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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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  • Romberg
    13 years 3 months ago
    Excellent Discs, Trunk A Bit Large
    I love that the digipaks all have unique beautiful artwork and their own liner notes! The steamer trunk is about twice as large as it ought to be, in my opinion. There is a lot of wasted space, as lovely as it is. A more compact case half that size would be appreciated if you were ever to venture another set like this in the future. In fact, I would have rather had a simple 9" x 5.5" slipcase box (like you did for Jerry Garcia "All Good Things") to house all the discs and a miniature book rather than the huge 15" x 11" trunk.
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    anrumler
    13 years 3 months ago
    Awesome!
    Set number 0010/7200 arrived in Alaska yesterday and I couldnt be any happier right now. Sure maybe some of the things they mentioned were not included but do I care about those things? Not really. Would it have been neat to see/have them? Sure. I got the box set for the music and so far it sounds awesome. Thanks for all the effort guys!!
  • scott1129
    13 years 3 months ago
    The Flying Eyeball Has Landed
    Operation Europe '72 : The Complete RecordingsStatus : Success Opinion : on first look very nice production on the shipping case nice travel stickers, easy latch work, Handle on top for best opening, Cracked that baby, and oh my, two literary items (hard and soft), and 22 lovely digipaks of joyful noise, Will check back after I recover from this. The Sky Was Yellow And The Sun Was Blue People Stopping Strangers Just To Shake Their Hand.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Wow.....I was going to post a smartass comment but I reckon I won't. I'll just point grateful beedrinkers to here and raise a glass http://www.darkstarbrewing.co.uk/ (Served at the annual UK Deadheads Summer of Love Party. Hophead is the favourite)
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Is that a challenge?
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According to David Gans 'Jeffrey Norman assured me last Friday that the shows will be presented on CD in the order in which they actually happened. I will broadcast the interview on the KPFA marathon February 19' Also from David G 'The annual KPFA Grateful Dead fund-raiser happens on Saturday, February 19. I am lining up lots of uncirculated music; I'll have a sneak preview of the Europe '72 box and an interview with Jeffrey Norman; interview with Betty Cantor-Jackson; a live performance form "A Mark Karan Experience"; and more. More info here: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/kpfa_gd-marathon_2-19-2011
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Don't see Nicholas Newgarden. He barged in here, riled everyone up for about a week and then vanished into thin air, taking his posts with him. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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okay it's at least 60 discs maybe a few more...are we definitely saying it's 22 shows and maybe although not necessary needed is the original europe 72 label release with and now without the overdubs...if they said that in the ad i assume it'll be there unless they meant all the tracks will go back to concerts in which they were from rather than picking out tracks to give a well roundedness...now it's not necessary since it's every show represented here...what happnens if we move? There's about 10% i'm going to move...i live next door to a heroin addict who has also been arrested 10 times so i'm kind of looking to get out of here...and 2 doors down is another felon but he hasn't committed a crime in 30 years so i don't fear him but i do fear the heroin addict he used to knock on my door everyday asking for money until i threatened him still you never feel safe regardless...and you can't call the cops until he actually commits a crime...and if they leave the box set on my door he'll be in a for a real treat...he has tampered with my mail because i have received boxes with scotch tape, there's no one who's semi professional that uses scotch tape to seal boxes up.
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according to my billing account they're processing my order so maybe we'll get them 7 months early
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Its gone midnight here in the UK and I've just checked my e-mails (for the umpteenth time today) - no luck so far. Dear MaryE, Is there any chance of you posting a bulletin so we know where we stand - Have all the unused codes been reissued to people on the reserve list? How long is the reserve list? What chance have people on the All the Music list got of getting an opportunity to get the original box set? - that kind of thing. The tension is unbearable. Oh, and Cosmicbadger is right - the Darkstar brewery is so named because the owners are total Deadheads and, yes, Hophead is the beer of choice. Oh, and come back Nicholas, all is forgiven. We need the diversity. See you in the morning. Regards Mike
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In all seriousness I think Mary said thursday something will be announced...OR at least the 7200 that didn't buy the set that will be offered to the next group on the list...not sure though but i do know eventually everyone who put it in for it will be able to purchase it or pre-order it at least.
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Long live King Nicholas (in some deadhead hell where everybody has sharp, satiric tongues) Croaking this topic would be the merciful thing to do Mary...
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I am 64 years old and all I ever wanted to be was a Dead Head. I just want to hang out with people, play some Dead and have a good time while I'm here on Earth. The only person I can control or influence is myself. I don't like for anyone to have to deal with shit in their life and wish I could make all the bad things go away, but...I can't. At least we can be civil to each other and respect one another and hope we see another day, together. Looking forward to September 2011 and more
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Nicholas offended the deadhead community and was removed from the site...he said some anti-grateful dead statements...he even said they were sellouts
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George absolutely we should all have fun listening to the dead and hopefully with others along the way, i'm definitely looking forward to this release without a single doubt or hesitation.
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I am wondering what Dead.net/Rhino can release after E2 Complete? There are the Winterland 73/77 small box-sets and Fillmore West 1969 Complete. What should they do for the next few releases? Specifically what small releases like the aforementioned Winterlands and Fillmore W 69, and also what other huge E72 Complete style release could or should be next? Small: Complete 1980 Radio city/ Warfield? maybe Large: Wall of Sound(Phil's favorite, or Spring 90, or 77) Europe 1981? The pre-order mechanism for gauging the market may prove to be very beneficial to hungry Dead Heads.
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On February 7th, 2011 deadegad said: "I am wondering what Dead.net/Rhino can release after E2 Complete?.....Complete 1980 Radio city/ Warfield? maybe." Either or both would seem a logical choice for a complete run set and would no doubt be popular. Mmmm...maybe the CDs could come packaged in a die-cut box shaped to replicate the relevant venue. One of the '80s Greek Theatre runs would also have to be a candidate, surely? Anyone care to nominate a year? Personally, I'd jump at a complete "Dylan & The Dead" Box with both Dylan and Dead sets. I've always thought those shows overly maligned by both Deadheads and Bobcats. Unfortunately though, I suspect there would be too much legal wrangling between respective record companies for that one to ever happen. Did anyone say "Sunshine Daydream" for the next DVD release?
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I think Dylan and the Dead is a union of great interest but it was a disaster...Dylan is more or less a guy who doesn't know how to play in a band even though he's played in bands since 1966 but they really followed him...Dylan didn't exactly lay things out with the Dead and did what he wanted and it was up to Jerry to figure it all out on the fly which is really hard on him and made him angry...still he voted Dylan in the dead and Lesh was the one who voted him NO...but i for one wouldn't want to have a Dylan and Dead anything, even though i respect Dylan just not with the Dead...definitely always felt a good acoustic/electric residency would be great from 1980...although the problem with that is i don't think there were alot of elaborate sets so it might not work...but i think most people want that an acoustic/electric dead set with 3-5 shows in a box...maybe more...Europe 72 happens because the tour was actually one of the better one's in the rock era and it was professionally recorded everynight for the duration...not sure how these tapes resurfaced or how they came up with the idea...but i don't think they'll be another box set until 2012...they'll try and find a huge box set since this one will draw 450$ times by 20,000 or so which equates to 9M dollars...so maybe you'll get that elaborate 1980 box set for christmas 2012...other than that (or maybe not that) can anyone think of a tour where they'd want to have every show?? So i'll go with ironman's wish Warfield and Radio City complete...question is do they own those tapes since i don't think a dicks picks or field trips ever was released from that period...and you might say well you have 2 label releases from that time so why bother.
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I asked about the possibility of that, and a person inside told me that most of the tapes were erased. A shame, I say; I attended two of the Radio City shows, and Reckoning is one of my favorite live albums. I'd have loved to see a box of those shows, even if the electric bits were not top quality. But that made me think about the spring 1970 acoustic/electric shows; there weren't as many of them, but that would make a nice small box. However, I think it's obvious: if there's another big box to come, it has to be spring 77. There's 35 shows, which is half again as big as the Europe 72 set, and would be nearly 100 CDs (and expensive). But that's probably the second best tour, after Europe 72. Then there's Spring 71, fall 77, and so one...
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MaryE would it be worth considering setting up a forum specifically for information and questions about the E72 release as I am sure there will be some more issues along the way before September. If we can all be quite restrained in that forum then it would be easier for folks to get and share the information they need along the way without having to scroll through pages of rambling, philosophising, speculating, ranting, bad jokes and beer (I am as guilty as anyone) Then perhaps folks might be inclined move some of these other fascinating, informative, amusing,bizarre, annoying etc discussions to other existing forums which are quite accustomed to such things. Just a suggestion
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I thought it would be interesting to have a box set of the early years when the Dead played a lot of college campuses around the country. I first saw them at Clark and WPI both in Worcester, MA going back to 1969(Clark). And also those early shows when they were broadcast on FM radio for those who couldn't get tickets-Boston Music Hall( 1971?). It could be compilation or a separate series with complete shows. Those were exciting times and the Dead were changing rapidly. The WPI show was an absolute monster-Jerry was re-stringing a broken string while playing-the end of the show was a massive feedback explosion of the sun-people were chain dancing on the floor of the auditorium. Yes, great memories.
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I am also sorry for the Monty P. and beer sidebars, however amusing. Even though it would have to be a very small run, one day I hope to see the a box of complete shows from 1966. Bonus disk from the bits and pieces (there are plenty) that are not already on Rare Cuts And Oddities, Birth Of The Dead, Historic, Vintage, etc. Also nice would be a Felt Forum 1971. But I would bet on a MSG or Shoreline/Oakland run from their later years.
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That would be another great grouping but I heard they didn't tape many of those shows for half a year or so. Not many sbd's on archive anyway. Does anyone know more on this?
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I thought they were either lost or destroyed. I don't believe they just stopped taping them.
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We have a new agitator. I knew it wouldn't take long! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I assume you missed out on the box set plus goodies (because you could not afford it). Similar frustrations have been vented the previous 200+ pages. However: 1. Up to now (well, September 2011, that is) the shows had not been available in ANY form 2. The price seems to be quite reasonable (per show or per disc) 3. There are quite some things I would like but can't afford (some exotic cars, a house in Southern France and other things, PM if you got a spare) 4. Although the complete box will be relatively rare (and nobody will sacrifice his version to satisfy your particular physical needs), ALL the music will be available, perhaps at a later stage as individual shows as well. 5. Although I really respect your opinion and your freedom of expression, please allow me to disapprove of your exact wording. Your freedom does not necessarily mean that other people or organisations should provide you with a podium, and, frankly, I find your opinion not very helpful. Ciao
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rolecat, There is an old Zen saying:Those that speak do not know. Those that know do not speak.
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Maybe the Dead have it for 7,200 but they are saying they'll open it up for anyone who puts in for it...they got to stop the sellers from selling this baby for 1,000$ like the 1969 was and is being done to...also i never thought of this maybe the bonus disc limited disc stopped because the Dead label saw that they were being sold for riddiculus prices outside of this site because they were limited...if i'm the dead and i see my fans are being taken advantage of do i do nothing or do i try my best to stop it? I think they're doing things to stop this madness.
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If the Europe '72 said had been announced as music only for $450, but the first 7200 orders would receive the physical extras as a bonus, no one would be complaining. Just like when they release a Road Trips or some special set and offer a limited edition bonus disc to the early birds. Granted this is not how it was presented to us, but when taken as such, the end result is the same. Just a thought.
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what David was refering to on "The Golden Road" on sirius when he said they found some unexpected stuff when going through the old tapes? Some extra songs/sets found? I know all the shows are going to be unbelievably special to our ears. I'm anxious for 4/7, 4/21, 5/7 and 5/24 shows to see how much they will wow us over what's around now.
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Thanks for replies, all taken in. No, I am not trying to be an agitator all. Whether I'm agreed to or not, thanks for listening. Only DeadHeads would listen and understand, or not. Aside for my boxed-set beef, I remain Grateful. Had my fist out and I've said my piece and now I'll get out. -rolfecat
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I see you got your list outSay your piece and get out Yes I got the gist of it But it's alright Sorry that you feel that way The only thing there is to say Every silver lining's got a Touch of grey
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Very apropos. Guess I get the jist of it But it's alright
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i was being very distracted with trying to figure out which familiar lyrics rolfecat was loosely quoting thanks for the help allman
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Hey Rolfecat. It's OK with me to speak your mind here. A lot of other have made good counterpoints to your list of concerns. A couple of quick ones from me: 1. The $450 is a lot to spend at one time. The cost per show is cheap! Cheaper than the average Dead, or any other band's, release plus you get the extras if you acted early. 2. About the Turkey with out the gravy or side order. It is clear that Dead.net underestimated the desire and market for this big release but felt obliged to honor what they said about 7200 copies only. They did not want to renege on what they said, that's honorable! The compromise of music only was reasonable and still cheap per show. That's not greed IMHO. They misjudged the great reception, uh, from most of us, this release received and hence some bickering here and exploitation on eBay. That's just an unintended mistake, not a crime or evidence of greed and avarice on the Dead's part. If it was about making some bucks only then the Dead could have charged more and could do other things too. 3. The Ebay scoundrels. S#$T happens! Just like scalping tickets. That's not the Dead's fault. Here in New York State former Governor Spitzer helped legalize it. But Spitzer's hooker scandal was payback and I'm sure he'll never work again. . .. Oh my bad, that's right MSNBC gave the putz a TV show. Win some, lose some. 4. I do not know how many DeadHeads can or cannot afford this, but 99.9%? A dubious claim. There are, I would guess, some who can aford it but will pass on it. Once again the per show cost is not a lot and perhaps they be offered individually. 5. who knows what Jerry would think? He had some flaws, but I still love him, and I'm not perfect. 6. The spirit of the dead community, hmmnn, sure some can not spend that much at once, but it is till a bargain. I have met many generous people through my love of the Grateful Dead. It must be said, however, that I have met a few parasites who could be described as DeadHeads. Impolitic? True. Which ones are the RealDeadHeads? Take care, and keep speaking your mind, really.
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I missed the "Golden Road" thang on Sirius that you refer to, so I cannot say for sure, but I guess what David was referring to concerned a number of songs that they had found on the tapes that were not previously known about.
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Nice way to put it. Especially everybody's thinking Jerry would do this or do that. You're right, who knows. Or not. My two cents- he would have run as far away from any dealings with this as possible, I maintain he didn't want any of these hassles, he was an escapist except when it was time to make music. Deadheads. Well that's of of us, a varied stew of humanity. It shouldn't be any other way. Just as the band was vastly different from each other but had the same mind on some matters.
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Thanks, now that's really got me all stirred up for this delivery. Any possibilities for new material has me even more grateful.
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But please don't make me feel bad because I got in line for this release and successfully was able to order it. I've had my share of bad luck and have been shut out of things I wanted but I didn't blame anyone for it. Some people have some extra money some don't, some work a million hours a week some dont', some save their money some don't, it's been that way forever. Why would it be any different for E72? I just don't get the anger, frustration sure especially concerning the ordering fiasco. Plus the real deadheads vs .. well I don't know who they are "against" the new deadheads?? Whatever that means. When does one move from being an unreal or "fake" deadhead to a real one? I always wondered how and when that happened. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Broke-down '49 Ford by the side of the roadHubcaps shining but it won't carry the load Lucky we don't have anywhere special to go Maybe we'll just settle down here, I don't know Why don't we look at it philosophically Coulda broke down in the Lincoln Tunnel halfway to Jersey Instead of this fireplace Fall in the Catskill range I believe we're on a run of better bad luck for a change
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I don't know if anyone else stumbled onto Dead Essays recently, but this article about Dick (of Dick's Picks) is so relivant to this discussion is hurts. I figured that since we long since past the point of circular conversation about this box, let throw in a new wrinkle. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2011/02/dick-latvala.html I didn't know the story before I read it, and it really explains the though process behind how a release like this one came to be, and why we are where we are with the availablity of shows. It also happens to be one of the most touching, profound and incisive articles I've read in a while, so it may make your day like it made mine. A long but amazing read.
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There is an article on Yahoo Finance just released about Rhino's parent Company Warner Music Group (NYSE:WMG). The stock is down 11% and they lost a lot of $. On the positive side this release hopefully will help them. On the negative side hopefully this doesn't cause any future problems with our subscriptions or releases. Just an observation. Not anything hopefully to worry about.
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ha! thank you! anybody who quotes Better Bad Luck is okay with me!
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I removed Nicholas's postings at his request. It's not that I've never lowered the boom on anybody and not that I'm never going to do it again, because sometimes the situation calls for it; in the deathless words of Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse (watch it on late-night cable...), be nice until it's time to not be nice. However, that is not the situation here, he just wanted his posts removed so I removed 'em. Thanks and back to your regularly scheduled discussion...
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They say they wan't charge your card til it ships, but the funds are unavailable for withdrawal. Hello? What does that tell you. I am really sad that I was taken for a lay-away ride with full price up front. Your welcome GD?Rhino!
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The money is only unavailable for a few days while they check out the card. Chill.
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Ok, I was about to say... Hopefully the mix will be just exactly perfect. My ears are salivating.
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First, thanks to Mary for digging out my account and resetting my pw! I've been watching this thread but haven't been able to post! When cassettes were circulating, we always loved to get the sound check on a tape! Some tunes had their debuts as sound checks, and were another source of tour rumors. Has anyone wondered if the sound checks will be included in this set? Sound checks were to test the equipment, including the recording equipment! I'm sure everyone would love and understand their "warts and all" nature and including sound checks would allow all to "relive every note" from this classic tour. Although box set packaging, tour memorabilia (if any), etc. are nice, and while the music is the bottom line, the photo book, deluxe hard cover or not, seems to be an essential part of a package like this. I've purchased new unopened LPs such as E72, Blows, Sunfighter, Close to the Edge, Eat A Peach and of course S&R for the sticker on eBay, just to get the original album covers and booklets. Not being able to get this set's book might account for much of the expressed angst. However, the book and any other ephemera could be made part of the music only set by including a PDF of the book (locked to prevent copying, if necessary), which might only add one disc to the set or might be included as a file on one of the music discs. Such a disc could also be used for all the liner notes, dead.net promos, etc. Or, as has been said here, the book could be sold separately, in deluxe or paperback editions. This would ensure that no one has the perception that there will be some significant portion of this historic package they won't be able to enjoy, while keeping the 7,200 boxes as special as promised. I had a few other thoughts, such as releasing these and other large collections of shows (The Complete April & May, 1977!) on microSD memory chips. I'm working on a terabyte chip library, consisting of 8, 16 or 32GB microSD chips which can be switched into a mini USB reader (a nice one is available at Radio Shack) and plugged into a dashboard mounted port to play through an Alpine head unit, for example. One terabyte can fit on 32 - 32 gigabyte chips or on only 16 64GB chips! I'll keep the libaray in a 4" x 5" rubber-groove lined Orvis fly case in my glove compartment! Large sets of shows like this would cost a lot less to mail around the world. So once again, Thanks, Mary, and cheers, Laser