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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1341
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    Don't let this board tailspin again

    I bailed for quite a while because of the trivialness. In fairness, I contributed.

    You are squabbling over a small handful of the greatest bands to ever walk the planet. The three in question are in my top five. I happen to include Traffic, but nobody ever cares. All are good in their own way. But, none of us would be here without the GD. I doubt the ABB or Band boards are this active.

    For what it is worth, not right or wrong, I defer to folks who saw them live in the early years. In small venues. At their best.

    But it still won't change my opinion.

    Yeah, the Blues gotta pull this out. They let game 1 slip. To be honest, I am surprised they are tied.

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    First "rock" concert : Allman Bros. at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, sometime around June 1974. Anybody there?
    Dad drove us 9th graders. no weed no nuthin'. A good time was had by all, dad copped himself a couple beers, and we all made it home safely by 4AM. Dead and Co. coming up: Anyone going to the Hollywood Bowl? I'll be the guy with the tie dye and the white gotee...you can't miss me!!!!

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    Saying stupid shit....

    ....maybe Butch was drunk. I know me, and drunk me says/texts some stupid shit that makes next day sober me do a good ole fashioned facepalm.
    St. Louis has, HAS to beat Beantown tonight otherwise it's all uphill from here....
    ABB isn't even in my top 20 bands. And I only have one beer under my belt, so it's legit. Only saw them once. Rusted Root opened. Thought they were better.....don't throw stuff at me.
    The thread took a downward turn Oro, because Butch pretty much said Bill the Drummer and Mickey suck. And the heads responded. Oh well. Second beer cracked. I better stfu. Anyone got a grilled cheese sandwich? Two bucks.
    ....edit. I've read a few band biographies, and there's usually a douchebag that screws it all up. I've never read anything of a Grateful Dead member being one. (maybe Phil after the fact. Maybe). Put that in your pipe and smoke the fuck out of it.
    "Screaming and yelling he was licking his chops."

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    Nice post. I’m not sure how the thread took the downward turn it did? Those three bands were my favorites also, and probably still are...I just always felt like the ABB didn’t need? no that’s not it?...it just sometimes seemed like their drummers played the exact same thing a lot, where B&M not so much? Anyway, just thought Butchs dig was ironic imho.
    Never heard much negative from the Dead about the ABB, but unfortunately over the years can’t say the same about the Brothers. But hey, we all say stupid shit, and as I’ve said before, I try to like my musicians, atheletes, politicians, hell anyone who’s supposed to be professional, I try to like them for what they do more than who they are. Only cause that’s they way I want people to treat me at work.
    Did not mean to, hopefully didn’t, diss the band at all. Like everyone else some years/bands were better than others, GD included.
    Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the ABB until the late seventies or early eighties. But it was the Warren/Woody years that first blew me away the most.(obviously not including the original line up albums ).
    Man the Dead, The Brothers, and Santana were all having great resurgences during that late 80s, early 90s. Even saw the Brothers and Santana at Woodstock 94. The Band I first saw in the early 80s at the old Buffalo Train station, and yea no Robbie, but we didnt care. Saw them 84 in Rochester at the Summer party tent and it was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to!!
    Actually was fortunate to do Merch with them for some of the 90s shows, and ended up going to Chicago 95 at the last minute because of our Band connections/lamies etc. That’s what got us in, backstage, and we got to hang on the stage during the bands set. Everyone from the Dead except Jerry was up onstage watching them. Bob was standing right behind us. But of course, as soon as the Band was done they shagged our asses right off! Worked a couple tours with them in 96. They were all awesome, but from the very first time I met Rick Danko, man what a nice soul. Would always come over and say hi, sometimes right out to the booth, he'd walk over and shake your hand and say how great it was that you were there, just so nice.
    If all you had on a desert island was some stuff from those three bands, I think you’d be 👍

    I can’t imagine seeing the Glen show! I mean I’m sure the nasty conditions were ruff, but back when I was young, if I could have seen those three at once like that, phew!

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    ABB Fox Box warning

    Personally, I love the ABB - but the ABB Fox Box recorded in Atlanta at the Fox Theatre, 9/24-26/2004 has the audience singing along with every classic song....ugh. Did this go down at later GD shows? Might as well breakout a Kumbaya encore! Then again, maybe I'm just an old grouchy bastard

    All these years later and Bill Graham is still right - the GD were the only ones that did what they did. I think the ABB was close as anyone got. Maybe I've missed some one. I think most bands saw themselves as putting on a show and did the same show every night....charge on stage to great applause, hit all the notes, you know. It can be a great show, but you don't need to see it more than once. That's my 2 cents for today

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    hey

    anniversary of

    5/29/71

    really good show

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    I remember my sister got to go the ABB in Madison WI back in 79

    I was jealous.

    ABB in 91 at the Gorge was great
    also the ABB opened for The Dead in 09 at the Gorge
    and attended ABB in Woodinville WA in ??

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    "rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make you strut"

    thank you Lemmy

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    hendrixfreak is an ABB freak, just sayin'!

    Sorry to hear the ABB bashing or, at least, the ennui. But to each his or her own.

    I heard them live in June '71 over the radio during the closing of the Fillmore East, then got the FE double album. By 1972, my triumvirate were the GD, ABB and The Band. I find it interesting that that's still the case, 47 years later. I should add that I consider Jimi in a category by himself. And I'm a huge fan of the Three Kings (Albert, BB and Freddie) and their cousin, Buddy Guy. I won't type a complete list, but I'm also a major Roy Buchanan fan. But among rock bands, I had only three top choices, and lived in a time when I saw a shitload of all of them in their heyday or nearly so.

    I caught ABB with the GD several times 6/9, 7/27, 7/28/73 and at Madison Square Garden in May '73, then again with the Derek/Warren lineup, ~1999-2009 (all at Red Rocks, almost always first 3 rows, center). A truly magnificent band of improvisers; the GD had nothing on them. Just two different flavors. Yes, the GD took more chances. But if you listen to the Duane era (two Jan '71 sets forthcoming this year, woo-hoo!), he pushed that band until it at times sound like Cream. I'm thinking of the official bootlegs series shows from '70 and '71.

    Consider how psyched me and my buddies were when we heard of the Watkins Glen lineup! I'd already seen the GD 9-19-72 and 6-9-73 and the ABB in May '73. Our three best bands on the same stage! And a chance, finally, to see The Band. Great two days of music. (Plus mud, mescaline and blotter. No food to speak of.)

    Then, incredibly, two days later, we caught the GD and The Band two nights at Roosevelt Stadium. (I caught The Band again on its final tour in '76, when they rocked the New York Palladium so hard that the balcony was in physical flux. I wondered at that time whether it had been designed for so much stress, but I didn't move from my standing position at my seat.)

    All before turning 16. I caught the GD again that September '73. As a freshly minted 16 yr old, I already considered myself a GD veteran.

    I guess the ABB and The Band are nearly as burned into my DNA as the GD.

    Anyhow, like someone said, Butch said some nasty things. But forgiveness and understanding wipe away any ill will for me. I too have lamented that Mickey moved from really sensitive synchro'd drumming and percussion in his heyday to the "sneakers in a dryer" approach post-hiatus, which clodded up the sound, though I still enjoyed every Red Rocks show they ever played, plus Folsom Field, Telluride, etc. etc.

    So I'm just raising the ABB flag over my pointy little head. If they're not your thang, so be it. But I've never seen a band quite like them and never will again. RIP Duane, Berry, Gregg, Butch.

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    What are you guys smoking? 6/9&10/73? I have almost given up hope.. but with all this talk of the Brothers, that would be something.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:02

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...set-List is primo! I’m in love! 🙏❤️😎

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:06

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Guess the mystery will hold until May 1. Can't wait for this release!

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:07

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When I was a mere schmo of 19...dem were da daze...

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:07

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yahoo!!!!

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Submitted by reijo29 on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:12

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Should be fantastic. Love the artwork too......(But still hate this new site. Impossible to post or find comments on your phone. It's a nightmare. I miss this place. I just happen to be in front of a computer now)......Enjoy the holiday weekend

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:16

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I have the subscription. If it's not sold out, get it now.

Love the artwork and look forward to hearing this. A magic era.

Too soon to request an 80's show for Vol. 31 and 90's show for 32?

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:24

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30. (!).

Wow.

This is good. This Dark Star is one for The Ages.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:37

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I say for #31: 6/18/83 and 6/20/83

for #32: 5/27/93

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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:42

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It's never to early to ask for an 80's show. But I'm a little greedy. 3 83 shows in a mini box would keep mr. Jones away from my door for a while

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:42

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....seems like just yesterday that the Dave's series was announced. Oh, oh what I want to know. where does the time go?

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:46

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Can’t wait to get my furry paws on it. You got it right pops ,those were some good old days.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:49

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Seems the t-shirt for sale is the cover of the bonus disc. Interesting artwork, also gives an idea how small the Fillmore East was. That third disc is gonna get a lot of play at my house and in my car I imagine.

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Submitted by Thin on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 11:01

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This is the Dead at their first "Peak". Amazing stuff. And the recording is pristine.

Love the art for this one. Glad to see something different and original.

“Incredible variety of releases and format” Dave you evil bastard LOL! We haven’t even received this one yet and I’m already jonesin’ for more! Format variety? Like perhaps some video....

COVER ART: I’m with thin, I like this cover especially because it’s not the bearded skeletons again....not saying any of that was bad, just think there is so much more iconography to work with and the skeletons have been done to death, yuck yuck, imho that is....sounds like we might get some era variety also? Philly 89? Summer 85? More 79? 91?
Folks saying Warfield 80 might be right, he’s obviously been poking around there....but what about Gainesville!

Yee-gads, I guess in the mean time we’ll just have to settle for some 70 Fillmore 😉 were so spoiled, thanks Dave

EDIT: perhaps the most interesting tell is that their working with Bears people and what that might entail......”possibilities are frightening”

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Submitted by NCDead on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 12:35

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The art work is growing on me on this one, but that disc three looks amazing.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 12:35

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Short Seaside chat for Dave. Of course this one should have come out a long time ago....

No real clues on the next box.☹️

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Submitted by unkle sam on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 12:36

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I concur, guessing what's on this bonus disc is going to be fun. That third disc with the dark star is going to get some big time play here. Some of the tunes from 1/3 are on disc 1 and 2 so I am going to figure the big jams from both early and late shows will be on the bonus disc, oh goody, ps put me down for a couple of those limited run t shirts.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 12:40

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Sixy - That's what I thought when I turned 30. I'm 45 now. : ))

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 13:17

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either an 80's Ventura box or an 80's Greek Berkeley box....

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 14:17

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This seems like it might be pretty interesting.:

https://pitchfork.com/news/grateful-dead-graphic-novel-announced/

Anyone remember back in the day, the Grateful Dead comix? I recall them coming in the printed newsletter that folded out, was on beautiful stock paper, and had lots of colors and all the new products of the day. Like Dick's Picks one haha.

Sixtus

P.S. Wedeocu....true dat. 30 seems like both yesterday and forever ago! Also makes me wonder if there is ever any endgame number in store for us with Dave. 30 is great. Imagine double triple quadruple that? Who will live that long haha.

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Submitted by deadegad on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 14:18

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Just like others have noted, the skeleton art has become a bit stale and cliched so this is a welcomed change of art direction. The other covers are great but the skeleton motif becomes staid after a while. The Wizard of Oz cover was a nice touch on whichever release it was on.

Now onto that MSG NYC September 1979 box set. Dave that one will sell-out instantly.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 15:59

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I dont know Sixy, I think I can make it to at least Dave's Picks 110 or maybe 120.

Anything after that is all bonus material for sure!

Looks like Rhino has found the sweetspot. That point that people that want it can have it while keeping the cost down by not succumbing to those that think Rhino is in business for them by keeping everything made in stock

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 16:48

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I tried to pre-order one (on an iPad) and got the message

“Selected required options are not available.”

Just seeing if it was sold out, I wasn’t going to actually buy it because I subscribed.

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Not sold out, I was able to put one in the cart.

100 total hits in the book, pre-orders only.
You have to figure out where to lick, with no 2 hits adjacent to each other.
Basically a reCRAPTCHA exam for the tongue. The problem is that by the time you realize that you found a hit, you could have found 5 hits.

But seriously folks, the real question is what unreleased songs are going to be on the bonus vinyl for preorders.

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Submitted by kyleharmon on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 18:34

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just please don't put out 8/3/69 at the Great Highway. that show sucked balls so hard I didn't get through it and I deleted that show first and only time I felt the need to delete a grateful dead show

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 19:36

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21K OR 22K for 2020??? PS jamming 4/17/1971 Dillon Gym from Princeton.... missed the anniversary by a day but in a mood for some Pig Pen!!!.... have a good night everyone... bob t

Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or phblic domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

Think that's around 80 min; Senor Norman cuts a lot of the inevitable tuning that is left in on Archive, so who knows how much he can cut, one of the songs may not make it. Figure UJB> Black Peter over the early show encore version, and Mason's because Dave has put out most of them, and I could see another double Mason's, for those who hate and loathe and despise it, at least it isn't a triple shot of it. And not sure if he goes with another China Rider. Would not object at all to that.

And I wonder if Dave's mention of working with the Stanley family means this is more Bear's Sonic Journals type of release than Houseboat Tape continuation. Though, he also mentioned the Dave's that were part of that stash, 6 (2/2/70, 12/20-21/69 with bonus), 10 (12/10-11/69 with bonus), 19 (1/23-24/70). Either way, talk of talks with the Stanleys plus the returned Bettys make it a great time to be a Deadhead, and a boom time for any credit card company who gives cards to Deadheads.

Really excited for this release!

....the ONLY whiskey I can drink straight. Good call.
Also a good call, we might get TWO Cumberlands in this release! Blessed 🙏 indeed.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 22:03

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....the Mason's Children from 1.2 is the one released on Fallout From The Phil Zone. The Philster is doing a one off in Vegas in three weeks. Here's the lineup.
https://hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-entertainment/joint-phil-lesh-2019…
....looking tasty af. Can't complain.
Note the age limit of 6+. At The Joint. Wow.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 22:10

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I snorked hard when i read that

If I remember correctly, the bonus disc can only be made up of GD composed songs. Reason being the bonus disc is a 'gift' so to speak and Rhino is financially responsible for producing it. They don't want to pay royalties for the cover songs on a giveaway disc. I can't say I blame them. The end of disc 2 has some of the cover songs from 1/3/70 and what cover songs they are.
Someone stated in an earlier post Dave had mentioned 'Alligator' so I'd say that's a safe bet for the bonus disc; Deadlists times it at approx. 25 minutes so there's 50-55 minutes left for other GD songs/jams. We could see some prime music from 1/3/70.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 03:51

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Looking at the set list, this Daves 30 looks like a bridge linking the 60s to the 70s. It must have been one of T.C.s last gigs, and one of the last times the Dark Star-St. Stephen-Eleven suites featured. The disc also includes a generous helping of the more country rock style the band would focus on during the first couple of years of the new decade. More country, less psych-although epic journeys were still made, the focus was beginning to change-and this set demonstrates that quite nicely.

Also nice to see hippychick back, lubricious as ever.

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