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    Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

    Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

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    Haven't listen to it end to end,,,, maybe tomorrow at work. But I did listen to Scarlet -> Fire! This may take the place of the great one (the Ontario show from So Many Roads). This drives home the point Jim always make, if these shows were recorded with the care of early shows,,,, wow. We be talking about the 80's a lot more! There was a power that they obtained in the Brent era. I don't know if it was the "newer" sound system or Brent. But there is a GREAT need for the organ in their music and Brent provided that in spades. Plinky keys? Fuck you. (even the plinky keys I've heard rise up into the rafters during shows) I found the vocals to be a bit odd on this recording. Like they were recording too loud, but once the jams get there the recording is great. I have great separation and definition. My computer speakers are giving me about a 3-4 foot sound stage and maybe a foot deep. I think that once the jam starts and the volume levels go up the 'room' recording becomes the same as a air recording. I always thought their sound wasn't part of the environment, but defined the environment. When the sound left the stage and climbed up and out of the building. I'm just probably nuts, but this show is just what I wanted. Need to get a copy down to the car and give a another listen. But during Scarlet - Fire transition the tears were flowing down my cheeks from the shear beauty.

    Good pick Dave.

    Now about that box set......

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    Been a long hiatus in posting. #5377 hit the mailbox yesterday here in Vermont. Just breaking into disc one this morning. First round impression: very nice, freshness, great energy and audio quality very good, factoring in cassette master. Love the artwork. Will delve into disc 2 on the ride up to Burl for the JRAD show on the waterfront tonight. Joe is going to miss the show, announcement below from last night. Scattered T-storms should clear by late afternoon and the Delta Aquariids will peak around midnight. Happy meteor watching!

    BREAKING NEWS: We want to send a big congrats out to Joe and his family, who just welcomed their second daughter into the world — three weeks earlier than expected! Unfortunately, this means he won't be able to make it to the show tomorrow. The inimitable Johnny Kimmock and Evan Roque are stepping up to the plate to fill in. The 200th JRAD show is shaping up to be a special one. We look forward to seeing you tomorrow

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    They were right up there with the GD, Airplane, Janis, Quicksilver in the early days. Just didn't catch on like the others, although they still play gigs from time to time. I recall Mickey saying they were the most musically talented of the groups that came out of 60's San Francisco. They released a really good live album under the Grateful Dead Records label in 1998. Good band, very underrated.

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    I don't normally do the anniversary listening specifically per se. However, 7/28/82 is one I would give special mention to on it's anniversary. In my mind, it is one of the top shows of the '80's.

    Here is a link to the relisten copy with the pre-show 'banter':

    https://archive.org/details/gd1982-07-28.fob.senn421.wise.miller.102571…

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    I'm also a fan of DaP 18. The sound is different, no doubt. I wonder what accounted for that. I kind of like it in a weird way. Jerry sounds real clean and possibly has less distortion effect on his guitar. I haven't listened in a few months, but I think it primarily showcases Jerry in the left channel and Keith in the right. You've inspired me to put it on. I just remember enjoying the uniqueness of the mix, despite it having somewhat less fidelity.

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    Like others in Europe, I’ve been asked to pay £84 to receive my double subscription. I’ve refused to do this as (I) I’ve already paid for shipping and (II) there is no way the customs charges on $60 worth of discs would be anywhere near £80. My guess is that USPS is making at least £50 per shipment on top of what Rhino are paying them, possibly the full whack of what they’re charging.

    I’ve emailed Dr Rhino via the website (is that the right way to go? and asked them to confirm when I’ll be able to collect my package without incurring charges. I have up until 5th of August after when I guess they returned to sender. What happens then, reshipment? Refund? I have no idea. For those of you faced with paying £73 for a single disc, you’re better off buying on eBay.

    Re DiP 33 and DaP 18; for me DiP 33 is up there with the very best. I probably need to revisit it but was slightly disappointed with the 7/17 show at the time, although this goes against what some others have said. The 16/7 material, particularly the bonus disc, sounded better to these ears. If you do go for DaP 18, make sure you get the bonus disc.

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    I just walked in. Well, not just, I did pour a tall Grey Goose, heel it on out to the mailbox, etc. But I have arrived stale, not fresh from a four hour flight from Logan to Denver. Spent the week in Southern Maine getting tanned and drunk. The best time, always, with family baseball and football games thrown in both on the beach as well as the in-laws palatial lawn.

    Dave's 31 unwrapped but not burned nor played yet, #5093. A low enough random number to satisfy. Nugs also nestled in there amongst the fish wrap, Dead & Co. 7/5 and 7/6. Shows I attended. Also knocking on the door freshly arrived Winterland NYE 1972 Dead, New Riders, something called Sons of Champlin.

    All this new music, where to start? Dead & Co. 7/6, natch. Let's work backwards, Sherman.

    \m/

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    Love them both. Dick's 33 with the two shows, the day on the green. Great performances and the sound quality is really good. Love Dave's 18 and Charlie is right the sequence on Disc 2 is wild. I still remember the first time I heard it thinking, I have never heard anything like this before. The Comes a Time and Eyes are awesome!. From a sound quality perspective it is not as good as the other 76 releases, but still great. I think about how good the sound quality is on Dave's 28 and I just think Norman continues to get better at this.

    No 31 in sight for me until Wednesday 😭
    Not sure why. Would love to hear more about how this one turned out.

  • OKCDeadHead
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    Still waiting on DaP 31 in OKC. Looking like Monday will be the day. In the meantime, I get to check out Alice Cooper at the Zoo Amphitheatre tomorrow night. Should be interesting and it’s always fun at the Zoo! Incidentally some pretty decent Dead shows were held there in the 80’s.

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    Just digging in, but I wanted to flag one thing. This is the nicest art work I’ve seen on one of these by a good margin. I like how the interior of the sleeve matches the color scheme of the cover. I know you do that normally but this works better for me than usual. And I particularly like the inclusion of the photo of the tapes. Would appreciate that on all future picks.

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Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

....just talking out my ass but....

10/74; you’d think they’d wait for the 50th? Remarket etc...
Fall 72: do they have multis from this tour? Think winds is right about multi/plangent....I think we all agree that would be a Bobbie Dazzler though!
Alpine: seems too small. If he’s that busy makes it sound big!
Perhaps fall 89, but don’t think they’d go with a big one from that tour yet? Personally would love this!
Fall 80 is a possibility IF, they actually have the multis? Personally hope not...great stuff but kinda limited/repetitive imho for a biggin.....meaning not sure they’d sell enough for the big production costs?
Summer 91; my dog sense keeps coming back to this because they have multis, it’s something different i.e “variety” , they haven’t done much post Brentski, and it’s the muatm show, which is why I’m thinking that’s partially why their waiting to announce; to coincide with the muatm....might be anticlimactic otherwise.....don’t know 91 well enough to know if there are enough quality shows for a big box? Do know there are some great shows, just don’t know if there are enough?
73/74; too soon after PNW....and are there multis from this period?
69; think many would dig 69, but perhaps not enough to chance a big box? which brings us to...
Spring 71; personally my least interest out of the above, but there are multis, there’s enough shows, and there are a whole lot of folks been yammering for this one for ages!

So I’m going with 71 or 91.

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not according to the misses lol...
I agree about size does not equal greatness, i.e. Sunshine Daydream, but I’m stuck on his comments about Norman’s work load/hours etc...said they’ve been on this one for a while and as others said only other times he’s had to pass on releases was when he was trenched in on a big un! Throw in the plangent equals multi and I’m guessing a big one?
But hey, my opinion and a couple bucks might get ya a gas station coffee! ; )

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This is a nice pick. Not only is it from the Brent era, it features many of the songs from their upcoming album Go to Heaven as well.

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The rumor mill states this year's box set will be Giants Stadium shows from late 80s/early 90s.

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I'm with Phil. Fall 72. Would also jive with bolo's hanoi jane clue.

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Recently Moved:

How do I update address (for subscription)? Customer Service number on site doesn't seem to get me anywhere, not serviceable or something.

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Set List looks like fun.

But with Lazy Lightning/ Supplication AND Lost Sailor/ St. of Circumstance, let the kvetching begin.

As to any box: Exactly, any box is fine with me. Weekend with Bruce or Branford, the Greek, Frost, or Ventura.
The possibilities are, well, not endless. But virtually endless for my lifetime.

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Dave said Jeff was working six days a week.

This is gonna be a Big 'Uns or it has video and had to have surround mix which would take longer.

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Ls>soc? That can be fun.
I remember a special day listening to that from 3/10/81...oh yeah...

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Nice Pic, late 79 was a great year w/ brent and the Band rockin in the fall tours (like cap cod 79)
But still don't get the lack of 83-85 shows. Especially the lack of 1984! For example the Philly 1984 3 night spring run 4/19/84 4/20/84 4/21/84 all are amazing and tight well played!!! Don't believe me listen to estimated Prophet on 4/19/84. Dave listen to it! you'll be surprised Lol.

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Looks like my ticket went through for address change, found a working customer service #. I need #31 to land herself safely home, love that show!

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I can't get back to the DP31 page, just the separate comments page. Wanted to check out that cover again - boy is that T-Shirt worthy!!!

Hope you feel better VGuy! Just got GL11 today, hopefully my vinyl FW 2/28 arrives at the record store manana!

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I was there - still have the ticket with the outrageous price of $9.50!

The last 2 shows I saw before this one were with Keith and Donna and neither show was very good in my book. So when they came out with Brent it was time to give the new guy a chance. The energy level was through the roof and this still ranks among my favorite shows (that I attended) ever. Seemed as if everybody was ON that night.

The Uptown was a great venue and last time I saw them before they moved to larger arenas - the good old days!

Highly recommended - and thanks, Dave!

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Dave also said they spent quite a bit of time on the DaP that was Dec '81 Boulder. And though I attended that show and did my (or more than my) share of tootskie and enjoyed it immensely -- I mean, IMMENSELY!!! -- I thought the tape did not support my, um, perceptions at the show.

So again, not sure that Jeffrey being real busy equates to a huge box. Still, when all is said, I'll be at MUATM on time, with shooters in my socks and PAX packed, ready for the news.

Look, what the hell could they be thinking? I couldn't afford 30 Trips, so I kicked in for my buddy's copy and he keeps it, but shared with me. I only wanted the first 10 years anyway.

How about: "Dave Lemieux's Fifteen and a Half Trips around the Moon?" (I mean it's the landing anniversary this weekend. )

Or: Bolo's Big Box of Indecipherable "Clues"? Also available on vinyl (tableclothes)...

Or: a 45-disc set dubbed "HendrixFreak's Worst Nightmare" (all from 1985-86).

Back to wishing and washing: give me spring '71 or fall '72 pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

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What a pick. New era and cool cover art. So much for the 3rd Dap being "Meh". Love it!!!

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....I try not to bring up this band from Vermont very often here, but I would be amiss if I didn't at least share it. 38 minutes of dips, about faces, peaks and valleys. At least six different themes. Simply incredible. Faces were melted. Drool happened. Music is universal. What a jam.
https://youtu.be/zxytYVzQWzk

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Did all 20,00 copies sell today? The site wouldn't accept my mailing address earlier today and when I came back to the computer to try again it was sold out. very disappointing. And if that's it, will it be available digitally?

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No digit. On any Daps. P.S. Early bird coming up before last Dap of year. I think.

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I'm a little nervous about the sound quality here. The listening party ain't too hot. As much as I want some quality 79-80, I'd I'd rather have something that sounds good when I turn it up.

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Come on man this is ridiculous. I just got my email notice today about the release of this show and it's f**k*n sold out already!! Dave finally releases a worthy show from his lackluster selections of late. In case you were wondering, there are so many more [especially old heads] who want an opportunity to have this release.
So, please reconsider releasing additional copies!! Gratefully requesting

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Was overseas and didn't get the subscription. Damn it. I'd suck a room full of _____ for a copy of this.

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They have to go with what they have. If they went with only pristine sound or betty's then Daps would end not to far into the future. IMHO.

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Criterion at barnes and noble 50% off on criterion. Just to let you know.

Why do we have to say it every time?

Also, it was announced last week in the GD Bulletin that it would go on sale today at 10 am PST.

You know that annoying yellow box that keeps popping up? “Get on the list”

That box knows what it’s talking about.
The ‘list’ is how we knew last week that DaP31 was being announced at 10 am PST 2019-07-16.

But if you subscribed it wouldn’t matter.

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Thanks for the reply Carlo. I'm very disappointed.

The site wouldn't accept my shipping address (and I've ordered many things from dead.net). I had this on my calendar and I tried when there were still copies available this morning, with credit card and paypal, with "same as billing" and with "shipping entered manually". Then with a second browser. When I came back to my computer this evening to try again it was sold out. Such a shame. Not the first time I've had issues with the site

Got them on CD-R about 15 years ago.
3rd and 4th are listed as lineage: Mcass/DAT/CD-R.
5th doesn’t have a lineage and is missing 2 songs, and has splices in 2 other songs. Dave said that he could see the 5th being released in the future. That would be grate if they have the complete show.

Spinning 12/3 set 2 now and it sounds pretty good for a cassette. Hope the mastering kicks it up a notch.

I would love a massive Box, with delivery at the end of September and all fall/winter to soak it up.

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You guys are really going the wrong way! I attended 238 shows and have bought multiple copies of almost everything The Grateful Dead have ever released and yet I am beginning to feel that loyalty is becoming more and more a one-way street.

Who the hell is running this train? What business strategy dictates that you alienate your customers? Did you guys hire that genius who came up with the idea of "New Coke" or something? If I were one of your stockholders, I would be furious that you were urinating away unsatisfied demand AND infuriating your customer base.

Hopefully, it is just incompetence. If you are selling out a product with immense economies of scale AND significant sunk costs in 4 hours, you need to hire someone with a much greater grasp on demand forecasting! You can do better. You are the Grateful Dead for Pete's sake.

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If you need an ala cart you need to be there waiting for the screen to flip, then you might have a chance.Otherwise like icecream says sub. Sub. Sub. So you don't cry,cry,cry.

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....it's been the business model for six plus years. Just subscribe. November.
btw. Casey Jones is running the train.
Beating a Dead horse.

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SOLD OUT!!!!

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How to wave goodbye without using your hands.- George carlin.

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Longer than any in recent memory. That said, agree with vguy, this is a subscription series, no real room for complaints.

A big thank you to "the-powers-that-be" for releasing this show.

Please, folks lets not have complaints about this Dave's Picks sounding murky or lower fidelity. "Consumer quality."
The analog cassettes were good music carriers, but they weren't top-notch high fidelity in comparison to the compact disc. That less-than-perfect dynamic range, headroom, tape speed hiss, and tape generations were all downsides. I have this show on cassette and if I pull it out to compare it to the DaP31, it couldn't compare, it probably is an 8th generation copy.

So with that aside, this DaP31 will sound like I'm listening to the original master cassette recording, not even a 2nd generation copy. Quite a long time ago, I read what brand of tape and formulation of tape was used and the brand and model of recording deck was used.

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Well, there is every right to complain. I was on the subscription before and I was disappointed with some of the selections in the series! Soooo, I don't particularly care to spend the money for the series and pay money for discs I don't want. All I am saying, some would say I am complaining [whatever], is that there are so many heads out there who just want to get a chance to buy a f**k*n show without paying into a subscription! If you do a pre-order then you know how many discs to rip and there are no worries about being stuck with any unsold discs. I'm just saying...

I believe they gave all the Multi-Tracks they had to give in the Spring.

The longshot is 12/31/72 which was broadcasted on KSAN, San Francisco. I don't think it's unheard for them to bring in a multi-track recorder for radio broadcasts.. but I just don't think they did for this one. I reserve the right to be wrong, however.. If anyone has better info please do tell.

I am sorry some got shut out on this today. Honestly I thought there would have still been copies through tonight.

Initially these have not been selling too high above the ala carte pricing on the secondary market.. so if you got shut out look on eBay sometime in August. Consider the $10 or so extra you paid to be the hedge against the $95 it costs to subscribe.

The Road Trips Series was non-numbered and they had a hard time with it. It's been like this for almost eight years, and I don't see things changing because this works better for them.. Predictable revenue and costs and it does get people off their butts to purchase by the release date (if not before).

I wouldn't expect #'s 32 and beyond to be any different. Again, truly sorry for those that got shut out.

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Ala Carte = 4X - Bonus - Discount + Possibility of getting shut out + Stress
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Good post by Born Cross Eyed on the cassette master issue. I used to be pretty psyched with any cassettes of live dead that I could get in the '80s, and what I could get was few and far between. I would never have believed the sonic riches that dead.net would release.

I know that you can't judge a show by its set list, but this set list looks hot. I am particularly looking forward to checking out the Scarlet-Fire as I am partial to some of those '80s FOTMs. If past predicts future, then I can safely say that my brain will quickly adjust to the sound quality without being distracted and I will dig the release for what it is rather than pine away for what it is not. This also gives me hope that we might see some summer '85 releases down the road even if they are also cassette masters. (SPAC '85 SPAC '85 SPAC '85).

The cover art on this one also looks wicked cool, as I think someone else noted, it would make a good shirt. Love the fiery dragon motif to go along with that extended FOTM.

I'm trying to raise some scratch for the box set that's coming our way soon. Seeing that I've got these on cd's I guess I really don't need these on vinyl as well. Anyone interested feel free to drop me a PM and then post a message for me to check my PM.
11-10-1967 Shrine Exposition Hall~Los Angeles,Ca. 3LP set. 180gram
Dicks Picks Vol. 34 11-5-1977 6LP set. 180gram
...both are new and still in their shrink-wrap. Never been opened.
Drop me a line...

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All this excitement has me heading down the the music room for a little 11/30/79 sound board action...whoa, got this one on tape "hot off the presses" right after it came out. My bet on Dave's 32 is a post-Brent, because Dave wants to have one of each with the different keyboard players...yer thoughts. Bring on the Megabox!!!

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