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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    you wrote: "I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc."

    Charlie, this is the hurdle that everybody has to get over in a technology shift. The mentality has always been about ownership.

    But gradually, people are going to streaming. Why? Let's say you spend $200 on a few CD's and special releases annually. But then you realize a service (Apple Music or whatever) costs $10 a month ($120/yr = 80 savings) for ALL of them PLUS ALMOST ALL THE OTHER MUSIC IN THE WORLD. You'll go broke trying to buy everything you want "a la carte". The streaming model is coming together folks, and it makes sense. Stay tuned.

    Buying DVD's and Blue Ray right now is like buying 8 track tapes in 1979. I did it! And 2 years later I felt like an idiot. And sure they work great if you' stay in 1979 forever. But then suddenly it's 1983 and YOU'RE the guy/gal still proudly "collecting" 8-track tapes while everyone goes to CD! Don't be that guy.

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    Good Evening Rockers!

    I've been keeping up with the E72 shows, so that's a good sign, but to be honest, it's always the May Dave's Picks that derails me.

    There's a huge gap between the 4/17 Tivoli show and the Rockin' The Rhein show of 4/24, so I've been wearing the shit out RTR. The Dark Star => Wharf Rat => Sugar Magnolia is really just something else altogether. I keep playing it over and over, trying to figure out the Dark Star. This medley is one of my favorite extended Dead pieces of all time.

    I think tomorrow I'll move on to Hundred Year Hall.

    Now it's time to switch over from E72 to something else. I'm avoiding 1970 for now, to keep that period pristine for "the arrival". Maybe I'll go with that great Playing In The Band from DaP 18. Or the DaP 17 second set medley would be kind of tasty - there's a really good Eyes of the World => China Doll on that one. Not to mention the WRS => Jam. Or do I just Go To Nassau and rock out to that killer Jack Straw => Franklin's Tower opening combo......

    CD guy here. Think of how boring release day would be with nothing to open.

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    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out…

    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out a Dave's Picks before you even ship it? Go out on a limb and produce 30,000 instead of 20,000. if you don't order it the day it is released, you can't get it. I'm tool old to chase this shit. I'll just download a bootleg, although I'd rather buy it from you. Only, you won't allow that to happen. Wisen up guys.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    CDs, Video in the current era

    FTW and Dead & Co have made it possible for people who got into the music after Jerry died to experience the songs live.
    It’s not the same, but they never saw the real thing, and don’t have a standard to compare to. It’s still better than what else is on tour these days.
    This has brought in new recruits who also are buying releases (and scalpers too).
    Seems that CD sales, at least, will continue for a while.

    But I would still like some video too.

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    Whatever else is going on in the outside world, CDs are expanding in this niche market. Blu Ray disc sales might do ok here if the source quality were good, but as noted, all of the worthy candidates are available already. Sunshine Daydream, Movie Soundtrack, whatever else.

    CDs are on the rise here, and will at least plateau at 20K for awhile, if not rise some more next year. The completely unique selling opportunity of having so many otherwise unavailable shows in the Vault gives Rhino a marketing advantage to do the Limited Edition thing and collect $100 from almost 20K subscribers a year. It will take many more years for that number to go back down to 12,000, where it started. If 12,000 was good in 2012 then it will still be good 5 years from now, should the instant sellouts cease. It's the only place you can get it, and it's on CD in limited quantities. There would have to be a huge offer from some streaming company for Rhino to turn their back on this marketing schema. And I doubt that's going to happen, because the music still has to be engineered before it's ready for release.

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    I’m not always in front of the TV while they are playing, but I can still hear them.
    Being able to see the TV from the kitchen is also key, you can listen while you cook and occasionally look at the TV.

    I watch less than 10 Hollywood movies per year, and rarely current releases.
    I try to watch Strange Brew and Big Lebowski at least once a year, both of which I have on DVD.

    But concert video, I watch that a lot.
    Just watched Hard Working Americans - First Waltz this weekend.

    I have Sunshine Daydream on DVD and Blu Ray, the BR has higher resolution audio, which is reason right there to put stuff out on BR.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Live streams - sometimes (if it’s free), I think that the only time I paid for a live stream was FTW 6-27-15 and it kept freezing/buffering.
    My BR/DVD player doesn’t freeze/buffer. I also don’t need an internet connection to watch discs.

    I did watch the two WSP free streams this weekend at Sweetwater 420 Fest. No freezing with that.

    I do watch YouTube concert videos on my TV (using the home theater for sound) to check out other bands besides GD. The recent discussions of Spirit sent me looking for video and the Rockpalast show was great. Then Daverock and Simonrob informed us that a bunch of Rockpalast shows were on DVD, which some people were happy to know about.

    As far as GD, yes I want video on physical media, just like the audio.

    Yes, a lot of people in the general population stream. In fact, several companies are betting big time on that being the future, as well as streaming audio.

    How many people on this site want future Dead releases to be stream only?

    Jim,
    The John Deere is looking good. You must have parked it indoors over the winter and then gave it a wash/wax.

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    it's hard to find the TIME to sit down to enjoy a show on video, and with my two non-Deadhead loved ones at home...

    gimme CDs because I can take them in my car, to various places in the house, etc.

    I would love to revisit the DVD of Closing of Winterland, but I would need the house to myself for 6+ hours.

    Someday, my lads...someday.

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    I think I'm in the minority, but I have a really hard time watching the dead in concert on a tv screen. The Grateful Dead movie was really cool but I have a hard time lasting long with videos like Alpine or any of the Meet Up events. Couple songs at the most. I can't even do couch tour. Different strokes I guess...

    Thin and others are correct - most people aren't buying DVDs or CDs. People are streaming their shows and music, choosing to listen or watch what they want, when they want it. If Dave is talking about different formats, he almost certainly is referring to streaming, whether it be on your phone, computer or TV.

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    Nice little show from this day...

    https://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd.miller.34767.flac16/gd86-0…

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

The clues have dried up and we are already at the end of May. The PNW box is still available for those that do not have it yet.
I was looking through the liner notes of the Dead Set reissue. For disc 2, they have songs from the Warfield dates and Radio City, which would lead me to believe they would have had the full shows when they completed that reissue. Maybe this year is the year we get that fantastic run! I need more Shakedown Streets.
If not 1980, my guess would be a late 80's Shoreline run.
Hopefully next week is the week??

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I just saw that real gone music is releasing road trips vol 3 no 3 June 14th.

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when I hear the opening notes I go "uhh".

never was a fan.

oh, I've listened to plenty of them, and still do, but..."not Lovelight _again_!!!"

"I get action from my piggly wiggly woman..."

snore

then the band jams hard on it which is good

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...a grateful day to everyone!
Speaking of the AOXOMOXOA (50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION) release,
the dead.net store is sold out/out of stock as of right now. Wow! That’s a grateful positive sign for the band and the fans! Excited for this release... take care everyone, god bless.
🙏❤️😎

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...I’m listening to the Grateful Dead’s ‘Road Trips Vol.1 No.2’ Bonus Disc as I write this post.
Recordings included on the donus Disc come from 10/7/77, 10/11/77, 10/14/77 & 10/16/77.
Sweet Set-list...’Scarlet Begonias>>Fire On The Mountain , Estimated Prophet, Loser, Sunrise, Iko Iko>>The Wheel>>Wharf Rat>>Sugar Magnolia’ !!! PRIMO lol 🙏❤️😎
PS. I posted this before but Incase anyone missed it, Dead.net store has the Road Trips Vol.1 No.2 ‘October 77’ available to purchase and for $20 you can’t go wrong. The few copies available from dead.net also includes the Bonus Disc ! I mentioned above the contents of the set-list. So for $20 you recieve 3 CDs of primo Grateful Dead music from one of their greatest tours durning the Dead’s history. It still makes me smile that started from the 2008 release date!
Rock on my brothers & sisters, peace be with you all! 🙏❤️😎

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https://archive.org/details/gd92-05-31.sbd.paino.544.sbefail.shnf/gd92-…
....H>S>F and a Scarlet>Fire in the same show. A very nice Picasso Moon. A lilting Attics and Steve Miller sat in from Spoonful to the end of the show. I took my younger sister to this one and dosed her. I remember her & I sitting in our car after the show people watching until they made us leave. She bought a grilled cheese in the lot, proceeded to open and close the slices of bread, amazed at how the cheese stretched then would reform it its original form when she closed the bread slices back together. I don't think she ever ate it. She's a good looking woman and I had to keep fending off my friends from hitting on her. Good times....

...in case anyone was looking for it (I was), Dead & Co just dropped webcast info for Summer tour. They waited til like the last possible second considering it starts tonight....just sayin'.

VGuy, I concur - that is a pretty good show from this end...

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I'm not a love light fan either, generally speaking...but 5/24/72 was basically the only version I knew for years, as it was a bonus track on Rockin' The Rhein. It's 12 minutes with no rapping and some of the most unique jamming theses guys did. To each his own, but I'd hate for you to miss out on something special. But I could be too late. The half hour piggly wiggly pocket ball versions may have ruined it for life. I shit you not, if I had only 3 Pigpen tunes to take to my desert island, the 5/24/72 Lovelight would be one of them. Good luck.

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....sweet! What's also sweet, is that nugs is offering a free stream tonight of the Unlimited Devotion Rex Foundation Benefit. They're also streaming the JRAD show in Eugene tonight. Let's see....TV, PC & Tablet. I'm all set! Dead & Co is only in HD? No SD?

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Hi All,
I am slightly late to ABB discussion. However recently over on the Grateful Dead Guide blogspot, the author posted a great and thorough comparison of The Dead and ABB. Now I am fairly certain the point of this was more to showcase the times each band shared the bill and/or collaborated on stage together. Still the author does go into detail about what ABB members thought of the Grateful Dead and such. I am not going to review all of this but rather I am sharing the link below so all of you can check it out if you feel like it:

https://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-dead-and-allmans.html

For me personally I love the ABB. I saw them twice with their version of the Core Four in the line up: Greg, Dickey, Butch and Jaimoe. I also saw the line up several times that included Warren, Oteil, and Derek. I always had a good time at their shows and I felt they really went after it when they jammed. Interestingly, the last time I saw the ABB was in 2008 when they played in State College, PA. Also on that bill that night was The Dead…

I loved Roguedeadguy’s description of each band; that was spot on. I will say when it comes down to it for me though The Grateful Dead always were able to hit me on an emotional level that ABB couldn’t. As a matter of fact, The Grateful Dead are really the only band that has the ability to take my heart, mind, and soul on journeys. Besides this The Grateful Dead did have many innovative ideas that they pursued which I also think have made them second to none. For the ABB though, that early period of 69-73 is tremendous. I have not heard any shows from 74-76, and I know they started to unravel in those years as band turmoil took over. Yet with the band losing two of it’s main members in succession and still being able to produce great music and jams is quite amazing if you ask me. My only issue with the ABB is that since they did not have the innovations that the Grateful Dead had there is a lack of live material from them. Of course there is a lot from 1971 and that is important as not only did they have both Duane and Berry then but that was a peak year the band as well. However from what I have heard form 72 and 73 those years are pretty good too. Outside of a few radio broadcast bootleg CDs and one release from 72 and two from 73 there is not much material from those years out there.

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I still will listen to Lovelight, but my initial reaction is always...uhh.

I listen for the jams

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...CD back in stock at Dead.net store! Ha that was quick lol 🙏❤️😎

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... I’m playing ‘ Ladies & Gentlemen’ The Grateful Dead - Fillmore East NY April 1971!
Love this release , CD 1 ‘Good Lovin’ is primo Pigpen version, excelent add lib and the band is on fire! 🙏❤️🤠

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I'd bet a dollar a doughnut (there's a phrase that needs updating, time to raise pinky to lip), but I JUST got confirmation of the cancellation of my mistaken second order. So the "system" worked for me, but maybe this means if you order two of something by mistake (or otherwise), you can cancel your order and it will be returned to the 'general' pool of availability, vs if you offered to the boards first. This would limit a limited thing to maybe(?) a group of people who wait everyday for such a thing. Or not, obviously more 'heads' out there, then there are here and they deserve an equal shot at the returned item.

sorry for the interruption

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Beatles for Sale - Beatles
Vancouver 6/22/73 - Grateful Dead
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis, been too long since my last listen, cool album.
Pet Sounds (mono) - Beach Boys, a classic album from start to finish, but Caroline No really does it for me.

Currently revisiting Electric Larryland by the Butthole Surfers, an album with some weird and cool stuff, especially Pepper at high volumes.

I don't mind the sun sometimes
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips
And smell you in my clothes
Cinnamon and sugary
And softly spoken lies
You never know just how to look
Through other peoples eyes

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some goooooood psychedelia

Locust Abortion Technician

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Why would a sold out aoxo. cd be a positive sign for the Dead and the fans?

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being sold out means that 50 years after its release, this ol' band's material still has legs.

long live the GD!

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Makes sense. Also, Crosby,stills and nash still sell over a million albums a year. Now that's staying power! P.S not including newer albums.

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I don't know. Oh! 4/8/72.

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The last one listened too.. of course. 11/8/69, Fillmore Auditorium.

Dark Star
The Other One
Dark Star
Uncle John's Band Jam
Dark Star
St. Stephen
The Eleven
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)
Feedback
And We Bid You Goodnight

Holy Cow.. I was exhausted just from the totality of what transpired during my morning bike ride.. Not to mention what happened in the afternoon.

While listening to it.. I wondered... when was the first time they went into The Other One without the Cryptical.. without doing That's It For The Other One? If nobody knows it offhand I might have to figure it out.

Going into The Other One, especially Dark Star > The Other One makes a powerful statement. Powerful indeed.

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Driving home from work. Spent the whole day working on a dispute letter, 12 pages, to avoid paying for services I didn't order. These motherfuckers have been chasing me down for 4 years, from one collection agency to the next. Fuck them fuck them fuck them.

Jimbo I'm going to go with the Academy Music run in March of 72. I'm almost positive they didn't play it on any of the other ones there, I know they played it late into December '71on Dave's Picks 22 and 26 right?

And now I'm going back to May 24th 1972, me and my uncle. I need to turn it up to 35 and Listen to Jerry rip the shit out of this solo again. Let's just hope my EZPass works. Shity fucking day.

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"My friends call me Keithfan you can call me John?" What the hell does that mean? Lol. Sounds like Abbott and Costello or something.

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To state the obvious, if you have one this may be good news-if you don't-then maybe less so. Not referring to Aoxomoxoa, specifically-just things in general.

My last two have been 4/17/72 followed by 4/21/72, after a gap of a month from E72 shows. Excellent in every respect-and possibly the best recorded sound of a Stratocaster not being played by Jimi Hendrix. Or Jeff Beck.

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Furthering our discussion on this monumentally important topic . . . and kind of related to MD Jim's question . . . are there any instances where they went into TOO cold . . . as in they concluded the prior song, stopped playing, and then "BA-DOO-BA-DOO-BA-DOO-DOO-BA-DOO-BAAAAAAAA" straight into a ripping TOO?

They would do that with Dark Stars, and with the full Cryptical - TOO Suite, I just can't think of one where The Other One didn't spawn from another song.

Anyway I love Other Ones, often times more than Dark Stars. Dark Stars really call for a careful, focused listening which isn't always practical. Other Ones I can just rock out to anytime anywhere.

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1. Dave's picks 25- Binghamton
2. Bruce Springsteen - The River
3. Allman Brothers - 6-24-1996 SPAC
4.Daves 27 - Boise
5. Pure Jerry volume 7 - Hampton 1991

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Fuck them 1000x

Everybody comes after a persons money

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Saw that Rocky Erickson of the 13th Floor Elevators died. I always dug the Elevators, served as regular background music during a sustained period of psychedelic wandering.

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Roky!

Thank you for the music, my man.

I know whats on todays playlist.

A raise of the glass the three eyed man

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Really sorry to read of the death of Roky Erickson. "Psychedelic Sounds Of.." and "Easter Everywhere" have been on my regular playlist since I first heard them in 1978. The Elevators have gone down in history, with The Dead, a being pioneers of psychedelic rock-but Roky was a great vocalist in his own right, irrespective of the era that has come to define him. But he was also truly mythic. I only saw him once, in 2007. He mainly played songs from his first solo album, "Five Symbols" with only "You're Gonna Miss Me" cropping up from the Elevators song book. But it was a great gig - all the abuse he suffered-but that voice remained-pure as ever.

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Nothing scary about this, wtf. A few minutes in and everything's sunshine and butterflies.

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Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! That sun should have gone down hours ago!

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As I live and breathe...a Billy Saluga reference here...never would of imagined it...thank Dennis

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... listening to this gem of a show now. Man, I think this would make a great release. Dave, hello? Dave? What about Gainesville? Dave?

Anyone else agree? ;)

Peace

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But Bruce string bean sucks. Sorry

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Ya know, scrolling through my Music Bee, looking at these shows, the FLA 80 run (11/26,28,29) are overall really good and unique shows. Would make a cool 3-show box, if the tapes are usable.

If you haven't checked these shows out, they are all strong. Also, electric versions of a lot of the acoustic tunes from Reckoning... electric Deep Elem? Yep, it's awesome. The Sportatorium show has a Cold Rain 2nd set opener, the Lakeland has a Stranger, To Lay Me Down 2nd set opening combo,... and then, there is Gainesville....

Anyway, these are some really great fall of 80 shows, worthy of recognition. Let's just hope the tapes are good. If not, there are good to better than decent AUDs of all 3.

Rock on, and happy weekend, DeadLand!

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It’s in the 30 Trips Box

But yeah, what about Gainesville?

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Otis my man! I don't often venture past Dead set and the Grateful Dead go to Nassau... But 1980 is a little bit of a sweet spot so I'm going to check out the Florida shows you recommend, thanks buddy.

Not for the light-hearted, as it is an audience recording, but put on some headphones and don't let anybody interrupt you for a half hour or so, and here's some of that magic similar to the Dick's Picks 16 medley that Jim was talking about yesterday. This is really really really good stuff, it is a tragedy that it's not in the vault. I'm sure this is not news to a lot of you, but I've had the 69/70 bug lately and this one really carried me off. It's definitely one you want to sit down and get in the right mood for if you know what I mean.

6/24/70

Dark Star =>
Attics Of My Life =>
Dark Star, Pt. 2 =>
Sugar Magnolia =>
Dark Star, Pt. 3 =>
St. Stephen

And there's no crime in staying tuned for the China Rider and Uncle John's Band that follows.

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-06-24.124175.cooper.berger.flac16/gd…

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It sounds like you're our authority on The Other One. I like how you're thinking - maybe come out for the second set to a completely dark stage and then just go wild with those rumbling opening bass notes; then crank on some lights when everybody else jumps in. For the Dark Stars it sounds like you need to be in the right frame of mind eh? I've kind of gotten hooked on them myself. I have a playlist that's all Dark Stars. Then I started integrating '72 / '73 Bird Songs and '73 / '74 China Cat Sun Riders. But there's nothing more satisfying in music these days for me than listening to Jerry noodle through Dark Star at high volume. The louder the better. I guess that goes without saying. You must really love DP 18' s The Other One from Feb '78. I'll bet you have a devastating top 10 list.

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Don't forget 11/26/80 Sportatorium - Pembroke Pines, Fl...the same site as DP3 5/22/77. 11/30/80 was DaP8.

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Damn Google Translator - you should see some of the shit this thing comes up with that I do catch and edit. Thanks

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You're welcome…I edited as well. I had to laugh out loud since I had just taken 2 (Dr. prescribed).

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If 11/26/80 & 11/29/80 are in the vault they could be combined with 12/12-14/80 if they're in the vault for a tasty 5 show box…

I think we may see some 4/78 shows as DaPs…when either DaP7 4/24/78 or DaP15 4/22/78 were released I seem to recall DL saying these were ear-marked for a '78 box…I think that box became the July '78 Box Set.

Any thoughts on either?

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