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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Mr. Pete
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    I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
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    Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
  • Vguy72
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    ....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
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    Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
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    Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
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    First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
  • KeithFan2112
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    On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
  • Sixtus_
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    Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
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    It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

Hey Bob,
You are correct.. the vocal dropout is present on the master reels, so it occurred at the time the show was recorded. It's not your CD player or stereo.. it's baked into the source tapes. Unless we can get the band back to do some overdubs.. this is the best we are going to get.

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that it's become impossible to post in this thread. If you are experiencing this, please send me a PM. Thanks!

I seem to be able to post here.
I am using a PC.. not a phone. If that helps..

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Perhaps posting is down because the new site has no Feng Shui. … either that or they put the new web server on top of an ancient Indian burial site. Funky joujou.

I got through my second listen over the last couple weeks.. I enjoyed it more the second time through. There are some moments, especially in '74 that really soar. Wish it had a Morning Dew and a To Lay Me Down, but other than that.. great recordings and solid performances from a special period of Good Ole Grateful Dead.

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Did 2 or 3 spins of the Box when I first got it then set it aside for a while. Now going through it again.
Really like all of it, but 6-22-73 may be my favorite.

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Completely with you on these Jimbo. From the first one at Winterland in February to the last one at Winterland in October. Plus that one in August of 75. Every one of them is its own little adventure. Jerry was really on top of his game. They weren't quite as developed in 73 and they became a different beast by 76 ( although they would capture the 74 feel once in awhile, that New Year's show at Cow Palace is a good example). I just did the 30 Trips Around the Sun 1974 version of it from Dijon France. Great stuff. If I had to pick one little known version, I would go with Daves picks 17 from Selland Arena. That one is in my top five.

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Love all 6 shows and the box set... I have played it a lot since I received it.... I listen to Sirius a lot in the car between meetings. Any one else notice how much they are playing the 6 shows from this box??? I have never noticed a release played as much as this has.... Just an observation. Have a good weekend everyone!!!! Bob t

I played 18th September 1974 Paris earlier this week, too-and-and agree-beautiful Eyes. I too enjoy the 1974 Eyes more than other years-with 1973 coming a close second. Incidentally-slight vocal drop out again on a couple of songs-I wonder if this was a feature of 74 shows?

I have also just been listening to the second set 0f Omaha 5th July 1978 second set-and the Estimated-Eyes jam there is superbly played. They always seemed to play it a tad to quickly for me from 1976 onwards-but this one hits the spot. Excellent tone on Jerrys guitar, and nice jazz chords towards the end of the jam. I also liked Phil's solo leading into drums. This is a show completely off my radar-maybe overshadowed in my mind by the big hitters-7th and 8th July- to come? A bit like so many of the Europe 72 shows, something of a hidden gem. All box sets have nuggets in them that I can initially overlook through the sheer volume of music available and from me focussing on the best -or best known- shows in the collection.

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I would go so far as to welcome an official release of 2/9/93, Maples Pavilion, Stanford.

It's far from the best of the '73, and if I am correct.. they blew out the PA at some point in the first set, causing some major technical anomalies.. and the performance is far from the top 10. Still, it's unique, quite good and bordering on historical. They Eyes of the World (the first and into China Doll), is what made me think to write this, is unique. A lobbing, meandering, bit of a art in progress. The China Rider is noteworthy also.

It's a classic.. and back to the Eyes.. what a great way to welcome in the Wake of the Flood material. Seven new songs that night. P.S. I loathe Wave That Flag, sorry to all that like that song, simply doesn't resonate with me.

A very good evening in Palo Alto and I think release worthy.

The next five or so years will be 73 heavy. I'm ok with that.

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I'm also ok with heavy '73-ness in the upcoming years. Would also like the 2nd half of '72 in there and the two '74 Dark Star shows that have yet to be released.

I didn't care for U.S. Blues for a very long time, and then I saw that crowd shot from the Grateful Dead Movie where they're singing along from the first few rows, going nutso. Then I thought whoa, steady boy...what did you miss here? And then when DaP 13 came out, I got into that particular version. There's something about that one I like, but not too many others capture it (whatever "it" is). I think the Road Trips '74 version was the other one. I don't care much for the post-hiatus versions at all. From '76, I find Road Trips 4.5 and DL Series pretty good, but for the most part everything attractive about the tune is lost in the post-hiatus polish (1, 2 buckle-my-shoe). But I know what you mean Jimbo - I can't get into One More Saturday Night from any era.

The China Cat Sun Rider's from '73 / '74 are also high on my list of go to songs for that era.

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Ok, I love all of 1974... released but not really is September 11, 1974 Alexandra Palace. What i think sums up the whole year, especially the Europe show is this follow sequence. Ok the end of the first set, Playing in the Band, 23.24 minutes.... Followed by Phil and Ned at 11.39 minutes, pure Phil and Ned.... Here is where it gets awesome, Seastones at 30.40 minutes with lots of Jerry early on, around 23 minutes you can here Eyes of the World!! The 18.03 Eyes with Ned playing electric piano is just sooooo good. Then 3.07 minutes of Stronger than Dirt into a 13.10 minute Wharf Rat.... So 1 hour and forty minutes of pure Jazzy 1974 Bliss...

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Yes, they butchered Dicks Picks 7. One of my early favorite releases (add 12 to the same list).. it suffers horribly from the chop job they did. They seemed to really like to tear up 1974, the WOS road trips was similarly butchered. I would have enjoyed getting those three shows as a box set.

It is true that 1974 suffers from not always having continuous flow and an inconsistent set structure.. but we would have benefited from the full show treatment. That Dark Star > Morning Dew from the night before resonates, glows and smolders like an erupting volcano.

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No puns intended. 4/21/72, they bust into "The Other One," with a ferocity seldom heard. Beat Club, Bremen, West Germany. There's so much about that tour that is just mind melting and this is a prime example.

I love the 1973, 1974, 1976 stuff, and I've been dipping into that lately as well, and then this came on.

Just... holy shit.

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12-10-73 from the download series has a lovely, long and liquidy 20 min. Playin' to close out the 1st set. It would make for an excellent side on a Record Store Day release someday.

The more I listen, the more I love long and liquidy Playin's, and Eyes. Those two stand right up there with Dark Stars and Other Ones as jam vehicles.

Also, wanted to note that I, like a lot of you, found that several of my discs from this box don't play cleanly. However, I've found that in every case they ripped cleanly, and the digital files play just fine. So that's just how I've listened. If you're having trouble with getting replacement discs, try that.

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Jim not only 9/9, 9/10, 9/11, but all 5 of the October Winterland shows. (August 4,5,6) and ( June 16, and 18), and (June 26 and June 28).. So 15 out of 40 possible shows were released but not the whole shows!! Let's hope for a future release of Europe 74, or the October 74 Winterland complete shows!!

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I have said it before, the complete 10/74 recordings need to be released. It will right a wrong that was perpetrated as early as 1976 .

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Congrats! It's a beautiful box. Good job Roy Henry Vickers and art directors Lisa Glines and Doran Tyson!

With such an overload of music this past few years of releases, I still haven't dug deeply into this one, though have listened to all of the shows a couple of times. Have only listened to Dave's Picks 28 once through so far and that ones cool too. Dave's Picks 27 blew my mind so much and can't wait to get back around to that one as well. I seem to be locked into the anniversary listening program, so once those have been exhausted, will get right back to the newer releases.

As per usual, I place my regular requests for the following to be released....in no particular order...

Alpine '89 Complete
4/1/91
6/16 & 17/91
6/22/91
9/ 4 thru 6/91
9/26/91
10/31/91
12/8 & 9/90
12/12 thru 14/90
Anything and everything '89, including Alpine Valley
7/29/88
Anything and everything from Fall/Winter '88
6/25/88
7/2/88
Red Rocks '87....well pretty much every Red Rocks run...

...and way way too many more to list for now.

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Looks like they nuked the spammer and his thread. I'm impressed...

Stumbled into Missoula '74 yesterday on my drive home. Really enjoying the quantity and quality of Weather Report Suites I have been listening to lately. The box is not behind me yet.. still much to enjoy.

Have a great weekend all.. happy holidays. Time to start getting festive.

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2,395 Boxes left.

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how do you know how many boxes are left?

With regard to 10/74 Winterland complete release proposition, I would buy it of course, and hope for a better mix than the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack (there's something not quite right with the drums - they're way too boomy for my liking). But that being said, I'd rather see the release of other stuff first, in light of the fact that close to half of that Winterland run has been released (granted, the mix on Steal Your Face leaves a lot to be desired). Here is what has not been released of those shows:

OCTOBER 16

Bertha
Jack Straw
Tennessee Jed
Cumberland Blues
Deal
Me and Bobby McGee
It Must Have Been the Roses
Mexicali Blues
Row Jimmy
Beat it on Down the Line
Ship of Fools
Wharf Rat
Eyes of the World
Big River
Truckin'
Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
Uncle John's Band
Johnny B. Goode
U.S. Blues

OCTOBER 17

Promised Land
Mississippi Half-Step
Black-Throated Wind
Friend of the Devil
Jack Straw
Loser
El Paso
Me and My Uncle
Scarlet Begonias
Big River
Ramble on Rose
Mexicali Blues
U.S. Blues

OCTOBER 18

Around and Around
Mexicali Blues
Peggy-O
Brown Eyed Women
Cumberland Blues
El Paso
Tennessee Jed
Jack Straw
Row Jimmy
Promised Land
Bertha
Greatest Story Ever Told
One More Saturday Night

OCTOBER 19

Me and My Uncle
Friend of the Devil
Beat it on Down the Line
It Must Have Been the Roses
Loose Lucy
To Lay Me Down
Mama Tried
The Race is On
Mexicali Blues
Dire Wolf
Sugar Magnolia

OCTOBER 20

Mama Tried
Deal
Beat it on Down the Line
Loser
Jack Straw
Tennessee Jed
El Paso
Brokedown Palace
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Good Lovin'
It Must Have Been the Roses
Eyes of the World
Sugar Magnolia

Or if you want to see how many versions of each song have not been released from the October '74 Winterland run:

1 Around and Around
1 Black-Throated Wind
1 Brokedown Palace
1 Brown Eyed Women
1 China Cat Sunflower >
1 Dire Wolf
1 Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
1 Good Lovin'
1 Greatest Story Ever Told
1 I Know You Rider
1 Johnny B. Goode
1 Loose Lucy
1 Me and Bobby McGee
1 Mississippi Half-Step
1 One More Saturday Night
1 Peggy-O
1 Ramble on Rose
1 Scarlet Begonias
1 Ship of Fools
1 The Race is On
1 To Lay Me Down
1 Truckin'
1 Uncle John's Band
1 Wharf Rat
2 Bertha
2 Big River
2 Cumberland Blues
2 Deal
2 Eyes of the World
2 Friend of the Devil
2 Loser
2 Mama Tried
2 Me and My Uncle
2 Promised Land
2 Row Jimmy
2 Sugar Magnolia
2 U.S. Blues
3 Beat it on Down the Line
3 El Paso
3 It Must Have Been the Roses
3 Tennessee Jed
4 Jack Straw
4 Mexicali Blues

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Reading the list below, maybe its not such a good idea after all.

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I still think it's a good idea, but who knows how it would sell.

..circling back to the original thought of this thread.. a re-release of the three show London set would be interesting.. especially since Dicks Picks 7 has been out of print for so long. Again, some wouldn't buy it if they already have DiP7 but some of the omitted material from these shows would shine if they ever gave them the full show treatment. What makes the October run compelling is that the recorded it in multi-track, albeit slightly flawed multi-track.

Thank god they are not doing that anymore.. it's good to see the more recent 74 shows get released in their entirety.. even if it means we have to read the occasional complaint when the mix jumps off the tracks for a song or four.

Got an email from someone that frequents this site praising 12/18/73 this morning. Another great show from this era and certain to be released one day, hopefully soon. That's a monster of a show.

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kinda like been there, done that. Maybe after they release the rest, then we can talk about re releasing released releases.

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I've only just gotten around to putting on the Listening Party. Sounds like we only need to camp out on the southern tip of Vancouver Island and wait for Lemieux to show up. To request shows of course.

He's talking up the part of He's Gone that I'm not into at all - Phil's baritone vocals at the end. I'm am quite probably the only person who has logged 50,000 hours of Dead music and thinks the first three versions of He's Gone from Europe '72 are the best three (before the Winds Don't Blow So Strange bridge). Quite possibly because one of those (Rockin' The Rhein) was the only one I knew for several years.

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Wonderful place.. if you haven't visited, consider it at some point. Wild Pacific Trail, Gulf Islands, Tofino.. what an incredible place.

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Keithfan,
I order one Box, proceed to checkout, then “edit” my order by increasing the amount of Boxes I am ordering. Eventually I receive an error message that tells me the amount I ordered is not available so I zero in on the maximum amount I can order. Once I figure that out I cancel the entire order.

BTW, while I don’t post often I’m a big fan of your posts!

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Just checked, 2,331 Boxes left.

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I'm replying to your PMs about the Grateful Dead Europe 72 CDs. Do u still have them for sale?

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Hey I just wanted to say that I'm not going to be online after today until after New Year's. I saw that you left about half a dozen messages in my inbox about the Europe 72 CDs. I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't ignoring you, I just haven't been online. And now I'm not sure if IMs are working, since my entire backlog of messages has been overwritten.

I am okay at this point, but I have a buddy who's interested if you're still selling them.

Changing the topic slightly. Some good news for you it sounds like. From the discussion board comments, it looks like you and your wife reconciled, I'm happy to hear that and hope you're feeling better. That sounded like a pretty tough break, but love conquers all my friend!

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I have been watching episodes from the third series of Twin Peaks over the last day or so, and I couldn't help noticing that the wall hangings in the motel look as though they may have been designed by Roy Henry Vickers. He was , of course, the artist responsible for the incredible art work on this box. Interesting connection between David Lynch and the Dead, if its true.

This third series is amazing, too. I have seen some weird shit in my time-but this takes the proverbial biscuit.

Been loving this set of six shows. No question Plangent processing is the bees knees for these old reels!!

What act of Congress would be required to Plangent-ize all of the analog reels chosen for release?!?!?!!
Woe to those who do not Plangent Process The Swing.

I've only recently been hearing this haunting keys pre-synth non-piano sound. While I have no data to reference, I'm wildly speculating that is the mini-moog. Anybody else hear that?

Happy Holidaze and Jerry Christmas!!!

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Hello Dead Heads;
I would like to know if anyone out there that has purchase the Pacific Northwest box set had the same problem that I have had. The 5/17/74 Portland show, Disc 11 first track "Promised Land" problem. About 28 seconds into the song the singing and music stops and all you hear is the drums and then a complete stop and start up withe the sound gradually increasing and the song finishes. This is the only problem with the complete box set. I have received two replacement disc from Rhino, "Thanks" and they all have the same problem. Have I missed something in the post. Thanks and Keep on Trucking into the New Year.
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Big Steve--

That is not a disc issue, that is just a flaw in the original masters from the show.

Nothing you can do about it but smile, smile, smile.

We gave my buddy the PNW vinyl for Christmas, he was thrilled with it, but probably never make it out of the shrink wrap. The majority of his DaPs are still in their shrink wrap and he may even have a Dick's not unwrapped as well. He procrastinated on the DaP subscription so he'll probably be SOL on those wonderful releases.

I know some of you are tuning into the Phish NYE but was wondering what else people are lining up for NYE?

Doing a quiet affair - some early Thai food and maybe do an early celebration so my daughter can have fun - then I'll probably don the headphones for some quality listening party for some NYE show. Leaning towards Cow Palace but closing of Winterland could be in order or both.

Sorry I've been away, just waiting for the white background to be tie dyed or some trippy fractals grooving across the screen. Hope you're all well.

Can't wait to see what get's released during the 50th of the Live Dead era - maybe re-release the FW box or some more of those shows on vinyl? Anyways should be a banner year. Still loving this boxset!

Hello Jack;
Thanks for your response. Wasn't sure if this was a faulty disc or a recording problem. i did not see it mentioned anywhere including David's Seashore comments. I thought I may have missed it somewhere. I should not complain considering all the great stuff GD is putting out there and with Rhino's help. Happy New Year to you.

Happy Trails.
Steve

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Ok, I am really just now getting around to listening to the PNW box set...Really pressed for time, what discs are people getting skips on?

So far I've identified a skip on disc 1 from 6/22/73 Jack Straw skips in the middle

disc 1 from 5/21/74, "The Race Is On" seems to have some crackling or something on it towards the end when I play it back...

Where are others seeing problems>?

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"Hello,
I purchased pacific northwest when it was first released
I had not had a chance to listen to all the shows yet.
On the first disk of 5/19/1974 half way through sugaree the vocal track completely drops out.
The rest of the disk to the end is the same way (no vocal track).
Is this a source tape issue or a production issue?
At one point (during Mexicali I think ) there is basically nothing but a drum track.
I tried to look around on the site but have not been able to find the answer.
Please advise."

Above is the e-mail I sent to customer service.
They didn't answer my question they just sent a reply about how to do a return.
Does anyone know if this a source tape issue?
I have attempted to return something once before and it was a complete nightmare that went on for almost a year.
I would rather live with one screwed up disk than to battle with them for an extended period of time.

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I am looking for software, that will allow me to listen to archive.org and other music sites. I want to skip that "hiccup" as China moves into Rider, as is switches tracks. Any ideas?

thanks

Yes.. there is that tempo busting pause in between songs. It doesn't bother me much as I mainly use the arrive to scout out shows and if I like them, I find a way to get an electronic copy. Most do circulate..

Then again, the fade out at the end of a CD and the fade in on the subsequent CD doesn't really bother either and that's how they treat official releases when the jam absolutely has to stretch out between two CDs (thinking the Dark Star > The Other One on Dicks Picks 4 (one of the greatest releases of all time) for example....

Check your PM, I do have some thoughts.

I think that is a fact of streaming, but I don’t know for sure since I don’t stream.
My car stereo does it too when playing from a usb flash drive.
There is a music player app that plays the archive, but I don’t know it’s name and I don’t know if it has gapless playback.

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I call them the curse of the mp3's and other tightly compressed (audio) files.
I wish I knew of a way to get around this "ouch" problem, so I could offer you a solution, so that's why I like pressed CDs.

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My music player does it and so does my 60 GB iPod Classic.
It’s a software issue, the software just has to know to fuse the tracks together. But not all software has been programmed to do it.

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