tune is lost in the post-hiatus polish (1, 2 buckle-my-shoe). But I know what you mean Jimbo - I can't get into One More Saturday Night from any era.

The China Cat Sun Rider's from '73 / '74 are also high on my list of go to songs for that era.

1974 Ultimate Show

Ok, I love all of 1974... released but not really is September 11, 1974 Alexandra Palace. What i think sums up the whole year, especially the Europe show is this follow sequence. Ok the end of the first set, Playing in the Band, 23.24 minutes.... Followed by Phil and Ned at 11.39 minutes, pure Phil and Ned.... Here is where it gets awesome, Seastones at 30.40 minutes with lots of Jerry early on, around 23 minutes you can here Eyes of the World!! The 18.03 Eyes with Ned playing electric piano is just sooooo good. Then 3.07 minutes of Stronger than Dirt into a 13.10 minute Wharf Rat.... So 1 hour and forty minutes of pure Jazzy 1974 Bliss...

The 1974 Travesty

Yes, they butchered Dicks Picks 7. One of my early favorite releases (add 12 to the same list).. it suffers horribly from the chop job they did. They seemed to really like to tear up 1974, the WOS road trips was similarly butchered. I would have enjoyed getting those three shows as a box set.

It is true that 1974 suffers from not always having continuous flow and an inconsistent set structure.. but we would have benefited from the full show treatment. That Dark Star > Morning Dew from the night before resonates, glows and smolders like an erupting volcano.

On fire!

No puns intended. 4/21/72, they bust into "The Other One," with a ferocity seldom heard. Beat Club, Bremen, West Germany. There's so much about that tour that is just mind melting and this is a prime example.

I love the 1973, 1974, 1976 stuff, and I've been dipping into that lately as well, and then this came on.

Just... holy shit.

\m/

73 jams

12-10-73 from the download series has a lovely, long and liquidy 20 min. Playin' to close out the 1st set. It would make for an excellent side on a Record Store Day release someday.

The more I listen, the more I love long and liquidy Playin's, and Eyes. Those two stand right up there with Dark Stars and Other Ones as jam vehicles.

Also, wanted to note that I, like a lot of you, found that several of my discs from this box don't play cleanly. However, I've found that in every case they ripped cleanly, and the digital files play just fine. So that's just how I've listened. If you're having trouble with getting replacement discs, try that.

Peace Out

Agree with Jim on 1974

Jim not only 9/9, 9/10, 9/11, but all 5 of the October Winterland shows. (August 4,5,6) and ( June 16, and 18), and (June 26 and June 28).. So 15 out of 40 possible shows were released but not the whole shows!! Let's hope for a future release of Europe 74, or the October 74 Winterland complete shows!!

Complete October of '74 Winterland?

That would sell out about as quick as GSTL!

Replace Your Face

I have said it before, the complete 10/74 recordings need to be released. It will right a wrong that was perpetrated as early as 1976 .

Grammy Nod For PNW Box

Congrats! It's a beautiful box. Good job Roy Henry Vickers and art directors Lisa Glines and Doran Tyson!

With such an overload of music this past few years of releases, I still haven't dug deeply into this one, though have listened to all of the shows a couple of times. Have only listened to Dave's Picks 28 once through so far and that ones cool too. Dave's Picks 27 blew my mind so much and can't wait to get back around to that one as well. I seem to be locked into the anniversary listening program, so once those have been exhausted, will get right back to the newer releases.

As per usual, I place my regular requests for the following to be released....in no particular order...

Alpine '89 Complete
4/1/91
6/16 & 17/91
6/22/91
9/ 4 thru 6/91
9/26/91
10/31/91
12/8 & 9/90
12/12 thru 14/90
Anything and everything '89, including Alpine Valley
7/29/88
Anything and everything from Fall/Winter '88
6/25/88
7/2/88
Red Rocks '87....well pretty much every Red Rocks run...

...and way way too many more to list for now.

Great Snakes!

Hilarious spam ... "Snake Oysters" indeed

Re: Great Snakes / Spammer

Looks like they nuked the spammer and his thread. I'm impressed...

Stumbled into Missoula '74 yesterday on my drive home. Really enjoying the quantity and quality of Weather Report Suites I have been listening to lately. The box is not behind me yet.. still much to enjoy.

Have a great weekend all.. happy holidays. Time to start getting festive.

yeah well

sometimes I sleep, but when I wake up I nuke the spam...

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With regard to 10/74 Winterland complete release proposition, I would buy it of course, and hope for a better mix than the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack (there's something not quite right with the drums - they're way too boomy for my liking). But that being said, I'd rather see the release of other stuff first, in light of the fact that close to half of that Winterland run has been released (granted, the mix on Steal Your Face leaves a lot to be desired). Here is what has not been released of those shows:

OCTOBER 16

Bertha
Jack Straw
Tennessee Jed
Cumberland Blues
Deal
Me and Bobby McGee
It Must Have Been the Roses
Mexicali Blues
Row Jimmy
Beat it on Down the Line
Ship of Fools
Wharf Rat
Eyes of the World
Big River
Truckin'
Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
Uncle John's Band
Johnny B. Goode
U.S. Blues

OCTOBER 17

Promised Land
Mississippi Half-Step
Black-Throated Wind
Friend of the Devil
Jack Straw
Loser
El Paso
Me and My Uncle
Scarlet Begonias
Big River
Ramble on Rose
Mexicali Blues
U.S. Blues

OCTOBER 18

Around and Around
Mexicali Blues
Peggy-O
Brown Eyed Women
Cumberland Blues
El Paso
Tennessee Jed
Jack Straw
Row Jimmy
Promised Land
Bertha
Greatest Story Ever Told
One More Saturday Night

OCTOBER 19

Me and My Uncle
Friend of the Devil
Beat it on Down the Line
It Must Have Been the Roses
Loose Lucy
To Lay Me Down
Mama Tried
The Race is On
Mexicali Blues
Dire Wolf
Sugar Magnolia

OCTOBER 20

Mama Tried
Deal
Beat it on Down the Line
Loser
Jack Straw
Tennessee Jed
El Paso
Brokedown Palace
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Good Lovin'
It Must Have Been the Roses
Eyes of the World
Sugar Magnolia

Or if you want to see how many versions of each song have not been released from the October '74 Winterland run:

1 Around and Around
1 Black-Throated Wind
1 Brokedown Palace
1 Brown Eyed Women
1 China Cat Sunflower >
1 Dire Wolf
1 Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
1 Good Lovin'
1 Greatest Story Ever Told
1 I Know You Rider
1 Johnny B. Goode
1 Loose Lucy
1 Me and Bobby McGee
1 Mississippi Half-Step
1 One More Saturday Night
1 Peggy-O
1 Ramble on Rose
1 Scarlet Begonias
1 Ship of Fools
1 The Race is On
1 To Lay Me Down
1 Truckin'
1 Uncle John's Band
1 Wharf Rat
2 Bertha
2 Big River
2 Cumberland Blues
2 Deal
2 Eyes of the World
2 Friend of the Devil
2 Loser
2 Mama Tried
2 Me and My Uncle
2 Promised Land
2 Row Jimmy
2 Sugar Magnolia
2 U.S. Blues
3 Beat it on Down the Line
3 El Paso
3 It Must Have Been the Roses
3 Tennessee Jed
4 Jack Straw
4 Mexicali Blues

10/74 box

Reading the list below, maybe its not such a good idea after all.

10/74

I still think it's a good idea, but who knows how it would sell.

..circling back to the original thought of this thread.. a re-release of the three show London set would be interesting.. especially since Dicks Picks 7 has been out of print for so long. Again, some wouldn't buy it if they already have DiP7 but some of the omitted material from these shows would shine if they ever gave them the full show treatment. What makes the October run compelling is that the recorded it in multi-track, albeit slightly flawed multi-track.

Thank god they are not doing that anymore.. it's good to see the more recent 74 shows get released in their entirety.. even if it means we have to read the occasional complaint when the mix jumps off the tracks for a song or four.

Got an email from someone that frequents this site praising 12/18/73 this morning. Another great show from this era and certain to be released one day, hopefully soon. That's a monster of a show.

10/74

kinda like been there, done that. Maybe after they release the rest, then we can talk about re releasing released releases.

Vancouver Island

I've only just gotten around to putting on the Listening Party. Sounds like we only need to camp out on the southern tip of Vancouver Island and wait for Lemieux to show up. To request shows of course.

He's talking up the part of He's Gone that I'm not into at all - Phil's baritone vocals at the end. I'm am quite probably the only person who has logged 50,000 hours of Dead music and thinks the first three versions of He's Gone from Europe '72 are the best three (before the Winds Don't Blow So Strange bridge). Quite possibly because one of those (Rockin' The Rhein) was the only one I knew for several years.

Vancouver Island

Wonderful place.. if you haven't visited, consider it at some point. Wild Pacific Trail, Gulf Islands, Tofino.. what an incredible place.

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I order one Box, proceed to checkout, then “edit” my order by increasing the amount of Boxes I am ordering. Eventually I receive an error message that tells me the amount I ordered is not available so I zero in on the maximum amount I can order. Once I figure that out I cancel the entire order.

BTW, while I don’t post often I’m a big fan of your posts!

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Lovemygirl

I'm replying to your PMs about the Grateful Dead Europe 72 CDs. Do u still have them for sale?

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Lovemygirl

Hey I just wanted to say that I'm not going to be online after today until after New Year's. I saw that you left about half a dozen messages in my inbox about the Europe 72 CDs. I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't ignoring you, I just haven't been online. And now I'm not sure if IMs are working, since my entire backlog of messages has been overwritten.

I am okay at this point, but I have a buddy who's interested if you're still selling them.

Changing the topic slightly. Some good news for you it sounds like. From the discussion board comments, it looks like you and your wife reconciled, I'm happy to hear that and hope you're feeling better. That sounded like a pretty tough break, but love conquers all my friend!

The Dead-David Lynch?

I have been watching episodes from the third series of Twin Peaks over the last day or so, and I couldn't help noticing that the wall hangings in the motel look as though they may have been designed by Roy Henry Vickers. He was , of course, the artist responsible for the incredible art work on this box. Interesting connection between David Lynch and the Dead, if its true.

This third series is amazing, too. I have seen some weird shit in my time-but this takes the proverbial biscuit.

Is that a Mini-Moog?

Been loving this set of six shows. No question Plangent processing is the bees knees for these old reels!!

What act of Congress would be required to Plangent-ize all of the analog reels chosen for release?!?!?!!
Woe to those who do not Plangent Process The Swing.

I've only recently been hearing this haunting keys pre-synth non-piano sound. While I have no data to reference, I'm wildly speculating that is the mini-moog. Anybody else hear that?

Happy Holidaze and Jerry Christmas!!!

Portland, 5/17/1974

Hello Dead Heads;
I would like to know if anyone out there that has purchase the Pacific Northwest box set had the same problem that I have had. The 5/17/74 Portland show, Disc 11 first track "Promised Land" problem. About 28 seconds into the song the singing and music stops and all you hear is the drums and then a complete stop and start up withe the sound gradually increasing and the song finishes. This is the only problem with the complete box set. I have received two replacement disc from Rhino, "Thanks" and they all have the same problem. Have I missed something in the post. Thanks and Keep on Trucking into the New Year.
Peace & Love
Steve

Promised Land dropout?

Big Steve--

That is not a disc issue, that is just a flaw in the original masters from the show.

Nothing you can do about it but smile, smile, smile.

Happy NYE Deadland - what show's lined up for tonight?

We gave my buddy the PNW vinyl for Christmas, he was thrilled with it, but probably never make it out of the shrink wrap. The majority of his DaPs are still in their shrink wrap and he may even have a Dick's not unwrapped as well. He procrastinated on the DaP subscription so he'll probably be SOL on those wonderful releases.

I know some of you are tuning into the Phish NYE but was wondering what else people are lining up for NYE?

Doing a quiet affair - some early Thai food and maybe do an early celebration so my daughter can have fun - then I'll probably don the headphones for some quality listening party for some NYE show. Leaning towards Cow Palace but closing of Winterland could be in order or both.

Sorry I've been away, just waiting for the white background to be tie dyed or some trippy fractals grooving across the screen. Hope you're all well.

Can't wait to see what get's released during the 50th of the Live Dead era - maybe re-release the FW box or some more of those shows on vinyl? Anyways should be a banner year. Still loving this boxset!

Thanks for the Follow up

Hello Jack;
Thanks for your response. Wasn't sure if this was a faulty disc or a recording problem. i did not see it mentioned anywhere including David's Seashore comments. I thought I may have missed it somewhere. I should not complain considering all the great stuff GD is putting out there and with Rhino's help. Happy New Year to you.

Happy Trails.
Steve

What discs to check?

Ok, I am really just now getting around to listening to the PNW box set...Really pressed for time, what discs are people getting skips on?

So far I've identified a skip on disc 1 from 6/22/73 Jack Straw skips in the middle

disc 1 from 5/21/74, "The Race Is On" seems to have some crackling or something on it towards the end when I play it back...

Where are others seeing problems>?

PNW 5/19/74 first disk vocal tracks

"Hello,
I purchased pacific northwest when it was first released
I had not had a chance to listen to all the shows yet.
On the first disk of 5/19/1974 half way through sugaree the vocal track completely drops out.
The rest of the disk to the end is the same way (no vocal track).
Is this a source tape issue or a production issue?
At one point (during Mexicali I think ) there is basically nothing but a drum track.
I tried to look around on the site but have not been able to find the answer.
Please advise."

Above is the e-mail I sent to customer service.
They didn't answer my question they just sent a reply about how to do a return.
Does anyone know if this a source tape issue?
I have attempted to return something once before and it was a complete nightmare that went on for almost a year.
I would rather live with one screwed up disk than to battle with them for an extended period of time.

Portland Vocal Drops Outs

Yes.. this is an issue with the master reels. It's there for the better part of four songs. Unless we can convince Garcia to come back and do some vocal overdubs.. it is what it is.

Thank you

Thank you for the info!

Software for streaming recommendations, please.

I am looking for software, that will allow me to listen to archive.org and other music sites. I want to skip that "hiccup" as China moves into Rider, as is switches tracks. Any ideas?

thanks

Archive Hiccups

Yes.. there is that tempo busting pause in between songs. It doesn't bother me much as I mainly use the arrive to scout out shows and if I like them, I find a way to get an electronic copy. Most do circulate..

Then again, the fade out at the end of a CD and the fade in on the subsequent CD doesn't really bother either and that's how they treat official releases when the jam absolutely has to stretch out between two CDs (thinking the Dark Star > The Other One on Dicks Picks 4 (one of the greatest releases of all time) for example....

Check your PM, I do have some thoughts.

Hiccups

I think that is a fact of streaming, but I don’t know for sure since I don’t stream.
My car stereo does it too when playing from a usb flash drive.
There is a music player app that plays the archive, but I don’t know it’s name and I don’t know if it has gapless playback.

gaps between tracks

I call them the curse of the mp3's and other tightly compressed (audio) files.
I wish I knew of a way to get around this "ouch" problem, so I could offer you a solution, so that's why I like pressed CDs.

Gapless playback

My music player does it and so does my 60 GB iPod Classic.
It’s a software issue, the software just has to know to fuse the tracks together. But not all software has been programmed to do it.

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