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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • JimInMD
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    There are some moments.. but it was a tough year. On the bright side, some of the recordings seem to sound better.. there was a gradual progression of sorts.. from 81 through 86 (I think).

    I was at those RFK shows, and besides the heat and dust.. (did I say it was really freaking hot).. that second show was tough to take, and then a few days later we got the coma news. Such a bleak end of the summer.. but the time 87 came around I decided I needed to see more shows. In hindsight, that turned out to be a good decision.

    I did listen to the China>Rider Playing Desolation Row from the Rubber Bowl and it sounded pretty good considering. What a difference a decent recording makes.. I have said this before, I think the Brent years would get more respect if they were better recorded. The 86 show from 30 Trips was surprisingly well played and well recorded too.. but admittedly I have a soft spot for a well played Comes a Time.

    Ok.. back to your regularly scheduled Drums and Space.. this is the lead into a swinging holiday weekend (for those in the states anyway).. wishing everyone a great rest of the week and a great weekend..

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    Well, lots of comments on these two subjects...so time to chime in. Seems almost absurd that we don't at least know what the BOX SET is going to be?!?! I mean it has been guessed & wished for on this board for 6 months!! Can they not at least announce it, or are they seriously going to wait until 8/1 at the MUATM showing to announce the BOX SET. The way the MUATM info has read with Jeff Norman mentioned as doing his sound magic on 6/17/91 show, and also mentioning only one other show recorded 48- multitrack makes me think we have a 1991 box coming. Not my go to choice as I was hoping for a Warfield 1980 BOX SET. I still have some hope that the RSD WARFIELD 10/9-10/80 acoustic release was a teaser for the BOX SET...we'll see. The problem with any BOX SET or any show release after Brent's passing is simple -VINCE was not good. Now shows in 1991 with Hornsby well into the mix would be enticing....we'll see, but bottom line - BOX SET is way overdue!!

    Dave's Picks #31 - this is typically the 1980s slot of the year for us 80s fans, I'm thinking this year will be no different. My guess is : a way overdue SPRING 1981 show, 7/13/84, or SUMMER 1985...either way July into August 1st brings the news

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    Box set guess??

    I'm betting on the complete Warfield shows, minus the two acoustic sets released earlier this year; it would mirror the timeline of the original releases, acoustic Reckoning in April, electric in late August. That would mean 45 - 50 discs, in the $300 - 400 range...might be a good move for Dead/Rhino, all the big boxes have sold out I believe.

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    I was at this show but don’t recall much? My recollection was it was sorta meh? But of course that could of been experentially influenced....After Alpine, and the mind Blowing River bend shows perhaps I was just to out out of it? I’m sure the environment played a part.....again after those other nice venues I remember pulling into the place and thinking it was weird, and not in a good way......I think I recall like burning tires or some kind of Smokey, nasty, industrial vibe?? And I believe it was some kind of smaller stadium?? Was able to get in front of the board, which was our usual prime choice spot, but even so?
    We had high expectations about Bob Sitting in with the boys but I recall they didn’t seem to mesh too well, and thus sort of a let down. Think that was part of why JG skipped out early? unfortunately, have never heard this show, probably didn’t pursue because of my hazy recollections? Always assumed it was so-so? The great next show in Buffalo probably overshadowed this one also.
    Honestly, 86 was one big veggie binge, perhaps the peak (yuck, yuck) of my psychedelic career, so unfortunately much of it is very hazy and it’s also a year I have only a couple of sets on tape out of the 11 shows I caught, so haven’t yet been able to reevaluate.
    So would love to hear anyone else’s recollections from this tour!

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    Still have mine: Sony WM D6C
    Used this one a lot for recording shows with sometimes excellent result.
    But times has changed since then. Tried Mini-Disc, DAT and others but
    were not satisfied. Now I'm using a Tascam DR07 with OKM-Mikes and
    got really good recordings - last one was Eddie Vedder in Berlin.
    Tomorrow we will got back to Berlin to see Uncle Neil. Hopefully a similar
    setlist to Odense (DK) some days ago.
    Gar-see-ya
    JJ

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    The Walkman turned 40

    My assumption is that many of us once had at least one of these; it certainly was a go-to for me all the way through the CD version up until my first iPod. What a revolution - making the best use of our beloved Maxell XL II's.
    And an interesting juxtaposition to KeithFan's post.
    How far we've come....

    https://www.surfacemag.com/articles/sony-walkman-40th-anniversary/

    Sixtus

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    Check your PM's. Hope that meets with your approval.

  • Dennis
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    do I hear dueling banjos?

    It's gonna be a real shame if you go down the river to come home to a "sold out" status :-)

    Just funnin', wouldn't wish a sold out on anyone!

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    For an extra $23k you can get the WOS upgrade, shipping not included.

    (couldn't resist)

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    @Thanks Jim 7/2/86

    It is an interesting Desolation Row..... no Jerry... I think we have spoke about the 7/19/89 Desolation Row before... so good!! Louisville 7/6/90 has a good one also!! Thanks again... bob t

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Ha. I bet Phil is pissed at the "Their Lead Vocalist" comment.

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Fries, Nachos, “I need a hook”, “Wow, good for them”.

No you didn’t get dosed, but you should consider it!

Edit: I got buses & Fire Hydrants , but still not Kesey's bus...

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I think that she did get dosed by the blue Jell-O shot.

She’ll be back next tour and will know all the songs.

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The Victm>Foolish transition seemed quite interesting at the time.

Was in the front row the next night (my friend got them from mail order - thanks GDTS). The first night we were 2nd row off the floor in the back with my GDTS tix.

I’m curious why the SBDs from those shows aren’t in circulation.

Doubtful.. more likely select lines from Friend of the Devil, Touch of Grey and Truckin' which she will know doubt try to impress us with by staggering back and forth while standing on her chair, flicking a lighter and singly quite loudly, out of key, and one step out of time to two thirds of the lyrics of Friend of the Devil and Casey Jones.

I don't know.. Perhaps this sounds cranky.. but why do people with such limited exposure and understanding feel the need to write about it on a large platform and describe exactly what it's all about. On the bright side.. at least she wasn't talking the entire show while overconsuming makers mark and beer after beer while yelling JJERRRRYYYYYYY during each and every solo.

Ok.. I will get back to kicking hippies off my lawn. As you were. Deep breath, exhale, all better now. Anyone is welcome to walk across my front lawn.

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I don't know, seems like a sterile version of the original parking lot. It may be that my last show was 95'. She was brave though, taking some pill in this era. I'd rather keep the memories of old then take a chance at disappointment. At least that's my opinion.

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What year was that first Corrina. Curious.

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....not entirely sure. Wanna say Vegas '92? That song was hit or miss for me. Better than Easy answers for sure. About tied with Eternity, which, when they did it right, was a pretty damn good time.

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That was the same kind of feeling I had with Corrina. Hit or miss.

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Could have been a decent song if it didn’t have any words.

Easy Answers = bathroom trip
Wave to the wind = bathroom trip
Vince = bathroom trip

If 2 or more of those came up in a show you were stuck listening to the one(s) that came after the bathroom trip.

Corinna could evolve into a good jam sometimes, but I was always disappointed to hear the opening chords.
First Corinna was 2-23-92.

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David Crosby - guitar, vocals
Jerry Garcia - lead guitar, vocals
Phil Lesh - bass
Mickey Hart - drums

This is a trip. Originally broadcast on KSAN, 12/15/70 from The Matrix, SF.

It really feels like a bootleg. Maybe some of you are familiar. It's loose and sloppy and I'm loving it.

Jerry is pretty "on."

From the five-disc box, "The 1970 Broadcasts."

Also a hoot, is the current Rolling Stone feature which has David Crosby answering readers questions about life, etc.

Crosby was a mess for decades, but as it goes, has become a wise old sage. God bless him.

\m/

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Oh yeah! What show are you jamming?

I was always a fan of their cover of the Stones' No Expectations.

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....that's the name.
Mrs. Vguy likes them. A definite plus

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Eternity always fine by me

Wave to the Wind is an abomination

Easy answers....love ya Bob, but...

Vince tunes ok

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The itch for DaP 31 approaches.....currently listening to 11 26 72 DARK STAR. San Antonio! Anyone feeling a hint for what year DaP 31 will bring us? 1968, 1972...in the strangest of places....

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Pink Floyd 71....insane and masterful

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I've always loved this tune. Ratdog has some very good renditions. Same with easy answers, I like the way Bob has been blending Easy answer with music never stopped.

Again, hard to believe we will looking at another seaside chat for Dave's 31 before we get the news on this year's box, but that appears to be the case.

Might be time for the first 79 release. Last 79 release was RT.3.1, which is outstanding!

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...a raise of hands please, who wants a 1969 box set?!
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I sure hope you're not talking about the Woodstock box.

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Would love to see a Fall ‘91 Box. Mix of the MSG and Boston Garden runs. Have not had a Bruce/Vince box set yet.

The can name it “In and out of the Garden we go!”

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or 9/4,5,6/91 wpould make a nice 91....
Or
Something from 69, 79, and 89, number 9, number 9, number 9........
Didn’t Bolo say something about different years combined?

Edit: 79 you say? ....how’s bout 1/10/79 and 1/20/79? ......probably no tapes??

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The box will not be '66, '67 or '68; agreed? All short shows, not many in the vault, questionable sales appeal. Edit:(Okay, I'd personally dive on any such releases, esp. '67 and '68. Killing my own arguments at the get-go.)

They just handed us two excellent '70 shows and have to hold the few remaining '70 shows for the 50th pairings with Workingman's and American Beauty and some for future DaPs. The box will not be '73-'74; they did that last year. That leaves '69, '71, '72 and '89 and '91.

To me the decision has to be tied to the music, the vault and sales.

The music: what will broadly appeal to the die-hards AND general public?

The vault: what year is well-supplied with useful tapes, so that a box will not deplete it?

The sales: shows with broad appeal, and affordable. Affordable is pretty much an issue of how many shows/discs. (Answer: 4-6 shows, 10-20 discs.) I think they'll lean slimmer than last year's 6 shows/19 discs to make it more affordable. On the other hand, these ARE limited edition boxes, so maybe "broad appeal" only applies within the tuned-in Dead market -- meaning, at many post '95 shows by later incarnations of the GD, I tried talking to people about the vault output and they had NO IDEA about Dave's Picks, etc. A huge # of people are into the concert scene and not the archival releases, bless their pointy little heads.

1969 passes all these tests and has the anniversary thing going for it. Yet they just put out Aoxomoxoa with a January '69 live disc. (Get Shown the Light in 2017 was synched to an anniversary, but that's the exception so far. )

1971 passes all these tests for me, yet I'm not sure -- forensic doc's efforts not withstanding -- how broadly appealing '71 is to die-hard fans. Same question might be applied to '69.

Okay, now we come to my favorite dead horse, which I have flogged mercilessly: 1972. Consistently hot shows. Tons of fall '72 in the vault ("tons" = ~25-30?). Broad appeal, good buzz factor (same year as Euro '72). Surefire sales: who's going to turn down a '72 box? Who??

Finally, I think '89 and '91 are a bit obscure performance-wise and may divide the market; older heads might pass, and those who caught that era are now in their 50s (mere kids, "heh heh heh," in a creepy voice).

Yet, I have to wonder how sales would go with The Ark three-show box, Capitol Theater '71 or even my favored fall '72 (c'mon, that'd sell like laced hotcakes).

To re-formulate my usual lackluster quip: I'm usually wrong. And I'll be fascinated to see what they've got in the works. Now that I think of it, 1979 is precisely 40 years ago and holds many tapes (I choose to believe, with no knowledge whatsoever) and hot shows. Who knows? As with PNW, perhaps they choose a venue like Red Rocks for '79; only, just one of three August '79 shows was at the Rocks, the other two at McNichols, the old Denver shed.

Okay, now I'm rambling badly and posting it. I say a week from Monday (July 8) we'll know. Dead & Co. will be back home, patching their bones. GarciaLive v. 11 shipping notices will be out and DaP 31 not yet announced.

I'm calling fall '72 box, with a '91 or '79 for DaP 31...

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Only two shows in the vault from the first two months of the year... One is the Feb 17, 1979 Rock for Life Show, and I believe the other is 2/7/79 Carbondale..... I wonder what happened to those tapes??? Have a good weekend everyone.... Bob t

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Richfield 9/4-6/91

I was there. all three shows smoked. Highly recomended. The 1st and 3rd nights were A+ top grade perfromances. One of the best Scarlet>Fires, a Birdsong for the ages, the secondset sequence of 9/6 is executed with perfection.

The Giants Stadium shows recorded onto 48 track analogue would be an obvious 2 show box to coincide with the Meet Up.

I have to have this when it comes out. My life would not be complete without it.

Arc would be cool too. Anything '89 2 thumbs up.

These verify pics are hard to see. Hate that. Hassle.

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I remember in the 80's shows wishing jerry would whip out his banjo, even just for a few minutes to put my trip back in line.

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I only hear crickets.

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Crankin' TIFTOO. To bad we couldn't have a keg party over the net. That would be the greatest app. In the world.

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Carlo13 you cracked me up a bit with your Jerry banjo comment! Kinda brings me back to "them daze".

BTW, did anyone grab the vinyl AND cd of the Warfield? I have the cd and I think I'm digging it the most out of the latest releases, but wondered if the vinyl differed in any way from the cd (which has a complete dearth of liner notes, accompanying booklet, or photos of the band, etc.)

P.S. I finally picked up the Shrine '67 vinyl (mainly for the cover art which I like on my wall.

P.S.S. Great Calls on something from Brent Fall 1979 some of those tapes are really well recorded!

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Kind of strange that the interviewer called John belushi a nutball. Seemed like bill thought the same.

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Streaming tonight and tomorrow. I’m behind and just started the 2nd set.....strong show so far!

My daughter came down earlier to say goodnight, looked up at the TV and said that’s Bob Ross......Yes!!! I’m half-way to making her a Deadhead!!!

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“Roll right through the night...”
SPACEBRO: “so glad you made it”...ditto Wilfred.....yasss, those Richfield shows go under the radar but where mighty tasty....believe that was the last or near last time I hung with my old amigo Lee Esdee...remember camping nearby sea world with previously mentioned, now 21 year old girl friend, me 28, and tent loving all night to the unbelievable sound of the whales.....whoooaaaa...

CARLO: yassss, use to space about why/what if JG threw down some badass BG....though not in the GD context but alas, perhaps lack of due to another side affect of the Jones etc? Fortunately we got at least the 90 Grisman et el stuff!
Virtual, cyber? Kegger, pssstttttt, that’s me opening the last growler of that tasty strawberry daze ale.....till next year!

JIMMD: “Ark You!”.......and of course I mean that in a good way 😀

LEDEAD: thanks for the awesome article! Had not seen that one! Nice long, candid one too. Love Billy K but sometimes.....not here though!
EDIT: interesting AB comments considering recent related posts here.....

DAVEROCK: will have to listen/analyze for the River/fingers correlation.....personally also thought L.R.R. and many of late era JG ballads were favs, if maybe a bit too many? Seemed to fit the vibe near the end days...perhaps just projecting my maturing? Moving on feelings/“growing up”.....ok, that’s too much thinking for this time and space???

C.J: and so it begins....! ; )

BobT: thanks! Glad to see ya...sorry, believe you told me/us this already....sorry for repeats Uncle! ; )

HF: eh, who you calling a kid ; )
and, ....ramble on baby!....I can’t speak for the rest of this ship of fools, but I dig your rambles!
I Like most of what you postulate, yasss, know I would truly dig any primal Dead, but your probably right about marketing/economics here....very interesting about your post GD observations vis a vis releases versus live. Perhaps a correlation with the younger gen/no stuff thing? Cool that kids are still pro live versuses memorex....perhaps we’re so rabid about releases due to the age/nostalgia bug and trying to relive etc, while the youngins are trying to actually live their own legacy, which is nice!
Think 69 might get more traction than you think? I know I’d dig that shite, ark, ark, ark! Woof! ......perhaps those that are neophytes would just bye and end up blown away?....
71? Know many here would love that spring stuff, not sure that would sell well with the casuals? (No offense to the Doc if yee lurkith?...miss ya boss!) Personally late 70 through pre Kieth 71 is not on my top wish lists, which is ironic cause skull fuck was sorta the final indoctrinating straw for moi. Sure I’d learn to love it like a red headed step child 😉
Your thoughts on fall 72 are not wrong....know I’d dig some big ass meaty Dark Stars etc ala previous releases....and agree 72 is pretty much money with this crowd. Also, been about time since 8/25 which was great in my minds eye, but perhaps not equal to some fall deep space 9 mojo? Imho.
Not disagreeing with your logic per 89-91, but perhaps the music is strong enough, and maybe overlooked enough, while having enough fans, especially with lack of inventory so far, that a small but solid 91 outing would trend well enough? Getting a 69 vibe myself, perhaps only in a dog sense kinda way, but hey, that shit has worked as much as logic and empiricism!

And in these days in GD history......spinning 6/27/85, which has a bit of slop/ occasional JG vocal mishaps, but imo is more than made up for with chutzpah, and shining diamond moments of psychedelic golden yummies, and a neat set list! Oye, the energy! Followed by 6/28/85 which is one of my favs; both @ and recording....again a bit of the first set “slop” but grows into a beast....remeber it was not a pleasant day. But the set up was awesome; like high school stadium, not too crowded, with PA in true stereo imaging set up, small delay towers on the ground behind the board, no cranes needed! But because of the elements they had plastic protection over everything; PA, stage gear etc until sometime in the 2nd...believe Estinmated into Terrapin? Eventually it cleared up with the stars out and they peeled off that plastic protection off, Healy started to crank it (which we were truanting him to do as we were hanging in front of soundboard per usual), and things started getting progressively better from there...started to warm up a bit too, which eventually led to moi overheating, but that’s another story that I shall only replay upon request.
Anywho, interesting first, followed by “continued singing in the rain” one of my fav Music Never Stopped”, my first Tom Thumbs, a solid Estimated, good Terrapin, great experientially, followed by one of my favorite spaces, complete with some serious 3D holographic, moving, Healy shit, woooooooooo, (recordings do not begin to capture this phenomena!), into a slamming Miracle, and perhaps my all time favorite Dew (very influenced by passing grandfather,) psychedelic, personal, cathartic variables, but to me still transcend all that even today....with a strong Stones/NFA, but unfortunately a bit of a let down with the Day Job encore....by then to my gang that one had kinda run its course. Dug it in like 83 etc, but eventually wore itself out...?
Followed all this off with first set of of 6/27/87 which is decent, tight 87ish, and now into the wee hours we’re bringing it all home with 6/25/88 mix of all of the first (“we don’t just let anyone sit in on accordion”) and the second first half mix of Victum, Blow Away, and Foolish, which were firsts for our gang...kinda of shitty conditions there though at the time..recall not feeling it so much then, but recording has remained a nice summer time fav.....
Tomorrow hopefully, finally, get to dig into PNW 6/24&26/73 shows....boo-yah!
So much Dead, so little time!....
And too all a goodnight!
Have a greatful weekend mi amigos!

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Thanks for tormenting me on the strawberry beer bro!! Now I am going out first thing tomorrow and find me some S. B. To quench my beer jones. I'll see if they have strawberry daze ale, if not I'll get any kind they have. I will let you know the results. It is funny that I have not bought a growler in ages. I think it's high time I start growling again. Peace!

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Had a wonderful evening with Bruce Hornsby and the Noisemakers in the mountains of North Carolina last Wednesday at the Salvage Station. Set list:
Great Divide
Stander on the Mountain
Fractals
I'll take you there
The way it is
Tango King
Pastures of Plenty
Up with People
Celestial Railroad
Green, Green rocky road
Every Little Kiss
Echolocation
Defenders of the Flag
Big Rock Candy Mountain>Candy Mountain Run
Little Sadie>White Wheeled Limo>Liberty Valance
Great jams especially the Candy Mountain Run, had the audience rocking and we all danced all night. 2.5 hr show with no breaks. Great Grateful Dead cover band on after the Bruce show who's opening song was Estimated Prophet, and they did an excellent job. Phunkle Sam is the name of the band and they are very well versed in Grateful Dead tunes.
If you get a chance, catch Bruce this time around, had a good time with some excellent tunes played along the river with fireflies dancing around us most of the evening, awesome. Check out Bruce's new lp also, it's worth a listen.
Box set, I'll take some 91 Bruce and Vince this time around, it's time to break these shows out, they were great.
Last 6:
Jules and the Polar Bears, Phonetics
Steppenwolf, Live
Cheech and Chong, Big Bambu
Mahogany Rush, Child of the Novelity
Bruce Hornsby, Absolute Zero
Stomu Yamashta, Go (with Steve Winwood and Michael Shrieve)

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