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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Bummer, yea, that would haunt me for sure. Sorta understandable considering the context. Though did you hitch from Colorado and back? 1) good lord that must’ve been something in itself, and 2) if so, why go all that way for one show?
    Personally, only a couple that I missed that I really regret;
    10/26/89; had tix for both Miami shows and Philly, but couldn't swing Miami after guerrilla Hampton run, so sold Miami tix, Doooooo! Missing that Dark Star will always bum me out.
    3/26/88: only show I ever went to that I didn’t get in. So missed out double that night; not only the show with the only Stir It Up (hell any Hampton show I was at was a good one, perhaps my favorite indoor venue!), but also the great party in the lot across the street....I guess they had decent speakers set up and Healy was doing the FM thing then, so I heard it was quite the party! We had gone to visit friends staying elsewhere that also were shut out and when we returned to the Red Roof and heard we missed out AGAIN! we were truly bummed. That didn’t last long as the next night was “primo”...
    Had to sell tix to 6/28/88 off of that tour as I had to have upper GI and testing done at hospital, long strange saga there...sold tix to the 87 Wooooster shows, but we had done 8 previous and were, burnt, sorta broke, and honestly just not feeling it that much. Perhaps another 3 or 4 that I “should of” but that’s easy to say now, situationally, back then there were reasons though. But really just the 2 Miami and Hampton that I will always regret!

    73 RFK box: suppose Dead only sets would be ok if part of some other shows from that tour?
    Hell they could throw in that third set as a bonus if they ever do a Watkins Glen Box...(since you’d think that would entail the same logistical/legal BS)
    Don’t see a 73 Box in the near future though since their still selling PNW boxes....

    Dave’s 31 would be nice if he gave us that last unreleased 74 DS!

    Speaking of Boxes....WTF? You guys trying to kill us, we’re old and could die soon, where’s that box 😉

  • daverock
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    No doubt, you were young at a great time, musically, geographically, and pharmaceutically. In 1973 I was 16, but situated in the unlovely North West of England, with a soundtrack of Black Sabbath and Hawkwind . And washed down with great quantities of Newcastle Brown Ale. I wouldn't discover anything more exotic until I was 18. Still...being 16.....discovering live music....rock n' roll of whatever stripe-the walls of the city surely shake. Now as then.

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    my sympathies, Hendrixfreak

    i missed 6/26/94 after a lame-ass, wtf, 115 degrees Fahrenheit show on 6/25/94

    not nearly as comparable as 6/10/73. but hearing 6/26/94 on tape...I really wish that had been played on 6/25/94.

    I didn't get on the bus until 1982 (age 18), so I missed a whole lotta great shows.

  • stoltzfus
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    6/10/73 GD sets only?

    I am fine with that, especially if they release 6/9/73 with it.

  • hendrixfreak
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    the tragedy of 6-10-73

    If that subject line isn't click bait, I'm not a fisherman... (In fact, I'm generally not.) Anyhoo, there was a really good article (can't find the link, natch) on the efforts to release this show. As I recall, about five years ago, the GD had a package in which the best of both GD and ABB's performances from 6-9-73, 6-10-73, 7-27-73 and 7-28-73 were put together in a box set for sale. But it got the kibosh; probably too many decision makers (too many splits on the $$) and, one suspects, legalities. Personally, though I'd prefer all the shows intact, if it's nothing or a selection, I'd go with the highlights box.

    As to that tragedy... it's real, though the pain is somewhat muted at this point, 46 years later. 9 June 1973 was my second GD show. Me and a buddy caught a ride to DC Saturday morning and the GD opened, played all afternoon. We dosed. Temperatures probably 100 degrees. Little access to water. (A few water fountains for 20,000 people.) We retired to the shade of the stadium seats for the ABB, quite roasted in at least two senses of that word. The ABB came out and due to popping another blotter and the seats and shade and purple lights (and, oh yeah, very powerful music), the ABB just blew us (and the GD that afternoon) away. Must have been easier to get it on with the temperatures dropping and the mood picking up among the dusty denizens that had braved the sun for the GD. We slept on the grass outside the stadium that night, just t-shirts and jeans. Got up and with literally nothing in our pockets -- not a nickel, not a blotter, no nada -- we hitchhiked home. My godfather from Denver was visiting Sunday night (I loved him) and I had school the next day. Got fired from the HS varsity tennis team because I went to the GD show instead of a team party. (That was easy...) Mostly it was because we were 15 years old, penniless, exhausted, played out, with no conceivable plan for getting a ticket, eating, surviving. We'd never conceive of hanging out, asking for a free ticket. I'm still that way.

    Yes, you're reading the subtext correctly. We left on Sunday morning and that night the GD played an iconic set. Er, okay, three effin' iconic sets. I missed it.

    This type of experience, in a very small way, must have been common in those days. And I think the universality of my own experience among Deadheads led to the surge in the multi-night attendance strategy -- catch 'em all, cuz you never know when a hot one is coming. Still, I went on to catch Watkins Glen close up, two more nights of GD/The Band mere days later. (We learned mighty quick in those days.) And another GD show that September.

    I'll say this as a veteran, but with a little mischief in mind: six 1973 shows are worth 100 1980s shows, in terms of the "early" experience: the purity of the Purple Dragon, the expansive '73 sound, the band's evolution, the crowds, my youth. I never racked up big show numbers because how could that possibly matter? To me, the experience and what I learned would play out over years to come and that's what mattered.

    Still, we made sure we were onboard by '72, up front for Watkins Glen, and in attendance for every Red Rocks show -- not for the numbers, but if you live 20 minutes away, what the hell else are you going to do on a night when the GD are playing and all your friends are there? You go!

    These days the best I can do in terms of stamina of mind/soul is a two-nighter of Derek & Susan at the Rocks. (Yes! Only six weeks away!) As I age, I have growing crowd-tolerance issues, especially with the chattering youngsters, the phones, etc. OMG, I've entered the "Get Off M Lawn" zone!!

    Oh, what the hell. I started at 13 on live music with The Chambers Brothers in 1970 or '71, went on to the Byrds, New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble, GD, ABB, The Band, Red Rocks in 1974, Clapton, Freddie King, BB King, Albert King, Jer band, Roy Buchanan, Santana, Bonnie Raitt, Robert Hunter... a zillion more, all in the '70s. No wonder I'm a bit crisp and cranky!

    So I missed one of the most iconic GD shows ever, one that opened with "Morning Dew." Big deal.

    Aaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    "too many Allmans"

    sounds like a TV show.

  • Lovemygirl
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    ...I’m with you my man! 1979 1979 1979!!!
    One of my favorite years of the Grateful Dead Performances...One word, ‘Oakland’, says it all.
    Boxset! Primo. Most welcomed and have been waiting for ages to be packaged & released with all it’s grateful glory! A place the Dead later called “their second Home”! Just think about what that word means my brothers & sisters, HOME. I can write an essay on my beliefs of what HOME really means but I’ve been told and asked by some members that I “Shouldn’t”and “Don’t” write long posts, so I’ll end my message here my brothers and sisters.
    Enjoyed ‘Dicks Picks #7, September 1974 early this morning. Recorded by Bill Candelario on September 9th,10th and 11th, 1974 at Alexandra Palace in London, England. Love it! Audio Mix is very grateful indeed, on my system. 😉 enjoyed every minute!
    Have a ‘grateful day’ everyone, peace be with you all! 🙏❤️😎
    *been listening to ‘Road Trips Volume 3 Number 1’ CD release. The ninth in the Dead’s "Road Trips" series, it was recorded on December 28th 1979, at the Oakland Auditorium in Oakland, California, and contains the complete performance. The bonus disc included with some copies of the album was recorded two nights later, on December 30th 1979, at the same venue. The album was released in 2009, I cant beive it’s been that long! Bring on some More 1979 !
    Another “Primo” show from this run of concerts is ‘Dick's Picks Volume 5’, It was recorded on December 26, 1979 at the Oakland Auditorium Arena. It was also the first release of a full concert to feature my man, keyboardist, Brent Mydland! And if that’s not good enough for some folks, we are lucky enough to have ‘Betty Cantor-Jackson’s’ recording of the Grateful Dead’s performance in the “Vault” and released to fans. This show has a Killer Setlist with an impressive and fun performance of ‘Shakedown Street’ for one of the encore songs, the other being ‘Uncle Johns Band’, another primo version of this beloved song! All this talk of Dicks Picks 5 has got my blood flowing, I know what I’m listing to next,lol. 😉 Sorry for the long post folks, take care & Rock On!

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    Would it be sacrilegious to suggest that they release it without the 3rd set, which was the only set, as far as I am aware, visited by Merl Saunders and members of the Allmans? Just going off what MLB said-if the logistics of releasing this show prove too difficult due to guests involvement, then maybe it would be better to release the portion of the show which didn't involve them. I accept that it wouldn't be ideal-but the heart of the set, for me, lies in the first two sets anyway.

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    1984 the Hog Farm had a camp a mile from Red Rocks. How do I spell Wilde. 1985 I went to the Chief Hosa campground. I met the very awesome gals from Pine Ridge Rez with the graffiti Ford pick-up truck. So I wrote on the truck “see you at the League for Spiritual Discovery picnic, 8/8/88.
    First 45 disc in 1964; The Beatles , She Loves You
    First LP ; Beatles, Something New. 2nd LP , Meet the Beatles, 3rd LP, The Byrd’s , Turn Turn Turn
    4th LP Rolling Stones , Out Of Our Heads.
    Where’s my funking Funk & Wagnall damnit. I think I spelled it correctly this time.
    See you in Boulder. Will be wearing a Fillmore East ushers shirt. “Fall of the House of Usher”.
    It is true , hardly anybody wore tie die 45-50 years ago.

  • JimInMD
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    I hear you MLB.. and I sort of agree with you. But the other side of the coin is this is one of the truly great shows left in the cannon and most of the Allmans (and Merl) and previous managers, etc. have already passed.

    You have valid points and I always felt the same way, but like butter on a hot summer day I am beginning to soften. I think it's not if this will get released, it's when. I bet for every person that is hanging out there asking for different terms or a greater percentage there are three saying hell yes.. I will take what is "fair" but get this thing released so I can get something?

    Not if but when.. that's my position. It will happen, the red sea will be parted and it will get released. That's my opinion, as always I reserve the right to be belly-floppin' off the high dive wrong.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

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Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

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“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

Read more: https://relix.com/news/detail/in-memoriam-jeff-austin/#ixzz5rt4azryg

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What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

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The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

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Right on!

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I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

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Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

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11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

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Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

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Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

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....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

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May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

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9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

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Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

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Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

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I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

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Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

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And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

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First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

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Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

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In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

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I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

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I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

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....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

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NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
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Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

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As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

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Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

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I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

she refers to Jerry as "their vocalist and lead guitarist" (vocalist...singular...and listed ahead of guitar)

as I have said before: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

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