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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • alvarhanso
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    Other Ones not duds

    Jim, those 2 Other Ones aren't duds, and 8/25 I hate to say my problem is being really distracted by the extra bass. The Other One is the absolute best part of that show, and it's great to have the whole thing as the one on Archive is cut at 16 min, so it misses 12 min of fiery jamming. And I was including the 1/22 one in the part of the show I really dug, but that I get about 70 min of highlights out of what was supposedly a legendary show was more my point, coupled with getting what we ask for isn't always best. Like 11/6/77. Maybe if it hadn't been so widely requested, we could have gotten a more obscure choice that was a better overall show. Though conversely, DaP 29 2/26/77 is every bit of its reputation, and a bona fide great Pick made possible by the returned Bettys. Of course, it's all pretty subjective. :)

  • Vguy72
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    Hiding behind a wall of illusion....

    .... reminds of a certain villain named Mysterio in a certain new Spider-Man movie. psst....it was pretty damn good.

  • stoltzfus
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    I am about...

    1.2 discs into 10/17/72

    loves me some GD72

  • stoltzfus
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    JiminMD, we were talking about...

    the space between us all
    and the people
    who hide themselves
    behind a wall
    of illusion...

  • stoltzfus
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    got it up and running

    yessir, that dosed Viagra tab did wonders

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    First.. "Scarlet definitely a Bobbie dazzler!" Well, that cracked me up. Lots of good stuff in lots of recent posts here.. but I do find myself liking several of the duds mentioned.. The Other One from 1/22/78 and 8/25/72 I thought were both excellent, but I did like the comments and viewpoints and there were some lessor shows I guess.

    Bullfrogs.. they built this river takeout, hiking trail parking lot behind my house a few years ago.. and it's in a flood plain.. so they somehow thought they had to engineer the hell out of it and tried to build a slow drain system such to not add to the runoff during a flash flood inducing rain.. so they built these silly trenches near the edge of the lot complete with cattails, water that won't drain, bullfrogs and essentially a mosquito factory where once there were none. If it worked.. that'd be great but it honestly serves no purpose, when it rains hard it floods there too. So I go to bed with bullfrog mating calls each night and for no reason.. fun for about three minutes. ..and just to squelch any rumors, these bullfrogs do not make you trip when you lick the slime from behind their ears. More on that later....

    I especially like the non-decade, keyboardist neutral banter. Sure, we all have our favorites.. but lightning did strike in the later years, perhaps not every night.. but.... A very kind and wise soul here that no longer seems to visit these threads but saw shows throughout their history once sent me a PM stating he never understood the decade bashing, that was never how it was. When the band was on, they were on.. and there were plenty of great shows after Pigpen and Keith left the band. He went on to add all this started after the band had packed and gone. I guess tapes become their own source of history, but being there was different. After all, there were stinkers in the early years too.. you just have to poke around and there were some smokers where you would never expect to find them. Anyway.. if Betty recorded the 1980's she certainly would have turned water into wine along the way.

    What were we talking about again? 1974 Eyes of the World? Exactly.. Listened to the Eyes from the Swing today.. amazing and clearly the best. Anyway, it was simply wonderful and carried me through the hardest and scariest part of my river day.. no flips, no upside adventures, so it clearly must be the best. Great show. ok.. back to your previously scheduled bouts with chemically (or toad licking) induced dementia. :D What were we talking about again?

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    Holee Shite!!....

    ....stoltzfus finally got his avatar up and running. Be still my beating heart.

  • Oroborous
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    Like I told ya, what I said...

    That is a picture of me doing what I do best...Not my Dog! Ahem....
    But thanks for the kind words. And though we are blessed with some awesome regulars, it’s the rest of all y’all that keep coming back for more and throwing those spices into the proverbial stew that keeps it all fresh and alive! So thank you brother Dreading et el!

    Dead Days indeed....
    Wednesday: @7/3/88 finally got to this one. Can still see that dipstick flying towards the stage during Birdsong....
    Thursday: cobbeled together enough gear to watch @7/4/89 30th anniversary....such a night!
    Friday: @7/5/19 Folsom lake, er a, I mean stadium! Cold Rain and Snow Indeed!
    Saturday: @7/6/19 Folsom, ahhh more like it! Good show, could nit pick that the last-show of tour set list might of had some more meat & potatoes, but I won’t...
    Sunday: watched 7/7/89: yaaasss, Kiethfan, nice cherry popper, Scarlet definetly a Bobbie dazzler! Though like the @3/22/90 too....so many, how to choose?
    Monday; finally ripped the 50th albums etc and Warfield 10/9&10/80. Listened to 7/3/66, the Aoxomoxoa bonus stuff, the Warfield sets, 7/8/81 #1 and 7/781 #2.....ok, I’m all deaded out...phew, pant, pant.....
    Hopefully RT 3.3 will be in the box mananna....might need a rest first!

    Cheese and Rice...so woke up this morning in my own bed...no idea how I got there? With flashes of random visions of running, no more like gliding through the mountain forest with these huge but graceful beasts, all of us beyond high, like communicating on a whole other level?.....and wild ritualistic ceremonially dancing and drum like instruments, but totally made from giant like natural red woods, not man made, all the most beatific vibes......so wake up quite confused to say the least.....eventually everything seems to be normal.....except that damn smell??? Ewwww? And I swear I heard bats as I became cognizant?? Or was it Bullfrogs?
    Did you ever wake up with Bullfrogs on your mind?

    Sigh, back to the grind tomorrow....always tough going back especially after a 5 day Dead fest!

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    Dave's 11 11/17/72 was a third Pick, so it may hold a lot of times, but not always. The first 2 are definitely to sell the subscriptions, but there can be duds in there, too. DaP 25 11/6/77 and DaP 22 12/6-7/71 are a couple of examples. I find the ones I like least are the last Pick of the year. DaP 4 9/24/76, DaP 12 11/4/77, DaP 20 12/9/81, DaP 24 8/25/72 and DaP 28 6/18/76 range from ones I almost never listen back to (12, 24, 28) to ones I won't listen back to after giving them multiple chances already (4, 20).

    The ironic thing in hendrixfreak's take (which is perfectly reasonable) is that DaP 23 1/22/78 was so heavily requested, and a legendary show. Legendary mainly for a few seconds of a Close Encounters tease (kinda like the other worst Pick, IMO, DaP 7, which I grant was a third Pick, which was infamous for a few seconds of Staying Alive!?!), but the show barely gets any play from me. And when I do, I choose Minglewood, Jack Straw, Peggy O, Tennessee Jed, Row Jimmy, Music Never Stopped then the second half of set 2, or disc 3, up to Around & Around. I probably made a highlights disc of almost all of that at the time. I'm not huge on 12 11/4/77 and 25 11/6/77, as they, too, have great moments, but don't carry my attention the whole way through, where some Picks I don't want to miss anything. I was surprised on that relisten to all of DaP 9 5/14/74 how exceptionally well they played just about everything up to that Dark Star that I had steadfastly avoided so long. Even the Playing in the Band, which they essentially butcher the re-entry to, they take the ending and ramp the energy up to 11 to make up for the botched part. But like 11/6/77, which people had clamored for since DiP 35, it has a great opening 1-2 punch in Mississippi Half Step-> Jack Straw, but then what? Music Never Stopped is typical '77-'78 excellent version, Samson is good with a fun intro, then the Truckin'. And I'm a lover of Wharf Rats, and that one doesn't really get me going, either.

    What does all this gibberish mean? Perhaps not much, other than sometimes the shows that a seeming consensus of fans have wanted released aren't quite as good as the lesser known shows that Dave is able to surprise us with. 11/17/71 and 11/17/72 are prime examples, not just because they're among my personal favorites, but because they are just fantastic shows. Some of the very best shows released have been part of box sets, or Dick and Dave already put them out in the DiP Series, and a couple of gems in Road Trips (6/9/76, 5/15/70, 11/21/73, 11/15/71 spring to mind). You hope everything in the DaP Series will be awesome, but hey not every Dead concert that you paid money and traveled to see was Cornell or even MSG 9/16/87 (45 min 1st set still baffles me, for a show with such a reputation). Count me in on wanting 7/13/84 to be a DaP, but I don't think it's an oustanding overall show, I really like the Scarlet> Touch> Fire> Man Smart and Dark Star (plinky keys and all). I think it just is what it is at this point with the Picks, with them having to put out 4 per year and entice into getting a big box every year, too. I'm okay with that deal, and will let it go down next year, too. Even the shows I don't particularly like are nice to hear at least once or twice. Except DaP 20 12/9/81. I can't find anything positive to say about that one other than the Albert Hoffman bicycle cover. (And that isn't anti-80s bias, it's anti-bad show bias.) :)

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    I think any 2 wheeled transportation that has a combustion fired engine is considered a motorcycle, but die hard bikers will always say no because they do not want to be in the same class with the moped or scooter.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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As Perithecat says, the cost of large boxes is prohibitive if you don't live in the States, severely limiting access. A UK/Europe distribution centre would make all Dead merchandise much more accessible.

11/7/71 has been available for a few years on Amazon in the UK, both individually, and as part of the infamous 7 show "yellow box" of 1971 shows. These are all FM shows and incredibly good value for money. Its presence caused some controversy on here when it was first mentioned a year or so ago. But it has to be said, it is very attractive on all levels-and again, if you live in the UK/Europe, a fraction of the price of the Rhino boxes only available on here.

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The copy I have is DAMN good, Primo, not sure :-). Another easy pick for good sound. I like the song lineup. I guess I would have guess a later year than 71 for the next Dave. But Dave, I'll take what you give, sell, allow to buy. I'm looking now and yes there is a open slot on the shelf for 31, so send it already.

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Bolo did say the contest was not related to the next Dave or box release...I'm still counting on the Complete Warfield, and a june 76 show for Dave 31.
Now, if only Bolo would at least tell us when the announcement will come out...

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I read it a couple of times and still wasn't sure. In the end, it is what it is and I will take. But my copy of that date is very nice.

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and miss the Bolo clue, good one Bolo, but how about a real clue to the box set or DP 31? Congrats RichardTorres, great guess and a tip of the hat to you, Eureka, you got it. As far as the box, would love an 80 box, or a 91 box, but no 76 box please. Vince did not suck, especially with Bruce along for the ride, that's a bold statement to make and a personal opinion that not all of us share. Those were some great shows with the 7 man band in 91>92.
Those 5-26>27-93 shows were good ones, I really like the March shows from that year too, especially the NC shows, good times. I did not see the band in 86 or 87, loved the October 85 show I went to and the October 88 shows also, Jerry was wasted in 85 but he could still deliver the goods and in 88, it was like a rebirth. Someone said lets redo 95 with Mayer redoing Jerry's leads, Sacrilege I say, even on his death bed, Jerry was miles above anything Mayer can do. The 95 show I saw was a good one and the only stadium show that spring tour. More good times indeed.
Nappyrags, what a great find, send me some please :) Daverock, I also dig Tangerine Dream, thanks for the heads up ie. Phaedra, will check that out. That Pink Floyd jam for the moon landing is pretty awesome, 50 years ago we were walking on the moon....giant steps are what you take, walking on the moon....
I doubt if Phil will be anywhere near anywhere where D&C are playing, he's really not welcome and Billy and Mickey won't play with him so I don't think that's an option, besides, it's in writing that he can't play with the remaining 4 members together ever again due to that cash grab called fare thee well. Too bad, would love to see it but it ain't gonna happen, ever, at least not without a whole bunch of lawyers getting involved, and a burying of the hatchet between Billy and Mickey and Phil.

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Senor DaveStrang, I called out the Texas dates a couple months ago when raving that the new box would be Fall '72.

Lettuce prey u r write.

He wrote "Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…"

without pages of dirt, what happened between the three?

Pure opinion, but, I would think Phil could play with them "legally" as long as they don't use the name "Grateful Dead".

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I do not believe that there is a legally binding document that states that the Core 4 cannot play together for money.
The FTW announcement said that those would be the only 3 shows.
Then they added Santa Clara.
The statement in the announcement that it was the last time they would play together is not a legally binding contract.

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the FTW tagline said that this particular lineup would never be seen again, and I took that to include Trey et al. However, I think that they will do what makes sense to them, and I think that's fine, as they seem pretty happy these days.
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Slept in, just had breakfast (it’s noon here), now having coffee and watching 7-4-89.

My reading of Bolo’s contest was that it was a “what am I thinking of” contest, not a reveal of upcoming releases.

I’ll go!

A ‘cash grab’ doesn’t bother me. I’ll pay the cash if the music is worth it.
That’s why I’ll pay the cash for Roger Waters, but not The Rolling Stones.

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solo
YOLO
pollo
Tolo
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Psychedelic man of mystery

Dennis, great Hideaway link, thank you very much. HF / DaveS.. I'd take a big bite of a Texas 72 box.

Had a really good time at a free bluegrass show they had at the ski mountain up he hill from where I live (Hill Billy Gypsies). At the end they had to restring either the fiddle or mandolin, and the guitar player took some time to tell a little story starting with this next one is a Jerry Garcia song and began to introduce his songwriting style and took some time to credit Stephen Foster as being an influence on both Hunter and Garcia. Not sure how true that is and had never heard that before.. but he went on to say their songs and the style the wrote them in have a timeless aspect to them and lend themselves well to string arrangements.. and so started a smoking, wild and wooly Brown Eyed Woman ala bluegrass (acidgrass).

Had a great time, made some new friends, the weather was spectacular, the mountains beautiful brought our own beer and wine so it was an almost free event. I do agree.. and have said this here before, the song writing and the songs they have written, don't always get the credit they deserve. I do think there is a timeless aspect to them and Brown Eyed Woman is one of my favorites.. Gone are the days...

Well Happy Fourth of July all.. be good, be safe, be kind, play dead.

Delilah Jones went to meet her God,
And the old man never was the same again.

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Vguy, did you feel that quake? And if so, how did it compare to being in just the right spot, in just the right venue, with a song that had just the right Phil subsonic resonant frequency, that you would feel more than hear, so that the hole place seem to be floating.....”the carpet too is moving under you..”
hopefully all y’all didn’t experience any mishaps?

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I did not realize how good these guy were. Jerry said these guys were his mentor or some other word he said in an interview . It is very hard not to be in a good mood listening to these guys. The banjo style is out of this world.

In all honesty I echoed the opinion of another poster when I asked them. I revisited the shows and thought they would indeed make a great 4 show Box. You posted the same a short while later. A 4 show (Tx.) Box would keep it affordable for most and who doesn't like 1972? It seemed like the band could do no wrong.

The announcement? Mon./Tues.? The Dead & Co. tour ends on Saturday if I'm correct and I think Rhino wants to catch folks while they still have 'Dead Fever' not to mention we regulars, who've been salivating for months. OK I exaggerate…umm…not really (lol).

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And how. I'm funny like how? Like I'm a clown, I'm here to amuse you. How the f*** am I funny, tell me.

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....oof! Spinning Dave's 18, because '76 is unanimously accepted in the Vguy home.

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Jerry in shorts.... start of summer 90 tour.... 100+ degrees and an opening Cold Rain & Snow!!!! Highlight for me 27 minute Scarlet Fire going into drums!!! 29 years ago..... where does the time go. bob t

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The quicksilver messenger service, Big brother and the holding company and the dead on the same bill are the days of old. I wish I had a time machine. They don't even put up those old billboards for upcoming events anymore. Makes you want to cry.

Some those psychedelic posters from the 1960s advertising rocks concerts were works of art. Actually, it would be quite cool if they could use some of them on future Dead releases. If this isn't possible, for copyright reason or whatever, maybe the ideas and images could be referenced in newer works.

I'm listening to 5/21/74 from last years box as I type-the first set- which I thought I would add as it features some damn fine piano playing.

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Just cracked open an Upslope Tangerine & Hops Spiked Snowmelt. One will do, for breakfast, to try and get this freight train out of my head. First hangover headache I've had in years. Our 4th party was epic. Now the wife and I are left to clean up this disaster (at least no one died in this wreck). Thanks to everyone who left wine and beer in my fridge and snacks all over the place. Ahem.

Probably going to pick up Al and drive into Boulder around 3 for drinks and food at Shakedown Street. Can't wait to see the fellas the next two nights. Folsom Field at night in the summertime is magical.

Cheers, to everyone else who is off work today!

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Been a while, but hope everyone is having a great summer. I'm eagerly anticipating both the next Dave's Picks as well as the box set news. No matter what it is, I can't imagine I'll be too disappointed given the riches we're all privy to these days.

On a separate note, I saw Phish at Camden for 3 nights last weekend - I know there are mixed feelings about them here, but they are playing great and it was good to be out on the lawn with some family and old friends who convinced me to go. A night (or in this case 3) with live music is better than most alternatives...

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It has clearly been stated several times that the box announcement will be 8/1 @ MUATM and not before. I predict ‘79. I saw both Keith & Brent that year

DAP31 should be in the next week or so. Maybe a Bruce & Vince show? That would be a nice change

I bought the ‘71 “Yellow Box” and love it

Saw The Who in May with a full orchestra and it was great. Roger is fully healed. Queen & the Stones on back-to- back nights in Aug. only about 5 hr. drive between shows. I am old but it is doable!

Rock on

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Wooooohhhooooooo!
Fug this box noise (for now...) going to see live #$*($$(& Dead!
Only 2-3 hours of horrible holiday mountain traffic, a total dipshit fest gettin in and then.......aaaahhhhhhh
“This must be heaven....”
we’ll hopefully be in our spot last row center, you’ll know me if you see me!
T minus 9 hours and 30 minutes till liftoff!
Wwooooooooohhhhhhhooooooo!
Have fun but be safe sports fans!

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As long as a digital download is offered, I don't think any box set will sell out in less then a year or so. Look at the July '78 box. That was an AWESOME offering, 3 years ago, and there are still some on the shelf at Dead.net.

Rock on

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I have never been to a MUATM and I doubt they will be announcing the 2019 Box to such a small exclusive group that go to these meet-ups.

"we will be revealing an exclusive look at the Dead's soon-to-be announced 2019 boxed set"

It's going to be a look at not an pre-order announcement.

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I would imagine that they will first reveal the box at MUATM and will follow up with an announcement here after MUATM. I imagine they are using the announcement as an additional motivator for folks to attend MUATM. Everyone will get the announcement, but the folks at MUATM will get it first.

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although I already had this one as a bootleg SDB I was not disappointed. for the copies that circulated was riddled with cuts. the one that most stood out being the Cosmic Charlie that was the most disappointing. my show notes from a 6-23-18 listening: Too bad about the cuts in this tape. Maybe the vault has a complete copy. Still has replay value & good sound quality. - Not saying I called it or anything, just that it was optimism that actually paid off for once.

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I know we have talked about this before but the July 78 box set is the most under rated box release based upon the first 3 shows that were not circulated at all in sound board quality. The last two shows were out there in killer boards, but those first 3 are just such great upgrades... Think of it this way, what if the January and February boards from 1979 were all of a sudden released. We have had nothing but audience tapes for 40 years. No disrespect to the other boxes released... Before July 78 box was released i hadn't listened to 7/1, 7/3, 7/5 audiences since my tape trading days back in late 80's.... Now I am talking about one on it's anniversary date!!! Buy and listen before they are gone..... good weekend everyone.... bob t

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‘Soon-to-be announced’...

DL just waiting for windy day

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Hey Now Dead People! Happy Friday everyone and hope you had a great 4th. I’m in recovery mode but trying to get revved up for the first Boulder show tonight. Couldn’t make it out there, so will be streaming live...Carpet is fired up and ready to go!

Oroborous-watch out for The Sasquatch creatures....if they happen to abduct you it takes weeks to recover!

Not a huge fan of '78 because it's a lot more manic (or coke-fueled), and Bob's learning of the slide onstage, but these shows are great for the most part. My favorite of the bunch is still 7/1. I will take that over either Red Rocks show. I don't know if they felt like they had to be more precise in front of a country audience that expects precision playing, or if they just wanted to blow their minds, whatever it was, it clicked. The Omaha show was my least favorite of the bunch, but it's still a damn good show. Why a box with 3 completely uncirculated Bettys with terrific artwork hasn't sold out after 3 years is mystifying. Makes it even crazier that Get Shown the Light sold out faster than any other box. Sure those shows were well known, but also extremely well circulated. I imagine that leads to some trepidation on this year's box. Last year's PacNW '73-74 looked to be a shoe in to sell out, too, but is still there with an amazing box and art, and 6 fantastic shows. I don't want to see them cut down on the number of box sets available and possibly miss out on a quick sell out, which 7200 copies of Texas '72 could easily do, hypothetically speaking, of course. It's got to be hell on Rhino's accountants to figure this out, 30 Trips sells out at 700 bucks a pop within several months, GSTL sells out 15,000 copies in 2 days, and who knows how many music only editions and downloads, and the other boxes are still available. Maybe they shouldn't do the download editions...

The physical packaging is revealed, similar to the PNW Box last year.

https://youtu.be/ePU2Ygv1ILU

I placed my PNW order on 6-12-18, well before MUATM.

Although I would like a June 76 Box, I’m expecting an announcement on 7-17 that the Box will be Alpine 7-17,18,19-89 complete audio/video. Being that it’s the 30th anniversary.
And if that actually happens, I’ll be quite happy.

Have fun in Boulder folks.

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Folks in Boulder are getting real wet! Show Is being delayed and they told people to seek shelter.

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