Grateful Dead

Glad you understood and more so glad you’ve had the pleasure of all those awesome DSs....
Dont feel bad, I don’t know them all yet well enough to discern one from another either.
Frankly, I don’t know how all these guys have time 😉 I can usually tell what year something is, possibly even which tour, but unless I’ve spent a lot of time with a individual show, or there’s some obvious tell, I can’t id them like that.

I don't think you sound offensive at all...I know what you are saying about each Dark Star/Other One being unique...it'd be more difficult for a 20-30 minute, basically free-form song to sound the same each time...and I've heard the entire tour multiple times and there's no way I could listen to a random Dark Star from that tour and say, "oh, thats the one from Lille..." or something like that. But I might be able to tell the difference between a 72 Dark Star and 73 Dark Star...on a good day.

With the Seinfeld raincoat reference, I was reminded of the lone Grateful Dead reference in a Seinfeld episode. It is tough to make out, but visible to a discerning eye. In the airport pickup episode (George has to pick up Jerry and Elaine at the airport and gets rerouted twice between JFK and La Guardia), Kramer drives and there is a brief shot where the hood is slightly visible and there is clearly a Steal Your Face painted across the hood of Kramer's car. My theory is that Kramer likely wasn't a Deadhead, but picked up the car on the cheap...

Couldn't care less about story, dialogue, character development, plot points. Just give me the classic four behemoths battling it out for two hours and my inner child will smile, smile, smile.

And I love that they've made Mothra into an absolute badass, dive-bombing through the sky ninja-style.

Also in this episode was a take on Sing Me Back Home...not sure who was singing it but it was not a GD version. Merle Haggard would be the best guess, I suppose!

Roger that Mr. Daltrey but will definitely keep this head out of the front row 😊 won’t get fooled again...edibles don’t cut it for me unless they are fungal in nature.

You tube channel - Dave mentioned subscribing which I did but he also mentioned getting notifications? Does anyone know how to do that?

Looking forward to the box set...think it will be 80s!

Make it a Grate weekend Dead People!

KCJ

Buenos Dias Rockeros! Happy Friday.

MUSTIN321; I can relate to your feelings on E72. When that came out my thoughts were “that’s a lot of scratch for much of the same thing”. I had sorta taken a step back from the comprehensive Dead scene, so spending large chunks on yet more Dead didn’t make sense then......but then I turned into a total Dark Star Freak. Yea, the longer, bigger, and weirder the better! So like you I started to buy the E72 shows ala carte, but unfortunately they sold out. So now I’ve been pissed at my self for not grabbing them all while I could.......not trying to contradict you, just throwing out the idea that those Dark Stars, and Other ones etc, are all very unique and you may want to check them out. I can totally understand not worrying 100% about the rest....so much Dead, so little tile etc.....but you oughta try and check out those monster Jams....”Primo” as our amigo Love My Girl would say! Hopefully this isn’t offensive or didn’t come out wrong, just hoping I can spare others the same grief, and personally, nothing transports me these days like getting my space suit on and firing up a monster DS!

The Who. Like the Stones, always had sort of a love/hate thing going on...love the amazing music they produced, live sort of hit or miss, but both could be sorta douchey sometimes. The Who particularly turned me off with all their retirement/comeback cash ins, and Pete can be a pompous ass. But fortunately I try and appreciate artists, professionals, even politicians somewhat for what they do at work and not their personal BS. You know “judge yee not....” etc. So that being said, they are still pretty dam good, especially by today’s standards. Too me it’s worth checking them out just for Zac if nothing else. Dude is awesome and can total bring that Moon shit like no other, amazing! And of course Pino’s pedigree speaks for itself. Pete’s Pete, and Daltry’s hanging in there considering his physical issues. If he asked nice, and someone was a douche, then yea, he should tell em to “bugger off mate”
Besides, if your going through all the motions to go see someone you really dig, wouldn’t you want to get the best performance possible?

BOX SIZES; you would think at this point they would mostly hit that 3-6 show mark, because besides those Fall 80s shows what else could they really gather enough quality material for a large box. As Jim said you have to wonder if there adding, well not filler, as we appreciate all the shows in some way or another,...like little blessings from the Tape Gods...but some folks even spoke of this with the PNW box last year i.e., that perhaps some of the shows were not equal to others in the box....of course we picky Heads always want the best and have high standards, but it has to be somewhat challenging to overcome all the different variables to produce the actual final product. So to produce a great box with a different theme ala PNW, yea, they might have to slip a B+ or A- show in there sometimes....how many tours were totally A+ consistent throughout? E72, spring 90, Fall/Winter 73, spring/summer 77 and ??
Like it or not, we do live in a capitalist society, and Rhino isn’t doing all that work just to feed our Jones. So marketability has to factor in too. That’s why I don’t see the whole enchilada happening with the Fall 80 stuff....perhaps a 2 or 3 part over time like they did with spring 90? (If the tapes exist?)
So it does seem like when you consider all that, that the 3-6 show sweet spot is probably best, and more affordable, especially if/when they get into the later stuff as that was their touring MO.; i.e., 3 show runs. Can you imagine say releasing only two of a three or four night run. For sure some folks would be bummed because the one show they skipped was their personal...(fill in the blank)....hell just consider how some of us felt about which late 71 shows, or the Berkeley 72 shows were picked or not for Dave’s? The bottom line is we’re spolied rotten and though the process may not be perfect, the stuff we get is all pretty dam sweet! I just wish they’d stop the limited addition stuff so folks who can’t pull the trigger for what ever reason can perhaps score stuff later, wether still retail/new or on the secondary market. The PTB don’t seem to have any problems with the pre-sale methodology like the 50th anniversary stuff. So don’t see why they couldn’t do that with boxes. You would think after all these years they have a pretty good idea of how certain things will sell. So set a target number, roll out the pre-sales, then redial in your actual production runs accordingly? Sorry to ramble, just a thought....

Be well Dead people and have a great weekend!

After years of being told it was a great show, I finally started watching it this spring. Paul Giamatti is fantastic. I got through about four episodes and gave up. A little too unrealistic for me and I just had a hard time buying into the plot line. I prefer Silicon Valley. To me it is far more realistic and cutting edge. Very sarcastic and funny as hell. At least until T.J. Miller left the show. A ton of quick barbs. "Our platform does exactly what it says it does. It's not like we're fucking lying, like Theranos."

The Who is still touring? Can't be. I saw them on their farewell tour back in 1982. Two days after my first Dead show. That was a good weekend.

I'll give a nod to a Carrier Dome release. At least we could finally hear the AJS from 84 in its full glory. Given a choice though, I would take the summer 85. 6/27 - 7/1. More varied set lists and some rare songs. Down at the Bottom, Superstitious, Keep on Growin, Cryptical, etc. I'm doing this from memory, so I am sure there are more.

Oro is correct. Saratoga was always a blast. We were at 84 and it rained like hell. The rain continued straight through to the 85 show. It rained in 88 too. Something about that place attracts bad weather. We were fortunate enough to get inside the pavilion. 6/30 gets all the love, but 6/27 was my favorite of the tour. High energy, a long first set and a unique second set. Double encore too if I recall.

A long, long drive through the night to Hershey. Rain, construction and more rain. Why is it that the highways in PA are perpetually under repair? It has been that way my whole life. Another soaker in Hershey. I know a lot of folks like this show. I don't, but will take it as part of a box. The skies finally parted in MD. Two great shows to end our tour. The more I look back upon it, in my opinion, it was the last great summer tour.

Good catch on the Casey Jones played on Billions. But the truly insane part of that episode that would have made KeithFan2112's head explode was when they played the intro to 2112 during the spin class. I feel quite confident that is the first time that has ever happened and am also quite sure Rush never thought that particular piece of music would ever hit a popular tv show. Tom Sawyer, maybe, but 2112? Madness!!!

Good morning and happy Friday Heads! May is truly a glorious time for deadheads! There are so many excellent shows played in May over the years...It has been hard for me to stay on top of the listening to May shows in chronological order. Right now I'm enjoying a show from last years box set played in Vancouver on this day in 1974. While I eagerly amount the announcement for the upcoming box set, I would be lying to say I am not in over my head. What are your thoughts on the PNW 73/74 box? There was never much discussion on these shows. Enjoy the day and weekend ahead.

Excellent rebuttal of criticism regarding Daltrey and smoke. Nothing against weed, but if the man feels it diminishes his performance, be polite and stop or go somewhere to toke up. I missed Keith Moon but I've seen them with Entwistle, the finest bassist I ever saw perform live.

Today's Who is outstanding, actually... Ringo's son, Zak Starkey flies around the kit like Moon and Pino Palladino capably fills Entwistle's shoes. After all these years Pete has become a fine rock guitarist. They're trying to sneak in a new song or two but the set list generally kills.

After the Stones come through town, I'm taking my 8 year old son to see The Who. He's seeing The Who and The Rolling Stones in the same summer. Lucky kid.