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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • alvarhanso
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    Other Ones not duds

    Jim, those 2 Other Ones aren't duds, and 8/25 I hate to say my problem is being really distracted by the extra bass. The Other One is the absolute best part of that show, and it's great to have the whole thing as the one on Archive is cut at 16 min, so it misses 12 min of fiery jamming. And I was including the 1/22 one in the part of the show I really dug, but that I get about 70 min of highlights out of what was supposedly a legendary show was more my point, coupled with getting what we ask for isn't always best. Like 11/6/77. Maybe if it hadn't been so widely requested, we could have gotten a more obscure choice that was a better overall show. Though conversely, DaP 29 2/26/77 is every bit of its reputation, and a bona fide great Pick made possible by the returned Bettys. Of course, it's all pretty subjective. :)

  • Vguy72
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    Hiding behind a wall of illusion....

    .... reminds of a certain villain named Mysterio in a certain new Spider-Man movie. psst....it was pretty damn good.

  • stoltzfus
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    I am about...

    1.2 discs into 10/17/72

    loves me some GD72

  • stoltzfus
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    JiminMD, we were talking about...

    the space between us all
    and the people
    who hide themselves
    behind a wall
    of illusion...

  • stoltzfus
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    got it up and running

    yessir, that dosed Viagra tab did wonders

  • JimInMD
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    First.. "Scarlet definitely a Bobbie dazzler!" Well, that cracked me up. Lots of good stuff in lots of recent posts here.. but I do find myself liking several of the duds mentioned.. The Other One from 1/22/78 and 8/25/72 I thought were both excellent, but I did like the comments and viewpoints and there were some lessor shows I guess.

    Bullfrogs.. they built this river takeout, hiking trail parking lot behind my house a few years ago.. and it's in a flood plain.. so they somehow thought they had to engineer the hell out of it and tried to build a slow drain system such to not add to the runoff during a flash flood inducing rain.. so they built these silly trenches near the edge of the lot complete with cattails, water that won't drain, bullfrogs and essentially a mosquito factory where once there were none. If it worked.. that'd be great but it honestly serves no purpose, when it rains hard it floods there too. So I go to bed with bullfrog mating calls each night and for no reason.. fun for about three minutes. ..and just to squelch any rumors, these bullfrogs do not make you trip when you lick the slime from behind their ears. More on that later....

    I especially like the non-decade, keyboardist neutral banter. Sure, we all have our favorites.. but lightning did strike in the later years, perhaps not every night.. but.... A very kind and wise soul here that no longer seems to visit these threads but saw shows throughout their history once sent me a PM stating he never understood the decade bashing, that was never how it was. When the band was on, they were on.. and there were plenty of great shows after Pigpen and Keith left the band. He went on to add all this started after the band had packed and gone. I guess tapes become their own source of history, but being there was different. After all, there were stinkers in the early years too.. you just have to poke around and there were some smokers where you would never expect to find them. Anyway.. if Betty recorded the 1980's she certainly would have turned water into wine along the way.

    What were we talking about again? 1974 Eyes of the World? Exactly.. Listened to the Eyes from the Swing today.. amazing and clearly the best. Anyway, it was simply wonderful and carried me through the hardest and scariest part of my river day.. no flips, no upside adventures, so it clearly must be the best. Great show. ok.. back to your previously scheduled bouts with chemically (or toad licking) induced dementia. :D What were we talking about again?

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    Holee Shite!!....

    ....stoltzfus finally got his avatar up and running. Be still my beating heart.

  • Oroborous
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    Like I told ya, what I said...

    That is a picture of me doing what I do best...Not my Dog! Ahem....
    But thanks for the kind words. And though we are blessed with some awesome regulars, it’s the rest of all y’all that keep coming back for more and throwing those spices into the proverbial stew that keeps it all fresh and alive! So thank you brother Dreading et el!

    Dead Days indeed....
    Wednesday: @7/3/88 finally got to this one. Can still see that dipstick flying towards the stage during Birdsong....
    Thursday: cobbeled together enough gear to watch @7/4/89 30th anniversary....such a night!
    Friday: @7/5/19 Folsom lake, er a, I mean stadium! Cold Rain and Snow Indeed!
    Saturday: @7/6/19 Folsom, ahhh more like it! Good show, could nit pick that the last-show of tour set list might of had some more meat & potatoes, but I won’t...
    Sunday: watched 7/7/89: yaaasss, Kiethfan, nice cherry popper, Scarlet definetly a Bobbie dazzler! Though like the @3/22/90 too....so many, how to choose?
    Monday; finally ripped the 50th albums etc and Warfield 10/9&10/80. Listened to 7/3/66, the Aoxomoxoa bonus stuff, the Warfield sets, 7/8/81 #1 and 7/781 #2.....ok, I’m all deaded out...phew, pant, pant.....
    Hopefully RT 3.3 will be in the box mananna....might need a rest first!

    Cheese and Rice...so woke up this morning in my own bed...no idea how I got there? With flashes of random visions of running, no more like gliding through the mountain forest with these huge but graceful beasts, all of us beyond high, like communicating on a whole other level?.....and wild ritualistic ceremonially dancing and drum like instruments, but totally made from giant like natural red woods, not man made, all the most beatific vibes......so wake up quite confused to say the least.....eventually everything seems to be normal.....except that damn smell??? Ewwww? And I swear I heard bats as I became cognizant?? Or was it Bullfrogs?
    Did you ever wake up with Bullfrogs on your mind?

    Sigh, back to the grind tomorrow....always tough going back especially after a 5 day Dead fest!

  • alvarhanso
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    Third Picks

    Dave's 11 11/17/72 was a third Pick, so it may hold a lot of times, but not always. The first 2 are definitely to sell the subscriptions, but there can be duds in there, too. DaP 25 11/6/77 and DaP 22 12/6-7/71 are a couple of examples. I find the ones I like least are the last Pick of the year. DaP 4 9/24/76, DaP 12 11/4/77, DaP 20 12/9/81, DaP 24 8/25/72 and DaP 28 6/18/76 range from ones I almost never listen back to (12, 24, 28) to ones I won't listen back to after giving them multiple chances already (4, 20).

    The ironic thing in hendrixfreak's take (which is perfectly reasonable) is that DaP 23 1/22/78 was so heavily requested, and a legendary show. Legendary mainly for a few seconds of a Close Encounters tease (kinda like the other worst Pick, IMO, DaP 7, which I grant was a third Pick, which was infamous for a few seconds of Staying Alive!?!), but the show barely gets any play from me. And when I do, I choose Minglewood, Jack Straw, Peggy O, Tennessee Jed, Row Jimmy, Music Never Stopped then the second half of set 2, or disc 3, up to Around & Around. I probably made a highlights disc of almost all of that at the time. I'm not huge on 12 11/4/77 and 25 11/6/77, as they, too, have great moments, but don't carry my attention the whole way through, where some Picks I don't want to miss anything. I was surprised on that relisten to all of DaP 9 5/14/74 how exceptionally well they played just about everything up to that Dark Star that I had steadfastly avoided so long. Even the Playing in the Band, which they essentially butcher the re-entry to, they take the ending and ramp the energy up to 11 to make up for the botched part. But like 11/6/77, which people had clamored for since DiP 35, it has a great opening 1-2 punch in Mississippi Half Step-> Jack Straw, but then what? Music Never Stopped is typical '77-'78 excellent version, Samson is good with a fun intro, then the Truckin'. And I'm a lover of Wharf Rats, and that one doesn't really get me going, either.

    What does all this gibberish mean? Perhaps not much, other than sometimes the shows that a seeming consensus of fans have wanted released aren't quite as good as the lesser known shows that Dave is able to surprise us with. 11/17/71 and 11/17/72 are prime examples, not just because they're among my personal favorites, but because they are just fantastic shows. Some of the very best shows released have been part of box sets, or Dick and Dave already put them out in the DiP Series, and a couple of gems in Road Trips (6/9/76, 5/15/70, 11/21/73, 11/15/71 spring to mind). You hope everything in the DaP Series will be awesome, but hey not every Dead concert that you paid money and traveled to see was Cornell or even MSG 9/16/87 (45 min 1st set still baffles me, for a show with such a reputation). Count me in on wanting 7/13/84 to be a DaP, but I don't think it's an oustanding overall show, I really like the Scarlet> Touch> Fire> Man Smart and Dark Star (plinky keys and all). I think it just is what it is at this point with the Picks, with them having to put out 4 per year and entice into getting a big box every year, too. I'm okay with that deal, and will let it go down next year, too. Even the shows I don't particularly like are nice to hear at least once or twice. Except DaP 20 12/9/81. I can't find anything positive to say about that one other than the Albert Hoffman bicycle cover. (And that isn't anti-80s bias, it's anti-bad show bias.) :)

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    I think any 2 wheeled transportation that has a combustion fired engine is considered a motorcycle, but die hard bikers will always say no because they do not want to be in the same class with the moped or scooter.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...set-List is primo! I’m in love! 🙏❤️😎

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Guess the mystery will hold until May 1. Can't wait for this release!

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When I was a mere schmo of 19...dem were da daze...

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yahoo!!!!

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Should be fantastic. Love the artwork too......(But still hate this new site. Impossible to post or find comments on your phone. It's a nightmare. I miss this place. I just happen to be in front of a computer now)......Enjoy the holiday weekend

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I have the subscription. If it's not sold out, get it now.

Love the artwork and look forward to hearing this. A magic era.

Too soon to request an 80's show for Vol. 31 and 90's show for 32?

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30. (!).

Wow.

This is good. This Dark Star is one for The Ages.

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I say for #31: 6/18/83 and 6/20/83

for #32: 5/27/93

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It's never to early to ask for an 80's show. But I'm a little greedy. 3 83 shows in a mini box would keep mr. Jones away from my door for a while

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....seems like just yesterday that the Dave's series was announced. Oh, oh what I want to know. where does the time go?

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Can’t wait to get my furry paws on it. You got it right pops ,those were some good old days.

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Seems the t-shirt for sale is the cover of the bonus disc. Interesting artwork, also gives an idea how small the Fillmore East was. That third disc is gonna get a lot of play at my house and in my car I imagine.

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This is the Dead at their first "Peak". Amazing stuff. And the recording is pristine.

Love the art for this one. Glad to see something different and original.

“Incredible variety of releases and format” Dave you evil bastard LOL! We haven’t even received this one yet and I’m already jonesin’ for more! Format variety? Like perhaps some video....

COVER ART: I’m with thin, I like this cover especially because it’s not the bearded skeletons again....not saying any of that was bad, just think there is so much more iconography to work with and the skeletons have been done to death, yuck yuck, imho that is....sounds like we might get some era variety also? Philly 89? Summer 85? More 79? 91?
Folks saying Warfield 80 might be right, he’s obviously been poking around there....but what about Gainesville!

Yee-gads, I guess in the mean time we’ll just have to settle for some 70 Fillmore 😉 were so spoiled, thanks Dave

EDIT: perhaps the most interesting tell is that their working with Bears people and what that might entail......”possibilities are frightening”

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The art work is growing on me on this one, but that disc three looks amazing.

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Short Seaside chat for Dave. Of course this one should have come out a long time ago....

No real clues on the next box.☹️

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I concur, guessing what's on this bonus disc is going to be fun. That third disc with the dark star is going to get some big time play here. Some of the tunes from 1/3 are on disc 1 and 2 so I am going to figure the big jams from both early and late shows will be on the bonus disc, oh goody, ps put me down for a couple of those limited run t shirts.

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Sixy - That's what I thought when I turned 30. I'm 45 now. : ))

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either an 80's Ventura box or an 80's Greek Berkeley box....

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This seems like it might be pretty interesting.:

https://pitchfork.com/news/grateful-dead-graphic-novel-announced/

Anyone remember back in the day, the Grateful Dead comix? I recall them coming in the printed newsletter that folded out, was on beautiful stock paper, and had lots of colors and all the new products of the day. Like Dick's Picks one haha.

Sixtus

P.S. Wedeocu....true dat. 30 seems like both yesterday and forever ago! Also makes me wonder if there is ever any endgame number in store for us with Dave. 30 is great. Imagine double triple quadruple that? Who will live that long haha.

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Just like others have noted, the skeleton art has become a bit stale and cliched so this is a welcomed change of art direction. The other covers are great but the skeleton motif becomes staid after a while. The Wizard of Oz cover was a nice touch on whichever release it was on.

Now onto that MSG NYC September 1979 box set. Dave that one will sell-out instantly.

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I dont know Sixy, I think I can make it to at least Dave's Picks 110 or maybe 120.

Anything after that is all bonus material for sure!

Looks like Rhino has found the sweetspot. That point that people that want it can have it while keeping the cost down by not succumbing to those that think Rhino is in business for them by keeping everything made in stock

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I tried to pre-order one (on an iPad) and got the message

“Selected required options are not available.”

Just seeing if it was sold out, I wasn’t going to actually buy it because I subscribed.

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Not sold out, I was able to put one in the cart.

100 total hits in the book, pre-orders only.
You have to figure out where to lick, with no 2 hits adjacent to each other.
Basically a reCRAPTCHA exam for the tongue. The problem is that by the time you realize that you found a hit, you could have found 5 hits.

But seriously folks, the real question is what unreleased songs are going to be on the bonus vinyl for preorders.

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just please don't put out 8/3/69 at the Great Highway. that show sucked balls so hard I didn't get through it and I deleted that show first and only time I felt the need to delete a grateful dead show

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21K OR 22K for 2020??? PS jamming 4/17/1971 Dillon Gym from Princeton.... missed the anniversary by a day but in a mood for some Pig Pen!!!.... have a good night everyone... bob t

Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or phblic domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

Think that's around 80 min; Senor Norman cuts a lot of the inevitable tuning that is left in on Archive, so who knows how much he can cut, one of the songs may not make it. Figure UJB> Black Peter over the early show encore version, and Mason's because Dave has put out most of them, and I could see another double Mason's, for those who hate and loathe and despise it, at least it isn't a triple shot of it. And not sure if he goes with another China Rider. Would not object at all to that.

And I wonder if Dave's mention of working with the Stanley family means this is more Bear's Sonic Journals type of release than Houseboat Tape continuation. Though, he also mentioned the Dave's that were part of that stash, 6 (2/2/70, 12/20-21/69 with bonus), 10 (12/10-11/69 with bonus), 19 (1/23-24/70). Either way, talk of talks with the Stanleys plus the returned Bettys make it a great time to be a Deadhead, and a boom time for any credit card company who gives cards to Deadheads.

Really excited for this release!

....the ONLY whiskey I can drink straight. Good call.
Also a good call, we might get TWO Cumberlands in this release! Blessed 🙏 indeed.

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....the Mason's Children from 1.2 is the one released on Fallout From The Phil Zone. The Philster is doing a one off in Vegas in three weeks. Here's the lineup.
https://hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-entertainment/joint-phil-lesh-2019…
....looking tasty af. Can't complain.
Note the age limit of 6+. At The Joint. Wow.

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I snorked hard when i read that

If I remember correctly, the bonus disc can only be made up of GD composed songs. Reason being the bonus disc is a 'gift' so to speak and Rhino is financially responsible for producing it. They don't want to pay royalties for the cover songs on a giveaway disc. I can't say I blame them. The end of disc 2 has some of the cover songs from 1/3/70 and what cover songs they are.
Someone stated in an earlier post Dave had mentioned 'Alligator' so I'd say that's a safe bet for the bonus disc; Deadlists times it at approx. 25 minutes so there's 50-55 minutes left for other GD songs/jams. We could see some prime music from 1/3/70.

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Looking at the set list, this Daves 30 looks like a bridge linking the 60s to the 70s. It must have been one of T.C.s last gigs, and one of the last times the Dark Star-St. Stephen-Eleven suites featured. The disc also includes a generous helping of the more country rock style the band would focus on during the first couple of years of the new decade. More country, less psych-although epic journeys were still made, the focus was beginning to change-and this set demonstrates that quite nicely.

Also nice to see hippychick back, lubricious as ever.

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