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  • paisley
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    C'mon Mary
    ...shall we go, you and I while we can... You mean to say that with your important position moderating this technical discussion that your bosses won't just buy you one? Maybe you could deduct it if you bought it yourself as a job-related expense! (Yuck Yuck Yuck) I can imagine that conversation with the IRS....
  • marye
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    that standalone burner sounds like the answer to my prayers. Now to win the lotto...
  • paisley
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    ...shall we go, you and I while we can... Hmmmm... so you don't think you're losing anything putting in that extra generation? cassette>DAT>stand alone burner must sound good to you and I respect that. I wonder how they would sound to me...anyway, whichever way your pleasure tends!
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    I've enjoyed reading this thread - thought I'd put in my two cents. In order to maintain the best sound quality with cassette to CD transfer it is really best to just use audio equpiment - forget about a computer.Don't get me wrong, I love computers and am very actively taking part in the "new" digital age of music sharing, but sometimes the old trusty gear is still the best way to go. Going directly from a tape deck into a standalone CD burner keeps the sound "pure." That is, no file conversions, downsampling, dithering, etc. that you may get when using a computer. I have no doubt that making tape to CD transfers can be accomplished successfully with a computer - it just gets complicated with all the software choices, file type choices, compression choices, etc. Using good ole audio equipment is just more straightforward and easier for this old school trader. I read that some of you are putting an EQ between your tape deck and standalone CD burner. I've often considered doing that myself, but have always chosen just to leave the cassette source unaltered, transfer it to CD, and then EQ it while I listen. I do, however do one thing a little differently than the other folks who have posted here. Rather than go directly from cassette to CD, I record to DAT first. Here's my setup: Nakamichi DR-3 cassette deck > Tascam DA-40 DAT deck > Sony CDR-W33 standalone CD burner There are two reasons why I make the analog to digital conversion via DAT rather than CD. 1)As mentioned in previous posts, when burning directly to CD, you have to push a button on the fly to insert track start ID's. You can't just burn the whole CD, then go back and add the start ID's later. Because DAT is a magnetic tape media, rather than optical, it is totally editable after the recording process. I just hit play on the Nak, record on the DAT, and let 'er go. Then, when the recording's done, I can go back later and write the start ID's exactly where I want them. Much easier to get the start ID's in just the right spot for things like Alligator > Caution > Feedback, than doing it on the fly. 2) The A/D converters in my Tascam DA-40 are superior to the ones in my Sony CDR-W33. The results I get with this setup are excellent. I use DAT to record vinyl to CD also with excellent results. That's more than enough of my rambling, for now - I just love talking about this stuff! On a side note . . . anyone still trading DAT's. If so, let me know . . .
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    I Use A Software Program That Captures Live Streams And Converts To MP3's. The Problem I Am Having Is The Music Cut's Off When Changing Tracks. As You Know Alot Of Song's Turn Into Other Song's IE:Cryptical>The Other One>Cryptical. I Get Silence When The Seperated Tracks Change. Is There Software To Clean It Up To Make A Contius Flow Like A Live Store Bought Album?
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    I don't know what kind of analogue/digital converter this unit uses, and the owner's manual doesn't go into that aspect. As for the recording files, the unit records actual audio files in the Red Book standard. In other words, the HHB 830 creates digital audio files that are the same as those on a manufactured CD. They are not wave, mp3, FLAC, shn or ape files.Some additional information for those who may be interested is that you can record from LPs and DAT sources. In addition to the RCA jacks, the unit has digital coaxial and optical inputs for recording from digital sources. It also has a built-in sampling rate converter, which allows it to automatically adjust to the digital source, from 32kHz to 48kHz. It will also allow you to copy 44.1kHz DTS and HDCD discs. I have copied some of my LPs to CD-R using this recorder, and some of them sound better than the commercial CD releases. It will accept all recordable CD formats (CD-R, CD-RW, and Audio CD-R), so you can use the same discs you use when burning via your computer.
  • paisley
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    ...shall we go, you and I while we can... I'm that old,too!! do you know the process by which this happens? I mean what kind of analogue/digital converter there is in that machine and what kind of files it makes to load onto the disc? Just curious...
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    I have been transferring my old cassettes and reels (yep, I'm THAT old!) for a couple of years now. It's a time-consuming process, to be sure, but the results are worth it. I have found that most of the programs and devices that connect from your tape deck directly to your computer result in CDs of considerably lesser quality that your original tapes. I am using an HHB 830 "Burn It" CD recorder that hooks up to my stereo system just like a tape deck. It works just like a tape deck, too, except you record to CD-Rs instead of tapes. It makes perfect copies. You can easily adjust levels and balance, and it has an adjustable fader feature for smoothing out the beginning and/or end of your recordings. Hook the HHB up to your tape jacks, and the tape deck to an AUX input, and record from the tape deck to the CD recorder just like you recorded cassettes in the old days. You can insert track indexes as you go by pushing one button. When you're done, you push 2 buttons, the disc is finalized in about 2 minutes, and you can play it on just about any CD player. This is a professional recorder, and is used by lots of musicians to make their own demo CDs. I saw a picture of Danny Elfman (composer of music for "The Simpsons" and many other movies and TV shows) in a magazine interview, and he had one of these units in his equipment rack in his own studio. I paid about $500 for mine at Sam Ash Music, and they have stores all over the country, or you can order online. It's the best 500 bucks I've spent on recording gear in a long time.
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    I have several east coast shows recorder on a converted Sony Beta machine (it was a better format than VHS) Problem is it was stolen. I have tape and no way to play them . Question is does anyone still have one they can lend, rent or sell? The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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    I recorded a whole bunch of shows on a converted sony beta max, strictly audio only.( Beta was the truly better format). There were lots of folks doing this back in the day.Problem is my converted Sony machine was stolen. Is there any one out there or FURTHER OUT THERE that still has a Beta Audio machine that they are willing to ;give, lend or rent? The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Depending on which website you download from and what format you want to end up with, you'll need to have a computer hard drive with lotsa memory, good organizational skills to store, identify and locate the downloaded files, and a program to create the sound you want to hear. Traders download shn and flac files, converting them (thru expansion) into .cda or .wav files normally associated with conventional cd's. mp3 players utilize compressed files (.mp3). Tunes we trade in the Vineyard should never come from an mp3 file, due to the higher potential for corrupt or defective sound bytes. Do you already have software such as EZ CD Creator or Nero? I'm sure there are plenty of software choices out there. In order to expand the shn or flac files, visit www.phillesh.net, which has a good reference page on it's Download page, for downloading, converting and recording cd's. Also check www.eTree.org So many roads to ease my soul...Ease my soul!!
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Lately, I've had significant delays in successfully completing downloads from bt.etree.org. Is there a torrent tool to ease the process? I routinely clear space on my hard drive to enable storage, but the download speed is intolerably S L O W
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I have 1000+ GD show tapes with about 150 masters of either soundboard>D5 or various studio quality mics to D5 or Nak 550. I'm planning a once-in-a-lifetime transfer of these cassette tapes to digital and would like to discuss with an experienced individual issues such as analog playback, A/D hardware/conversion rates, and software. Thanks, John
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help! i knew how to download shows onto my pc from telasugarmegs. now i have a macbook and i can't figure out what to do. can someone help me? i am not that swift when it comes to computer stuff. you can email me at teenymonkey@hotmail.com or leave a message here.
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I just bought some Memorex DVD+R and the first 5 would not work. At first I thought my burnner was busted. Then my wife game me some HP dvds she had and they worked fine. I tried some in the middle of the Memorex stack and they worked too, I was just the first 5 that didnt. Has this ever happened to anyone else??
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Never had a problem with Memorex CDs, must've burned like 3000 by now, and it's only recently I've started burning DVDs (this damn vine addiction, I tell ya ) so I naturally picked Memorex. Now, occasionally, I'll have an issue burning DVDs (near the end of a burn my screen will go black and I have to do a hard reboot; it's happened with two different burning programs) but I don't think it's disc related - then again, wouldn't hurt to try the hp's. Especially with Vinezilla approaching ;*D ! Always thought that Memorex guy in the chair getting his hair blown back was pretty cool, though. Maybe you just got a bad stack of discs. I did get a bad stack once, but they were obviously damaged and I got them returned/replaced. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Ok, so I am new to all of this and no matter how I try, I cannot copy the files properly. I right click in tapers section and copy to my desktop. It does not offer me to download. Once copied to desktop I think its as an html, I cannot do anything with it. I have iTunes on my computer if that makes any difference... I look forward to the assistance because in my world marriage and 2 boys has been one long strange trip and at times I just need to get back to the good ole grateful dead.
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the tapers section clips are streaming only, no download.
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Thanks. so that means its for our listening enjoyment only when we are online and not when we please right?
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Yes, sbarer, you can only listen when online, you can't download them and burn them on CD.
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hey i posted a bit ago if anyone could help me with telasugarmegs and a mac. any takers???
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I've never messed with the sugarmegs site, but just from reading over it a bit it looks like the site wants Windows Media Player. I'm guessing there is a version of WMP that's ported to the Mac operating system, you might install it and see if sugarmegs is then happy with your Mac. Alternatively, Microsoft has Media Player plugins that will allow the Mac's built-in Quicktime software to deal with Media Player files. Here's the Microsoft webpage to get you started: www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/mac/default.aspx Hope this helps, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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With the 09' tour tickets coming up for sale next week, does anyone know if they are still doing taper tickets?? I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row. Thanks for any replys... Capturing Live Audio...One Show At A Time...http://db.etree.org/gratefulbrad
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Would any of the vinners/seeders be interested in a vine with the Trader's Little Helper program. I could include TLH and some easy to follow instuctions, and maybe some cool shn/flac files to practice with. Even if some of you dont keep the shn/flac files in the vines, your cd's will sound better if they were burnt from them instead of wav. If anyones interested we could get it started.
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I am looking for info on taper ticket ordering procedure. GDTSToo isnt clear on the pricing for the tickets. I could use some assistance if anyone in the know could help with questions plz call me (334)354-5998. Or post a link with a tutorial from the ground up on how to get tix, to best equipment, to do's and donts. I am pretty green, but eager to learn.~Philip 42% of all statistics are made up.
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The prices are clear...true. They just dont indicate if you have to pay for the higher tier tickets for taper tickets. And in the case of Greensboro there are 3 pricing tiers. I found out from the GD hot line that all the taper tix must be purchased at the upper tier price except shoreline which offers taper tickets for the lawn. I am not sure which of the upper tier prices is required for Greensboro. Any other info is always appreciated. I am brand new at this so pardon my ignorance in advance, if I dont sound like an old pro, or make common sense assumptions that a veteran taper would. ~Philip 42% of all statistics are made up.
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I've mailed away to GDTS for taper's tix for the cali shows on the spring tour. If I get them what equipment do I need to tape the shows? How does the tapers section work? I've always dreamed of recording the shows I was at, and this is my first chance. Any help will be much appreaciated. thx Longrifle
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i made a vid using 2 tunes as background for a video I made and just found it was pulled for copyright violation - it said --- Your video, Grateful Fest 2008, may have audio content from Not Fade Away/Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad by The Grateful Dead that is owned or licensed by WMG. any suggestions from anyone on what to do - or am I at the mercy of WMG? pat in ohio
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GD Management mite call it copy right enfringement, what if you used dso tunes for gdtrfeelin bad, etc.,etc., could they get you for that??? Dude, just let me add that was a great U-tube video!!!! I hate to see it go, it really captured the essence of Nelsons Ledges!!Phatmoye
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(and others)--if you use a commercially released track for a YouTube video, yes, it is very likely to trigger the great RIAA computer in the sky and put the kibosh on your video. This is pretty much not news these days; it's related to the fact that when you import a purchased CD into iTunes, voila, it instantly knows what it is. That's the world in which we operate these days, for good or ill. If anyone runs into this issue with, say, the live version they taped in 1986, please say more.
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I don`t even copy vines or anything while i`m on line ... you never know what the great computer in the sky will do , or think ....
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RE: Longrifle - Taper's Tix / what equipment do I need to tape the shows. I see nobody has posted back for your question, so I'll try to answer it. You need to figure on being self sufficient (meaning being able to set your rig up independently - with no power or audio feeds) - but ready to capitalize on opportunities, if they arise (meaning have the patch cords available to take advantage if someone offers you a patch into the board). I would say, at a minimum, the equipment would be as follows: Battery powered tape recorder + extra batteries, Microphones & stands, Patch cords & head phones for monitoring, blank tapes. (or, these days, you could use a direct to hard drive recorder, if you have one). I don't believe they allow video recording, but I'm not sure on that. You could practice setting up your "rig" and recording various things, just to see how it goes & what you need. A collapsable stool *like a coleman camp stool) would be great, so you don't have to stand the entire time. PM me if you want more detailed information.
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Anyone know of a good source for itunes artwork when playing bootlegs? I've got about a 50:50 ratio of bootlegs & concerts (which don't have artwork) vs. owned albums & cds (which have artwork). Thanks
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I downloaded an old Stones concert last night (KC I.rar) I unzipped it, extracting the files to another folder where I now have several files w suffix .m4p Any idea how to put these on a cd? Are they similar to .wav and how do I convert ? First right answer gets a copy!
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http://www.psilo.com/dead/ This site has a ton of images of tickets, backstage passes and laminates listed by year and then by show. I just right click on an image, copy it and paste it into iTunes. It is great for bootleg shows. If you can't find an image there you might try wolfgangsvault.com. If all else fails I do a google image search for The Grateful Dead and copy something from there.
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I'd like to send my D7 DAT with a friend to the upcoming Shoreline show in May, to patch in with someone. I can't make it, unfortunately. Can any tapers who will be there send me a PM? Thanks.
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Hi folks,3 friends and I want to go in on abunch of digital downloads... we can't afford them solo. Anyone know how it would work if we try to share a few different shows on 4 or 5 computers. We aren't trying to pirate, etc... just get the music so we can afford it... thanks, Eric
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I have a question, attached to an enigma, wrapped in a conundrum. When I DL a torrent from somewhere like etree, I end up with a file with a name like gd71-10-21newd1t11.wav (after I convert from the flac or shn, only to wav lossless you understand, no mp3 for me!) There is no information attached to the file such as artist, track title, etc. that a file sharing program can recognize as a Grateful dead song. I have over 1000 shows on my drive I'd like to share. Is there a way to tell Windows to recognize ALL the files in a folder as a Grateful Dead song? I don't have time to go through 20,000 files and hit properties for each file and add the info. I guess I know what you are going to tell me already - I should just set up a site for file sharing and offer all this kind stuff as torrents. OK I just talked myself into it. Here's part 2 of the dillemma. I am pretty good with end-user stuff, but I've never even set up anything more complicated than a Myspace page. Dan anyone steer me to a source for step-by-step directions to set up a website with an archive that people can DL torrents from? I can tell your future, just look what's in your hand!
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can anyone help a brutha out. I need a few vhs dead stuff transfered to dvd. Of course you can have a copy. bruce
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Like duh. (Re: Alpine 89) No, I don't have any tapes to trade but I can and do produce professional quality audio. If anyone would like help polishing up a memory, I can certainly help with this. I'm actually looking for a full-length video of 7-19-89, as this is one of my personal memories, but I'll do this for free... just because I love you. ; ) (And, if such a thing should ever surface on the net, have faith that the proper credits will be given due in the tags and text.) My web addy is posted in my profile. Cheers.
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My server is down for a bit, but I don't want this floating and floating around out there anyway, so I uploaded these to a temporary host; if the files remain inactive for a month, they are automatically deleted. (Simply go down to the bottom of the linked pages and follow the link there to download.) Now... this is, more or less, a simple cleanup job. It can be taken a step or two further, depending on how loud and glassy one likes their audio (there is a sort of integrity with analogue recordings that can be a real touchy issue with audiophiles and, believe me, I understand completely) but, basically, what I am saying is that if you give me one of these: http://www.filefactory.com/file/a18a28h/n/DireWolf1.mp3 I can give you one of these: http://www.filefactory.com/file/a18a29b/n/DireWolf2.mp3 That's all! Enjoy.
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On archive.org when I download the mp3 files how do I access it on Windows Media Player? When I try to extract it, there are two copies of all the files and deleting one will delete the other. Is there a way to do this? Thank you.
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I have a new laptop with Windows 7. I have no state of the art audio software on it. I downloaded a bit torrent client called Vuze: it did eventually grab a feed off of eTree. Now that I have a bunch of FLAC files, what software works to convert the flacs to wav's? My XP pro desktop computer is now slower than molasses, but it does have an old converter called Flac Frontend. Does it work on Windows 7? Does anyone still use shn files? What's the best program for converting them? Ideally, one program for both file extensions is what I want. I have Windows Media as a player.
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Ok depending on what your doing with these files, to be honest its' best to leave them in flac, they sound better. But if you want to put them into Itunes you have to convert to mp3. So long story short the BEST media player around is free. It's called Winamp. It plays streams, flacs, mp3s, movies...almost everything. You don't have to use it for everything ( I use 4 different media players for reasons I won't bore you with) but this is my main one. You can also convert using this program. Which I will link up for you a help file. Winamp Converter Help Page Hope that helps. Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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what you need is Traders Little Helper (TLH). It does all sorts of conversions. It's what I and many others use. http://tlh.easytree.org/ Its quite easy to work out, this vid shows you how if you need help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjtvZGyWGAo but you will need a CD burning programme too once you have converted FLACs and SHNs to WAV with TLS. There should be a CD burner bundled in whatever is installed on your computer or there are lots you can download. Try burn4free.com good luck. PM me if you have any problems PM me if you need any more detailed help
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I just posted this in a different forum topic but anyone know a great freeware program that converts WAV to MP3? Does winamp do it? Please pm me or post the link here if you have a suggestion. Thanks in advance!
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to CD then rip the CD to MP3
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...thanks zepthompson that is a good idea, it would work...however for the sheer volume of the WAVs I need to do I would be wasting too many cdrs...still wondering about winamp...
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I am using Windows Media Player or Yahoo MusicMatch Jukebox to burn downloads or vines and I am wondering how to eliminate the pause between songs. Just cant seem to figure out how.. I know the people around here know their stuff and sure I will be pointed in the right direction. Thanks
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I am using Audacity to convert wav to mp3. I needed to install an additional .dll file but it was still fairly easy to do. Thanks for the input!
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Well, I suppose you can swat flies with hand grenades if you want to. You might also want to check out vlc. On linux, there is a nice simple, easy to use, lightweight tool called Gnome SoundConverter that will cheerfully render entire directories full ot tracks from one encoding format into a variety of others, including mp3 and OggVorbis. Since it's based on the gstreamer backend and built with GTK+ though, I wouldn't be looking for a windows port anytime soon. Or probably ever. As for burning seamless CD's, again on linux there is a tool called K3B that makes this rather simple. Just specify a gap of zero seconds between tracks and voila. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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I'am interested in an hdcd player. Does anyone know who maufactures them? Are they worth the cost? Thanks from the frozen North.
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Allis185: On my desktop pc, I use both Nero or Roxio's EZ CD Creator to make audio cd's composed with .wav files. In order to record or copy from a "good" cd, or from individual .wav files if you're custom-making a song list, select the Disc-At-Once (DAO) feature before recording or copying. I do not know if any free software will have the DAO function.
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.hey so i have been thinking about recording shows but have no idea where to start..like which mic's to use what kinda of recorder to buy ...etc... .any certain book to explain all the technical stuff.. do i need my own mixing board... my wife is part of the local music scene i realy what to record her jaming out. any info on where to start is highly appreciated.
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people record so much stuff on their phones and upload it to YouTube, I'm curious to know what the more serious are using...
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So I finally got my rig up and running and recorded my first show. The band is The Van Burens and they are amazingly good. Please take a listen and tell me what you think of my recording. If you really want to know about my rig sp c-4 > art preamp> pcm-m10. This track is raw no editing at all. jeffrey's world by muddy das
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Definiteky, for a first try. And the tune is quite good too. What instrument does your wife play?
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actual my is not on that but she does play tenor sax. The band is the van burens you should check them out. I think you would appreciate their sense of political humor.