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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    Man, I sure hope that I haven't inadvertently vined anything that was once MP3. Most of the lossless I have vined I received from another source, and I don't think it was ever MP3, and I KNOW I didn't convert it to MP3. That would really suck. I wish someone else would post on the WAV v lossless topic, especially regarding my statement that a WAV copy of a copy of a copy of a copy etc of a WAV copy converted from lossless has more loss than the original WAV copy. I might be wrong there. But, I will admit, I was a little irritated by the WAY I was told I was wrong. That may be oversensitivity on my part, or even the fact that posts, like emails, can be easily misinterpreted. I have been busy with other stuff and haven't posted some things I wanted to post. The 68 vine will be posted soon. All I have to do is copy and burn CB's disc. Oh Yeah has not gotten back to me about the burning speed or whatever the problem he and other MAC users are having with how my PC/Vista burns DVDs, so this will go out as my past vines have gone out. I will finish up the 77 after that and then take a little break from posting vines. So, although I said I would reseed the Nov 72 vine, I am going to bow out on that and hope someone else fills that hole. I have some other stuff to vine (I just got ALL of 1979), but am going to hold off for a while, though I will eventually vine it.
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    ya da ya da ya da...'74 JG Project Vine
    let's get back to the nuts and bolts of why we're here...the music...if you want to confirm that a vine has been converted from MP3 to lossless there are several ways to do that. I am guessing 95% of us take on faith that the vines circulated as lossless are lossless - and the rest have the means to check that they are the real deal. On that note...how about a vine a la the '77 lossless project? I propose the Garcia '74 shows all lossless and on DVD only. This would be in 5 installments. Many of them will be audience shows recorded by one of our great preservationist brothers (along with others), the recently deceased Jerry Moore, along with a large number of SBD recordings. Much of this material are the shows recorded with the late Merl Saunders. In my humble opinion, '74 was one of Jerry's best years, if not his best year for solo non-GD work. Below I list the 5 installments of this collection, if any one has any improved/additional shows to add let my know via PM and I will add them. As far as I know, these represent the best of what is out there, but again, what the hell do I know? Installment One (of Five) '74 Garcia Project: jg74-01-17.jgms.aud.tobin.76471.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-17.jgms.dts-corrected.tobin.90398.flac jg74-01-17.jgms.mtx.tobin.90365.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-17.jgms.sbd.kaplan.20678.sbeok.shnf jg74-01-17.jgms.sbd.tobin.76474.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-18.jgms.aud-falanga.jupille.8873.sbeok.shnf jg74-01-19.jgms.sbd.jjoops.8064.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-05.jgms.sbd.jjoops.11254.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-05.jgms.sbd.ladner.32088.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-09.jgms.partial.sbd.seff.6381.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-09.jgms.sbd.jjoops.17787.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-09.jgms.sbd.kung.30597.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-16.jgms.aud.falanga.jupille.8063.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-16.jgms.sbd.gems.91471.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-xx.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.8654.sbeok.shnf jg74-03-08.partial.kpfa-gans.32377.sbeok.flac16 jg74-03-09.jgms.sbd.unknown.33750.sbeok.flac16 Installment Two: jg74-04-20.gamb.sbd.smith.93823.sbeok.flac16 jg74-04-20.gasb.sbd.tamarkin.20699.sbeok.shnf jg74-04-27.oaitw.aud.unknown.21525.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-04.jgms.sbd.gmb.90003.sbeok.flac16 jg74-06-04.jgms.sbd.unknown.6379.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-05.jgms.s2.sbd.jjoops.8062.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-06.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.6375.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-12.gasb.aud.falanga.moore.berger.83232.sbeok.flac16 jg74-06-12.gasb.sbd.jupille.83290.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-12.gasb.sbd.shriver-jjoops.7331.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-13.gasb.sbd.jjoops.13768.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-02.jgms.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.14984.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-03.jgms.aud.jazzy.6611.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-03.jgms.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.14985.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-12.jgms.aud.falanga.jupille.8072.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-13.jgms.sbd.misshn.25623.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.gmb.86198.sbeok.flac16 jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.sacks.10127.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.unknown.4488.sbeok.shnf Installment Three: jg74-08-09.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.8073.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-11.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.jjoops.6382.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-15.jgms.aud.falanga.8650.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-23.jgms.aud.unknown.9416.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-24.jgms.sbd.jjoops.10612.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-30.jgms.sbd.sacks.6380.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-31.jgms.aud.falanga.8078.sbeok.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.gkelley.8652.sbefail.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.sterchele.76174.sbeok.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.unknown.31903.sbeok.flac16 jg74-10-04.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.8649.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-05.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.8665.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-06.jgms.partial.sbd.unknown.9026.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-27.jgms.late.aud.powell.ladner.23676.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-31.jgms.sbd.cousinit.19436.sbeok.shnf Installment Four: jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-07.jgms.early.aud.moore.weiner.jjoops.14306.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.aud.moore.9711.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.aud.moore.jjoops.16839.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.sonyecm.moskal.94547.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-09.jgms.late.slabicky.jjoops.8661.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-10.jgms.sbd.lemarre.18202.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-10.jgms.sbd.unknown.95767.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-13.jgms.early.aud.uher.siniawski.merin.10128.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-14.jgms.early.aud.warburton.weiner.jjoops.16461.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-14.jgms.late.aud.uher.siniawski.merin.6383.sbeok.shnf Installment Five: jg74-11-15.jgms.late.sbd.lai.4487.sbefail.shnf jg74-11-15.jgms.sbd.late.misshn.8071.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-16.jgms.aud.early.moore.minches.jjoops.16808.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-16.jgms.aud.late.moore.minches.jjoops.16809.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-27.jgms.sbd.gems.91343.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-27.jgms.sbd.partial.gems.89216.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-28.jgms.sbd.gmb.85987.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-28.jgms.sbd.lai.4486.sbefail.shnf jg74-12-15.jgms.sbd.jjoops.8177.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-28.jgms.aud.misshn.24317.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-29.jgms.early.aud.disalvo.taperpat.93978.sbeok.flac16 jg74-12-29.jgms.late.shure.disalvo.jjoops.8643.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-29.jgms.shure.cbass.17019.sbeok.shnf May the music live on...Peace UJ. 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    Are there really vines that have been downloaded as mp3 and encoded it flac? I use Cool Edit Pro to find this out when I download. If a file has already been changed to mp3 it doesn't improve when its coverted back. If people do not check for this, music can really get polluted! If its in mp3 format so be it, everyone will know what they are getting. Please do not them back to flac.
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    and bloom brightly...
    sorry for the negativity...I've said my peace and will now get out. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    absolutely....
    and that's great of him, Brother...I'm not at all saying his contributions aren't appreciated...quite to the contrary....it's his critical actions are what I take issue with....perhaps I'm just interpreting his post(s) wrong....his posts, in conjunction with his past comments towards me, have certainly shaped my opinion of him....perhaps I'm being too harsh but even after re-reading his post I still get the same vibes...I do *hope* I'm wrong. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    um, hello...
    enough with the posturing and name-calling. Let a thousand flowers bloom. Thank you.
  • johnman
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    i musta missed sumpin....dont remember anybody insulting any body...i do know erickat has sent me copies of shows as i am too dense to figure out how to copy this stuff. thanx man!
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    Raise your hand if you truly *missed* Erickat while he was "gone"? Perhaps he rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning with his unjust and prejudice actions towards me (with no apology).... but I just get blow-hard vibes from virtually *all* of his comments... (i.e. "I've been here, and have been listening, and responding and will continue, dispite the lack of "superstar" status that has been conferred upon some who have arrived after me & sought the limelight to their own supplication - e.g. putting their name into each vine they seed, even if it's a group effort.") Nobody's trying to steal your "limelight" Bro...and you are/were hardly a "superstar"....Dstache takes that cake...he has streamlined the vining process and at the same time he's caught it up with the times (someone had to do it)...you're vining, and probably living, in the past, Man. Times have changed since that picture was taken... ;) Don't be mistaken though my fellow music lover...your logic is valid....but only in the days of Great Wizards and Masters, neither of which apply to this century or to reality in general. Sorry if you do not feel as important or relevent as you have in the past but that is something only you have control of...it's *your* legacy, and yours alone...live and let live...If you don't want to sign up for specific vines, don't. But insulting and demeaning comments towards individuals who have done absolutely nothing to you to warrant such actions is immature and honestly makes me wanna vomit. I have contributed my 2 cents and hope they are well spent. ...I would like to give a special thank you to Dstache for all he has done for my, and many's, collection of Good Ol' Grateful Dead!!!! I (we) now have a collection that will last the test of time without having to spend hours of our time trying to obtain it....now we can use that time to ENJOY it!!!! And for that, "Great Wizard"...your "apprentices" are....eternally grateful. anywho...back to LIFE. :) and try to smile a lil bit...it feels MUCH better :)
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    there are lot`s of lossless downloads
    On shn/flac.net that have been downloaded from archives.org as mp3 , then converted to lossless re-uploaded to shn/flac as lossless .. That one kinda gets me wondering uumm whats the point in downloading mp3 converting to LL then spend twice the time or more to download it from shn/flac as shn/flac. I can just download the mp3 then convert it to shn/flac myself ,.? thats a whole lot of time converting downloading/uploading , so how much if any data is lost doing things this way ?
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    So how many vines have existed in an mp3 sequence?
    Raise your hand if you've circulated a Vine with an mp3 suffix converted to a wav, shn or flac?
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Hey t140v77, Man if you want to make an additional copy that would go over seas that would be the best option in my opinion. I think we have done it both ways but a separate copy would cut the chances of it getting lost coming back over the pond greatly! Just my opinion. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Have fun man!! I get my Furthur fun 3 days this weekend!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I did alot of burning and labeling envelopesand stuff in the last couple of days. Every vine I have except for FWGV#4 (which isn't taken) will be at the post office in a few minutes. I hope I didn't fuck up anything. Peace
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I will post it this weekend. It will include 6 shows from 1990 (10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 12/3, 12/4 and 1 other) plus 2 from '95 (that were on my list of Compendium picks posted here a while back) to fill up the second disc. I'm listening to a hot Help > Slip > Franklin's to open 10/31 as I type this. I'll start working on reseeding the 77 Part 4 vine once I am done with this. On an unrelated note, if anyone here subscribes to Hotfile and has some time to download a couple of shows (Rush and Rolling stones '81) let me know. I've gotten monthly passes in the past for both Hotfile and Rapidshare but lately I've both been too busy and haven't found much on the blogs I go to to find shows from other artists. Thanks!
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Have a great time this weekend and give us a report. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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that I'm holding up a few vines, but I'm experiencing some technical difficulties, both personally and with equipment. I will get them moving as soon as I resolve the issues at hand. Please don't worry, I will have them moving again soon.
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just pm me to see if I can accomodate the vines, or if I should be moved down a space or two, just so there isn't so I'm not so back-logged.
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Take your time man ... hope all is well "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Hey, take your time sorting everything out. There are good souls in here and don't feel any pressure from the vineyard. Good luck with your issues. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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maustin the music will always be here so be there to take care of what u need to. hope all goes well
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All, Just in case you are interested, the GD is e-mailing people that have a reservation for the "music only" Euro 72 package. The e-mail has a code to be used to upgrade to a "Big Box". Apparently some orders are being cancelled. It looks like alot of people (including myself) booked multiple orders because of the problems early in the ordering process. Best Wishes-Jimmy
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That is all I have to say to Rhino and the Dead store. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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in my part of the universe. Technical difficulties overcome and just a scare on the personal side. Turnin and burnin, got a stack ready to go. Now it's off to the ice for some sturgeon spearing come Saturday.
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Glad to hear it! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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I had an issue that took me out last fall and I am now back. I have VINES! ARRAHHH I am so sorry.......I have not been around. I have: Re-seed April 71 77 lossless part 1 (sorry Derek you worked so hard) TNHG Vine Lampinsky's Aud's I will do the work and get these out this week. Please forgive. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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JGB 3-6-76 "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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Nice to have you back and hope you are healthy again!
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birdsong. Glad to hear ur doing better.
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so good to have you back!
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From one Vineyard old-timer to another: WELCOME BACK!! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Wow, thanks for the kind vibes what a rough two months. Now if there is any vines, I've missed, been involved in or can reseed that people are looking for can you please tell me and I can finally get it all done? Thanks, Love you family ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Vine loving freaks (and I mean that in a good way), Following dstache's 'Compendium Picks' for the 1990's, I will be starting what looks to be 2 vines for 1992, about 5 DVD's total. Some notes: 1)From the Compendium 1992 list, regretfully, I only have a couple of the March shows and I don't have 12/5 which really bums me out because those Tempe shows were always quite good, and that show in particular brings back a lot of crazy memories for me =) 2)The 5/21 show is included in Cal Expo '92 Vine which is still alive so I won't include it here 3)The 6/25 show is included on New 1990's Part 6 Vine but that one may be in trouble so we'll wait and see on that one 4)Other than that, I have everything else from the list including the amazing Las Vegas May run. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Hey there,I have a few (4?) vines that I may have been holding on longer than I should.... I don't like to keep them more than a few days. I filled up my little hard drive with the few vines that I had already copied. I tried to delete out the junk I don't need but it didn't really help much. I just got back from my local Fry's and shoved a 1TB drive in the desktop....that should let me copy a couple more vines. I will be stopping by the post office tomorrow and will be updating the appropriate vines. I really don't know how you serious and long time viners store all the great music out there...thank goodness that storage is getting cheaper. Mike
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Will hold a lot of vines my friend. Yeah I use ext HDs. I can get a 500GB Toshiba for about $50 at the local Sam's Club. I think that is a very reasonable price to pay to store 500-some shows, assuming 1 show is about 1GB in flac/shn format. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Just an FYI, I saw that Target was running 1-TB and 2-TB external HD's for $85 each. Probably USB 2. Not bad for a 2-TB. This week only (February 20 thru 26) While supplies last! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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B-> KB->MB->GB->TB->? My first computer was a commondore Vic 20 with 3K of ram--a step down from the 64. Got it in 1983.
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i remember buying my first PC and the big decision was whether to buy a 386 or a 486 and whether to get 2 MB or really splurge and go with 4mb of RAM! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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I am back with it and want to send out the vines I have held up. pmail me please, I want to get things moving that were stuck with me. Thanks for your patience. I lost everyone's address in a computer crash so send them on to me. I am gone till Sunday but at that time will be putting a massive effort into mailing out vines. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Nice to see you, hope all is well with you and your family. Many of the vines vines may have been re-seeded, there has been a pretty large effort for that over the last few months. So we'll probably just play it by ear. Take care man! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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This show (Fort Worth, TX) was vined with the Mixed Bag I think. Now I think I have listened to as many shows as the average viner here. Now let me tell you something. I have heard quite a few "other ones," but this "one" is totally and completely addictive. The mix is great. But there is something about the heavy sounding drums & bass and guitar. I have been listening to this (Set 2) non-stop for several weeks since I got it. I just can't put it down. The 'Me and My Uncle" fits perfectly in between. On a scale, this is the #1 "truckin'/other one" combo so far that I have heard. It's rare for me to react to a show like this. Crazy man! Set 2 truckin->drums->other one->me and my uncle->other one->wharf rat
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that I am really excited how well the vineyard is doing. I haven't seen it like this in some time. So I just wanna say thanks to all the old timers for reseeding a lot of this music and all the new guys for keeping it moving. There is quite a lot of vines here so I wanna say thanks to cosmicbadger for the vindex to keep track of all of this. It definitely makes it easier.
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Thanks Jake. ....listening to 11/14/71 Set 2 again today. I think I have it figured out. The Other One here conveys a "sense of urgency" not found in other versions I have heard. I find myself batting my head with Phil's bass line as if I am on some one-way mission to save the world. The sense of urgency here is overwhelming and a hair stand up on your back kinda thing....
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I'm gonna have to check it out! =) =) Jake - I'm with you, it's very awesome to have the vineyard in full throttle once again. I feel like we have a very strong tight-knit group here these days. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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earlier todayhe seems to be doing pretty good staying away from the computer for the most part, at least limiting how long he is in front of it... I assured him we're more concern about him than any vines but none the less will do his best to move them along real soon. so, hang in there Dave!
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to hear about dave zep. thanks for the update. perhaps we should send him his own copy for some of the vines he is one
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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I have received 4 DVD's of '91 shows from RMB and will post a Part 1 vine within the next week or so. Thanks RMB!!!
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I better get 92 part 2 up! Been slacking.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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derek and mark for keeping this vineyard going and brining in the new shows. This place wouldn't be the same wirthout ur effort.
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I have stalled out a few vines here..i was busy moving then the whole family was sick my wife and i had sinus infections my daughter and son had ear infections....feeling better now back to work i will have all vines out by thursday. sorry
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just a hiccupdamn flu bugs... Hope you like the new place and hope everyone feels better real quick!!! I'm headed out of town later this week (Thursday) - I'll have access for the most part may knock myself down the list on a couple vines... or have them sent to my daughter's where I'll be staying for most of the rest of the month (I've tried to not sign up for too many more the last couple weeks) :D
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noonie. thanks for the update. best wishes to everyones recovery and the new place
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Our house has been down with head and chest colds the last couple of weeks. Missing work, missing school ... Hang in there brother! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"