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    Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

    Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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  • #951
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    a completely different subject

    movies

    saw Rocketman in theater
    loved it

    we happened to start up the recent "A Star is Born" with Lady Gaga on cable last night

    we stuck it out, but what a bland, slow, overly-long cliched flick. You couldn't understand a word the lead guy and Sam Shepard were saying. Low Talkers (Seinfeld reference) and gravelly. "uuhhhh muhh muhhhhhh..." "I want to sing my songs!" says Lady Gaga. "huhhhhyhuhhh...duuuhhhhhhuhhhuhhhh..."

    SPEAK UP, MOFO.

    On the bright side, you do get a few fleeting glimpses of LG in the altogether...no complaints on THAT.

  • #952
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    tobacco

    thought i was cool
    tried chewing tobacco in 9th grade
    vomitorium

    tried smoking it
    ew
    coughitorium

    tried clove cigarettes
    blechitorium

    tried pot
    :)))

    I can assure you
    having smoked cannabis pretty regularly since I was 18
    it is not addictive (lol)

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  • #953
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    when I was in the military, cigarettes cost .25 cents a pack, 2.50 a carton with no tax. When I first started smoking they were 35 cents a pack in the machines, that anyone could access, including 12 year old kids like me. The term smoke 'em if you got em' I think originated in the military, at least that's where I first heard it. In basic training "boot camp" you were not allowed to smoke, at all, so you went cold turkey. Then, after about 6 weeks, they would light the smoking lamp, and we would get to smoke. The first time I heard that term was then, Drill sergeant says, "smoke em if you got em, the smoking lamp is lit". I had no idea what a "smoking lamp" was but I soon found out it meant time to light up and it was a mad dash for the door to find one and get one lit. They were nasty and mean about it, gave you about 3 minutes to get a cig, run outside, light it and try and get a hit before they ran you back inside again. That was the first time I ever got a "buzz" from cigarettes. We hot boxed those things, due to withdrawal and desire and actually got off, dizzy more than anything, so running back into the barracks was not as easy as it sounds, a lot of staggering and falling down for some, or hands on knees with head down until the dizzies went away. If you were late, you got to run off that cigarette on the drill field for about an hour or so. I should have quit then, but I didn't want to, if you don't want to quit them, you never will, you must have the will to say no more, and mean it. Or you can wait till you can't breath anymore, that is also a good deterrent to smoking. Yes, disgusting, filthy, stinking unacceptable now days habit, and yet, they are legal to purchase at any convenience store. Weed is much better for you but it isn't very good for your lungs either, but who smokes 2 or 3 packs of joints a day? not even Tommy Chong I bet. (I could be wrong about that :) )

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    Worse thing EVER!

    Like Led said, pretty much did everything but only regret the cancer sticks.....funny thing is, I didn’t really start until I was 28, Living with that 20 year old I told ya about....she did.....sure I used to have one out at a bar once in a great while but I was not a cough, cough, “tabacoo” user until then. Started part time, would buy the roll your own, you know occasionally rolling one up, then when I went back to college, since you had to now go outside, I didn’t have time to walk out there, spin one up, smoke, and then make to next class etc......so I start buying generic, like buck a pack thinking “yea, the way I occasionally smoke a pack will last me forever......cue the dark, evil, insidious music!
    So of course once you have em in your pocket and all ya have to do is spark one up.........add to that everyone around me then smoked so of course I became addicted. The thing is, I could quit pretty easy, luckily, I was fortunate to be able to do this with a lot of things.....once I made up my mind I’d just ween myself off and make sure I wouldn’t be around “whatever” and the people and most importantly the triggers etc....Tabacoo was always the hardest, but I was never a heavy smoker unless up parting all night, usually less than a pack a day. Loved the Camel wides, but got into all the boutique shit when I moved to CO where they have those smoke shops....
    Anyways would go back and forth quitting, and getting readdicted over and over thinking I could “part time” it.
    Then I started to smoke a pipe for a while because I thought that way I wouldn’t smoke as much, you know, part time.....then tried same with cigars etc, tried it all, but always would end up fully addicted. Finally after about 15 years while I was playing music for a living I got the notion that I’d just bye the Banjo player a pack now and then and just have him feed me a few during gigs, and not have any at home or around me etc. That’s the thing about playing; there’s often a lot of anxious waiting around to play etc, so smoking really helped that. Well of course that “part time” trick didn’t work either. So finally, about fifteen years ago I finally realized, just like twelve step “I’m an addict”, I’m addicted to nicotine and it’s either all or nothing, there is no part time! Once I fully realized that, it was the end of the season at work, so I knew I’d not be around anyone for a month or so, plus I was getting a respitory bug so I knew I wouldn’t want to for a few days anyway, so that cave me the perfect opportunity to quit yet again. This time though, armed with my new found realization there was no way I was going to tell myself I can part time it, you know “I can control this”........no, your an addict, so no you can’t etc.......that was how I finally gave the nasty shit up and have never ever wanted one again. Luckily, once enough time goes by your body starts to change and triggers like smelling it where you used to get enticed, eventually you realize just how nasty the shit smells, and it becomes a turn off etc and you feel so much better. Interesting, in 1984 when I gave up meat the same thing happened; instead of getting all salivating and hungry when someone was cooking meat, it started to smell like nasty searing flesh. This doesn’t bother me so much now, perhaps because I do eat the dirty bird now, but years ago I’d have to leave the room....
    Supposedly your lungs can heal a bit, but I’m worried that between the years I did smoke, and all the second hand exsposure, and all the shitty work environments I’ve been in, I’m going to be fucked....my old man smoked around us, not all over the house but down in his workshop, all the bars, and places I lived, hell people smoked on planes back in the day, everywhere! Ridiculous! The biggest tell is when you visit friends who still smoke in thier houses and as soon as you walk in it’s overwhelming. You feel so bad because it’s awful, but it’s your peeps so what do you do? I try to make it so we have to go out somewhere to meet up just so I don’t have to deal with that. Now I’m not some reformed nazi, I’m from the ilk that you do what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt others, like “jumping off that balcony” ,you want to drive with no seat belt, or not wear a helmet, or smoke, that’s your choice.
    It’s just personally I can’t take it anymore, it makes me ill......plus you have to go through theconstant waiting around factor like Led said and it’s just a drag.....listen to this for a humorous take on all that....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYLrVNKE68

    The worst is these kids that are getting addicted by all this vape shit. It’s such a shame after so many years of dramatic Tabacoo decline that the numbers are going back up among kids. Please, don’t mean to preach, but don’t do it chilrens!! Just ask my old man; started when basically a child, finally quit in his sixties, but ended up with Lung Cancer about four years ago. Luckily he has always gotten a yearly chest ex ray since he worked in a steel plant for forty years, so they caught it early. Thought they got it with radiation, but unfortunately a year later it had spread to hip and Adrenal gland......got the hip with radiation, but the adrenal tumor is never going away. The only reason he’s still alive is because of some new drug that works with his immune system to “maintain” the tumor. At his age they won’t remove the gland, and chemo, at the small doses he could take, wasn’t going to do it, so he was fortunate that he qualified for this drug which has worked miracles.
    Please, if your even thinking about smoking, or need some help quitting, just go sit in the lobby of the chemo ward at your local cancer center for just an hour or two, if that doesn’t do the trick......trust me, it’s eye opening!!
    Sorry to go on, but it’s something pretty heavy that we deal with everyday so if I can get even one person to quit, or more importantly, never start,.....well, sorry, thanks for letting me vent.......
    Now please back to our collective “waiting on a miracle”........dammit Dave, it’s a good thing I don’t smoke anymore or this anticipation stress would make me a human chimney!

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    As mentioned here before, it is now a Honda dealership; if you go in there and shop for a car(or pretend to), ask to be taken upstairs to where the ballroom was, you can check all the ghosts...

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    Thanks for the Moore/Perkins recommendation...listening to their 1954 recording, great stuff!
    Now we need a Cats & the Fiddle w/Tiny Grimes box...

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    Filthy fucking habit.

    My father smoked, he was a non filtered camel fan. He complained about cost and said when the got to .50 cent a pack he was done, just wasn't going to pay that for a pack of butts. They hit 50 and he quit, period!

    Fast forward and during a divorce I started smoking at 23. Smoked into my 50's. On and off at the end. Everytime I quit I used patches. I'd wear the big one for maybe 30 days and be smoking at first while wearing it. I started paring them down until I quit. Everytime I went back it was a stupid decision. Thought I'd have one,,,,wrong. Been off the nicotine about 7 years, maybe 8. Lungs may not get better, but at least I don't have the expense or cough up black shit while in the shower! Now I know I can NEVER have one,,, I won't even do wraps from tobacco products, too afraid I'll start again.

    Worst habit EVER!

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    Thanks for the heads up. I real big fan of Nat. Guess I'll get this in November. It was nice to see the page talk about his piano playing. I heard someone years ago on a Jazz station talking about King and he was saying about how everyone raves about the singer, but forget he was voted (downbeat?) piano player of the year 3 or 4 years in a row.

    To anyone interested, pick up his "after midnight sessions" album, very, very, very nice! (do 3 very's make it primo? :-) )

    Really great album, let me know and I'll get you a copy.

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    If the Meet Up Movie 6/17/91 is in the box they can't announce the box before movie night or a lot of people would skip the movies and wait to watch it at home.

    Traffic lights,Buses,Taxis,Crosswalks,Fire hydrants, Oh My!

  • #960
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    I smoked dope before I smoked cigarettes. During my teens I would eat it, or smoke it in a pipe, but the culture in England at that time-mid 1970s - was to smoke cannabis with tobacco in a joint. Inevitably, this was what I started doing, and after a year or so, by the age of about 23, I graduated to the hard stuff...pre rolled, non enhanced packets of 20 cigarettes. I didn't stop until I was 51-I am now 62.
    The daftest thing I ever did was pour water on the remaining few in a packet...and then wake up in the night and try to dry them out in the cooker so I could have one last smoke. Smoking with a nicotine patch on my arm wasn't too clever, either!

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Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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Submitted by parabolaus on Sun, 07/28/2019 - 22:59

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Still loving the DaP releases, just wish they would add high quality scans alongside of them... Maybe one day!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 00:05

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....I thought I saw you there!
They opened and closed 12.28 with a Saturday Night sandwich.
That was cool....

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Submitted by Dan R. on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 00:42

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Dave, you hit this one out of the park!!!

What we have here is a proof that Brent came to the band prodigiously, understanding this band and their music to the very core.

What we have here is the band playing in such a style as to sweep legions of fans up onto the bus.

I mean it. I've only listened to the first set, and this is as good as it gets. Mickey's weed, Mind Your Head, and a comfortable chair. They are as tight as the best of jazz ensembles, hitting every nuance and detail with absolute precision and playfulness on a groove that is irresistable from the very first. The number of ingenius moments throughout the first set is really countless. A few times, they even take the music out of the auditorium and flirt with the cosmos. This is first rate Grateful Dead. Vol. 31, 12/3/79, is a true deadhead's dream. As my dear friend shared: "we are blessed!"

Thank you so much for choosing this most awesome of shows. Even cooler is that it's an event I never heard mention of before. 12/3/79, Uptown Theater, Grateful Dead playing music's true purpose. Very cool!

I have just received my copy of the latest Garcialive, and noticed that there is not any booklet inside, has anyone else ordered this and should there have been a booklet?
Still waiting for delivery of my DAP 31 in the UK, no mention of extra costs so far...............

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Submitted by Robert on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 02:34

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Today UPS stand at my door to bring me the new DP. What a surprise as the guy told me that he gets $ 80,00 for transportation. Are you kidding?
Any other German or European Deadhead, who has the same problem?

UPS came to my door looking for £73.92 for DP 31. I've never paid that much for custom charges on a DP before. Can someone explain to me why I am paying so much?

Like ROBERT I have had UPS at the door showing me DaP31 but I can’t have it unless I hand over £73.92. I have every Dave and Dicks Picks and many GD boxsets so I would like this one but the freight charge is ridiculous. GD/Rhino get it sorted.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 03:28

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Hi, you are being charged so much because GD/Rhino have screwed up the delivery method meaning many, if not all, European customers are being hit individually for an enormously expensive method of sending the CD out of the US.

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Submitted by Steve Jones on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 03:48

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Like several other people (so far) I have had UPS dropping a demand through my letter box demanding £73.92 in COD charges for shipping. The note has a InfoNotice number on the front (under the barcode) which you can use to give new instructions re delivery. UPS are not yet recognising this number - I will give it to this afternoon and then ring them - but it looks like the package will be heading back to the Rhino warehouse as I do not intend paying this as I have already paid for UK shipping. I have also emailed Dead.Net about this but suspect there will not be much progress here. Advice on other options might be useful if they have proved more sucessful in getting this sorted.

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Submitted by Steve Jones on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 04:37

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One guy on the Eurotraders email group has been on to UPS about the fees they are attempting to collect. He has been told that his order has been sent by a Free on Board service which means the consignee pays for the transport (along with any customs duties as normal) and that as the client (I.e. Rhino) chose that option then there is nothing UPS can do about and suggest that we contact them to sort it. I’ve not yet heard of anybody actually paying the £73 or euro equivalent elsewhere in Europe so as things stand all the orders will be sitting in UPS warehouses before heading back to the US.

Is that going to be a Rhino release? The Help> Slipknot! on a single track instead of separate tracks indicates a less than official release. But could that be part of the upcoming box?

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Submitted by simonrob on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 05:11

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Regarding my order that has to come to the Netherlands, according to the UPS website just now, my copy is still in Louisville, KY and has been there since 12:14 am on the 27th July. On their site I can also avail myself of the possibility to pay the required 81.88 Euros online to them if I so choose. I have passed on that option. I am quite happy that it is still in the US of A - there is the chance that this will be sorted before a UPS jobsworth comes knocking on my door, tantalizingly waving MY copy of DaP 31 in my face, whilst demanding cash (the exact amount, not a cent more or less) up front. This happened once before with a GD box set and it was painful to watch the guy take it away with him. I subsequently had to pick it up from their depot (fortunately less than 2 miles from my home-work route) where I could pay with my bank card.
I have mailed Dr. Rhino and received the standard automated reply that the poor guy is very busy and could take 5 days to get back to me. I am still waiting, but the 5 days have not yet expired.
I have not received any notification, information or anything else from UPS. On my own initiative I entered my tracking number into their website and it worked. I only discovered that it was sent by UPS from posts on here. In the shipping mail from here it merely said "Shipped by: missing_carr_no:556" which is the same as Daverock mentioned on here earlier and is less than informative.
Is it purely coincidence that UPS trucks are painted shit brown?
The question remains: "How hard is it to post a package?"

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Submitted by dtuck90 on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 05:52

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So it looks like there are 2 different issues.

The first is that dead.net have messed up and UPS are expecting everyone to pay £74 to receive the package and their package has already made it to the U.K.

The second issue is this PLUS “commercial invoices” are missing so the package can’t even leave the USA at the moment. This is the situation I’m in. Had a reply from Dr Rhino on Friday that they will sort it but I don’t have a clue how long that will take

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Submitted by Infinitejest3 on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 06:00

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I’m really digging on this new Dave’s pick(31), I feel like with more and more listens it’s only going to get better and better! I love the part in scarlet >fire where it sounds like your actually at the show and went to the bathroom or something, I literally felt like I was stumbling around, lol! I’m only 33 so I never got to see the dead but goddamn I can still feel it and appreciate it like I was! I’m going to see Herbie Hancock and kamasi Washington next month so I’m still privileged but it would have been nice to see the dead in the 70s, King crimson in the fall & they are on fucking fire!mucho musico! Im also on a June 76 kick 🔥 🔥 🔥 💀!
So I think 🤔 maybe David glasser made a heady donation to a record store... i walk into a little record shop, small place and have my face unexpectedly ripped off; road picks, Dave’s picks, dicks picks & most of the box sets in mint condition and a sign saying they have Dave’s, dicks & road trips complete for 2 grand each except rt 1200, holy shit! And I ask what the fuck! During dead and co some guy comes in and donates all of it ! Free of charge, just to show support for local independent record stores! Only a Grateful Dead fan would be that awesome, nice , generous and all around heady like that, I fucking love it!but yeah it might have been David glasser ,who knows, reason I say that is because the store is in boulder, idk just a hunch. I walked away with road trips v4#5 boston 6/9/76. Love it!( I’m listening to daP31 scarlet fire before work this morning and I just hit the part I was speaking of earlier. yeah man!

Hey CaseyJane I’ll muster up the energy to possibly give my thoughts on dead and co. I went to the first two years of Folsom field and loved it:) but on Jerry’s 75th at red rocks with bob weir and John Mayer surprised guest joined them it was bad in a not good way, like really bad and ever since I can’t stand Mayer’s voice, amazing guitar player but his voice is that much of a turn off for me, I mean thats pretty much it in a nutshell but I could write a couple paragraphs on my thoughts about dead and co and particularly the Folsom $how$!but I won’t!

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Submitted by moonrabbit on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 06:20

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I paid the UPS ransom (£73.92), but it would be nice to get a refund or discount off future purchases!

[According to the UPS invoice, £73.92 breaks down as £67.66 Freight and £6.26 Freight Charges.]

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Submitted by IanM on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 06:21

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Following on from the experience of others, according to the UPS tracking information, my copy has made it to the UK but is now on hold with the following message: "Your package has been delayed due to a Government regulatory agency hold". No contact from UPS demanding any shipping fees yet, but I guess it is only a matter of time.
Ian

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Submitted by taylorvz on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 07:43

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Can't believe I slept on this! One of my favorite eras. If anyone managed to snag an extra, please let me know. Glad to know it sounds as good as it looks!

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 07:49

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Thanks for the info Colin,
seems like Rhino can't get anything right, came home just now and found a UPS missed delivery card with a demand for £73.91p, they can but dream on...........

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Submitted by ShaggyFraggle on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 08:27

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Have any Canadian heads had similar (or dissimilar) issues regarding UPS and shipping charges? I received a shipping notice Friday night, which includes tracking info for UPS. So far, all it says is "Label Created" and that the package is ready for UPS. I presume that's good, since UPS don't have it in their greedy little hands yet. This extortionate scheme that's being pulled with European heads is infuriating!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 08:53

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can cause a lot of issues

Sydney, you are being expected to pay UPS just over $90 for that ish.

What duphuq.

It's 2019, not 1819, UPS. automated everything now, wind-driven ships then.

my sympathies, SP.

UPS: U Peessa $#!+. "What can Brown do for you?" lmfao

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 09:08

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Phil - on the road right now and don’t have time to comment in full but I’m wondering if you could clarify your stance which I fully respect. Did you like D&C, which included Mayer, up until Jerry’s 75th birthday show and then got turned off? Bad show or performance that night maybe? Just curious b/c your comments seemed like you may have enjoyed it before. Again, I know some folks don’t care for him and to each their own. I will comment more on John later, but I will say that he has earned my respect and appreciation and I think the rest of the band likes playing with him.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 09:54

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...I’ve been listen’n To this latest pick for about a week now and I can’t get enough of it yet!
I love everything about this Pick from the art production to the Mix, PRIMO! Love my 1979 Grateful Dead. I’ve been a fan of 1979 since the first Dicks Picks 79’ Release was offered to the masses/fans! I’m just guessing here but I think Dick L. was a fan of 79’ as well! It’s such a great year for/from the band, musicianship is A+++, Brent is the Man and the cause, I believe, why the band was on Fire during this time period in history and this performance is all the proof I need, well, maybe not all the proof; all the other Grateful Dead 79’ releases are top shelf for me. I’m gonna take another full listen and I’m going to make some notes this time about all the songs performed... rock on my brothers & sisters! Peace be with you all... 🙏❤️😎 my Daves Picks 31 is #7374! LOL, Another of my two favorite eras/ years in the Dead’s History!!!!
Have a grateful day everyone...

PS: yes, I think John Mayer finally found his footing in the band this last TOUR. The Citi Field concert was a grateful time indeed plus John was given the privilege to play Jerry Garcias guitar, “The Wolf”, such a beautiful sounding guitar. John had her wailing for sure that evening!

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:04

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Yes, that's right Stoltzfus,
I have just spent 20 mins on the phone trying to get some answers from UPS inquires at Middlesex, England, apparently, this is import taxes, I challenged them on this, and demanded an explanation as to why an £89 outlay would result in a £74 tax bill and was put on hold and then told it wasn't and it is a one-off delivery charge for Volume 31, it does not include delivery for Volume 32, nice money if you can get it! Dick Turpin would be proud.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:25

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Don't see a response to your query regarding Disc 2. I don't notice any popping, etc. on playback during those time intervals so probably a disc issue. Have you checked to see if any dust/scratches on surface? Have you played it back on another disc player for comparison?

In the end, if its a disc, email Dr. Rhino for a replacement and I'm sure it'll get taken care of.

Good luck.

When I posted yesterday, I mentioned that I’d refused to pay the charges and from reading today’s posts it seems that several others have done the same. My reasoning is that undelivered packages, uncollected charges, unfulfilled orders and unhappy customers is a significantly bigger problem for Rhino/USPS than unhappy customers. Hopefully this might drive a solution.

Yes, as someone further down on this forum page noted, UPS has confirmed that the £73 charge is entirely for shipping and this seems to be the case for all European orders ( and beyond?) I’ve heard nothing back yet from dead.net but I don’t think they have a leg to stand on over this - if you charge for transit then you are responsible for those costs. The only charges we are liable for on top are customs duties and taxes incurred on import. I’ve emailed UPS about stopping them trying to deliver and get the money off me since the InfoNotice number is still not recognised by them but have heard nothing back - there seems to be a pattern developing here! We shall see what happens tomorrow. Those who have not yet been hit by the charge can use the tracking number listed on the despatch notice from dead.net (assuming you got one of course) to find out where your order is via the UPS website - do not rely on an email from UPS alerting you to charges, I never got one.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:41

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New releases come out on Tuesdays, so I'm hoping for the announcement tomorrow...
DaP 31: Good show...no, excellent show! Not impressed with the mastering though, heard better soundboard sources. Just my opinion after a coupla' listens...

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:43

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Thanks, I was suspecting that was the case as after posting I examined the disc closer and discovered a long, thin scratch on the outer portion of the disc. Other than that, I am really liking this release.

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Submitted by deadegad on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:53

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I live in New York City and my mail box is still empty and my email box still has no shipping notice? Although, having said that, I have received the Dave's before without a shipping notice but only rarely. My postman arrives very late.

To European fans: My heart goes out to you with those Big Government Rip-Off service charges! Some days I think governments can become like organized crime rackets: Shakedown Street! Get the pitchforks ready. . .. TicketMaster is going to get it too! Ouch!

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Submitted by Serpent of Dreams on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 10:55

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Just back from a weekend in the lakes region of NH and happy to find DaP 31 in today's mail. Cracked it right open , queued it up and started reading DL's always enjoyable liner notes. All was just exactly perfect until I stumbled on another reference to Garcia's new Wolf guitar. I saw that in DL's 7/16 announcement and chalked it up to typo and excitement about sharing the news.

I'm sure others have commented about this in the thread, but if I'm not mistaken, Wolf was hardly new in '79 and had been supplanted for the most part by Tiger starting in late summer of '79. And the CD case and liner notes photos clearly show Garcia playing Tiger.

In the grand scheme of things, it's a minor detail...but it's kinda surprising a mistake like this escaped author and proofreaders alike...still gonna enjoy it because, well, it's the back end of my favorite period and of course, too much of everything is just enough.

Actually Deadegad, the state is not to blame over these huge COD charges, there seems to be no indication of any taxes or customs charges being levied. The blame lies with Rhino for choosing this international despatch option and UPS for having these mail rates. As mentioned below the £73 is entirely for transit costs incurred under the option chosen by someone in Rhino. BTW has anyone outside of the US and Europe been hit by similar charges?

I'd be interested to hear what he is like live. I have been enjoying Harmony of Difference and Heaven and Earth over the last year-and I'll bet this music really sparkles live. If you get another chance to see King Crimson-don't pass it by-as good now as they have ever been.

I haven't had any visits from UPS yet with my Dave's Picks, and I haven't spent much tine trying to track it-not really my style. Suffice to say, I ain't paying them a bean. Maybe when I hear the knock on the door I'll snatch it off him and slam the door shut.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 12:07

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This is a great show from this era of the GD and a super solid release in the Dave's series. I think the overall sound quality is excellent for Healy cassette masters from that time, with the instrument levels, balance, and sound stage generally about as good as it gets. Vocals perhaps a touch forward - so be it. Solid crunchy Phil dialed in within a few songs, which to me is critical. All the roar and subtly of Jerry's guitar is there - I was blown away by some exquisite Jerry guitar work, crazy fills, in the first set. There is an audience patch in Fire (right before and leading into 2nd verse I think), and while never ideal, it's sort of like time traveling to that beautiful old Uptown Theatre in full lift off mode. Yeah, I noticed a little hiss back deep in the left channel in quiet parts Disc 2 (e.g. parts of drums)- no big deal, fact of life. Given that these are cassette masters this is straight up gold. For the record, playback first time through was with an OWC Mercury Pro external optical drive > desk top > beloved Sennheiser HD 595 headphones. Full disclosure - this was my second show, but I'm not biased in any way : )

Some Uptown "history" - I seem to remember that the last concert (or very close to it) played in the Uptown before it shut down was the Jerry Garcia Band 11/17/81 - felt like the balcony might come down it was shaking so hard. Friend in CO (originally Chicago area) told me later that he heard the GD were looking into booking a final 3 night run Dec. 81, to close out the venue, and he would have traveled for it, but it never came off and instead they played 1 night in Chicago area, 12/6/81, their first concert in the Rosemont Horizon. End of an era for Chicago heads. Amazing that the Uptown was never torn down all these years. Hoping to see it in full restored glory.

Once again - love the cover art for this one!!

Hope that overseas shipping snafu gets solved quickly.

Best to everybody. Enjoy the show!!

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 12:34

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I've been listening to 31 this weekend. I agree the vocals are hotter than the instruments, and when you can just turn up the jams, it sounds pretty fine. One caveat: Where's Weir? His guitar is WAY low in the mix, I find myself really enjoying the jams, and thinking it sure would be nice to her Bobby in this fine sounding mix.

Sons of Champlin - a great band from the 60's and 70's. I grew up in the SF bay area, so I saw this band several times, and had a couple of their albums - 'Welcome to the Dance' comes to mind.

Almost time for the Meet-up...and announcement of the box. I'm excited!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 12:41

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I felt that I could hear Bob's guitar fine when focused on it: perhaps a touch low, but once again its all about the nature of the source tapes so maybe never exactly perfect. Headphones make a big difference for me on some releases, this one included.

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Submitted by smix on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 12:50

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So - along with everyone else (at least in the UK) it seems I have two choices - pay £73.92 extra or wave goodbye to DP31.... speaking as someone with an entire run of Daves/Dicks/Road Trips.... its sad but I really cannot afford that amount... and OK so it isnt your fault at GD Central but - I reckon its time for us to part company - which is a real sad state of affairs....

This show seems an odd one to release but does have the history of being the final NYE show. I went to the first two of the run and 12-27 was rather forgettable except for the rain outside. 12-28 was quite good and I think the best of the run. UJB > PITB > Same Thing was really good! A fun show indeed.

Well actually SMix it is the fault of dead Central or to be more precise the despatch section at Rhino. They decided to use a service that involved additional costs for transit being charged to us. By rights they should resend the items using a service that doesn’t involve this huge add-on. However yes I see your point that if they are going from now on to charge us in advance for international despatch and then charge again, thereby pocketing the original fee included in the order price, then yes I can see no way that I can order goods again from dead.net and will be pushing for the refund of the unused part of my subscription.

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Submitted by phantomengineer on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 14:21

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Can I just echo Steve Jones, who I'm sure is reflecting the feelings of the majority of, if not all UK subscribers, and say I also will not just be refusing receipt of DP31, but in addition requesting a refund of the balance of my subscriptions for both Dave's Picks and the 7" series.

£73.00 additional postage for one item, when I spent less than that - only £59.00 - on the new Dylan Rolling Thunder 14 CD box!!

We've had this type of 'cock up' previously, but this one has the potential to be a 'goodwill breaker'!!

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Submitted by smyler on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 14:27

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I’ve received this from Rhino, presumably others have received similar emails.

Thank you for your email.

I am very sorry to hear that you are being charged a delivery fee, for your copy of Dave's Picks Volume 31.

I have brought this issue to the attention of our warehouse and our operations team.

We are working with UPS to resolve this issue as soon as possible.

I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

I will update you on our progress as soon as possible.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Dr. Rhino

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 14:27

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For the first time, it works out cheaper to buy Dave's Picks release (VOL 31) on eBay than it will cost me here at deadnet, not that I intend to, but just an observation.
Please, can we get this mess sorted out, it has certainly cast a dark cloud over the excitement of the forthcoming boxset and indeed this '79 long-awaited release.

I might be being naïve, but I am expecting this issue to get resolved, and for normal service to be resumed. If nobody pays these absurd charges, and everyone contacts Dr Rhino for the discs to be sent out again using the same system that has been used over the last few years, then hopefully we will eventually receive what we have paid for without extra cost.
If this does not happen, then I too will be asking for a refund of the monies spent on this and the remaining discs and, as I have said before, will stop subscribing.

This means that it would be impractical to order the upcoming box set, too. Its lucky the Fillmore West vinyl box sets are available via Amazon UK.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 14:39

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..when I hear the cluster* unfold for our good friends in Europe. I hope this tale has a happy ending, I can't help but feel this is just a giant mistake or just a massive oversight of some sort.

uchk.. I hate train wrecks in slow motion.

Speaking of trains, anyone know any good train songs? Heard the Ballad of Casey Jones and Big RR Blues on the river today. Got to paddle with whitewater royalty including a 12 year old down the fabulous Upper Yough who is already better than I ever was or ever will be. The world has changed.. hey, weren't we talking about disrespectful youth earlier in the thread? :P

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Submitted by wacbzz on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 14:52

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I just received Vol 31...anyone else NOT have a limited edition number printed on the back of the packaging? Is this the new style now - “You got in the limited edition window, but we’re not going to let you know which ‘limited edition’ number you have.”

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Submitted by deadtony on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 15:04

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Its such a low number, its invisible!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 07/29/2019 - 15:15

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Hang in there brothers across the pond Dr. Rhino is a good guy he will help out.

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